The way I like to work is, like, I like to go, basically wake up obsess over something. Go to bed. Wake up obsessed. Go to bed. Like, every second of the day, until I just have a mental breakdown and burnout, and then I, like, take a day off, or maybe a day and a half off, and I like to go right back to it. So I don't, like, work certain days. I just go as hard as I can every ounce my entire body until I just crashed.

Alright. In this episode, we are gonna talk about Wait. One second. Look, we gotta let the guy, mister Beast, actually do the intro. Guys, in this gonna teach you how to make a fucking million dollars. If you don't have a million dollars, we're gonna show you in this policy. Alright. That was way better than us. Yeah. That's right. Mister Beast, the biggest youtuber in the world, joined us on my first million. And Hudson Minhush, one of the biggest comedians of the world. We have four person pod in person. This is kind of amazing. Yeah. So look, check us out. I think Shawn mentioned this on the podcast, but about three, four weeks ago, he said he's gonna create this thing called Camp MFM. So, basically, he rented a house, a big old mansion in North Carolina,

And he deemed, like, twenty different people, a bunch of different founders and a bunch of interesting people, but then he also deemed mister Beast and Hassan and he told him to come I didn't actually think they were gonna show up. And so we were just sitting here at night recording a podcast, and they walked in and joined us, and it was amazing. Yeah. It was crazy seeing one of the biggest YouTubers in the world, one of the biggest comedians of the world. They kinda interviewed each other. And they talked about their creative process,

what they're self conscious of, what it's like to work for them, how much they put into each thing that they do. It was pretty nuts. Yeah. It was I mean, it was amazing. They they made fun of me at first because I was nervous, and I was. It was awesome. Yeah. It was a big deal. It was awesome. So check it out. I think you're gonna dig it. Wait. Hold on. We're rolling. We're rolling. Alright. We're live. We're doing if it's not recording, you're just not getting it. Yeah. You're not getting it, dude. You're not getting Jimmy. Alright. We're live. Wait. What were you saying? This is the most interesting crossover ever. Yes. Yeah. Why are the are the four of us sitting here? I have no Let's put him on the spot. Seems the most nervous. Yeah. Me?

No. He's like the body language dot com. Yeah. And he raised body language. We're good. Right? Why I'm nervous is because I'm wearing Shorgo. Yeah, bro. You're in the short show. We also got a live audience here. Why is why? Yeah. So

there's thirty men in this house. Why?

Why is there a sausage fest? Give us answers. This is the power of Sean. So, Allison, here's the deal. So the story was is that you wanted to do this. And it happened in three weeks. Yeah. I just hit up a bunch of people. Actually, you know what? The way it really came together was I just tweeted it out because if you do that shit, like, you know, just it's like a luck magnet. Good things can happen. And a hundred something people signed up for it.

Scrolling through the names. And it's like, what's your Twitter handle? And one of them said mister Beast. And I was like, but I but I was like, it's a Google form. Anybody could write mister Beast. I was like, oh, yeah, whatever. Some jackass.

Then he DMs me and goes, this sounds fun.

And I we don't know each other. Yeah. I don't know him at all. And he's like, I was like, oh, shit. That was real. Oh, shit. This is on. We're gonna do it now. And then I was like,

He's like, where are we doing it? And I was like, where does mister Beast live? North Carolina? I was like, yeah. Everything about doing it near Duke. He's like, okay. I'll come then. And then I got everybody else in that. You follow him on on Twitter. But,

Ben from how to take a world, like, retweeted him. And I was like, who's this guy that tapped? And he just tweeted, like, five seconds ago. I'm hosting an NBA camp for, like, entrepreneurs. So I was, like, oh, this looks cool. And then I just That's how crazy life is. I don't know who this is, but, I mean, basketball sense was. And then he calls me week, he's like,

you know, I'm coming, but, like, I don't know who you are. So, like, what's your deal? And here we are.

You do that. You just walk around and call people. Yeah. Well, I just like learning him. That's how you just Was it did you hear how he got connected with Ben? No. Alright. So Ben, over here, he is our producer, and he hosts this amazing podcast called how to take over the world. And I get how did you find it?

Bro. This is gonna get so many levels.

No one has any idea where you've been talking about it. No. They do. Because Cliff, who's sitting there told me to listen to how to take over the world. So I listened to it who retweeted his tweet about the camp and here I am. So You know what's fun about life story? He's like, This is dog shit content. Because on YouTube, you had to be on point, like, in the first ten seconds, you needed to, like, grip people. He's like, this is their podcast. I've already got over twenty ways we could this better in my head. What are they? Alright. What would they be? Let's go. Already twenty ways. Well, that's what this podcast is. It's a brainstorm. We've already switched topics, like, five times, and we didn't really hit them with, like, a hard one at the start. Like, would have been better if it's, like, I don't know. Like, we told some crazy story or something, like, to hook them or, like, I don't know. Or me, for the ones who don't know, then, like, they're like, oh, now I know I shoulda listened. Like, alright. Well, what's the podcast for seconds? Well, you were ten second intro. Guys, in this, we're gonna teach you how to make a fucking million dollars. If you don't have a million dollars. We're gonna show you in this podcast. Like, something like that. Now they're gonna listen. Alright. So here's what's interesting. We got me and Sam. Mhmm. We got Hudson,

Minhash who's a famous comedian, Netflix special.

We haven't announced it yet, but yeah, sure.

Breaking news.

We got

Jimmy aka Mr. Beast, mister Beast, craziest crossover. Yeah. So while You guys just met tonight. We met, like, an hour ago. Yeah. Alright. Give me first impressions. What do you think of, mister B. Is it cool guy? Yeah. You seem really cool. What did you think coming in?

I just knew he was a a big, like, prank stunt.

He's the he's the voice of YouTube. He's voice of a genre too. Or he's how you thought he would be?

I thought I feel like I feel like his Are you gonna get your turn too? I feel like his, like, curiosity, enthusiasm, all that stuff is really cool. Yeah. I I listened to him on rogan. He was really he's really fascinating. What about you? What was your first impression?

I mean, kinda the same thing. Like, it was I mean, you're just easy to talk to, which I think was very nice. Like, we were talking for, like, an hour.

Just turned to this in Indian matchmaking so fast. I feel like, what did you do? Hold hands, man. Hold hands. Hey, look. He said that ring on his finger. He's taken. I'm taken by. Dude, you said he said something really interesting to me earlier. We're just you and I were shooting the shit. Oh, god. What is it? And,

we're, we're talking about

business. I I I think I you said Elon Musk is like, you I don't know if you said hero, but you're like, I think he's, like, the pinnacle of entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurship. Yeah. Sure. And I was like, well, what what do you what's gonna be your SpaceX or what's gonna be your, like, big rocket thing, you know? And you said, well, Elon had Zip too when he was around my age. So Zip too was, like, his peer filing his peer sharing service that he sold and he made, like, twenty or thirty million dollars. Yeah. And then he took that and he did Paypal and then whatever else he did.

And you said something like, you know, I think I can build, like, a hundred billion dollar company. But if I'm being modest, I'll build a couple

a couple at least billion dollar companies. Yeah. But but then but and then you go, but I don't really care about the money. I just love winning. I just wanna win. And I was like, yes. Sounds about right. I'm about this. I like that. I mean, like, money is cool, but, you know, I live in my studio. I don't have, like, a mansion. I don't travel in the beginning. So it's, like, I like money because it can I can hire more people and grow my business, but not so I can, like, increase my lifestyle or whatever? So which, you know, most people when you say that's why I I prefer to say I love winning because it it kinda encapsulates it a little bit more because if if you just, like, you know, talk about money, then people just think you just wanna buy expensive stuff. Do your employees? We we went to his office today or we went to his studio, and he's like, took us on tour. Cool. This is where we blow shit up. This this guy's Tom blew me off,

but we we walk through. He's like, alright. Yeah. This is this boardroom. This is my office. And so we go in, and it's basically, like, imagine, like, kinda like, a a a gaming chair, computer. That's standard next to it. I guess, like, two other objects in the room. Just take it a guess.

That he had. Yeah. Analgene water bottle and,

does he have nine answers on the floor? A bench press directly next to the desk.

And then the walls were just like a Steve Jobs quote, an Elon quote, a Steve Jobs quote,

There's like a timeline. Like, at this age, Steve Jobs was here. At this age, even the shit. You're motivated by that shit.

Ahead of it. Also, some of those Elon quotes aren't even real. Love to just put fakie long quotes. So if people read it to see if they're like, oh, that's inspiring or just completely mute. Well, they're not that entitled. One was just one right in front of your desk goes. Work super hard.

Elon Musk. So that's one of the real ones, but at my assistant, like, trying to find the dumbest things Elon's ever probably said. So I can put mixed with all the real quotes just to see if people believe him or not. Were you good at school? No. Horrible. Really? God awful. Wow. Okay. Yeah. That was Like, I mean, I would act like I was studying, but, you know, I was filming videos. I actually, my entire high school career never brought my book back home or anything. I would just, like, throw it under like, the bleachers. And then in the morning, I'd just grab it. Your first video is what you were like twelve. Right? Yeah. Oh, actually, I started making rounds eleven. Yeah. Wow. Holy shit. Yeah. And it's crazy because I see eleven year olds now. They're like, this tall and squeakers. And I'm like, how was I making videos?

This this kid looks

Is your first video still left?

No. Because I got embarrassed because people had played in class. I deleted my channel, and then I made a new one when I was thirteen. It's a little Wow. But the thirteen year old videos are still up. Yeah. Thirteen or so. Wow. Okay. One that's dope. That's, like, a message to myself in five years.

Calling a shot. Do you know what he's talking about? So the the greatest thing I ever did in my life is I was studying for history tests, like, back in a long time ago, when I had, like, eight thousand subscribers, I was like, screw this. I just closed my book. I threw it on the floor. And I just recorded a video I schedule uploaded a video for six months. And I go, hi me in six months. I think I'll have a hundred thousand subscribers, whatever. Or, no, a ten thousand subscribers. I was

like, and then I hit stop recording, then hit record. High me in a year, and I scheduled up because you can upload videos to a future video a year out. It's like, you better have a hundred thousand. And I was like, High me in five years. Bro, if you don't have a million subscribers, you're a fucking idiot. And I just would talk to me five years from now. I was just, like, talking about the channel. I filmed it when I had eight thousand subscribers a long time ago, and then I did hide me in ten years, blah, blah. So ten years hasn't come out yet, but hide me in five years came out. My prediction was I'd have a million subscribers Wow. So it goes live on the channel, like, two years ago. And I had, like, forty million subscribers. But in the video that goes live, it's, like, here's the date Here's the time I'm like a fucking stupid teenage kid. And I'm like, I hope you have at least a million subscribers, and maybe you're doing this as a job. I don't know. I make, like, ten bucks a month right now. Like, I hope you can make it a job in the next five years. And that went public, and I completely forgot even did that. And just I was like, oh, shit. I opened up YouTube. I saw it. Everyone thought it was I thought it was one of the coolest things I ever did. Wow. And you're like a little kid in Yeah. And so -- Wow. -- in, like, three more years, high me in ten years goes up. And I'm, like, I don't remember what's in it. I'm just, like, I hope by now, you should be out of college. Yeah. You're definitely out of college. I think that's how I started it. And you should be doing your two full time. Like, there's just no world you're not after ten years. Like, you're probably making a little bit of money. I just hope you are. Like, I hope you didn't And how much were you at the time?

Like, I was that's eight k subs, like, making ten bucks a month. And so, my prediction in ten years was, like, I hope you're doing this as a job. And so when that goes up, I think that's gonna be crazy. And when when we were talking today, you, like, you talk with a lot of certainty about,

like, where you're going, what you're doing. There's, like, very like, if everybody's got this knob that's, like, doubt,

Your knobs set to zero on doubt. That's my that's my I don't know. Is that accurate? Yeah. Well, I think it's we I don't know. We'd probably spend, like, twenty, thirty times longer, thinking of ideas than other people. We probably film, like, ten times more than other people. We probably spend a hundred times for a video more than other people. So it's like, we put in the effort, but I don't I had to say it was not arrogant. I just believe in what we're doing. You know what I mean? Back then, like, how much do you think you believe when you when you recorded that video that that was Oh, no. I mean, those were just different times. I was, in the middle of bum fuck nowhere, North Carolina. So it's, like, everyone, you know, constantly willing to drive me. You're not gonna be a youtuber. Girl up. Be realistic. I think it's amazing that you never left North Carolina though. Yeah. You're still in bumfunk, North That's great. I wanna talk about it. Yeah. Try to make it not bumpfunk anymore, but it's a work in progress.

Do you still rep it really hard?

I mean, I just I got a lot. I mean, some of these people over here work there. I just got a lot of people and it's too much to move. What was what was your metric instead of drivers and, like, views when you were younger because with with with business, it's like revenue or employees. You guys are both business you're also like a more creative thing. So what was yours? Yeah. When I was coming up, it was probably did can you do a set on late night? Can you do, like, a conan set? Yeah. Could you could you be on

I'll be a,

I'll be a cast member of S and L. Like, those were the metrics, kind of those, like, legacy media, comedy institutions.

I'll be in a movie. I wanna be in a sitcom. I wanna be in a TV show. And what it feel like when you started actually, like, you know, the Daily Show and then selling out. Yeah. That felt like a real, like, kinda check mark. Like, wow. You you've turned the corner. Didn't you tell me that that, like, right before that happened, you were living in a basement,

just living in an attic bro. Don't. Yeah. Yeah. Addocks are actually above sea level, but basements are below. Sometimes, you know, so Yeah. I was living like a kind of in a not a great situation, though. How I'm amazed at your confidence, bro. The level of the level of confident, like, the In the video? Sure. Just a sheer amount of confidence you have because I I I still think maybe a downside of comedies, you have to have, like, a very high level of Well, comedians use self deprecation

and self awareness to be like, you know what I mean? Well, you told me something because I was, like, trying to be funny. Right. And you sent me these, like, I messaged things that are, like, just gold. Right? Just he he sent me these voice notes. And one of the things you would say, he was trying to write a he was, like, trying to do kinda like a comedy monologue. Yeah. YouTube video's up there. Seventeen thousand views. No big deal. Yeah. So But but you gave me a little hit. You go The ego on this man.

Bro, you started an eight k. I'm at seventeen. Yeah. I'm at least gonna come. Yeah. Okay. But he says something you go

comedy is low low status game. You start low status. You you told me, is that a trade secret? Or can you think of that? You know, it's like there's high status and low status. Generally, if you're low status,

they're gonna empathize with you. You know what I mean? So So I wasn't an example. You get you being like, I I got seventeen thousand views in front of a guy who gets like fifty million views. Right. But that was unacceptable. But we're gonna but we're gonna empathize more with you than we are with mister Beast in that scenario because you're like, Oh, man. You know? And if you're if you're, like, funny about it and to be confident about,

that

well, if if if you kind of own it, people are like, oh, like, I even just now we did like an awkward icebreakers of the group. Yeah. If you and I was thinking about this because, you know, I've my prompt was say your name and say one thing and nobody in the in the room knows about you. Yeah. Which was basically, like, You can't be like, I'm mister Beast. I make much YouTube videos. I'm, you know, you it's, like, you can't use your claim to fame. You gotta use something else. Right. And everybody was saying something interesting. And then I think Suli was the first one who was just, like, I played one game of Little League Baseball in my life because I shit my pants, and they wouldn't let me come out. That was really great. Yeah. That was that. By the way, a hundred thousand. Yeah. That's gonna listen to that one.

But he did a low status one where everybody else was saying a fun, like, a cool fact about them. Totally. He went low. And somebody else was like, you know, I remarried my ex wife, which makes me either the biggest city in the world,

or, I guess, the biggest city in the world. Yeah. He's like, hey,

group. Share something. No one on the planet knows. No one. And then five minutes later, alright, podcast. Here's what they said. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, shitting your shitting your pants at little league.

Pretty. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty low status. And then, yeah, being like, alright, I double backed and married my ex wife again. Like, yeah. Yeah. Like, no one knows this. Jimmy, we're were you confident as a as a kid? In the career? Yeah. Just as a kid. No. I had a fucking god awful acne when I was younger. Still have a ton of acne scarves. So what are you even worse? What are you not confident about? So you're confident in your work and your ability to hit certain goals whether revit cards. Actually, at least, man, honestly,

I'm still trying to get confident speaking in front of large groups of people, which made me wanna ask you a question because we're talking about stand up. Yeah. How

so let's if I dedicated my life to trying to be a stand up comic, how long do you think it would take for me to get good at it? I mean, I

what's the typical

curve. Everybody says it takes you ten years to get good, but I just think it all depends on,

like your natural capacity and inclination.

For it. Mhmm. Like, there's some people I've seen when they're open micers. They're amazing. You know, they just have great stage presence. They have great stories. They're they're amazing on stage. So those people like that, comics that I've met where I'm like, the first time I saw them they were amazing.

Gerard Carmichael was like that. He was incredible. He was just incredible. He was so comp we would do open mics and he would just

Everybody was doing was turning left, and he was just turning right. Like, he just his his vulnerability, his stage presence,

people would do their set. He would do things where, like,

it'd be like a Conan showcase. And everyone would do their polish material. You're like, hey, what's up? I'm huston. And, you know, I was like, dating's hard. He would just get up and he would just off the dome, like, kind of do a brand new set that night. And how long do you think it would

take him to get good. I don't I mean, it's that's, like, the question you just asked is, like, how long would it take me to be as as good as Ariana Grande at singing? You're like, how would I even

They're, like, it's not a it's not a hack like, or if you ask, if you ask, like, MMA fighter, like, how long would it take me to get as good as you, like, it's, oh, thank you.

It's a

see, that's a low you you put them in low status. You offered the two waters to me. Now I feel weird. Now I gotta put them on the side. No. I have to go to town.

No, dude. Low status. I spent a whole lifetime behind you guys. No. No. You guys

I have to I have to I have to give mister Beast his water. You know what I mean? Jimmy, what are you what are your Like, you you legacy media hack. I just gotta, I gotta pour the water for him in the yeah. It's just fuck out of here. Is your company ran, like, a normal company at all? Or, and what would your employees say about working with you? I mean, too. You understand? Damn. I don't know. That's a three question. That's a three question. I don't know.

Yeah. Have you had, like, you learn how to run a company? Do you ever had you did you have to hire someone? That's what's hard because, like,

yeah, sure. He wants to come on in. That that does a couple of searches. Yeah. You take over. So the question was, like, what's like working with him? Oh, it's great. I mean, it's always different. No. It really is. It's always mostly.

Here's the thing. No. Here's role. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. We know it's great. I get fired.

You're fired. Sorry. I'm already

Like, the house, Tarika, to answer that, but not Well, but listen.

Let me ask you a better question. Yes. Alright. So the better question is what's

the

fucking employers. What's the, like, extreme, either extreme good part or extreme bad part about work with them? We know it's the overall extreme. Actually, I will I will say that right now.

So extremely important is is the experiences. Like, I've done experiences that I've never could have imagined in my entire life, like the traveling, the doing the coolest stunts that we've ever done.

The the worst part is is, I guess,

not knowing, like, what's next in terms of routine, and he knows this best too. Like, we all kinda go through it if if you work at Mr. B. So but that comes with it. You know what I mean? And and that's something that you kinda have to accept.

But, yeah, I think that's my answer. Alright. Well, and the reason I was asking was because,

you Why your favorite boss? A great person. So far a hundred percent. Yeah.

Well, no. I was I was asking because my my employees sometimes would complain that I'd be, like, too aggressive, changing things too much. But you see more aggressive than I am. Yeah. And for a certain type of person, they like that. But for you to achieve your goals, you're gonna have to have a lot of people, and then every once in a while and everyone's around infrastructure and everyone's around planning. Are you a perfectionist?

Well, of course. Yeah.

I, you know, it just

I just like to make the greatest YouTube videos possible, and that's that's literally all I want. So, yeah, I mean, if it's not the greatest video, I just won't upload it. And so after you scrap a few videos, we kinda ever you know, just kinda starts to figure it out. Does it scare you that you can't stop? Do you ever feel like, damn, I'm like, I'm, I'm just throwing all these coals on the on the embers of the the algorithm. I like to use a better analogy. It's like a treadmill. We're on, like, twelve. Like, the full speed I've been going out a couple years.

No. It doesn't scare me, but So, like, I was telling him, the way I like to work is, like, I like to go basically wake up obsess over something, go to bed, wake up obsessed, go to bed, every second of the day until I just have a mental breakdown and burnout, and then I, like, take a day off or maybe a day and a half off. And I like to go right back to it. So I don't, like, work certain days. I just go as hard as I can every ounce of my entire body until I just crash. And somehow, that's sustainable. What time what time do you sleep?

Right now, usually around three AM. Wow. And then what and then and then you get up at, like Whenever

whenever Rohan or one of them knock on my door. Tariq will wake you up and just, like, But, yeah, people will roll me out of bed. They're like, you need to go watch this video so we could submit it or I need help with the thumbnail or you gotta go film. It's like, I don't know. I I'm kind of I they tell me what to do. I don't think Well, I'm just shocked at, like, the numbers. So, like, you're the the I I don't I'll let you reveal any numbers, but you've re some big numbers for revenue, for your other businesses. Yeah. And

you have to have infrastructure for that. And so that's why I was wondering. I was like, because you you are like this Oh, gotcha. Yeah. So on the stereotype, you're, like, this crazy, creative person who's disorganized, and that's perfect. Yeah. But to sell that much of candy and or of, burgers. Like, you gotta be Yeah. So those are all separate entities. So for our snack brand, we hired Jim, who helped build our Xbar, and we built a team around him. So that's a whole independent company that doesn't even work out of our studio. And same thing with Biesper. So that's the beauty. I like to just find people who are just the best in the goddamn world at their job, and then just empower them and give them money. And So how many people work at the studio?

In the studio, like, sixty because we don't have enough space to fit everyone. So that's why we're trying to build more, but building things just take forever. Do do people like working for you, you think?

No. This the reason I'm asking is, like, these, like, creative types. I'm, like, curious. Think about lines, man. Because the goal is to make one of us like, a big deal. Everyone is working for that. Whereas a lot of other companies, it's like, no. There's like this It's not necessarily that either. There's also certain

projects where I'd be like, I'd love to learn from you. So there's been shows and movies that I've done, like, the morning show. Like, I've never done a sexy one hour drama. I wanna learn from Reese Witherspoon. I wanna learn from Jennifer Anderson. I wanna learn from the show creators. Like, how do you do that? How do you shoot that? What's that lens? What are you doing that? Is that a fifty? Is that a seventy five? How did you do that tracking shot? Why did you do that tracking shot? Let me see the script. Let me see the future script. There's all these things where I'm like, I just wanna absorb. I just wanna see how you do the whole thing. You know what I mean? Like, and that's a additive,

like, positive value for me

because most people don't have that access to that. You know? Yeah. I mean, his samples, Tariq gotta be his idol today. Oh, man.

Bro, Tariq, you gotta set the bar. Yeah. We had told them that you were coming today to the thing. And, like, the look of disappointment when they saw it was I was the only brown guy there. So, like, that ain't how

they're like, yo, hustlers change. Yeah.

I was just I hate to be running on top of it. And they were like, what's the it really does that test pilot, man.

Do that, bro. Don't do that.

When we were at your office, so you you have like a big Elon, Steve Jobs,

Like, you admire these guys. That's why you like the how to take over the world podcast because you like learning from them. What's a story that you heard that you're, like,

that, like, stuck with you. You remembered, you referenced, it, like, kinda changed the way you were thinking. From those two in particular, I think the biggest thing is, like, that Steve became a billionaire from Pixar, you know, not even Apple. And so, like, the fact that he could go

to this, just not even hardware company, more creative storytelling company, and just kick ass and create films like Toy Story and all these other bangers,

and just just build that company up to whatever it was, like, them Disney buy for seven billion. And meanwhile Apple's just falling to the ground and about to go out of business, And then they, you know, buy them back, but next. And all of a sudden, rebounds. And, basically, the way they did, it was just getting rid of ninety percent of products and just focusing on, like, four or five. I mean, It just shows like the power that one individual had, even though both companies had, you know, I don't know, but Pixar had thousands of employees, and Pixar probably had at least hundreds And despite all of that, you know, one man can make that much of a difference. Like, the power of having good vision and just not relenting is, like, invaluable. Do you think your your biggest strength is probably your curiosity?

You're you're down to do anything. Well, so I think what you have to do is you have to always be learning. Alright. That's how you can, like, like, with our ideas, right? Cause we like to do original ideas that no one's ever done before. And I I might have told you this when we're talking the phone. Thing is, like, there is a hypothetical fruit in Japan that if you eat it, makes it where you can jump thirty feet taller. Right? If that exists in this world right now, you didn't know it existed So you couldn't come up with something around that. It's very hyper specific, but there's like a million things like that in the world that, like, if you don't know about it or you're intaking the inspiration, you can't really come up with something. Like, if I were to try and get the stamp, like, that's how I would try to do something different. I just try to take intake a bunch of different

information, see what spawns my head. So I try to always be learning. Would the mister b's version of stand up be like, I'm gonna do the longest set ever. I'm gonna do the longest comedy set ever. Would it have to be the would that be the Mr. Beast, like, twist on it? I would have to find something different. Because, obviously, the whatever's currently out there, you know, because to I have a bunch of people on my team who are stand ups. Like, it's been done a bunch of times. So we'd have to figure out something -- Got it. -- different, which I would love to one day, just because it seems fun because Drake talks to me about all the time. But in general, you gotta always just be intaking inspiration from different places, whether it be different podcasts, books, or different knowledge. I have people that I pay that just teach me things. Just whatever, like things that what's that thing? I don't know. What what do you mean by that? Like, they'll just find things that they don't think I'm aware of or show me cool things and be like, don't think you know this is a thing here. Read about it. And so that way I'm always, like, what's what's an example? And how many how many of these people do you have? Is it awesome? Right now, just like or three. Yeah. Jimmy, they they call those people. Those are teachers.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, he's, like, he's, like, he's, like, they'll sit me down for about an hour at a time. And what's what's wild is they'll focus on us subject. And it's, like,

What's going on right now? You know, I never thought about that. And a couple hundred grand. That's why we keep them around. That's why we keep them around. No.

But it's like different top

Yeah. Like, the last one was, like, about just like crazy online.

Like, which, like, the these, like, little things where they'll upload a file to Reddit and then, like, insights and encrypted code takes you to a website, which takes you to a book. And, like, these little, like, module trace puzzles and, like, seeing if that inspired me. I don't know. It's just random things for that. I'm black. So

in point, I'm trying to always expand my knowledge well in my head with new things that I can draw inspiration from. I was giving him props earlier where I said

so much of people who kinda rev the algorithm are usually being divisive.

They're they're saying something that's gonna make you mad. Right. Like, I have a joke where I make fun of MDs and DOs and DOs get really mad. And, you know, it's like that's like a niche physician's joke, but people get upset. Right. But, Sam was so cool about,

what you do is I think really what you've tapped into is joy and spectacle and wonder,

which is which is like a counter to that, and it's very rare to see that really take off on the internet. So what made you feel like I'm gonna do that versus

do videos that that might that might agitate people per se? Yeah. Well, I do think in general, it is a little bit easier to piss people off and get attention. For sure. It's a lot harder to do good and get attention. So that's why I think a lot of people don't. But for me, because we just had this ability to go viral, it's just kinda like There's a world where I make videos and I don't help people, and there's a world where I make videos and I do help people. The world where I do help people is just a little bit more fun. That's why I do it. I don't I you know, PR wise, I should have a better answer, but that's kind of the truth. Are some

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What creators do you guys look up to? Oh, I'm curious to see what you say. What creators do I look up to? YouTubers, podcasters,

comedians.

Podcast. I was gonna say creators.

It could be an it could be anybody. Anyway. I think one of the first people that really inspired me, I think, was probably Stephen Spielberg.

Really? Yeah. I mean, he's one of the greatest storytellers ever. What was the first movie that you saw where you're my god. I was blown away. For me, it was Jurassic Park.

As a kid. I I only watched YouTube grown up. I've seen That's it. Yeah. Which made fun time. What was the last movie that you watched? Well, I watched the the Spider Man three one because I never saw the earlier ones. Really? Yeah. Like, you have no time for movies or whatever. No. It's not that time. I just I don't know. I I need to. Like, I need to go back and watch star wars and Harry Potter and all that stuff to get brought up on culture, but I was just like, you didn't and so you didn't see squid game. You just did the squid game agreement. Squid game a it, yeah, before we did it. Got it. Like, I wouldn't count that as a movie. Like, I I watched a ton of anime, but, yeah, movies, and weirdly enough, like, growing up. I didn't listen to music or watch movies. So I was, like, so out of culture -- Wow. -- which is part of why it was an introvert. There's this kind of Gregor quote where they're like, you know, he was on BBC or something. It's a bigger appearance, not just niche UFC thing. Yeah. And they're like, what do you think about this team or this game? He's like, he's like, you know, the, yeah, that one you said, they're great. It was, like, arsenal. Yeah. He's, like, arsenal. And they're, like, you don't know anything about Arsenal. Right? He's, like, he's, like, I don't watch the news. He's, like, I don't watch I don't follow the news. I don't watch sports. I don't do anything. He goes, I have lost my mind to the game. He goes, I am obsessed with my game. I have lost my mind to it. Don't have time for anything else. I don't wanna know about anything else. I really wanna know about this game. When we were hanging out, I feel like you had that vibe where you were like,

you said a couple things. You were like, I decided I was gonna be a YouTuber, and I was gonna make great videos. And it didn't matter if I died the most famous YouTuber of all time, or ninety years old with a thousand subscriber I was gonna make great YouTube videos. Like, that's that's what I decided I was gonna do, and that's all I do. What was the wake up? And I do that thing. What was that first YouTube video that you saw kinda filled you with that wonder where you're like, wow. Oh, well, this guy actually,

got hacked, like, a very long time ago. This, like, called you to YouTuber, and they, like, leaked his earnings. And he had made, like, a hundred thousand dollars a year, the last few years. And I remember being, like, ten and being, like, what the fuck? They make that kind they make money doing this. And I was just so mind blowing that they actually made money it was more than my mom. Like, yeah. It was right there when I was like, okay. I'm doing this. Like, I just don't care. I'm being a youtuber or I'm gonna fucking die trying. I just don't And that, like, the second I saw that was actually possible, that's when I was, like, that's it. And it's funny also talking about, like, obsession and stuff like this, because it's funny how it changes. Right? When you're, like, maybe it's different now because social media's a little bit cooler, but when I was younger, like, no one wanted to be a youtuber. Like, most people, when I was thirteen fourteen, didn't even have phones yet. Like, it was kinda like a little bit of an older thing. Maybe it's just because of where I grew up. But it's funny because back then, people were like, get a live, stop being a fucking nerd. Like, you're too obsessive. You're weirdo. And then now it's like, Oh, bro, he was so obsessive. He's it's so great. Right. I see there's a positive quality. Yeah. And it's so funny, like, looking back from our life, going from fucking loser nerd who's too obsessive and won't go anywhere to, like, damn, that's really inspiring.

And it's like, damn, that was very hurtful back then, but that was inspiring now.

And so it's funny to see how it changes, but I like to bring that up because if there are younger people or parents who have kids who are obsessive like this, that's typically what happens. Like, younger kids don't understand that. And it's different. And so you don't watch the newest south park or the newest movie or whatever. So you you don't talk about the same thing, so then people are just like, oh, well, you know, fucking sucks. You know what I mean? How would you how would you deal with that? Because you have kids. I have kids. If they go, I wanna be a twitch streamer, I wanna be a video gamer. You're like, let's go. I had the same realization. I was like, Oh, so wait a minute. We spend the first eighteen years of our life trying to fit in. That's how I felt in school. I was trying to fit in all the time. What do what do people do that's cool? How do I do that thing? Right. And then once I was, like, in the adult world, it's like, oh, shit. Now we spend our whole life trying to stand out. Like, what what was all that other shit? Why was I why was I so focused on fitting in if the rest of your life you're trying to stand out? Realized, like, oh, shit. Standing out has been the game the whole time. Mhmm. And the way you stand out is not by trying to figure it out. Just like whatever you're obsessed with, just let that ride because you'll go on a path that nobody else is gonna copy, and then you'll, you know, you'll land in a good spot. So if my kid, like, my daughter's two right now, Right. If she was into gaming or she was trying to be a creator, all that stuff, I would be all in on it because I know even if that's not your end game,

following your obsession is, like, the thing to do in life. You know, that will always work out, but, you know, if you, like, actually go down that path. What most people do is they hedge.

They like this thing, but then they see this path that's more proven or shiny, or they don't know if it's gonna work, so they only have try. Right? And then it's like that hedge is actually what gets you. It's not that this career path was that hard. It's that hedging is like, you know What was your measurement college? Biology. The ultimate hedge.

Ultimate hedge. That was different. I just didn't know. I don't know. What what what I think is actually, actually, you could be doing the, like,

YouTube, TikTok,

show. I feel like you can look at his videos and be like, alright. I get it. I get why people like this. I get why this pops. Probably pretty tempting to be like, Could I go get fifty million views, a hundred million views? That seems nice. No. To to do what he's done, what he's done, he I'm not gonna I'm not allowed to say. You said you you spend x number of dollars every video. Oh, yeah. I'll let you start

it off. You can say, yeah, our average view is around one point five million dollars. I mean, that's he when he does that now, but go look at his archive. Right? It's like, he took a plastic knife and tried to cut a plastic table and it took him forty eight hours to do that. That's a that's a dollar fifty video. Right? That's not a one point five million. That's one point five. A hundred thousand zero dollars. It's a different thing. It's a different thing. So that's like a different type of skill set and muscle. So with the the types of videos he's producing, stand up is different. If if a musician was here, if a DJ was here, it's not all the same, just because it's on YouTube. So we all do different types of media. This is a different type of media. Are you tempted to, like, you know, dabble? Definitely talked about this. Right? I mean,

I I the only the the thing that I,

would be,

I would be reticent of is

What if I have I have to put this thing out and I don't believe in it, or I'm just doing it just to do it? That's the that would be the problem. I have to put up a new video every Tuesday. That's the Right. Well, just delete the video. I know. I know. What do you do if you if you yeah. Sometimes we don't wanna upload for two months. You just only upload when it's a great video. Yeah. That's all that matters. Yeah. So I think it's dumb when people stick to, like, a schedule and they're like, oh, the view is not great, but I upload every Tuesday. It's like, who cares? What are you guys trying to figure out right now? Because I think if you watch a lot of interviews with people, it's like, they it's all buttoned up. It's all figured out. They're already successful. It's all working. And then the person who's these videos, typically somebody who doesn't have it all figured out. And they're just sort of like, oh, that's different. Like, that'd be nice to have it all figured out, but the reality is nobody's got it all figured out. Right? Like, we were in an office the whiteboard's full because you're thinking of new. Yeah. Like, where are we going? What's not figured out? We gotta figure it out. So what's on both y'all's plate of, like, What are you still trying to figure out in your game? Well, I'll let you take it first. Yeah, Sean. What are you trying to figure out? Yeah.

Come on, Sean. I'm trying to figure out I'll tell you. I'll try to figure out if I wanna go all in on content creating.

Wow. Like, I basically built businesses.

I have the most fun doing this, but I don't know if I had the most fun just because it's a hobby.

And, like,

you know, I only get the good. I don't put put all the work in. It than going on. I mean, it's not gonna be less. Do you love it? I love doing it the way we're doing it now. Yeah. If I was, like, him obsessed every hour of every day trying to be like, are we gonna grow this channel? I might not love it as much. Did you like doing the Twitter thing?

For period of time. It got old. Yeah. Yeah. It got old. It it was it was fun to chase the number. We get to a hundred thousand in, like, a few months? Yeah. This is fun to chase a number, but that didn't that Yeah. I got sick of it too. That didn't last. So that gives me word. But that's the thing I'm trying to figure out. It's like, Should I go all in on content creating, or should I stay with creating businesses? Which one is, like, what what do I wanna be when I grow up? That's the question. I'm I'm asking myself that exact same question too. Because sometimes, like, when you're when you create business first, I didn't go to content. I'm like, oh, man. Am I just gonna talk about doing it all the time? Or am I just gonna fucking do it?

So I I I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. I feel exactly the same way. What about you?

Right right now,

I'm trying to stay loose for this game tomorrow. That's what I'm trying to

I'm not trying to get tight, man. I'm I'm thirty six. We're pushing thirty seven. Like,

He's a young boy. Like, he he might run us off the court. Yeah. I was like, yo, my

me, and I'm like, dude my l fours hurting. Like, my my hamstrings are kinda tight from this flight. We got to his studio and he was like, he's got a hoop there. Yeah. He's like, oh, we got we got six. Let's play a game. He's wearing his, like,

yeezy slides. I was like, bro, I need fifteen minutes of stretching. And then, like, you know, I need, like, proper

Yeah. Do you guys wanna gaball? Yeah. If there was an indoor choir, we would do it. Yeah. I played I played twenty one with Jimmy right now. Yeah. Okay. That'd be a fun that would be that would be a fun video. Terri. That would be a fun video. You wanna make Kevin?

Yeah. Let's do it. You can place anyone. A court somewhere around here. We'll play twenty one.

Amazing.

We'll play twenty one or horse. Yeah. We'll wrap up with this with with your with your answer. Okay. What was the question? What's not figured out? What are you trying to figure out in in Oh, no. Everything. So I'm just gonna say a funny joke to change the topic. Basketball. How to not not train my legs tomorrow. There you go. There we go.