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What is it about this writing style that's so slippery that I just can't get it's like a TikTok feed. I can't get out of it. You know? And so I would say it's like more like a door where you kinda gotta go knock and and take a leap of faith that there is something on the other side of this. You can't see exactly what you're gonna until the door opens.

What is it about this writing style that's so slippery that I just can't get it's like a TikTok feed. I can't get out of it. You know? And so I would say it's like more like a door where you kinda gotta go knock and and take a leap of faith that there is something on the other side of this. You can't see exactly what you're gonna until the door opens.

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Alright. We're live. Cool sweatshirt.

Alright. We're live. Cool sweatshirt.

00:30

What's going on?

What's going on?

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Oh, dude. I already told you. I couldn't I can't talk about it on on air, but I am,

Oh, dude. I already told you. I couldn't I can't talk about it on on air, but I am,

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you know, there's some days where a five there's a fire on the third floor, and you gotta grab the extinguisher and go put it out. And so that's what I've been doing today is putting out. And I'm glad that I did this, which is had a bunch of family coming in town for Thanksgiving.

you know, there's some days where a five there's a fire on the third floor, and you gotta grab the extinguisher and go put it out. And so that's what I've been doing today is putting out. And I'm glad that I did this, which is had a bunch of family coming in town for Thanksgiving.

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Wife was like, oh, yeah. It's great. We got my sister coming. We got this person coming. This person coming from India. Was like, oh, god. Okay.

Wife was like, oh, yeah. It's great. We got my sister coming. We got this person coming. This person coming from India. Was like, oh, god. Okay.

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She's like, you know, we should host Thanksgiving. I said, you know, I love the giving spirit. I love the idea.

She's like, you know, we should host Thanksgiving. I said, you know, I love the giving spirit. I love the idea.

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But we're not hosting anything on Thanksgiving. Why? Because we have an e commerce company, and Black Friday is the biggest sales day of the year. And she said, well, what are we gonna do? Like, you know, it's just gonna sell online. Like, We're not gonna go to the warehouse or something and go fulfill it. Yeah. So what do we need to do? I said, sometimes you gotta create space

But we're not hosting anything on Thanksgiving. Why? Because we have an e commerce company, and Black Friday is the biggest sales day of the year. And she said, well, what are we gonna do? Like, you know, it's just gonna sell online. Like, We're not gonna go to the warehouse or something and go fulfill it. Yeah. So what do we need to do? I said, sometimes you gotta create space

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because you just wanna be available.

because you just wanna be available.

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You wanna have buffer. You don't wanna be fully booked in case you need to do it. Maybe you have an idea that something you could do to drive sales or in this case,

You wanna have buffer. You don't wanna be fully booked in case you need to do it. Maybe you have an idea that something you could do to drive sales or in this case,

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what if shit absolutely hit the fan? And you had to do something to recover, which is exactly what happened today. I created space. My COO was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go pick this person up from the airport that day. It should be no problem. Guess what? She's in the car.

what if shit absolutely hit the fan? And you had to do something to recover, which is exactly what happened today. I created space. My COO was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go pick this person up from the airport that day. It should be no problem. Guess what? She's in the car.

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She's hitting the fan and she can't get to a computer and she's did not create enough space. And so that was a a great That's an evolution for you because you are not the man at creating space. I was not a space creator.

She's hitting the fan and she can't get to a computer and she's did not create enough space. And so that was a a great That's an evolution for you because you are not the man at creating space. I was not a space creator.

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That's that's come with, you know, some gray hairs and wisdom

That's that's come with, you know, some gray hairs and wisdom

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is is this idea. So I'm glad I did it because shit's hitting the fan today. And, you know, I'm just hoping that I told you before this. I am hoping that

is is this idea. So I'm glad I did it because shit's hitting the fan today. And, you know, I'm just hoping that I told you before this. I am hoping that

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you know, my my safety,

you know, my my safety,

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my savings, my under the mattress savings of good luck needs to be cashed in today. I'm just I'm reaching under the mattress. I'm hoping it's still there. I feel like I put it there. I'm hoping that good luck is still there. I need it today.

my savings, my under the mattress savings of good luck needs to be cashed in today. I'm just I'm reaching under the mattress. I'm hoping it's still there. I feel like I put it there. I'm hoping that good luck is still there. I need it today.

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Well, okay. So I've got So what we're gonna I we're gonna talk about a products and media that we like, but and I have a couple I have one thing in particular that's gonna make a difference on your day today, actually. Okay. We could talk about it later. But, so today's episode is we're gonna talk about products and media that we've consumed throughout the year that we think are cool. Because I like talking about gadgets and and and media and so do you.

Well, okay. So I've got So what we're gonna I we're gonna talk about a products and media that we like, but and I have a couple I have one thing in particular that's gonna make a difference on your day today, actually. Okay. We could talk about it later. But, so today's episode is we're gonna talk about products and media that we've consumed throughout the year that we think are cool. Because I like talking about gadgets and and and media and so do you.

02:46

The stuff that you talked about laps last episode was actually quite amazing,

The stuff that you talked about laps last episode was actually quite amazing,

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that article about

that article about

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data and how it's easy to, re date it correctly. Kinda like a great find. It's kinda is that the idea? Great finds. These these are great finds we've had this year. Whether it's a product

data and how it's easy to, re date it correctly. Kinda like a great find. It's kinda is that the idea? Great finds. These these are great finds we've had this year. Whether it's a product

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or it's a piece of content, great finds. I think that's in the the Thanksgiving Spirit. I, you know, been thankful for it, but also

or it's a piece of content, great finds. I think that's in the the Thanksgiving Spirit. I, you know, been thankful for it, but also

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people have time. Oh, and they hopefully, people are creating a little space. You know, you you spend some family time.

people have time. Oh, and they hopefully, people are creating a little space. You know, you you spend some family time.

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And, but but me people have time over the holidays, and there's a good chance they either buy this as a gift for yourself for somebody else, or to just check something out that you haven't tried before. Alright. Well, let's start. Do you, you name one and I'll name one, or I can name a couple. What do you wanna do? Okay. Let's do I think we both have an app that we really like,

And, but but me people have time over the holidays, and there's a good chance they either buy this as a gift for yourself for somebody else, or to just check something out that you haven't tried before. Alright. Well, let's start. Do you, you name one and I'll name one, or I can name a couple. What do you wanna do? Okay. Let's do I think we both have an app that we really like,

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two different apps. So let's do the category of apps. So what's a great find you had? That's an app this year. Okay. Unfortunately, a lot of the things I might name are gonna involve fitness. A lot of them are gonna be one related. It's a fitness influencer life, bro. Like,

two different apps. So let's do the category of apps. So what's a great find you had? That's an app this year. Okay. Unfortunately, a lot of the things I might name are gonna involve fitness. A lot of them are gonna be one related. It's a fitness influencer life, bro. Like,

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A lot of them will be money related though, actually, and relaxation and mindset. So, the first one, zero. It's called zero. I believe Kevin Rose started it. Okay. So I've I I'd never thought that I was intermittent fasting, but in order just not to overeat throughout the day, I just wouldn't eat breakfast. Turns out that's called intermittent fast. That's not why I did

A lot of them will be money related though, actually, and relaxation and mindset. So, the first one, zero. It's called zero. I believe Kevin Rose started it. Okay. So I've I I'd never thought that I was intermittent fasting, but in order just not to overeat throughout the day, I just wouldn't eat breakfast. Turns out that's called intermittent fast. That's not why I did

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this app called zero. It's free. They have a paid version, which honestly, I don't think it does anything, but the free version, you you you say when you had your last meal and it tells you don't eat until and then you, in my case, it's sixteen hours. It's awesome. I love it. I can't believe how that one app actually makes me wanna stick to it as opposed to when I'm on my own. So that's that app has made a meaningful change in my day. What are you fasting? You're doing sixteen eight? Are you doing more intense than that? I do I do sixteen eight. So, basically,

this app called zero. It's free. They have a paid version, which honestly, I don't think it does anything, but the free version, you you you say when you had your last meal and it tells you don't eat until and then you, in my case, it's sixteen hours. It's awesome. I love it. I can't believe how that one app actually makes me wanna stick to it as opposed to when I'm on my own. So that's that app has made a meaningful change in my day. What are you fasting? You're doing sixteen eight? Are you doing more intense than that? I do I do sixteen eight. So, basically,

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I'll stop eating at eight PM, and I'll eat again at noon.

I'll stop eating at eight PM, and I'll eat again at noon.

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Right. So six that means sixteen hours. I'm not eating, eight hours eating. And when you eat in your eight hours, are you like,

Right. So six that means sixteen hours. I'm not eating, eight hours eating. And when you eat in your eight hours, are you like,

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you know, eating kale salads or you eat whatever you want in those eight hours? What do you want? I don't eat whatever I want. I usually eat meat and vegetables. That's what I I by work hard to give me. Or no portion sizing within that eight hours. You're fine. You just eat till you're full.

you know, eating kale salads or you eat whatever you want in those eight hours? What do you want? I don't eat whatever I want. I usually eat meat and vegetables. That's what I I by work hard to give me. Or no portion sizing within that eight hours. You're fine. You just eat till you're full.

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Yeah. I I portion control. Yeah. Definitely. I I eat very yeah. For sure. I try to eat twenty five hundred calories a day. Good. Good.

Yeah. I I portion control. Yeah. Definitely. I I eat very yeah. For sure. I try to eat twenty five hundred calories a day. Good. Good.

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Alright. So I have, anything else on zero. I think that's a that's a good one. I have tried it as well.

Alright. So I have, anything else on zero. I think that's a that's a good one. I have tried it as well.

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I like it. It's a super clean interface. Like, I like apps that just do one thing really well, and that's what that does.

I like it. It's a super clean interface. Like, I like apps that just do one thing really well, and that's what that does.

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Okay. Here's an app. I think I've talked about this, but I got big into breath work.

Okay. Here's an app. I think I've talked about this, but I got big into breath work.

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And so, there's two apps that if you wanna have kind of like a happier life, there's a lot of apps that will distract you, Instagram, TikTok, whatever,

And so, there's two apps that if you wanna have kind of like a happier life, there's a lot of apps that will distract you, Instagram, TikTok, whatever,

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There's apps that'll make you more productive, but they'll distract you from the real world. That's like email,

There's apps that'll make you more productive, but they'll distract you from the real world. That's like email,

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Slack, maybe Twitter.

Slack, maybe Twitter.

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And then there's apps that actually center you and ground you. And so my phone had enough of the distraction apps. I had enough of the productivity

And then there's apps that actually center you and ground you. And so my phone had enough of the distraction apps. I had enough of the productivity

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apps where I was lacking was

apps where I was lacking was

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Hey, how can I use this magic wand? That's how I think of my phone. It's a magic wand. I make I just I install an app and that's like a spell that I just could do some magic thing. I can get food to appear at my doorstep or I can, you know, summon a car or I can do all kinds of different crazy stuff. I can put my, you know, my mom thousands miles away. Her face can show up on my phone. Well, this one gets me grounded. And so there's two apps I wanted to call out. One, I think we've talked about before is called the five minute journal.

Hey, how can I use this magic wand? That's how I think of my phone. It's a magic wand. I make I just I install an app and that's like a spell that I just could do some magic thing. I can get food to appear at my doorstep or I can, you know, summon a car or I can do all kinds of different crazy stuff. I can put my, you know, my mom thousands miles away. Her face can show up on my phone. Well, this one gets me grounded. And so there's two apps I wanted to call out. One, I think we've talked about before is called the five minute journal.

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Ended up meeting the guy he done who who made this app.

Ended up meeting the guy he done who who made this app.

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I don't know if that was an app. I thought it was a notebook.

I don't know if that was an app. I thought it was a notebook.

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There is a notebook and then there's the app apps. I think it's a paid app. I think it's three bucks or five bucks or something like that, which is so funny because when I saw that, I was like, oh, I don't pay for apps. And I was like, wow. Like, my threshold for paying for shit on a phone is so low compared to, like, you know, a parking. It's a parking meter, but I could use this app forever that some guy created and coded and makes it do all these things. So

There is a notebook and then there's the app apps. I think it's a paid app. I think it's three bucks or five bucks or something like that, which is so funny because when I saw that, I was like, oh, I don't pay for apps. And I was like, wow. Like, my threshold for paying for shit on a phone is so low compared to, like, you know, a parking. It's a parking meter, but I could use this app forever that some guy created and coded and makes it do all these things. So

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five bucks. And what it does is you open it up, and it basically just has, like, a quote while it loads. It's always a good quote. They do they have good selection. And then it basically says, one of three things you're grateful for today. And the act of writing those down is great. This looks great.

five bucks. And what it does is you open it up, and it basically just has, like, a quote while it loads. It's always a good quote. They do they have good selection. And then it basically says, one of three things you're grateful for today. And the act of writing those down is great. This looks great.

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You know, not to get super cheesy, but basically the more grateful you are, the less stress are. You cannot be grateful and stressed at the same time. You cannot not be grateful and afraid at the same time. You cannot be grateful and angry at the same time. So if you just wanna not be any of those bad things, just focus on being grateful rather than not being whatever. It's like when you tell somebody relax when they're really pissed off, guess what? They don't really relax very well. So you're telling somebody to not be angry or not be stressed doesn't work, but telling, but getting somebody to shift their focus

You know, not to get super cheesy, but basically the more grateful you are, the less stress are. You cannot be grateful and stressed at the same time. You cannot not be grateful and afraid at the same time. You cannot be grateful and angry at the same time. So if you just wanna not be any of those bad things, just focus on being grateful rather than not being whatever. It's like when you tell somebody relax when they're really pissed off, guess what? They don't really relax very well. So you're telling somebody to not be angry or not be stressed doesn't work, but telling, but getting somebody to shift their focus

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to being grateful works actually really well. What questions does it ask? Just as what three what three things happen today that you're grateful for? And it's today. It's things that happen today, not like, what are three things in your life that you're grateful for? And you just sort of monotonous

to being grateful works actually really well. What questions does it ask? Just as what three what three things happen today that you're grateful for? And it's today. It's things that happen today, not like, what are three things in your life that you're grateful for? And you just sort of monotonous

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you say, my health, my family, and my friends. It's like, no. What happened today that I'm grateful for? What's a moment of today? It's then it forces you to slow down time because you're, like, What did I even eat for lunch today? What did I do today? And he's and then you're, like, you think of one thing and you're, like, god, there must have been something more than that that I'm grateful for. You kinda suck at it the first day. They suck out at the second day. By the third day, something happens during the day and you're like, ah, I'm gonna write this in the app tonight.

you say, my health, my family, and my friends. It's like, no. What happened today that I'm grateful for? What's a moment of today? It's then it forces you to slow down time because you're, like, What did I even eat for lunch today? What did I do today? And he's and then you're, like, you think of one thing and you're, like, god, there must have been something more than that that I'm grateful for. You kinda suck at it the first day. They suck out at the second day. By the third day, something happens during the day and you're like, ah, I'm gonna write this in the app tonight.

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Like, that's the thing. And so it forces you during the day to actually take note of what you're grateful for, which makes you a more grateful person. Alright. So,

Like, that's the thing. And so it forces you during the day to actually take note of what you're grateful for, which makes you a more grateful person. Alright. So,

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let me just tell you something really quick. So Andrew Hebermann, one of the things on my list Andrew Huberman recently had a new video come out come out called the science of gratitude and how to build a gratitude practice. Andrew Huberman was on our podcast. He's got this amazing podcast and YouTube channel where he talks about the science behind different things and how you can use it to help you. And his latest thing is on gratitude and he says that he's been doing gratitude. And

let me just tell you something really quick. So Andrew Hebermann, one of the things on my list Andrew Huberman recently had a new video come out come out called the science of gratitude and how to build a gratitude practice. Andrew Huberman was on our podcast. He's got this amazing podcast and YouTube channel where he talks about the science behind different things and how you can use it to help you. And his latest thing is on gratitude and he says that he's been doing gratitude. And

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I don't wanna get into the science, but basically there's something about like the prefrontal cortex and how gratitude actually releases dopamine and it's proven to make you more motivated and happy. And he said a lot of people including him did exactly what you did and he goes I think that's works but we have loads of studies that show that the actually slightly more effective way is to do one of two things and I believe those it is

I don't wanna get into the science, but basically there's something about like the prefrontal cortex and how gratitude actually releases dopamine and it's proven to make you more motivated and happy. And he said a lot of people including him did exactly what you did and he goes I think that's works but we have loads of studies that show that the actually slightly more effective way is to do one of two things and I believe those it is

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You try

You try

08:59

so the most effective thing is that you you read or you remember you you read something that someone has written to you. And so someone's expressing gratitude to you. Of course, that's not entirely practical. Right? And so there's a a a few things that you can do. The first thing is that you can

so the most effective thing is that you you read or you remember you you read something that someone has written to you. And so someone's expressing gratitude to you. Of course, that's not entirely practical. Right? And so there's a a a few things that you can do. The first thing is that you can

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think of a story when someone was helpful to you and if you if you focus hard enough, it actually

think of a story when someone was helpful to you and if you if you focus hard enough, it actually

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feels real. Yep. And second thing that that that I do, me and my wife is every couple of days. We have a set time that we sit down and we say, here's what I'm thankful. I'm thankful that that you did this. And then the second thing that you can do is you can actually think of a story in which to keep my wife just do the opposite. We just say everything we hate about each other every two days. And, and then That sounds good. Then we get, get it off our chest. She loves she's really good at the game. I'm getting better.

feels real. Yep. And second thing that that that I do, me and my wife is every couple of days. We have a set time that we sit down and we say, here's what I'm thankful. I'm thankful that that you did this. And then the second thing that you can do is you can actually think of a story in which to keep my wife just do the opposite. We just say everything we hate about each other every two days. And, and then That sounds good. Then we get, get it off our chest. She loves she's really good at the game. I'm getting better.

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It's just, it's a good thing. It's called the hateful eight. Just eight minutes. I'm just like hating on each other.

It's just, it's a good thing. It's called the hateful eight. Just eight minutes. I'm just like hating on each other.

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And, the second thing that you could do is you can think of a story of of someone being helpful to another person. And they put these guys, I believe in a MRI and they scan their brain and they watched a movie or a story about Holocaust survivors being helped and surviving and it, like, changed something in their brain. And it was proven to make them more motivated and happier. Why is that the most convincing thing ever? Everything that they're like, they did a F MRI study. They scan people while they watch this.

And, the second thing that you could do is you can think of a story of of someone being helpful to another person. And they put these guys, I believe in a MRI and they scan their brain and they watched a movie or a story about Holocaust survivors being helped and surviving and it, like, changed something in their brain. And it was proven to make them more motivated and happier. Why is that the most convincing thing ever? Everything that they're like, they did a F MRI study. They scan people while they watch this.

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The brain lights up like a Christmas tree. It's like the most, like, that's the most. I'm just gonna make that up whenever I wanna be more convincing with my thing. I'm like, yeah, People who buy my my power riding course,

The brain lights up like a Christmas tree. It's like the most, like, that's the most. I'm just gonna make that up whenever I wanna be more convincing with my thing. I'm like, yeah, People who buy my my power riding course,

10:29

we've done brain scans. It shows that actually there are there you know how there's a part of your brain that you can't access with discourse, you actually access it. The the scans, they speak for themselves. I did a transcendental meditation thing and, it's like a a style of meditation and they, like, I went to the seminar and they're like, it's proven with brainstands to be different than mindfulness.

we've done brain scans. It shows that actually there are there you know how there's a part of your brain that you can't access with discourse, you actually access it. The the scans, they speak for themselves. I did a transcendental meditation thing and, it's like a a style of meditation and they, like, I went to the seminar and they're like, it's proven with brainstands to be different than mindfulness.

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And I was like,

And I was like,

10:49

really? I mean, like, you're both you're you're they're kind of the same thing. You're being quiet And just, like,

really? I mean, like, you're both you're you're they're kind of the same thing. You're being quiet And just, like,

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like, I don't understand how but anyway, that's what they said. So, anyway, go ahead. Your second thing. Well, one more on that. Great. April this thing, there's one other technique that I it's less convenient. When you do it, it's awesome. It's called flooding. Have you ever heard of this? No. Alright. Flooding is when you basically you to create a flood of memories of, like, great moments in your life. The easiest way to do it is you open up a photo album

like, I don't understand how but anyway, that's what they said. So, anyway, go ahead. Your second thing. Well, one more on that. Great. April this thing, there's one other technique that I it's less convenient. When you do it, it's awesome. It's called flooding. Have you ever heard of this? No. Alright. Flooding is when you basically you to create a flood of memories of, like, great moments in your life. The easiest way to do it is you open up a photo album

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and you flip through it, or you go through your camera roll, if like me and my wife, we get together, we'll we'll have our camera roll open. It will just be showing each other photos from, you know, three years ago. Remember that trip. Remember that day. Remember this thing we did laughing about it, what happened that day. And just if you just do that for even ten minutes, you just revisit those photos. I'm not a big photo guy. I actually hate taking photos in the moment. I find it to be incredibly,

and you flip through it, or you go through your camera roll, if like me and my wife, we get together, we'll we'll have our camera roll open. It will just be showing each other photos from, you know, three years ago. Remember that trip. Remember that day. Remember this thing we did laughing about it, what happened that day. And just if you just do that for even ten minutes, you just revisit those photos. I'm not a big photo guy. I actually hate taking photos in the moment. I find it to be incredibly,

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like, off putting. And my wife's, like, the opposite. She loves taking photos of everything, but I gotta admit, this flooding shit is amazing. It works I literally love her more after we do it because I remember all these amazing times I've had with her, and I don't have to try. I just, like, look at the photo and it's there. It's better than better than my imagination.

like, off putting. And my wife's, like, the opposite. She loves taking photos of everything, but I gotta admit, this flooding shit is amazing. It works I literally love her more after we do it because I remember all these amazing times I've had with her, and I don't have to try. I just, like, look at the photo and it's there. It's better than better than my imagination.

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So that's what you're gonna have to do today in order to get over your heartache, your money loss. I know. I know. We'll have to figure it out. One more app. One more app. So the other app is called Other Ship.

So that's what you're gonna have to do today in order to get over your heartache, your money loss. I know. I know. We'll have to figure it out. One more app. One more app. So the other app is called Other Ship.

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So this is this just came out. I invested in this thing because I I'm a believer in I struggled with meditation. Meditation was very hard for me. So even though I was friends with the founders of calm,

So this is this just came out. I invested in this thing because I I'm a believer in I struggled with meditation. Meditation was very hard for me. So even though I was friends with the founders of calm,

12:16

and they gave me a free account or whatever,

and they gave me a free account or whatever,

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never released it. Couldn't couldn't get myself to enjoy doing it. And I'm the type where if I don't enjoy it, it's just very hard for me to stick with anything. I don't enjoy. Have enough willpower or don't want enough willpower. I don't know what it is, but I'm not great at it. So I wanted the benefits of meditation, but I didn't enjoy doing it.

never released it. Couldn't couldn't get myself to enjoy doing it. And I'm the type where if I don't enjoy it, it's just very hard for me to stick with anything. I don't enjoy. Have enough willpower or don't want enough willpower. I don't know what it is, but I'm not great at it. So I wanted the benefits of meditation, but I didn't enjoy doing it.

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Breath work has become like a revelation to me. It's a form of meditation.

Breath work has become like a revelation to me. It's a form of meditation.

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It's very similar

It's very similar

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But focusing on breath at a guided breath work session. So I've tried Wim Hof, loved it. Wim Hof has a great app too. It's a free app. And other ship is like a souped up version of Wim Hof.

But focusing on breath at a guided breath work session. So I've tried Wim Hof, loved it. Wim Hof has a great app too. It's a free app. And other ship is like a souped up version of Wim Hof.

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And,

And,

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this guy Robbie created it. He's amazing at it. He guides a lot of meditations himself

this guy Robbie created it. He's amazing at it. He guides a lot of meditations himself

13:00

He built his own, like, home Oasis in his he was, like, really early at Ethereum.

He built his own, like, home Oasis in his he was, like, really early at Ethereum.

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He, like, he was the first marketing guy at the Ethereum Foundation. It was, like, whatever,

He, like, he was the first marketing guy at the Ethereum Foundation. It was, like, whatever,

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you know, sixty cents or something. So it's just like mega rich. So he got, like, you know, even with barely putting any money in, he got, like, kinda loaded And then he sold some of it and was like, okay, I'm gonna turn, like, half of my I'm gonna make this huge, like, kind of cabin out the garage type thing, like a mega garage,

you know, sixty cents or something. So it's just like mega rich. So he got, like, you know, even with barely putting any money in, he got, like, kinda loaded And then he sold some of it and was like, okay, I'm gonna turn, like, half of my I'm gonna make this huge, like, kind of cabin out the garage type thing, like a mega garage,

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it turned it into, like, this, like, twenty person sauna, plus cold plunge, plus, like, amazing meditation room, plus green house, and all this other shit. You went to it. No. He's invited me. It's in Canada. I haven't gone yet, but,

it turned it into, like, this, like, twenty person sauna, plus cold plunge, plus, like, amazing meditation room, plus green house, and all this other shit. You went to it. No. He's invited me. It's in Canada. I haven't gone yet, but,

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it's amazing. He hosts a lot of people there. He invited us, actually. So you're welcome to go anytime.

it's amazing. He hosts a lot of people there. He invited us, actually. So you're welcome to go anytime.

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And,

And,

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they do, like, guided, whatever, like, micro dosing LSD if you wanna do that or whatever. No. You can do you can do any of the you can do anything in this place. Long story short, he got really into breath work along this journey.

they do, like, guided, whatever, like, micro dosing LSD if you wanna do that or whatever. No. You can do you can do any of the you can do anything in this place. Long story short, he got really into breath work along this journey.

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And now this is what he does. He's like, I'm gonna I created this app. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring Breathher to the masses, and I do it every morning, and it's amazing. So that's my, other ship is the name of the app. Alright. I dig that. Alright. I'll I'll tell you one. Alright. So there's this

And now this is what he does. He's like, I'm gonna I created this app. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring Breathher to the masses, and I do it every morning, and it's amazing. So that's my, other ship is the name of the app. Alright. I dig that. Alright. I'll I'll tell you one. Alright. So there's this

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subreddit that I go to and I love it. It's called

subreddit that I go to and I love it. It's called

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fat fire. And the idea is people who wanna retire relatively young with a lot of money so they can live a fat life without working.

fat fire. And the idea is people who wanna retire relatively young with a lot of money so they can live a fat life without working.

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And there's this guy. And so basically, if you post on there a lot, the mods, the community leaders of the subreddit will verify your net worth to make you're sure you're not full of shit. By the way, did you have a goal like this? Like, I wanna retire by x age or I wanna be like Yeah. This wealthy by this age? What what was your, like, how did you phrase your goal?

And there's this guy. And so basically, if you post on there a lot, the mods, the community leaders of the subreddit will verify your net worth to make you're sure you're not full of shit. By the way, did you have a goal like this? Like, I wanna retire by x age or I wanna be like Yeah. This wealthy by this age? What what was your, like, how did you phrase your goal?

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I I wanted to have twenty million dollars by age thirty.

I I wanted to have twenty million dollars by age thirty.

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Gotcha. Alright. That's what I wanted. That was my goal. I created that goal when I was in my, when I was, like, nineteen or twenty years old.

Gotcha. Alright. That's what I wanted. That was my goal. I created that goal when I was in my, when I was, like, nineteen or twenty years old.

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I mean, I can't confirm or deny, but, you know, mission accomplished is what I would say. I I sold my couple. I I achieved it at thirty one. I sold my company at thirty one.

I mean, I can't confirm or deny, but, you know, mission accomplished is what I would say. I I sold my couple. I I achieved it at thirty one. I sold my company at thirty one.

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And so my that was my goal because I asked a a rich person who I knew. I asked him how much money do you spend a month, and they told me sixty thousand dollars a month.

And so my that was my goal because I asked a a rich person who I knew. I asked him how much money do you spend a month, and they told me sixty thousand dollars a month.

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And at the time, I was like, I don't know, like, I can't imagine there's a world around the world. Yeah. I'm like, that just sounds crazy, but whatever. Like, I asked like eight people and this person had the highest number. And I was like, okay, I'll just do that because I'll be conservative. And then if you withdraw only three percent of your twenty million, that gives you like six thousand dollars, a year to spend there. That that's that number. So this fire philosophy and fire stands for financially independent retire early.

And at the time, I was like, I don't know, like, I can't imagine there's a world around the world. Yeah. I'm like, that just sounds crazy, but whatever. Like, I asked like eight people and this person had the highest number. And I was like, okay, I'll just do that because I'll be conservative. And then if you withdraw only three percent of your twenty million, that gives you like six thousand dollars, a year to spend there. That that's that number. So this fire philosophy and fire stands for financially independent retire early.

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Yes. So you can you can you can spend a percentage of your port of your liquid portfolio

Yes. So you can you can you can spend a percentage of your port of your liquid portfolio

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and basically it continues to grow. Have enough money

and basically it continues to grow. Have enough money

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that the

that the

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earnings, the the the the sort of compounding earnings on the money being invested in something safe like the stock market SEP five hundred type of thing can,

earnings, the the the the sort of compounding earnings on the money being invested in something safe like the stock market SEP five hundred type of thing can,

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can cover your burn rate. So there's two things that matter. What is the what is the amount I have invested and what is my life burn rate? That's why a lot of people who like fire, they go move to, like, you know, bum fuck, you know, middle of nowhere, and they they're like, oh, yeah. I got rid of my car, and it's great. Now I can, you know, I got rid of everything I own. And me and my wife, we all need apple cores, and now we are retired. It's like, but fat fire is different. Fat fire is like, No. I kinda wanna ball out. I'm not trying to, like, skimp on my lifestyle.

can cover your burn rate. So there's two things that matter. What is the what is the amount I have invested and what is my life burn rate? That's why a lot of people who like fire, they go move to, like, you know, bum fuck, you know, middle of nowhere, and they they're like, oh, yeah. I got rid of my car, and it's great. Now I can, you know, I got rid of everything I own. And me and my wife, we all need apple cores, and now we are retired. It's like, but fat fire is different. Fat fire is like, No. I kinda wanna ball out. I'm not trying to, like, skimp on my lifestyle.

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So, okay, what do I need to achieve and what do I need to optimize while still not giving up

So, okay, what do I need to achieve and what do I need to optimize while still not giving up

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like, what I find to be enjoyable in terms of lifestyle.

like, what I find to be enjoyable in terms of lifestyle.

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Yeah. So that's how I made up that number. And I don't even I spend fifteen thousand dollars a month. So I don't spend even close to that. But I I saw this thing yesterday,

Yeah. So that's how I made up that number. And I don't even I spend fifteen thousand dollars a month. So I don't spend even close to that. But I I saw this thing yesterday,

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which is somebody was saying they posted, like, my company. Here's what my company's revenues were for I think his name's Chris Cantino.

which is somebody was saying they posted, like, my company. Here's what my company's revenues were for I think his name's Chris Cantino.

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It was like Oh. Company's revenues for the first seven years. And it was like, you know, zero thousand

It was like Oh. Company's revenues for the first seven years. And it was like, you know, zero thousand

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twenty thousand, fifty thousand, hundred fifty thousand, three hundred fifty thousand, seven million, twenty one million, or something like that. Right? I I'm making it up, but it's some slow build, and then suddenly

twenty thousand, fifty thousand, hundred fifty thousand, three hundred fifty thousand, seven million, twenty one million, or something like that. Right? I I'm making it up, but it's some slow build, and then suddenly

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things really take off. And I think they sold their company. It was a soap company, I think,

things really take off. And I think they sold their company. It was a soap company, I think,

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for a hundred million dollars. I think I have that right. Is that correct? You know this guy? No. I know who you're talking about though. He tweets great stuff. You said his name. Right? Yeah. So okay. So so he tweeted that, and I certainly got me thinking. I was like,

for a hundred million dollars. I think I have that right. Is that correct? You know this guy? No. I know who you're talking about though. He tweets great stuff. You said his name. Right? Yeah. So okay. So so he tweeted that, and I certainly got me thinking. I was like,

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It it's true. A lot of success. I would say the common,

It it's true. A lot of success. I would say the common,

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you know, when success comes through the front door, this is how it arrives slowly and then suddenly.

you know, when success comes through the front door, this is how it arrives slowly and then suddenly.

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When it rains it pours for sure. And when it rains it pours, and I started thinking, okay. Is that true in my life? And I started writing down. I wrote down how much money I made from the age twenty to the age thirty one because I also got wealthy basically at thirty one. And,

When it rains it pours for sure. And when it rains it pours, and I started thinking, okay. Is that true in my life? And I started writing down. I wrote down how much money I made from the age twenty to the age thirty one because I also got wealthy basically at thirty one. And,

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and it was like, you know, zero thousand dollars then negative thirty thousand dollars with that first startup. Then I I got a job and the job paid me a hundred twenty thousand dollars. I thought I was doing great. That was hundred twenty, hundred twenty, hundred and then went to one sixty and then it, like, stayed there for a bit. And then I totaled it. And I said, wow. At age thirty one,

and it was like, you know, zero thousand dollars then negative thirty thousand dollars with that first startup. Then I I got a job and the job paid me a hundred twenty thousand dollars. I thought I was doing great. That was hundred twenty, hundred twenty, hundred and then went to one sixty and then it, like, stayed there for a bit. And then I totaled it. And I said, wow. At age thirty one,

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I made more than the previous eleven years before that combined.

I made more than the previous eleven years before that combined.

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And I was like, you know, and I this was my advice to young people always is If you're gonna take a non traditional path like entrepreneurship or betting on yourself rather than a corporate career track, corporate

And I was like, you know, and I this was my advice to young people always is If you're gonna take a non traditional path like entrepreneurship or betting on yourself rather than a corporate career track, corporate

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a career track, you should be increasing, you know, every two years by a certain fixed percent, and you're great. That's your lifestyle.

a career track, you should be increasing, you know, every two years by a certain fixed percent, and you're great. That's your lifestyle.

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If you take the nontraditional path, you go try to be a content creator or entrepreneur or something else.

If you take the nontraditional path, you go try to be a content creator or entrepreneur or something else.

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It's gonna be this slowly than suddenly path. And don't if you're twenty two, don't count your earnings at twenty two or twenty three or twenty four. You're gonna check the scoreboard at age thirty. It was my my motto, my Or or regardless of thirty or not after, like, eight or nine years. And you give it give it a decade. And you what you need to is total it up in ten years. How did I do versus counting every year? Because you're gonna lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, win big. And, that's off that's often the path. So I was curious for you if you did that. Is your path similar or if you charted it out for twenties to thirties? I don't know if you wanna share the exact or whatever, but like Yeah. I can share some. I mean, when I sold, I had saved a,

It's gonna be this slowly than suddenly path. And don't if you're twenty two, don't count your earnings at twenty two or twenty three or twenty four. You're gonna check the scoreboard at age thirty. It was my my motto, my Or or regardless of thirty or not after, like, eight or nine years. And you give it give it a decade. And you what you need to is total it up in ten years. How did I do versus counting every year? Because you're gonna lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, win big. And, that's off that's often the path. So I was curious for you if you did that. Is your path similar or if you charted it out for twenties to thirties? I don't know if you wanna share the exact or whatever, but like Yeah. I can share some. I mean, when I sold, I had saved a,

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like, seven figures. Of course, that includes my wife and I. And she also,

like, seven figures. Of course, that includes my wife and I. And she also,

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worked at Airbnb and so Airbnb went public and she had worked there for a long time. Airbnb went public in December. I sold my company in February. So it was, like,

worked at Airbnb and so Airbnb went public and she had worked there for a long time. Airbnb went public in December. I sold my company in February. So it was, like,

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December first and then, like, February first, it was, like, that those two or three months was, like, massive. Right. And so, but prior to that So they ignore that. Take her out. We don't wanna put her business out there. So let's just talk about you.

December first and then, like, February first, it was, like, that those two or three months was, like, massive. Right. And so, but prior to that So they ignore that. Take her out. We don't wanna put her business out there. So let's just talk about you.

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You in your early twenties, what were you making?

You in your early twenties, what were you making?

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So,

So,

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from age twenty two to probably twenty six and twenty seven. I paid myself something like

from age twenty two to probably twenty six and twenty seven. I paid myself something like

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two grand a month So in the brain so the first year of business, I probably paid myself twenty thousand dollars for the first year, and then I paid myself forty thousand dollars for the next two years.

two grand a month So in the brain so the first year of business, I probably paid myself twenty thousand dollars for the first year, and then I paid myself forty thousand dollars for the next two years.

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And then,

And then,

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seventy thousand dollars. And then the last year That was twenty four k a year and then forty k a year. And then you said seventy k roughly.

seventy thousand dollars. And then the last year That was twenty four k a year and then forty k a year. And then you said seventy k roughly.

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No. It was like twenty forty forty seventy. Yeah. So that's four years in. And then the year we sold, I'd paid myself close to three hundred thousand dollars. Right.

No. It was like twenty forty forty seventy. Yeah. So that's four years in. And then the year we sold, I'd paid myself close to three hundred thousand dollars. Right.

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And I had a few other investments, like some angel investments and,

And I had a few other investments, like some angel investments and,

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like, some weird things that kinda paid off. But basically, like, for the longest time, I mean, I was living I the way I rigged it was in San Francisco, my rent was only four hundred dollars because I rented out this big place. And I only had twenty five grand in my name, and I spent all of it to rent out and furnish this place. And then I rented it out to people who basically subsidized it for me. So I was living like a poor person. And, so I was able to save a little bit of money. Living like a like a wealthy person, really. You were living in a place, and it was only costing four hundred dollars a month. Which is great example, by the way, because there's a lot of people that will be like,

like, some weird things that kinda paid off. But basically, like, for the longest time, I mean, I was living I the way I rigged it was in San Francisco, my rent was only four hundred dollars because I rented out this big place. And I only had twenty five grand in my name, and I spent all of it to rent out and furnish this place. And then I rented it out to people who basically subsidized it for me. So I was living like a poor person. And, so I was able to save a little bit of money. Living like a like a wealthy person, really. You were living in a place, and it was only costing four hundred dollars a month. Which is great example, by the way, because there's a lot of people that will be like,

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why don't we just have Cisco, but I can't afford it.

why don't we just have Cisco, but I can't afford it.

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All you're saying to me is

All you're saying to me is

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I lack creativity and resourcefulness because what you did is available to everybody. Go find a place

I lack creativity and resourcefulness because what you did is available to everybody. Go find a place

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that's at market or slightly below market price.

that's at market or slightly below market price.

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And what you did, I think, is you cut a deal with a landlord. You were like, I'll never call you for anything. Yeah. I totally it breaks.

And what you did, I think, is you cut a deal with a landlord. You were like, I'll never call you for anything. Yeah. I totally it breaks.

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I'll fix you. I think you lived there for, like, a decade or some shit and you'd never like, set, like, seven years. Yeah. Seven years. To the person. Yeah. I never saw him. I had I not one set if I ever seen him absent. He showed him at the house. He wouldn't know who that guy is. I would not. I don't even remember what he looks like. I couldn't even tell you what he looks like. I think his name was Chris. And so you cut this deal and you're like, look, I'm you basically became the landlord. Well, I showed I showed up and I was twenty two and it was a four thousand dollar or five I forget how much was it? Forty five hundred dollars a month for a four bedroom house. And he goes, is it just you? I go,

I'll fix you. I think you lived there for, like, a decade or some shit and you'd never like, set, like, seven years. Yeah. Seven years. To the person. Yeah. I never saw him. I had I not one set if I ever seen him absent. He showed him at the house. He wouldn't know who that guy is. I would not. I don't even remember what he looks like. I couldn't even tell you what he looks like. I think his name was Chris. And so you cut this deal and you're like, look, I'm you basically became the landlord. Well, I showed I showed up and I was twenty two and it was a four thousand dollar or five I forget how much was it? Forty five hundred dollars a month for a four bedroom house. And he goes, is it just you? I go,

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Look, it's just me right now, but I'm gonna get, like, some friends to move in.

Look, it's just me right now, but I'm gonna get, like, some friends to move in.

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I'll, like, sign a lease, a sublease with them, and I, and I can have you approve it Right. But basically, like, I'm gonna pay you on time all the time. And my the preferred relationship you and I have is I never see you again. And are you okay with that? And he goes, yeah. He goes, don't don't be late. And I go, okay, deal. And we are never late. I never one time I I I'm an idiot. One time I shot a bb gun into the toilet and it broke the toilet. And so we just went to Home Depot and, like, bought a toilet and just replaced it. You know what I mean? So we would do stuff like that all the time. If somebody said, hey, which of your friends shot a bb gun into the toilet? I feel like, I'm like, oh, you know Sam? Sounds great. He's a great guy.

I'll, like, sign a lease, a sublease with them, and I, and I can have you approve it Right. But basically, like, I'm gonna pay you on time all the time. And my the preferred relationship you and I have is I never see you again. And are you okay with that? And he goes, yeah. He goes, don't don't be late. And I go, okay, deal. And we are never late. I never one time I I I'm an idiot. One time I shot a bb gun into the toilet and it broke the toilet. And so we just went to Home Depot and, like, bought a toilet and just replaced it. You know what I mean? So we would do stuff like that all the time. If somebody said, hey, which of your friends shot a bb gun into the toilet? I feel like, I'm like, oh, you know Sam? Sounds great. He's a great guy.

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I bought we bought like an air soft gun or something. We're like, let's see how strong this is. I mean, because we wanted to shoot it in the house because it went through the couch.

I bought we bought like an air soft gun or something. We're like, let's see how strong this is. I mean, because we wanted to shoot it in the house because it went through the couch.

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Anyway.

Anyway.

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Anyway, it yeah. And so at this point, yeah. So it it was a slow build. It took like five, six, seven years. But then What's crazy is I'm thirty two now. I started hustling at age twenty

Anyway, it yeah. And so at this point, yeah. So it it was a slow build. It took like five, six, seven years. But then What's crazy is I'm thirty two now. I started hustling at age twenty

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probably twenty, like making like real money on my own, like livable money. And

probably twenty, like making like real money on my own, like livable money. And

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at this point, at h thirty two, I'll make more this year from a couple, like, side investments, like a real estate deal that I did I'll make more this year than collectively all of my salaries combined while working at the hustle. Exactly. And that's that's the exact same same case for me, and I think that's actually really common. And I think the reason I bring that up is because it's interesting to me.

at this point, at h thirty two, I'll make more this year from a couple, like, side investments, like a real estate deal that I did I'll make more this year than collectively all of my salaries combined while working at the hustle. Exactly. And that's that's the exact same same case for me, and I think that's actually really common. And I think the reason I bring that up is because it's interesting to me.

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I think that's really comforting to people because when you're in it and you're not making any money, and it looks like other people are all making hell of money, it feels it could feel very bad. And you can question if you're on the right path or not. And this doesn't mean you're definitely on the right path, but it means

I think that's really comforting to people because when you're in it and you're not making any money, and it looks like other people are all making hell of money, it feels it could feel very bad. And you can question if you're on the right path or not. And this doesn't mean you're definitely on the right path, but it means

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when this path of entrepreneurship works,

when this path of entrepreneurship works,

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that's commonly what it looks like. So don't be surprised.

that's commonly what it looks like. So don't be surprised.

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Alright. So let's get back to, you know, which by the way, when I was getting going, I was always so envious

Alright. So let's get back to, you know, which by the way, when I was getting going, I was always so envious

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of

of

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other people. Like, my friends, I'm like, fuck, you gotta jump at Google. You make a hundred and fifty grand a year and you have all benefits. I haven't been to the doctor forever. This is awesome. I'm so jealous.

other people. Like, my friends, I'm like, fuck, you gotta jump at Google. You make a hundred and fifty grand a year and you have all benefits. I haven't been to the doctor forever. This is awesome. I'm so jealous.

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So you'd come to you'd come to my office and you'd be like, dude, this is your office. I'm like, yeah, then you would be eating something. You'd be like, is this cheese just always available? Who's cheese is this?

So you'd come to you'd come to my office and you'd be like, dude, this is your office. I'm like, yeah, then you would be eating something. You'd be like, is this cheese just always available? Who's cheese is this?

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They just bring this cheese? I felt like I would bring you'd be like, look, this cheese from whole foods. This is expensive cheese. I'm like, bro, stop talking about the cheese right now,

They just bring this cheese? I felt like I would bring you'd be like, look, this cheese from whole foods. This is expensive cheese. I'm like, bro, stop talking about the cheese right now,

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but it was, like, I remember you were noticing

but it was, like, I remember you were noticing

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all those things in a funny way. I was like, do you guys have an espresso machine?

all those things in a funny way. I was like, do you guys have an espresso machine?

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You guys got a woman's bathroom?

You guys got a woman's bathroom?

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What the hell is it? A special machine. Yeah. I remember I was like, freaking out that you had an expression, like, espresso machine. I was like, what the hell is this? And I I remember, like, I used to take food to go.

What the hell is it? A special machine. Yeah. I remember I was like, freaking out that you had an expression, like, espresso machine. I was like, what the hell is this? And I I remember, like, I used to take food to go.

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So anyway,

So anyway,

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Yeah. It it accumulated quickly.

Yeah. It it accumulated quickly.

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And I think it for most people, it's I mean, it like, I think that it's basically, it's like, you're poor, you're poor, you're poor, and then it's suddenly is like, oh, holy crap. I'm not anymore. And, you know, you you have that moment. And there's this subreddit called Fatfire, and they talk a lot about that. And there's this guy who has a series of threads called confessions of a hecto millionaire

And I think it for most people, it's I mean, it like, I think that it's basically, it's like, you're poor, you're poor, you're poor, and then it's suddenly is like, oh, holy crap. I'm not anymore. And, you know, you you have that moment. And there's this subreddit called Fatfire, and they talk a lot about that. And there's this guy who has a series of threads called confessions of a hecto millionaire

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and he's doing like eight parts and I linked to it in there. I see part five here. Yeah. And the mods have basically,

and he's doing like eight parts and I linked to it in there. I see part five here. Yeah. And the mods have basically,

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approved it. So, basically, the mods have, like, this guy, DM Tim,

approved it. So, basically, the mods have, like, this guy, DM Tim,

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diemed his accountants

diemed his accountants

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or account information or something. So they like verified that he's, as wealthy as he is. But basically in the beginning

or account information or something. So they like verified that he's, as wealthy as he is. But basically in the beginning

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thread. He says,

thread. He says,

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you know, I'm worth north of a hundred million dollars. I got wealthy originally because I was an employee at a tech company that me thirty million dollars and that was like fifteen years ago and then I invested in this and then I did this and then I did this and I'm gonna answer a lot of the questions that I think a lot of people ask here and the mods have approved that I am who I am, and I'm gonna tell you all about work and purpose, my time and routine, why I keep a low profile, how relationships

you know, I'm worth north of a hundred million dollars. I got wealthy originally because I was an employee at a tech company that me thirty million dollars and that was like fifteen years ago and then I invested in this and then I did this and then I did this and I'm gonna answer a lot of the questions that I think a lot of people ask here and the mods have approved that I am who I am, and I'm gonna tell you all about work and purpose, my time and routine, why I keep a low profile, how relationships

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are complicated.

are complicated.

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What do I spend on a monthly basis?

What do I spend on a monthly basis?

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What my investment in portfolio management is and it's incredibly fascinating. I love this stuff where you get behind the scenes of people who you normally never have access to. And so it's a great series. It's a great thread.

What my investment in portfolio management is and it's incredibly fascinating. I love this stuff where you get behind the scenes of people who you normally never have access to. And so it's a great series. It's a great thread.

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It's awesome.

It's awesome.

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Awesome. I love it. Great find. Okay. Let's do some more. So,

Awesome. I love it. Great find. Okay. Let's do some more. So,

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what do I wanna do? Okay. Let me do

what do I wanna do? Okay. Let me do

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You want me to do you want me to do a quick one while you think? Yeah. Do a do a quick one. Okay. And I can keep Brad on. So you just let me know. So Alright. This is a little black hat here, but I'm gonna tell you. So there's this company called I think it's made by the same company. It's called web archive. It's the greatest thing ever. I love web archive, and they have got this side project called archive today. So archive dot today. Have you ever seen this? Yes. I have seen this. It is awesome. So if you ever wanna read so there's a bunch of products out there on how to read articles that are paywalled or some type of like thing that you can't see them.

You want me to do you want me to do a quick one while you think? Yeah. Do a do a quick one. Okay. And I can keep Brad on. So you just let me know. So Alright. This is a little black hat here, but I'm gonna tell you. So there's this company called I think it's made by the same company. It's called web archive. It's the greatest thing ever. I love web archive, and they have got this side project called archive today. So archive dot today. Have you ever seen this? Yes. I have seen this. It is awesome. So if you ever wanna read so there's a bunch of products out there on how to read articles that are paywalled or some type of like thing that you can't see them.

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So there's outline dot com, which is kinda cool. There's this other one that's called

So there's outline dot com, which is kinda cool. There's this other one that's called

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twelve foot, and and it's called twelve foot ladder. And so it basically says show me a ten Go over the payroll. Yeah. So listen to the tagline. Show me a ten foot paywall. I'll show you a twelve foot ladder.

twelve foot, and and it's called twelve foot ladder. And so it basically says show me a ten Go over the payroll. Yeah. So listen to the tagline. Show me a ten foot paywall. I'll show you a twelve foot ladder.

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Brilliant. Right? Genius.

Brilliant. Right? Genius.

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Brilliant. And it it doesn't work all the time. It doesn't work very well. That's the problem with twelve foot. Yes. I mean, just fine. Yeah. Archives today works. I've never used it and it not work. And so if you ever wanna read something and you don't feel like, like, you just wanna read, like, article and not all, like, pay for it. Archiveive today is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

Brilliant. And it it doesn't work all the time. It doesn't work very well. That's the problem with twelve foot. Yes. I mean, just fine. Yeah. Archives today works. I've never used it and it not work. And so if you ever wanna read something and you don't feel like, like, you just wanna read, like, article and not all, like, pay for it. Archiveive today is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

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Yeah. And the internet archive is just like a treasure. Right? Like, it's a nonprofit thing. It's a great way to go look up what did the original version of the Airbnb website look like and go way back machine, which is something they've created. And you can type in airbnb dot com. You can go back and you could see, oh, wow. It used to be called air bed and breakfast. And it was, like, cater towards conferences because that's how they initially got their start and blah blah blah. So, you know, the internet archive, which is the the nonprofit behind it, is amazing. They actually bought our friend's company. They bought Xavier's, book company as well because they're gonna, like, scan all the books and make them available for people and things like that. So that they just It's it's amazing.

Yeah. And the internet archive is just like a treasure. Right? Like, it's a nonprofit thing. It's a great way to go look up what did the original version of the Airbnb website look like and go way back machine, which is something they've created. And you can type in airbnb dot com. You can go back and you could see, oh, wow. It used to be called air bed and breakfast. And it was, like, cater towards conferences because that's how they initially got their start and blah blah blah. So, you know, the internet archive, which is the the nonprofit behind it, is amazing. They actually bought our friend's company. They bought Xavier's, book company as well because they're gonna, like, scan all the books and make them available for people and things like that. So that they just It's it's amazing.

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They're based in inner sunset, right, where my office was. That's right. That's right.

They're based in inner sunset, right, where my office was. That's right. That's right.

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Okay. Let's do some more.

Okay. Let's do some more.

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Okay. So I basically made a pretty big, and I think

Okay. So I basically made a pretty big, and I think

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at the at the risk of us sounding,

at the at the risk of us sounding,

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like,

like,

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kinda, like, overly obsessed with fitness, which is, like, ironic because at least At least you're ripped. So, yeah, I think you could get away with being obsessive fitness. I'm not ripped yet. So it's like a little bit it's a little bit weird when I talked too much about it. Yeah. I made a big investment because And your and your improvement has been massive. I basically when I was How much did you weigh when we first started filming? Do you know? I have no idea, but I basically gained, like, forty or fifty pounds over the course of, like, my last startup.

kinda, like, overly obsessed with fitness, which is, like, ironic because at least At least you're ripped. So, yeah, I think you could get away with being obsessive fitness. I'm not ripped yet. So it's like a little bit it's a little bit weird when I talked too much about it. Yeah. I made a big investment because And your and your improvement has been massive. I basically when I was How much did you weigh when we first started filming? Do you know? I have no idea, but I basically gained, like, forty or fifty pounds over the course of, like, my last startup.

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And, like, never lost it. So, like, you think you weighed. I used to be, like, two, like, two fifty? Not two fifty. I think the most I ever wear was two twenty five. And I don't even weigh much less than that now, but it's a different weight though. It's it's yeah. It's like muscle versus fat. It's like converting. Right? So,

And, like, never lost it. So, like, you think you weighed. I used to be, like, two, like, two fifty? Not two fifty. I think the most I ever wear was two twenty five. And I don't even weigh much less than that now, but it's a different weight though. It's it's yeah. It's like muscle versus fat. It's like converting. Right? So,

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so, yeah, I basically, you know, ballooned up. I can't, you know, I used to be whatever, one seventy five or whatever, and then all of a sudden I'm two twenty five and felt really bad and, you know, it's not healthy. It doesn't look good. All this stuff. I would when I would see a photo of myself, I think that's a bad photo of myself. And after three years, I'm like, Hey, how come all the photos are just bad photos of me? Oh, wait. Maybe I'm, like, actually just, like, massively out of shape here. So I invested in basically three or four things now. That have paid off. And I'll tell you one that I don't think paid off. So,

so, yeah, I basically, you know, ballooned up. I can't, you know, I used to be whatever, one seventy five or whatever, and then all of a sudden I'm two twenty five and felt really bad and, you know, it's not healthy. It doesn't look good. All this stuff. I would when I would see a photo of myself, I think that's a bad photo of myself. And after three years, I'm like, Hey, how come all the photos are just bad photos of me? Oh, wait. Maybe I'm, like, actually just, like, massively out of shape here. So I invested in basically three or four things now. That have paid off. And I'll tell you one that I don't think paid off. So,

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so I think fitness takes a couple things. At least for me. And that's,

so I think fitness takes a couple things. At least for me. And that's,

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time. So

time. So

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I was like, okay. What are some things that I if if going to the gym, taking too much time. What's a way that I can hack that? So first of all, I built a home gym. So there's no going anywhere.

I was like, okay. What are some things that I if if going to the gym, taking too much time. What's a way that I can hack that? So first of all, I built a home gym. So there's no going anywhere.

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But even me, you could put a a a Peloton right next to me. That doesn't mean I'm gonna write it, you can put my foot in the straps. It doesn't mean I'm gonna push. Like,

But even me, you could put a a a Peloton right next to me. That doesn't mean I'm gonna write it, you can put my foot in the straps. It doesn't mean I'm gonna push. Like,

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there was many reasons for many years that I didn't exercise regularly.

there was many reasons for many years that I didn't exercise regularly.

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And so one was just bringing the gym home, then I got a trainer because I said, well, if some dude shows up, I'm not just gonna ignore him. Like, I'm clearly gonna, like, do the workout. I think that's the biggest thing that made a difference. I, like, I I have a friend who is,

And so one was just bringing the gym home, then I got a trainer because I said, well, if some dude shows up, I'm not just gonna ignore him. Like, I'm clearly gonna, like, do the workout. I think that's the biggest thing that made a difference. I, like, I I have a friend who is,

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who who is a wealthy guy, and he was like, hey, can you tell me what to do? And I'm like, No, man. Get a coach for like two hundred fifty bucks a month, and they'll and they'll tell you what to do, and you don't think. You just do what they say. And he was like, that's really expensive. I'm like, dog, you live in a four million dollar house. Like,

who who is a wealthy guy, and he was like, hey, can you tell me what to do? And I'm like, No, man. Get a coach for like two hundred fifty bucks a month, and they'll and they'll tell you what to do, and you don't think. You just do what they say. And he was like, that's really expensive. I'm like, dog, you live in a four million dollar house. Like,

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why do you, like, your your body's your house, and you're not gonna spend three hundred dollars or something to fix it? Yeah. That's wild.

why do you, like, your your body's your house, and you're not gonna spend three hundred dollars or something to fix it? Yeah. That's wild.

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But my dad does that. My dad's like, oh,

But my dad does that. My dad's like, oh,

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you spend on this personal trainer five days a week. Like, that's crazy.

you spend on this personal trainer five days a week. Like, that's crazy.

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I have this trainer. I found in India. He just does it on zoom, and he's only four dollars an hour. I was like, four dollars an hour. He's like, yeah, he wanted six, but I got him down to four. He was so proud. And I was like, oh, that's I mean, that's amazing.

I have this trainer. I found in India. He just does it on zoom, and he's only four dollars an hour. I was like, four dollars an hour. He's like, yeah, he wanted six, but I got him down to four. He was so proud. And I was like, oh, that's I mean, that's amazing.

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Okay. I'm good. It's such an Indian thing to do. Yeah. He's really good. He's really fit. No. No. I was like, no. He's good for you. He's like, well, I, you know, I don't really do it. Like, you know, it's he's, like, it's only four bucks, so I don't even mind if I skip it. I was, like, exactly.

Okay. I'm good. It's such an Indian thing to do. Yeah. He's really good. He's really fit. No. No. I was like, no. He's good for you. He's like, well, I, you know, I don't really do it. Like, you know, it's he's, like, it's only four bucks, so I don't even mind if I skip it. I was, like, exactly.

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Like, you literally don't do it. It's not working for you. You're not exercising regularly. You're not getting in better shape. So how is it really that good? So anyways, I invested a bunch of stuff. And I took an approach, which was like,

Like, you literally don't do it. It's not working for you. You're not exercising regularly. You're not getting in better shape. So how is it really that good? So anyways, I invested a bunch of stuff. And I took an approach, which was like,

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I wanted to leave myself no outs.

I wanted to leave myself no outs.

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So I took it to, like, burn the boat strategy. So first, I talked about it publicly.

So I took it to, like, burn the boat strategy. So first, I talked about it publicly.

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And I talked about it publicly because if I talk about it publicly, I'm gonna be humiliated if, you know, I feel embarrassed if I talk about this and I don't do it. I don't back it up. Same. I I I think that I I vouch for that. I made it super convenient. So I did home gym and I brought I had a trainer come to my house. I paid the extra to to make sure that that happened.

And I talked about it publicly because if I talk about it publicly, I'm gonna be humiliated if, you know, I feel embarrassed if I talk about this and I don't do it. I don't back it up. Same. I I I think that I I vouch for that. I made it super convenient. So I did home gym and I brought I had a trainer come to my house. I paid the extra to to make sure that that happened.

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Okay. So now I'm doing the workouts. Okay. Cool. Now how do I do it where I actually enjoy it? Well, I invested in making the space nice. So, like, I went to your gym, and I was like, wow, this feels great. I need to get a floor like this, and I bought these rubber tiles, and I did all this stuff to make the gym feel better. And I, like, got Like, the sound system, I did a bunch of things to make the environment one where I would not dread going there. I would enjoy I would want to go there. And, a bunch of things like that. So those were all great investments. I felt, like, were great finds for me. It was like these little rubber tiles. And it took time and energy to research these. And I didn't outsource this. I was like, no. I need to find the best one because I want this to feel a certain way. And I I crafted that kind of vision for myself. Same thing. I just got a sauna set it up yesterday, did the first sauna session in it. And I'm like, this is amazing.

Okay. So now I'm doing the workouts. Okay. Cool. Now how do I do it where I actually enjoy it? Well, I invested in making the space nice. So, like, I went to your gym, and I was like, wow, this feels great. I need to get a floor like this, and I bought these rubber tiles, and I did all this stuff to make the gym feel better. And I, like, got Like, the sound system, I did a bunch of things to make the environment one where I would not dread going there. I would enjoy I would want to go there. And, a bunch of things like that. So those were all great investments. I felt, like, were great finds for me. It was like these little rubber tiles. And it took time and energy to research these. And I didn't outsource this. I was like, no. I need to find the best one because I want this to feel a certain way. And I I crafted that kind of vision for myself. Same thing. I just got a sauna set it up yesterday, did the first sauna session in it. And I'm like, this is amazing.

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It's sick. Right? Already, already. This is one of my great purchases of the year, and I just have had it for one day. I got this clear light, sauna, infrared sauna,

It's sick. Right? Already, already. This is one of my great purchases of the year, and I just have had it for one day. I got this clear light, sauna, infrared sauna,

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and I know that some people are like, don't do infrared and some people are like, buy this other brand instead, whatever. No. Clearlight's good. Clearlight's a great brand.

and I know that some people are like, don't do infrared and some people are like, buy this other brand instead, whatever. No. Clearlight's good. Clearlight's a great brand.

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You know, but some people are like, you should do the dry sauna, not the infrared.

You know, but some people are like, you should do the dry sauna, not the infrared.

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From what I could tell,

From what I could tell,

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it's totally fine, and it's

it's totally fine, and it's

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importantly, it fit into my life whereas the other one would have required, like,

importantly, it fit into my life whereas the other one would have required, like,

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a whole bunch of, like, waiting

a whole bunch of, like, waiting

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for, like, a bigger space and electrical and all these changes to be made in order to work. As long as as it can get hot enough, it's good. Yeah. Exactly. So those have been, for me, the best find. Now here's the worst the worst buys, the worst things I did.

for, like, a bigger space and electrical and all these changes to be made in order to work. As long as as it can get hot enough, it's good. Yeah. Exactly. So those have been, for me, the best find. Now here's the worst the worst buys, the worst things I did.

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I anything that I attached to my wrist has just failed. So,

I anything that I attached to my wrist has just failed. So,

33:07

I bought an Apple Watch,

I bought an Apple Watch,

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lost it. Alright. It got stolen slash watch. I don't know what happened. It was at the office, and it was gone.

lost it. Alright. It got stolen slash watch. I don't know what happened. It was at the office, and it was gone.

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Second one,

Second one,

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bought a Fitbit, lost it, whoop band, have it. Battery dead. Don't charge it regularly enough for it to be useful.

bought a Fitbit, lost it, whoop band, have it. Battery dead. Don't charge it regularly enough for it to be useful.

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So everything I've tried that's like a fitness tracker that is, like, a wearable device.

So everything I've tried that's like a fitness tracker that is, like, a wearable device.

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It doesn't work for me because I'm too disorganized and lose shit and don't keep things charged and ready for the morning and then charge it for sleep. I had an uhuru ring. I lost that too.

It doesn't work for me because I'm too disorganized and lose shit and don't keep things charged and ready for the morning and then charge it for sleep. I had an uhuru ring. I lost that too.

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I have I have failed on, like, five wearables this year. So I gotta count myself out on that. Do you wear a wedding ring? Lost my wedding ring as well. So that's, you know, for bonus points. Dude, I that's why I wear these, like, twenty dollar rubber ones. Yeah. Mine was only a sixty dollar wedding ring anyways. So I didn't feel I mean, the sentimental loss. Yeah. But,

I have I have failed on, like, five wearables this year. So I gotta count myself out on that. Do you wear a wedding ring? Lost my wedding ring as well. So that's, you know, for bonus points. Dude, I that's why I wear these, like, twenty dollar rubber ones. Yeah. Mine was only a sixty dollar wedding ring anyways. So I didn't feel I mean, the sentimental loss. Yeah. But,

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you know, I kind of knew that, hey, I don't know if I'm a ring guy. Never wore a ring in my life. Yeah. And sure enough, just taking it on and off ended up. I lost mine the first week. Say. Yeah. I lost mine on my honeymoon. The world's

you know, I kind of knew that, hey, I don't know if I'm a ring guy. Never wore a ring in my life. Yeah. And sure enough, just taking it on and off ended up. I lost mine the first week. Say. Yeah. I lost mine on my honeymoon. The world's

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best husband. Alright.

best husband. Alright.

34:17

Okay. Let me give you a a different one. Have I hear we got this shift to media.

Okay. Let me give you a a different one. Have I hear we got this shift to media.

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Great podcast, articles, YouTube channels, whatever. That we really liked.

Great podcast, articles, YouTube channels, whatever. That we really liked.

34:28

I have a whole category called canceled comedians,

I have a whole category called canceled comedians,

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which is like

which is like

34:33

There's a whole bunch of people that I love their content.

There's a whole bunch of people that I love their content.

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They're canceled by, you know, society,

They're canceled by, you know, society,

34:39

but I love they're still They're just as funny as they were before everybody found out that they, like, you know, like to have sex with eighteen year old girls or whatever. Like,

but I love they're still They're just as funny as they were before everybody found out that they, like, you know, like to have sex with eighteen year old girls or whatever. Like,

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so there's this guy, Kristelia.

so there's this guy, Kristelia.

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Who got canceled, I don't know, a year ago. I found him really funny before. I found him really funny now. And he also has these little, like, almost like inspirational moments in between the comedy

Who got canceled, I don't know, a year ago. I found him really funny before. I found him really funny now. And he also has these little, like, almost like inspirational moments in between the comedy

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that I love. There's this video he has called Life Ripps. Have you heard this video?

that I love. There's this video he has called Life Ripps. Have you heard this video?

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No. But I love him. All he's saying is, like,

No. But I love him. All he's saying is, like,

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you know, this shit was happening in my day or whatever. And he's, like, he has this phrase, life rips, which is, like, he's saying, like, life life is awesome. And he's like, just remember, he's like, that life rips and then he he he tells the story. It's just inter he's a great storyteller.

you know, this shit was happening in my day or whatever. And he's, like, he has this phrase, life rips, which is, like, he's saying, like, life life is awesome. And he's like, just remember, he's like, that life rips and then he he he tells the story. It's just inter he's a great storyteller.

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Amazing storyteller.

Amazing storyteller.

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He tells a story about life rips.

He tells a story about life rips.

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It's a feel good moment. It's a reminder that, actually, yeah, you're right. Instead of focusing on my problems all day, let me just focus on the fact that life actually really freaking rips.

It's a feel good moment. It's a reminder that, actually, yeah, you're right. Instead of focusing on my problems all day, let me just focus on the fact that life actually really freaking rips.

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And,

And,

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and then he he brings that in. He brings that as a callback into a bunch of other podcast that he does where he'll tell a little story. He's like, you know, this is a life rep's moment.

and then he he brings that in. He brings that as a callback into a bunch of other podcast that he does where he'll tell a little story. He's like, you know, this is a life rep's moment.

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And, just that philosophy has, like, made me really happy. He does this thing also where

And, just that philosophy has, like, made me really happy. He does this thing also where

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some he'll be recording the episode, and you you'll relate to this. He's he he's kind of like,

some he'll be recording the episode, and you you'll relate to this. He's he he's kind of like,

35:57

I think a lot of great entrepreneurs and artists are this way where they're, like,

I think a lot of great entrepreneurs and artists are this way where they're, like,

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sort of, like, perfectionists in a way. Like, they want things to go well. They want well well made stuff.

sort of, like, perfectionists in a way. Like, they want things to go well. They want well well made stuff.

36:07

And so let's say there's a technical problem where he's like, he's like, let's pull up that clip and then, like, the computer crashes

And so let's say there's a technical problem where he's like, he's like, let's pull up that clip and then, like, the computer crashes

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or, like, somebody walks by and unplugs his microphone, like, midway through or whatever. Like, it kicks out the power cord to the lamp.

or, like, somebody walks by and unplugs his microphone, like, midway through or whatever. Like, it kicks out the power cord to the lamp.

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And instead of in that moment getting mad, he just has he just placed it with this thing where he just goes, yes.

And instead of in that moment getting mad, he just has he just placed it with this thing where he just goes, yes.

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The cord ripped out of the wall. He'll just, like, some he'll be like, yes. We can't find the file. And he'll be like, Yes, dude. Yes. We absolutely can't show the thing. Although I'm talking about, yes, nobody has any idea what I'm trying to say. And he just, like, instead of being, like, oh, no,

The cord ripped out of the wall. He'll just, like, some he'll be like, yes. We can't find the file. And he'll be like, Yes, dude. Yes. We absolutely can't show the thing. Although I'm talking about, yes, nobody has any idea what I'm trying to say. And he just, like, instead of being, like, oh, no,

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This sucks, which is like such a pattern that we can fall into.

This sucks, which is like such a pattern that we can fall into.

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He just does this little yes thing.

He just does this little yes thing.

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And I kinda stole it in my daily life my wife hates it. She thinks it's, like, very annoying that I do this. Like, she doesn't understand what I'm doing. She doesn't know the reference. No. She will. But it oh, she doesn't listen to this podcast either. So she she still probably won't But

And I kinda stole it in my daily life my wife hates it. She thinks it's, like, very annoying that I do this. Like, she doesn't understand what I'm doing. She doesn't know the reference. No. She will. But it oh, she doesn't listen to this podcast either. So she she still probably won't But

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it's such a hack, dude. It's such a hack to just

it's such a hack, dude. It's such a hack to just

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instead of just letting this little inconvenience,

instead of just letting this little inconvenience,

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this little thing that went wrong,

this little thing that went wrong,

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f up your mood

f up your mood

37:12

just, like,

just, like,

37:13

rewire the response to something that's almost ira. It's, like, sarcastic, but it actually becomes real by the time you do it. Jocko, who's this guy who goes on Joe rogan, he does the same thing. He's just, like, it's crazy, I don't know, maybe seal type dude,

rewire the response to something that's almost ira. It's, like, sarcastic, but it actually becomes real by the time you do it. Jocko, who's this guy who goes on Joe rogan, he does the same thing. He's just, like, it's crazy, I don't know, maybe seal type dude,

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super hardcore. His whole thing is around, like, you know, pain is good. And so, like, he'll be like,

super hardcore. His whole thing is around, like, you know, pain is good. And so, like, he'll be like,

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you know, oh, you got shin splits.

you know, oh, you got shin splits.

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Good.

Good.

37:36

Like, this runner-up. I love that. It gets me fired up. He'll be like, you know, oh, you know, your Uber riding didn't show up. Good time to have a hike. It's like, you know, he replaces of,

Like, this runner-up. I love that. It gets me fired up. He'll be like, you know, oh, you know, your Uber riding didn't show up. Good time to have a hike. It's like, you know, he replaces of,

37:47

that sucks. Yeah.

that sucks. Yeah.

37:48

Good. Time time to get tough or good. You

Good. Time time to get tough or good. You

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know, Good. Gotta go earn more money. Lost all mine. I'm like, you know, whatever. It's like almost comedic

know, Good. Gotta go earn more money. Lost all mine. I'm like, you know, whatever. It's like almost comedic

37:57

how, like, how extreme he is in it. But not gonna lie. This shit actually works. And so that's my that's my content recommendation. Do do you have, I've got a alright. I've got a bunch of, but do you have a car any type of cardio machine? At your house? Treadmill. Yeah.

how, like, how extreme he is in it. But not gonna lie. This shit actually works. And so that's my that's my content recommendation. Do do you have, I've got a alright. I've got a bunch of, but do you have a car any type of cardio machine? At your house? Treadmill. Yeah.

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And a row. Alright. Yeah. You do have a rower? I have like a, like, you have like a rower that makes you like you're on the Swiss Canal or whatever. I have, like, a Rinky dink, you know, hundred twenty dollar Costco rower. Alright. I don't think you're gonna wanna do this then. But I was gonna say tomorrow. So I've been doing I'll do it on my shooting row. I've been doing these things where, like, I'm like, alright, everyone, this Sunday, sixty minute row, posted results. Such a in plus a fitness influencer move, motivating others. And so do you well, do do you have a bike? You don't have a bike? Do you have a bike? I have a bicycle, not like a not a spin bike. I have a camera. It might be easier if you're doing the bike. So I'm gonna get up early tomorrow, like, seven thirty or maybe seven, and I'll get this thing done.

And a row. Alright. Yeah. You do have a rower? I have like a, like, you have like a rower that makes you like you're on the Swiss Canal or whatever. I have, like, a Rinky dink, you know, hundred twenty dollar Costco rower. Alright. I don't think you're gonna wanna do this then. But I was gonna say tomorrow. So I've been doing I'll do it on my shooting row. I've been doing these things where, like, I'm like, alright, everyone, this Sunday, sixty minute row, posted results. Such a in plus a fitness influencer move, motivating others. And so do you well, do do you have a bike? You don't have a bike? Do you have a bike? I have a bicycle, not like a not a spin bike. I have a camera. It might be easier if you're doing the bike. So I'm gonna get up early tomorrow, like, seven thirty or maybe seven, and I'll get this thing done.

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And just post your results and be like, I just and so I tweeted out, I go tomorrow. It's a ninety minute day. We gotta because and people are like, isn't that boring? And I'm like, yes.

And just post your results and be like, I just and so I tweeted out, I go tomorrow. It's a ninety minute day. We gotta because and people are like, isn't that boring? And I'm like, yes.

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That is the point. We should go through pain tomorrow before we get thankful. Right. So if you wanna do it with me, do a ninety minute, any type of ninety minute steady cardio.

That is the point. We should go through pain tomorrow before we get thankful. Right. So if you wanna do it with me, do a ninety minute, any type of ninety minute steady cardio.

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I mean, it's good. I don't think you No one gotta watch my kids.

I mean, it's good. I don't think you No one gotta watch my kids.

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Yeah. Well, I don't think he gives me. Not even a bike ride with Sam.

Yeah. Well, I don't think he gives me. Not even a bike ride with Sam.

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Well, that's why you gotta get up really early to do it. You gotta, like, go through hard, some hardship. I don't think you're gonna be able to run for ninety minutes, but even like a brisk walk, honestly, for ninety could work. But just like as long as your heart rate's like one forty ish.

Well, that's why you gotta get up really early to do it. You gotta, like, go through hard, some hardship. I don't think you're gonna be able to run for ninety minutes, but even like a brisk walk, honestly, for ninety could work. But just like as long as your heart rate's like one forty ish.

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Alright. Let me let me let me let me tell you, five or four. I'm gonna go fast on some bits of media. The first,

Alright. Let me let me let me let me tell you, five or four. I'm gonna go fast on some bits of media. The first,

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this happened earlier this year. There's this amazing

this happened earlier this year. There's this amazing

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video of Rose Nami Unis, this

video of Rose Nami Unis, this

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awesome UFC fighter, but the reason she's interesting is she's like really quiet and introspective

awesome UFC fighter, but the reason she's interesting is she's like really quiet and introspective

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and seems like a sweetheart, not like a fighter. And there's this amazing video of her about to fight this bad ass woman from China who just looks like the terminator and she's repeating to herself. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. And when I first saw that, I teared up. It's the greatest.

and seems like a sweetheart, not like a fighter. And there's this amazing video of her about to fight this bad ass woman from China who just looks like the terminator and she's repeating to herself. I'm the best. I'm the best. I'm the best. And when I first saw that, I teared up. It's the greatest.

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It it pumps me up. It's amazing. The second thing, primitive technology. By the way, I just give a a recommendation there. For people who don't follow the UFC, they're gonna watch this thing whatever, you know, if even if they wouldn't watch it, it wouldn't have the same emotional resonance. If resonating for you because you know how much of a terminator that other girl's. You know Rose's backstory and as she struggles with anxiety. She's not a bravado type of person. So for her to say I'm the best, it's not

It it pumps me up. It's amazing. The second thing, primitive technology. By the way, I just give a a recommendation there. For people who don't follow the UFC, they're gonna watch this thing whatever, you know, if even if they wouldn't watch it, it wouldn't have the same emotional resonance. If resonating for you because you know how much of a terminator that other girl's. You know Rose's backstory and as she struggles with anxiety. She's not a bravado type of person. So for her to say I'm the best, it's not

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Bravato and trash talk. It's literally

Bravato and trash talk. It's literally

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self talk so she, you know, can perform Believe it. To your best and and not let anxiety get the best of her. So you know the backstory, but I think everybody should have these go tos, these the stash

self talk so she, you know, can perform Believe it. To your best and and not let anxiety get the best of her. So you know the backstory, but I think everybody should have these go tos, these the stash

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of, like, inspiring moments that you were there for that you know the context. You know the backstory.

of, like, inspiring moments that you were there for that you know the context. You know the backstory.

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And then you could just put the it's like that flooding thing I was talking about earlier. You can just go back to it and you can instantly get that feeling.

And then you could just put the it's like that flooding thing I was talking about earlier. You can just go back to it and you can instantly get that feeling.

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And you should just have well of these. Which I, like, I I think that people should know that, I mean, like, successful people. I don't know if people consider me successful or not, but I know that, like, way more successful people than I do this. But I rely on, like, Like, I'll, like, read a book about someone who I admire. And I'm, like, how would this person react to this situation?

And you should just have well of these. Which I, like, I I think that people should know that, I mean, like, successful people. I don't know if people consider me successful or not, but I know that, like, way more successful people than I do this. But I rely on, like, Like, I'll, like, read a book about someone who I admire. And I'm, like, how would this person react to this situation?

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Totally. Like, I I do that all the time or I'm, like, sometimes I'll even do it with like UFC fight or something like, this guy just got punched in the face and he got up. Like, I could do it.

Totally. Like, I I do that all the time or I'm, like, sometimes I'll even do it with like UFC fight or something like, this guy just got punched in the face and he got up. Like, I could do it.

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So I like that roast number units thing. The second thing is primitive technology. Have you heard of primitive technology? No. What's that? Click the link. It's in there. So this guy

So I like that roast number units thing. The second thing is primitive technology. Have you heard of primitive technology? No. What's that? Click the link. It's in there. So this guy

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has ten million subscribers on YouTube

has ten million subscribers on YouTube

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in his videos of which there are

in his videos of which there are

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how many are there? Maybe fifty. You're talking about guy. He's like a caveman.

how many are there? Maybe fifty. You're talking about guy. He's like a caveman.

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Yes. So there's there's maybe only twenty videos.

Yes. So there's there's maybe only twenty videos.

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And his very first video has thirty one million views. It was years ago,

And his very first video has thirty one million views. It was years ago,

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and it's him, not talking, not saying a word. He's in the woods,

and it's him, not talking, not saying a word. He's in the woods,

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and he's building a hut and eventually it works out to build like a proper house and he does it without saying a word and he does it with only using things that he finds in the woods. No power tools, no nothing. He builds a kiln. He builds a tiled roof hut. So I'm that I'm on that video. It starts. And she's just pant the camera is just planning at this just a spot on the ground in the middle of the forest.

and he's building a hut and eventually it works out to build like a proper house and he does it without saying a word and he does it with only using things that he finds in the woods. No power tools, no nothing. He builds a kiln. He builds a tiled roof hut. So I'm that I'm on that video. It starts. And she's just pant the camera is just planning at this just a spot on the ground in the middle of the forest.

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It's clear, like, there's nothing here. I'm gonna build a little hut here. Now click now click start. Click to the end. Click to the end.

It's clear, like, there's nothing here. I'm gonna build a little hut here. Now click now click start. Click to the end. Click to the end.

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He's he had, like, a clay hut

He's he had, like, a clay hut

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with a fireplace in there. With a fireplace and a chimney.

with a fireplace in there. With a fireplace and a chimney.

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Yes.

Yes.

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And the whole video, he doesn't say a single word. All you do is He literally has bare hands.

And the whole video, he doesn't say a single word. All you do is He literally has bare hands.

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Yes. Just building it and then he'll like make like a hammer out of like

Yes. Just building it and then he'll like make like a hammer out of like

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some he'll make rope and then he'll make a hammer out a rope and a stick or a and a rock and a stick.

some he'll make rope and then he'll make a hammer out a rope and a stick or a and a rock and a stick.

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Do you know this guy's backstory? Like, this guy looks just like everybody I want to duke with? Like, who is this guy? And why does he give up? It's in Australia, I believe, and he owns this land. And so if you go to his about page, he just it just says where is this? And he goes, Queensland, Australia. Do you live in the wild? I don't live in the wild. But I love going out into the land to build these projects. Yeah.

Do you know this guy's backstory? Like, this guy looks just like everybody I want to duke with? Like, who is this guy? And why does he give up? It's in Australia, I believe, and he owns this land. And so if you go to his about page, he just it just says where is this? And he goes, Queensland, Australia. Do you live in the wild? I don't live in the wild. But I love going out into the land to build these projects. Yeah.

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And so

And so

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he doesn't talk much. He doesn't do anything. His channel has gotten one billion views.

he doesn't talk much. He doesn't do anything. His channel has gotten one billion views.

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And all he's doing

And all he's doing

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is building, like, like, there's another one. I'm watching him make fire just with this. He's just rubbing his hands together like this.

is building, like, like, there's another one. I'm watching him make fire just with this. He's just rubbing his hands together like this.

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With a stick in between, and he just made a fire while you were talking. It's so relaxing. It's so awesome. I love it.

With a stick in between, and he just made a fire while you were talking. It's so relaxing. It's so awesome. I love it.

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Be honest. Do you actually want because I see this. I'm like, this is so cool.

Be honest. Do you actually want because I see this. I'm like, this is so cool.

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And I'll, like, click through one, and then I'll be like, oh, this is just something I'm gonna go tell other people about. Don't I would never actually sit here and watch this for thirty minutes. I've watched all of them.

And I'll, like, click through one, and then I'll be like, oh, this is just something I'm gonna go tell other people about. Don't I would never actually sit here and watch this for thirty minutes. I've watched all of them.

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Do you have apple do you have Apple TV?

Do you have apple do you have Apple TV?

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No, I don't. But I have Apple TV. So so my version of TV is YouTube. So first thing when I sit down the couch, I go straight to YouTube and I'll just watch like a thirty this thirty it's like This is like that TV show how stuff's built. Do you remember that? Yeah. But you do it in the background, or you actually just watch. Pay attention to him. Yeah. Maybe I'll, like, be talking to Sarah or cooking

No, I don't. But I have Apple TV. So so my version of TV is YouTube. So first thing when I sit down the couch, I go straight to YouTube and I'll just watch like a thirty this thirty it's like This is like that TV show how stuff's built. Do you remember that? Yeah. But you do it in the background, or you actually just watch. Pay attention to him. Yeah. Maybe I'll, like, be talking to Sarah or cooking

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Yeah. I'm like, oh my god. Wait. Watch this. Look at what he's doing. Yeah. Maybe it's in the back. I mean, do you I don't actually sit down and really watch TV unless it's a movie.

Yeah. I'm like, oh my god. Wait. Watch this. Look at what he's doing. Yeah. Maybe it's in the back. I mean, do you I don't actually sit down and really watch TV unless it's a movie.

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Or the challenge? Or the challenge. Okay. So so this is amazing. Okay. Premium technology a lot. Alright. Let me keep going. Let me keep going. I'm gonna roll. Okay. The the third one, How to be great, just be good repeatedly. This is an article by Steph Smith, who works for me. There's two reasons why I love this article. The first That is one of the best headlines I've ever read. Yes. It is a wonderful headline and she writes this article about how

Or the challenge? Or the challenge. Okay. So so this is amazing. Okay. Premium technology a lot. Alright. Let me keep going. Let me keep going. I'm gonna roll. Okay. The the third one, How to be great, just be good repeatedly. This is an article by Steph Smith, who works for me. There's two reasons why I love this article. The first That is one of the best headlines I've ever read. Yes. It is a wonderful headline and she writes this article about how

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great things rarely,

great things rarely,

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are you, like, trying to be great? It's more so just like being kinda good, but doing it consistently. And in my life, I have found that this podcast with a bunch of other stuff.

are you, like, trying to be great? It's more so just like being kinda good, but doing it consistently. And in my life, I have found that this podcast with a bunch of other stuff.

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Like, I'm like, I don't wanna do this today. It's like, alright, fine. I'm gonna do it anyway. Even though I know today I'm not gonna do a good job of it. I'm just gonna get it done. And she does a really good job of articulating why that works. So I love that article.

Like, I'm like, I don't wanna do this today. It's like, alright, fine. I'm gonna do it anyway. Even though I know today I'm not gonna do a good job of it. I'm just gonna get it done. And she does a really good job of articulating why that works. So I love that article.

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Alright, I'm gonna keep going.

Alright, I'm gonna keep going.

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The the next one, there's this guy who's got a YouTube channel called more plates, more dates. Yeah. Watch this guy. He is amazing. He looks at pro athletes,

The the next one, there's this guy who's got a YouTube channel called more plates, more dates. Yeah. Watch this guy. He is amazing. He looks at pro athletes,

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and actors and he and he's a I guess he's a I think he's a doctor. I don't know what his background is. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. And he tells you what steroids. He thinks different people are on.

and actors and he and he's a I guess he's a I think he's a doctor. I don't know what his background is. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. And he tells you what steroids. He thinks different people are on.

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I watch these and every time I do, I regret so much. I'm like, what a waste of my life I just did?

I watch these and every time I do, I regret so much. I'm like, what a waste of my life I just did?

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But I he comes up in my feed and I'm like, oh, I know that person. Yeah. Are they on steroids? And then, like,

But I he comes up in my feed and I'm like, oh, I know that person. Yeah. Are they on steroids? And then, like,

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thirty minutes later, I'm like, I cannot believe I've let this be in my brain. For the last thirty minutes. What a waste of my brain?

thirty minutes later, I'm like, I cannot believe I've let this be in my brain. For the last thirty minutes. What a waste of my brain?

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It's interesting though because they'll explain, like, the science behind it. He's like, you he's like, a lot of people think that this athlete is doing EPO you wouldn't do EPO because the way that your body works is this, this, this, this, and this. And he, like, it so it's kind of interesting. He goes, but you would do HGH because the way HGH works is it's proven to do. So it's like a science. It's interesting. Alright. And then they'll But, yeah, there's a little bit of science. Of it's It's gossip from a person who I believe is reputable.

It's interesting though because they'll explain, like, the science behind it. He's like, you he's like, a lot of people think that this athlete is doing EPO you wouldn't do EPO because the way that your body works is this, this, this, this, and this. And he, like, it so it's kind of interesting. He goes, but you would do HGH because the way HGH works is it's proven to do. So it's like a science. It's interesting. Alright. And then they'll But, yeah, there's a little bit of science. Of it's It's gossip from a person who I believe is reputable.

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Not in having firsthand knowledge of the people, but firsthand knowledge and doping. And the final thing,

Not in having firsthand knowledge of the people, but firsthand knowledge and doping. And the final thing,

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I found this book. It has two reviews on Amazon.

I found this book. It has two reviews on Amazon.

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Only two reviews on Amazon. It's amazing.

Only two reviews on Amazon. It's amazing.

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And so, apparently,

And so, apparently,

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they in the four or in the foreword, they say that's one of the most popular books in Russia, but I I didn't know that. And they translated it into English So these two journalists from the USSR in nineteen thirty three

they in the four or in the foreword, they say that's one of the most popular books in Russia, but I I didn't know that. And they translated it into English So these two journalists from the USSR in nineteen thirty three

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made a deal with the US government that they would let them come in and spend three months doing a road trip. And so they saved up a little bit of money. They came here and they bought a camper van and they spent three months traveling America, talking to people with nothing to do, really just all they just wanted to learn about of America.

made a deal with the US government that they would let them come in and spend three months doing a road trip. And so they saved up a little bit of money. They came here and they bought a camper van and they spent three months traveling America, talking to people with nothing to do, really just all they just wanted to learn about of America.

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And from an outside perspective, they show what makes America special and it's incredibly fascinating because we take a lot of things for granted and they criticize America and this is in the nineteen thirties. So this is this point is particularly

And from an outside perspective, they show what makes America special and it's incredibly fascinating because we take a lot of things for granted and they criticize America and this is in the nineteen thirties. So this is this point is particularly

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particularly true. They criticize like our race relations and things like that. This is like this is crazy how people treat each other but there is a lot of good including

particularly true. They criticize like our race relations and things like that. This is like this is crazy how people treat each other but there is a lot of good including

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they say there's something about Americans that I've never seen ever before which is they always think that they are going to overcome any adversity and they always are optimistic about like some situation and

they say there's something about Americans that I've never seen ever before which is they always think that they are going to overcome any adversity and they always are optimistic about like some situation and

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also

also

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oddly, they're friends with their bosses.

oddly, they're friends with their bosses.

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So, like, they work together to achieve things and they don't, like, like, their friend, like, you could be friends with your boss. And you cannot hate them or wanna rob from them. Right. And people are and and and it's a wonderful book. It's written in the thirties. It's awesome.

So, like, they work together to achieve things and they don't, like, like, their friend, like, you could be friends with your boss. And you cannot hate them or wanna rob from them. Right. And people are and and and it's a wonderful book. It's written in the thirties. It's awesome.

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That's my book. Oh, it's called, Little Golden America. Nice.

That's my book. Oh, it's called, Little Golden America. Nice.

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That's great. You've read you read the whole thing? I've yeah. I'm finishing it up now. And I actually posted a link on my Twitter where it's free like a PDF.

That's great. You've read you read the whole thing? I've yeah. I'm finishing it up now. And I actually posted a link on my Twitter where it's free like a PDF.

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Okay. Cool. I like that.

Okay. Cool. I like that.

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Okay. I have a couple quick ones. So

Okay. I have a couple quick ones. So

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a Chrome extension that I'm liking a lot. It's called Everyday.

a Chrome extension that I'm liking a lot. It's called Everyday.

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And it's basically a habit tracker. So,

And it's basically a habit tracker. So,

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So if you go to the website, I think it's called Everyday.

So if you go to the website, I think it's called Everyday.

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Let me just find the everyday app, I think, is the thing.

Let me just find the everyday app, I think, is the thing.

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Look it up. And basically, you just say what you wanna do. So you're like, oh, I wanna, like, for me, for example, I have morning routine. I have clean lunch, clean dinner,

Look it up. And basically, you just say what you wanna do. So you're like, oh, I wanna, like, for me, for example, I have morning routine. I have clean lunch, clean dinner,

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I have workout.

I have workout.

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I have my,

I have my,

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gratitude thing. And then I have Oh, cool. That's it. And so and then basically what it does is it just lets you create a street. So you just say, yes, I did it this day. I, I'm, intentionally skipped it. I'm allowed to skip it, or I missed. And it just keeps track of your streaks, and it creates this awesome green grid of, like, as you do your habits, you get this really satisfying completion of, like, your grid being green. It just shows I'm doing the things I said I wanted to do, which for me is most people is all of the challenge. All of the challenge is that, oh, I just don't know what to do. It's I'm not doing the shit I know I should do. And, so this is just, you know, a great tool. And I get I think it's great because it's Chromeextend, so it's in your face. You don't have to remember to check it. It's every time you open a new tab in your browser, It's gonna remind you. Oh, yeah. I could I dock that out right now? You know, yeah. I could actually just do that right now, and I could I could get it done.

gratitude thing. And then I have Oh, cool. That's it. And so and then basically what it does is it just lets you create a street. So you just say, yes, I did it this day. I, I'm, intentionally skipped it. I'm allowed to skip it, or I missed. And it just keeps track of your streaks, and it creates this awesome green grid of, like, as you do your habits, you get this really satisfying completion of, like, your grid being green. It just shows I'm doing the things I said I wanted to do, which for me is most people is all of the challenge. All of the challenge is that, oh, I just don't know what to do. It's I'm not doing the shit I know I should do. And, so this is just, you know, a great tool. And I get I think it's great because it's Chromeextend, so it's in your face. You don't have to remember to check it. It's every time you open a new tab in your browser, It's gonna remind you. Oh, yeah. I could I dock that out right now? You know, yeah. I could actually just do that right now, and I could I could get it done.

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So it's

So it's

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actually have my own Chrome extension, and I've replaced it with this one. That's how good it is. So,

actually have my own Chrome extension, and I've replaced it with this one. That's how good it is. So,

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you know, this is one of my one of my favorites. I'm downloading it now. Okay. Let me give you a couple other things, and I think are are really cool. You showed me this camo. It's an app for your iPhone. Now we spent a lot of money and

you know, this is one of my one of my favorites. I'm downloading it now. Okay. Let me give you a couple other things, and I think are are really cool. You showed me this camo. It's an app for your iPhone. Now we spent a lot of money and

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time

time

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You may not be able to tell right now because we're both not in our main studio or I'm not in my main studio. You're you're in a different spot. I look good.

You may not be able to tell right now because we're both not in our main studio or I'm not in my main studio. You're you're in a different spot. I look good.

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No. I'm not traveling. Look, I'm sorry. You've been traveling. So we've, you know, on on different videos, we have different level of quality or whatever.

No. I'm not traveling. Look, I'm sorry. You've been traveling. So we've, you know, on on different videos, we have different level of quality or whatever.

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But we did the, you know, we both tried on our own and then we hired people to, like, hey, how do people get that fancy ass blur and, like, super HD video. Like It is so hard. And they're like, oh, you gotta buy this Canon.

But we did the, you know, we both tried on our own and then we hired people to, like, hey, how do people get that fancy ass blur and, like, super HD video. Like It is so hard. And they're like, oh, you gotta buy this Canon.

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Which one? Fifty d, forty d, sixty, seventy. Which which d do I buy? Okay. I'll get this one. Oh, then I need, like, some kind of,

Which one? Fifty d, forty d, sixty, seventy. Which which d do I buy? Okay. I'll get this one. Oh, then I need, like, some kind of,

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cord or, like, a capture card, or how am I gonna do that? It's it's just so much

cord or, like, a capture card, or how am I gonna do that? It's it's just so much

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pay the button. Battery. Oh, but the battery's gonna die during the episode. So you have to actually get a a double battery or a dummy battery, pain in the ass. So and it's thousands of dollars. The the camera itself was like fifteen hundred dollars, something like that. So it's really expensive.

pay the button. Battery. Oh, but the battery's gonna die during the episode. So you have to actually get a a double battery or a dummy battery, pain in the ass. So and it's thousands of dollars. The the camera itself was like fifteen hundred dollars, something like that. So it's really expensive.

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And you were like, oh, dude, I'm just gonna use in this iPhone app called camo.

And you were like, oh, dude, I'm just gonna use in this iPhone app called camo.

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That just you just download the app, and then,

That just you just download the app, and then,

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it just uses the native iPhone, like portrait mode to make your camera look good. And you were like, look, I'm just using my phone. I look just as good as you. And I was like, yeah, I'm using the two thousand dollar thing, and it's really hard to set up. You know, you're sick. It's only thirty bucks. And look, I'm traveling, and I just bring this with me because it's my phone. And I was like, oh my god. It's I think it's forty or fifty bucks. I I don't know if it's is it thirty? Maybe it's I don't remember. I don't think you're the new iOS

it just uses the native iPhone, like portrait mode to make your camera look good. And you were like, look, I'm just using my phone. I look just as good as you. And I was like, yeah, I'm using the two thousand dollar thing, and it's really hard to set up. You know, you're sick. It's only thirty bucks. And look, I'm traveling, and I just bring this with me because it's my phone. And I was like, oh my god. It's I think it's forty or fifty bucks. I I don't know if it's is it thirty? Maybe it's I don't remember. I don't think you're the new iOS

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it's just this is just baked in, actually. I think they I don't think you even need this anymore.

it's just this is just baked in, actually. I think they I don't think you even need this anymore.

51:12

But for now, and if you I don't if I'm wrong about that iOS. You mean it's coming out soon? Like, in the new iOS, it's it's gonna be part of the native camera. So you don't need an app to do this, I think. You meet, but one coming out soon or one out now? I don't know. Now soon something.

But for now, and if you I don't if I'm wrong about that iOS. You mean it's coming out soon? Like, in the new iOS, it's it's gonna be part of the native camera. So you don't need an app to do this, I think. You meet, but one coming out soon or one out now? I don't know. Now soon something.

51:28

This is something like that. So, but in the meantime, this app camo is kind of amazing,

This is something like that. So, but in the meantime, this app camo is kind of amazing,

51:34

great business by whoever's doing this and amazing timing because the whole world went remote, and everybody wants to look good. So,

great business by whoever's doing this and amazing timing because the whole world went remote, and everybody wants to look good. So,

51:40

that's definitely one of the best projects. The analogy we made or someone made is having camo.

that's definitely one of the best projects. The analogy we made or someone made is having camo.

51:45

It's like,

It's like,

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in the seventies and eighties and nineties when it mattered that you wore a suit, having a camo is like showing up in a meeting in a nice suit. Exactly. Exactly.

in the seventies and eighties and nineties when it mattered that you wore a suit, having a camo is like showing up in a meeting in a nice suit. Exactly. Exactly.

51:56

So so I think that's a great, product. Okay. I'm gonna give you a YouTube channel. So you did more plates, more dates.

So so I think that's a great, product. Okay. I'm gonna give you a YouTube channel. So you did more plates, more dates.

52:02

The binge I've been on is

The binge I've been on is

52:04

it's, like, kind of embarrassing almost. It's these old school direct sales seminars.

it's, like, kind of embarrassing almost. It's these old school direct sales seminars.

52:11

So I'm like, okay, how do I,

So I'm like, okay, how do I,

52:14

I don't know why I like this. I'm not even doing anything that has direct sales. Like, because I'm not a product I sell that's direct sales. I'm not a salesman. I've never been one.

I don't know why I like this. I'm not even doing anything that has direct sales. Like, because I'm not a product I sell that's direct sales. I'm not a salesman. I've never been one.

52:23

But I'm just, like, fascinated with the art of persuasion and saying, which ones. And so, so there's a couple that are really good. Last night, like, for example, I fell asleep last night while listening to it. If you just search Tony Robbins,

But I'm just, like, fascinated with the art of persuasion and saying, which ones. And so, so there's a couple that are really good. Last night, like, for example, I fell asleep last night while listening to it. If you just search Tony Robbins,

52:35

sales rare,

sales rare,

52:36

and it's like,

and it's like,

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there's two. There's one where he explains how he's sold, how he got his career started. He doesn't talk about this much. He got his career started

there's two. There's one where he explains how he's sold, how he got his career started. He doesn't talk about this much. He got his career started

52:44

selling audio cassettes, like music music tapes

selling audio cassettes, like music music tapes

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to people,

to people,

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you know, to to people. And he would do these, like, you know, he'd go and and he's like, yeah. Like, the way we would do it is that woman would reach out to the potential customer and they would say, we'd love to have you, we'd love to give you a free gift.

you know, to to people. And he would do these, like, you know, he'd go and and he's like, yeah. Like, the way we would do it is that woman would reach out to the potential customer and they would say, we'd love to have you, we'd love to give you a free gift.

53:01

And, we'd love to tell you a little bit about our company. And then they'd be like, free gift. And you say, yeah, it's a free gift. It's usually worth about a hundred dollars. And we'd love to give it to you and, you know, if you'll if you'd meet with her, a person. And then Tony was that person, and he would be like, he would walk through the step by step thing. He'd be like, I would say this. And why am I saying that? I'm saying that because

And, we'd love to tell you a little bit about our company. And then they'd be like, free gift. And you say, yeah, it's a free gift. It's usually worth about a hundred dollars. And we'd love to give it to you and, you know, if you'll if you'd meet with her, a person. And then Tony was that person, and he would be like, he would walk through the step by step thing. He'd be like, I would say this. And why am I saying that? I'm saying that because

53:20

blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's the thing about how people buy. He's, like, and he's got his whole philosophy. And he even says in this thing, he's like, you know, Would I do this now? No. Cause I feel like it's a little too pushy.

blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's the thing about how people buy. He's, like, and he's got his whole philosophy. And he even says in this thing, he's like, you know, Would I do this now? No. Cause I feel like it's a little too pushy.

53:30

And but I'm always the type where I wanna know

And but I'm always the type where I wanna know

53:33

What's the real potent shit that works? I wanna know the borderline illegal version of sailing and persuasion. And then it's up to me to decide.

What's the real potent shit that works? I wanna know the borderline illegal version of sailing and persuasion. And then it's up to me to decide.

53:41

Am I gonna keep the knob on level twelve or do I wanna turn it down to nine? But I don't wanna bet this. I don't wanna be at level six because I was too afraid to ever find out. What is what does maximum persuasion look like? What is what's the channel called?

Am I gonna keep the knob on level twelve or do I wanna turn it down to nine? But I don't wanna bet this. I don't wanna be at level six because I was too afraid to ever find out. What is what does maximum persuasion look like? What is what's the channel called?

53:52

I mean, I just look at the individual videos. There's not any channel. So, like, I'll look. Gary Hallpert

I mean, I just look at the individual videos. There's not any channel. So, like, I'll look. Gary Hallpert

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rare or Gary Halpert, nineteen eighties or Gary Hallpert original seminar. Tony Robbins Young. Tony Robbins rare. Tony Robbins's original seminar. Tony Robbins direct

rare or Gary Halpert, nineteen eighties or Gary Hallpert original seminar. Tony Robbins Young. Tony Robbins rare. Tony Robbins's original seminar. Tony Robbins direct

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sales. Tony Roberts's infomercial,

sales. Tony Roberts's infomercial,

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and I'll go either I'll just find their material and I'll deconstruct it myself, like, what's working? Like, we had Craig Clement's on. And Craig Clement's comes on the podcast, and he's a friend of ours, and he's, doesn't he he's a great person on the pod, but he doesn't go

and I'll go either I'll just find their material and I'll deconstruct it myself, like, what's working? Like, we had Craig Clement's on. And Craig Clement's comes on the podcast, and he's a friend of ours, and he's, doesn't he he's a great person on the pod, but he doesn't go

54:22

first, he doesn't talk a lot about his company. So he's got golden hippo. They've sold, like, over you know, I think he sold over a billion billion dollars worth of product in his lifetime.

first, he doesn't talk a lot about his company. So he's got golden hippo. They've sold, like, over you know, I think he sold over a billion billion dollars worth of product in his lifetime.

54:31

And Golden HIPAA will do, you know, over a hundred million dollars in sales. But it's like, hey, what Golden was a holding company? What are the companies underneath? And he doesn't really, like, go list out the thirteen companies or whatever however many there are underneath it. And nobody really pushes him for that. And he's kind of like at the made it stage now, but his he gotta start early on doing

And Golden HIPAA will do, you know, over a hundred million dollars in sales. But it's like, hey, what Golden was a holding company? What are the companies underneath? And he doesn't really, like, go list out the thirteen companies or whatever however many there are underneath it. And nobody really pushes him for that. And he's kind of like at the made it stage now, but his he gotta start early on doing

54:49

sales for a I who's like a dating coach. And it was like I bought that. And I was dating. And, like, how to how to basically, it's all different titles that all mean how to get late. If it was a wife, I was like, how to get the man of your dreams? How to get a husband? How to whatever? And he and so I find these old interviews

sales for a I who's like a dating coach. And it was like I bought that. And I was dating. And, like, how to how to basically, it's all different titles that all mean how to get late. If it was a wife, I was like, how to get the man of your dreams? How to get a husband? How to whatever? And he and so I find these old interviews

55:05

or old seminars he did with that guy, even pagan. And I'll go watch those and I'll see, oh, interesting. He's talking about this headline he wrote and why this headline is amazing and why he thinks it worked. This other one and why it totally didn't work. And what he learned from that? And I just find these to be like it's like puppy chow to me. It's just I I can't stop consuming it. Even though I really have no direct use for it. I just love it. So I'll tell you guys, listening.

or old seminars he did with that guy, even pagan. And I'll go watch those and I'll see, oh, interesting. He's talking about this headline he wrote and why this headline is amazing and why he thinks it worked. This other one and why it totally didn't work. And what he learned from that? And I just find these to be like it's like puppy chow to me. It's just I I can't stop consuming it. Even though I really have no direct use for it. I just love it. So I'll tell you guys, listening.

55:29

Gary Hallbert, so the Gary Hallbert's this guy. He died somewhat from just like a heart attack or something and he was an amazing copywriter

Gary Hallbert, so the Gary Hallbert's this guy. He died somewhat from just like a heart attack or something and he was an amazing copywriter

55:36

and he might have died in prison or

and he might have died in prison or

55:39

soon after. He was in prison for a handful of years because he sold something on there. That's the guy I wanna learn from. Yes. And the world famous

soon after. He was in prison for a handful of years because he sold something on there. That's the guy I wanna learn from. Yes. And the world famous

55:48

took it too far. Oh, like, you full Wall Street. I'll go learn from him. Not gonna take it as far, but I wanna learn from that person. I think he went to prison for male fraud or something like that. So basically people bought stuff and he just didn't fulfill it. And so he was just like, I I sold it and I just lied. And that's obviously wrong, but you can learn a lot from him and he's got these amazing things called

took it too far. Oh, like, you full Wall Street. I'll go learn from him. Not gonna take it as far, but I wanna learn from that person. I think he went to prison for male fraud or something like that. So basically people bought stuff and he just didn't fulfill it. And so he was just like, I I sold it and I just lied. And that's obviously wrong, but you can learn a lot from him and he's got these amazing things called

56:08

The letters from boron.

The letters from boron.

56:10

They're boron letters. Sorry. And they're all free. So if you Google Gary Hallbert boron letters, you can find them for free. It it's a series of letters that he wrote his son bond from prison and he teaches him everything he knows about life and selling.

They're boron letters. Sorry. And they're all free. So if you Google Gary Hallbert boron letters, you can find them for free. It it's a series of letters that he wrote his son bond from prison and he teaches him everything he knows about life and selling.

56:23

And so, like, You can go and read it. You can read them all by hand because I was just so and and you're gonna read it and you're gonna be like, why would you why is this so good? It's so good if you know why it's so good. It's almost like that. It's almost like that. It's like it's not No. It's clearly good. Like, you start you fall down, like, his slippery slope. You're like, why is this so interesting? Why do I wanna keep reading this? Exactly. You don't know. It's not like like, it's not a,

And so, like, You can go and read it. You can read them all by hand because I was just so and and you're gonna read it and you're gonna be like, why would you why is this so good? It's so good if you know why it's so good. It's almost like that. It's almost like that. It's like it's not No. It's clearly good. Like, you start you fall down, like, his slippery slope. You're like, why is this so interesting? Why do I wanna keep reading this? Exactly. You don't know. It's not like like, it's not a,

56:46

it's what I'll call a door, not a window. So, a window opportunity is one where you look right in, and you could see what's in it for you. And you're like, oh, okay. Like, for example, let's say you wanted to get better at copywriting, the thing is not called how to get better at copywriting. And then he doesn't say, here's five copywriting techniques. No. He actually

it's what I'll call a door, not a window. So, a window opportunity is one where you look right in, and you could see what's in it for you. And you're like, oh, okay. Like, for example, let's say you wanted to get better at copywriting, the thing is not called how to get better at copywriting. And then he doesn't say, here's five copywriting techniques. No. He actually

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writes these as letters to his son, and then he just duh shows you great copywriting. And then he sprinkles in lessons as he goes, but it it doesn't come to, like, letter five or whatever. There's, like, it takes you you're just interested. You're hooked and you don't know why. And that's the technique. And then you gotta, like, figure out why is this so damn good? What is it about this writing style that's so slippery that I just can't get it's like a TikTok feed. I can't get out of it. You know? And so I would say it's like more like a door where you kinda gotta go knock and and take a leap of faith that there is something on the other side of this. You can't see exactly what you're gonna get until the door opens.

writes these as letters to his son, and then he just duh shows you great copywriting. And then he sprinkles in lessons as he goes, but it it doesn't come to, like, letter five or whatever. There's, like, it takes you you're just interested. You're hooked and you don't know why. And that's the technique. And then you gotta, like, figure out why is this so damn good? What is it about this writing style that's so slippery that I just can't get it's like a TikTok feed. I can't get out of it. You know? And so I would say it's like more like a door where you kinda gotta go knock and and take a leap of faith that there is something on the other side of this. You can't see exactly what you're gonna get until the door opens.

57:38

Yeah. This is a winner.

Yeah. This is a winner.

57:40

Alright. Well, I think I think we just like laid out a ton of interesting stuff. Ben, are you there?

Alright. Well, I think I think we just like laid out a ton of interesting stuff. Ben, are you there?

57:47

And by the way, we should put, links to as much of these as we can in the show notes. I'm also gonna send out a newsletter of just like summarizing these,

And by the way, we should put, links to as much of these as we can in the show notes. I'm also gonna send out a newsletter of just like summarizing these,

57:55

just on, like, whatever my my own like my weekly newsletter, whatever, seanpourri dot com. And because I think these are actually really good, but most people listening to this, it's probably really fucking hard to be like, What am I supposed to do? Write these down and go Google all these different things these guys are talking about? Yeah. Well, you you need the links. What do you think, Ben? Yeah. This is gonna be great. At the bottom of the show notes, we'll just put a long list of all the links. So people can find everything. But this is awesome.

just on, like, whatever my my own like my weekly newsletter, whatever, seanpourri dot com. And because I think these are actually really good, but most people listening to this, it's probably really fucking hard to be like, What am I supposed to do? Write these down and go Google all these different things these guys are talking about? Yeah. Well, you you need the links. What do you think, Ben? Yeah. This is gonna be great. At the bottom of the show notes, we'll just put a long list of all the links. So people can find everything. But this is awesome.

58:19

We're just spewing cool products that we consume. By the way, I there's I I have half of you told me about minutes. Oh, you told me before, but I was busy. I learned about this premise, two minutes before the show, and I actually still have, like, five things that I we didn't even get to it. I know you have, like, ten things we didn't even get to. So we may wanna do if people like this, we may wanna do one more of these. I like it. And the point of this is it's supposed to be Thanksgiving special. Right? So you guys are if you're fat with Turkey, you're sitting on your couch, you you got some time on your hands. You can just start clicking through all these links, check out all this stuff, buy some stuff, watch some things. Have a good time. I think it's mostly free stuff, by the way that we mentioned.

We're just spewing cool products that we consume. By the way, I there's I I have half of you told me about minutes. Oh, you told me before, but I was busy. I learned about this premise, two minutes before the show, and I actually still have, like, five things that I we didn't even get to it. I know you have, like, ten things we didn't even get to. So we may wanna do if people like this, we may wanna do one more of these. I like it. And the point of this is it's supposed to be Thanksgiving special. Right? So you guys are if you're fat with Turkey, you're sitting on your couch, you you got some time on your hands. You can just start clicking through all these links, check out all this stuff, buy some stuff, watch some things. Have a good time. I think it's mostly free stuff, by the way that we mentioned.

58:55

Yeah. A lot of it is free or very cheap.

Yeah. A lot of it is free or very cheap.

58:59

Ben, I love that, that sales pitch out there. That was great. Who who who's have you been watching these videos too? Are we are we sharing YouTube accounts? What's going on?

Ben, I love that, that sales pitch out there. That was great. Who who who's have you been watching these videos too? Are we are we sharing YouTube accounts? What's going on?

59:08

Yeah. I just had to step up my game after you're talking about all this, copywriting and sales stuff.

Yeah. I just had to step up my game after you're talking about all this, copywriting and sales stuff.

59:12

That's the Mormon in you. You guys have natural salespeople. You guys are the the world's greatest salespeople.

That's the Mormon in you. You guys have natural salespeople. You guys are the the world's greatest salespeople.

59:18

I guess. Well, Mormon jokes never get old.

I guess. Well, Mormon jokes never get old.

59:21

No. Probably not. Some stereotypes are we have so few stereotypes we're allowed to access these days that when there is one that feels like it's okay, you just gotta hit it over and over again.

No. Probably not. Some stereotypes are we have so few stereotypes we're allowed to access these days that when there is one that feels like it's okay, you just gotta hit it over and over again.

59:31

Good. I'm down. Well, thank you. Alright. I'm out. I gotta go beat my family. See you. Happy Thanksgiving.

Good. I'm down. Well, thank you. Alright. I'm out. I gotta go beat my family. See you. Happy Thanksgiving.

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