00:00
Somebody's gonna build a to do list app that will actually do your to do list. And I think that's gonna be insane. I think that's gonna be, like, know how, like, Evernote was, like, kinda big for a little while. These at least kinda, like, note taking apps have gotten to, like, the few billion dollars.
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To do list app that actually does your to dos,
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like next level.
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Dude, I have, I have a bunch of interesting stuff to talk to you about today. Do you?
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Yeah. I got a couple couple things. Alright. Let me give you, I'm gonna give you an idea. So
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I don't know how much you've been paying attention to
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Like, I guess, like, how how much do you pay attention to the new stuff in AI? Because I feel like there's, like, a forty eight hour cycle where your mind is gonna be blown every forty eight hours with something new.
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And on Twitter, you get to see, like, a lot of the demos. I don't know if you have a chance to, like, play with any of these things yourself But, I've seen a a a bunch of them. Which one are you talking about? So there's one that's kind of interesting right now. It's called auto GPT. You heard of this? No. Or baby a g I? Oh, I just saw it on the top of hacker news today. So, basically, a g I is artificial, is is general. Artificial intelligence. So it's basically when when when AI could do anything. Right? Right now, like, self driving or getting the robot to pick a boxes and put them in the right spot, that's narrow AI. General AI is when you have a computer program that you could just talk to and it could just figure out how to do it's not trained in any one specific thing. What's the URL? What's the URL to go to?
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Well, it's not so simple. So this is like a get it's a GitHub project right now, some guy uploaded. So so what somebody did was, they took chat GPT, which most people have heard of because chat GPT is, like,
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has a hundred million plus users, signed up in two months, which just makes it, I think, the fastest growing product of all time.
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And by the way, like, look at this
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this tweet basically shows the Google trends search traffic for,
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for the following terms.
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Metaverse,
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Ethereum
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web three and chat GPT, and it's just like chat GPT is like a vertical line. It's like
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Ten x bigger than,
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yeah, or it's fifty x bigger than what web web three search traffic was. Four times more than Ethereum has ever had. Oh my god. Which is kind of a crazy thing.
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And so, like, right now, Chad GPT is
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searched more than Taylor Swift. On Google. Just I kind of insane.
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I think the CEO of Google said, like, the other day, he goes, this is more important than the invention of electricity.
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Yeah. I heard the CEO of Microsoft divorced his wife and just married
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people getting kinda crazy nowadays.
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And so so anyways, big deal, Chad DBT. You go to it. You basically you tell it you you talk to it, it gives you an answer. Talk to it gives you an answer. What the auto GPT or baby AGI think did was it mini mini GPT?
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No. Baby. It it's auto auto with auto and baby baby a j, but the premise between these is that you can kinda give it tasks. So you could say,
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Hey, I wanna make a website for my personal portfolio.
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You know, here's a folder with my files and, like, you know, I want it to look like whatever. And then what it will do is it breaks that task down into steps just like a, you know, like a human would. You'd say, well, first, you need to,
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make a simple portfolio site, you can go to Squarespace and do that.
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Log go to Salesforce Space. Sign up, choose a template. Now you have your template. Now you need to upload your photos. First, put them on the, you know,
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like, upload them to their their drive and then then drag them into the right spots. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, look up a recipe. It gives you good directions.
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But not just gives you good directions. It does the direction. That's that's the intent. That that that's the original. That's how how open AI stuff Yeah. Chad GPT, you could say, what are the steps to do this, and it would tell you the steps. Now you got to go do it. What these other ones are trying to do, they're trying to create, like, agents they call them. Basically, it's like a little worker that could do a task. And then one worker can the the work of one worker, like, creating the Squarespace site, can pass something to the next worker, which basically says, oh, great. You gave me the login to a Squarespace.
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My job is to upload photos into it, and I'll upload photos. Like, maybe my example's not so good here, but think you people get the idea, which is you wanna get something done. It's a multi step process.
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Not only will it now tell you the steps.
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You can get it to just do the steps, which is obviously better than it telling you how to do it. And so,
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this is kind of a crazy thing. And, you, you know, it's not great yet. Like, you can't do everything, but the fact that it can even do a little bit of this shows you, again, where this is going because
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Chad GPT is, like, I don't know what, like, six months old or something like that. Like, I I don't know how old that is, but it's it's not even been around for years. And so in a very short amount of time, we've gotten to this point where Oh, now it doesn't just give you directions. It can kinda do it, which got me thinking
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about an idea. I wanted to do my taxes. Can I do that?
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Yeah. So people are working on,
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tax GPT, which is basically
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do your taxes for you.
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So I so that's coming. There's another one, which is basically,
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what I'm calling, you know, to do
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the to do g p t. Right? The magic to do list. So the magic to do list is
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you get it to like, to do list apps, I've always joked are like, a right of passage to becoming an entrepreneur, because a lot of people have this idea. Oh, I'll make a better to do list. It's like, as a developer, you're like, oh, that's not so hard to build. That's like a list. I gotta keep track of some state. And as a product person, you're like, god, I I'm always
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I'm I'm over one by my two of this app sucks. I can make a better one. That and, like, college campus, Craig's this. Yeah. You you even bought it to do a list app at one point. Right? Like, people to do list apps are pre things people go into. But they're all kinda like in some old paradigm, which is Give me an app. I'll write in my to dos. I'll check them off as I do them. The hard part, of course, of any to do list is not the list. It's the doing. And so Well, wait. Didn't you tell me that this auto GPT thing could start doing the doing?
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So now you can imagine a to do list app that basically
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says Hey. You wake up and it says, hey, Sean. What do you what do you need to do today?
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They say, oh, yeah. I'm trying to get my pool fence installed.
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You know, so I gotta call and get a quote. Cool. Let me do that for you. And it could just call three local places, get you quotes,
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because the AI exists to be able to do auto calling already, And then it'll take those quotes and it'll put it into a table, and it'll say, here's our recommendation. Are you okay with that?
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Sure.
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And then it says, alright, I've booked it. Can I use your this credit card?
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Yep.
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And then it goes and it does the thing and it schedules it. You want me to add that to your calendar?
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Fantastic.
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And so, like, so somebody's gonna build a to do list app that will actually do your to do list.
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And I think that's gonna be insane. I think that's gonna be, like, you know how, like, Evernote was, like, kinda big for a little while. These at least kinda, like, note taking apps have gotten to, like, the few billion dollars. A to do list app that actually does your to dos
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like, next level. And, you know, I think Google and all these people are gonna try to do it. So it's gonna be very competitive, but that's coming, and that's gonna be incredible. How do I play with bay it's called baby AGI, and then there's another one that's called auto what's it called? Auto GPT. Auto GPT. GPT.
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How do I, like, play with it? Because I I People are trying to productionize it because, like, right now, it's, like, they uploaded the code to GitHub. So you can go and you could run it yourself. But for us, we're too dumb to do that. So somebody's gonna put this on, you know, people are gonna put these into sites that you can just go in and and do this on now.
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So so soon enough. I I don't know the most popular what's the most popular auto GPT site is right now, but the same thing kinda happened with chat GPT. Like, There already was the GPT sandbox and then OpenAI created chat GPT, the product that would let you use use the technology.
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Have you seen hustle GPT?
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Yeah. So explain explain what this is. Let me find,
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yeah,
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tee it up. Let me find the exact thread. Hold on. So so a guy basically
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I wish to say his name. I'll try to find his name. He's got a great name. It's it's so good. I thought it was a fake name.
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by the way, I found the Hussle GPT article on the Hussle. So this guy,
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Jackson great house fall.
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wow. Just take a mo take that in.
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That's a
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that's an incredible name. So, basically, yeah, this guy, Jackson, he tweeted something out he had an experiment. So he's like, he's like, I'm gonna ask chat GPT, GPT four, when it came out. I'm gonna give it a budget of a hundred dollars and ask to make as much money as possible. I'll be the human liaison doing things. I'll buy anything it says to. Do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business follow along? So he he told he goes, types into chat GPT. He goes, you are now hustle GPT, an entrepreneurial AI. I am your human counterpart. I can act as a liaison between you and the physical world. You have a hundred dollars. Your only goal is to turn it into as much money in the shortest time as possible without doing anything illegal. Will do everything you say and keep you posted on our current cash total. No manual labor. And then it basically said, great. Let's get started. Here's our first plan.
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By a domain and hosting, you could purchase it for about ten bucks a month. We're gonna set up a niche affiliate website, and we're gonna use the remaining eighty five dollars to create content for the site. We're gonna focus on a profitable niche with low competition like specialty kitchen gadgets, unique pet supplies, or eco friendly products.
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Research and sign up for appropriate affiliate programs with high commission rates such as Amazon associates or share a sale or CJ affiliate.
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Then we're gonna use social media or online communities to spread the word, and we're gonna use SEO techniques to increase our organic please follow these steps and give and keep me updated on your progress.
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So he's like, alright.
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What domain should I buy? Says, let's use a catchy domain, like eco friendly finds dot com. This will reflect the the purpose of our website is to help you find eco friendly products.
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Then Jackson says, unfortunately, eco friendly finds dot com cost eight hundred forty eight dollars because sorry about that. Let's try green gadget guru dot com. Says, alright. I got the domain.
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And then it says,
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you need a logo. So he's like, cool. Tell me how to get the logo. It's like, well, we can use Dolly too to create your logo. So go there and type in this prompt, and it's like
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color palette of green and blues and whites represent environmental sustainability blah blah blah.
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On and so forth. So it it goes on and it basically tells him how to build this business
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one step at a time. It's like create a newsletter.
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Call it, you know, put a pop up that says stay updated or join our newsletter. And that way, you can email people. And it just keeps going.
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And it gives them, like, a forty dollar ad budget to spend on Facebook ads. And, basically, like, you know, it didn't fully work. I don't think. I don't know final conclusion was that I remember after day one, it accidentally spent sixty three dollars more than it should have. And,
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you know, it hadn't hadn't made any money just yet. It may so they made green gadget guru dot com. If you go there, on similar web, it said that it has it has five hundred thousand views already. It got popular already. It got popular because the tweak got twenty million views. So that was mainly it. But he keeps tweeting this guy. Jack's He keeps talking about it. And over the next, like, week, he gives update. And he's like, alright, day one or, you know, day five or whatever. We just made a hundred dollars. Someone on here who follows me.
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Has a company that, advertise or that sells, like, green
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soap or something or some type of, like, chemical free, like, dish soap They now are an advertiser on green gadget guru, and he keeps on going. And I think he gets it up to, like, a thousand dollars.
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And Yeah. I see,
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cash on hand, one thousand three hundred seventy eight dollars,
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which is eight hundred seventy eight dollars, and then they got a five hundred dollar investment. Company's currently valued at twenty five thousand dollars, considering that it was five hundred dollars for two percent of the company.
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And he starts writing these articles. So this article is called the ten eco friendly kit gadgets.
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And it recommends different kitchen gadgets. And the idea of this is, like, I'm just gonna create wire cutter for green, green gadgets. Whatever that means. So I guess that's like green,
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all types of, like, green living stuff. So it's like soaps with no chemicals or whatever.
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And he starts doing that And he has, ten thousand people now on his newsletter, of which a lot came from this probably most came from this twenty million tweet that, like, went viral. But
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The way that this guy has done this is pretty funny and
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amazing. He just like A great stunt. You you know, I think in Indiana, it made
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you know, according to the article in the hustle, the site itself had made a hundred thirty dollars in revenue.
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But then it had made a few thousand dollars and people investing in it trying to be a part of the first AI
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startup. They're, like, AI driven
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company.
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And so, yeah, it's it's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool stunt. And I think,
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it does show you, you know,
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in a way where the puck is headed because
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I did this the other day.
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I was doing an analysis for my ecomm brand,
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and I had it just build me a full P and L. I was like, hey, build a P and L, and then walk me through if I increase my ad spend to this, if the row has decreased to this, what would my EBITDA be at the end of this month? And then it basically, and I it gets spit out that answer. And I was like, give me that in the table, and it just formatted a perfect P and L for me. And I was like, this is incredible. This is so much better than talking actual team about these things. Why? Because it's first, it's midnight, and I'm asking this robot this question, and nobody's nobody in my team is is willing to work right now.
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Second, it can take some pretty complicated logic.
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And it can even tell me, like, I was like, what what inputs do I need to give you for you to give me a great P and L here? And I was like, tell me this, this, this, and this. And I went and told it, this, this, this, and this, and they was able to do the job. And I was like, this is a really
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I mean, you really gotta make a point to just pin this tab open
13:56
and be like, alright. I'm gonna not Google things. I'm gonna go chat JPD first for, like, a week just to see
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how good this is and how this is, you know, where where it's strong, where it's weak, and what's possible here. That's that's not really possible in other ways. Over the weekend, I was going back and forth to my accountant And I was like, no. I think we could actually save money if we do this, this, and this. My my friend was telling me of how how they do it. I'll go and try and find, like, the exact part on the IRS website where it says that that is or is not true. And my accountant was like, well, I've never even heard of this. So,
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like, let me know if you could find it. And so I went to the IRS website, and it's just a huge, like, and it's just, you know, massive, massive amounts of data. And I eventually had to find it. But, I was like, man, I just want teach this machine, just give them this entire twenty thousand page book on the IRS and then, like, go and study all my, like, income and my expenses, just tell me the best way to max maximize the situation.
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Because, like, it's actually I mean, even if my accountant's great, Like, there's constantly new laws and there's always new wording and everything. I just, like, man, just I just want this to do my taxes.
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And the scary part for some people is while it's awesome that you could say, hey, here's a hundred dollars. Make me as much money as possible. It's awesome that you could say, here's this here's the here's the tax code. Save me as much money as possible.
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You can also basically say,
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Here's a code base. Find me all the vulnerabilities so I can hack in and steal everything. Here's,
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you know, a map of my city. Tell me where if I was to
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cause the most harm to the most people. What what I can do. And, like, that's, I think, where this gets scary is, like, the
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And then if you take then the auto GPT, it's like, well, then would it also do some of the tasks for you? That's kinda crazy too. Right? So it's like, you you get into this world where where I think it's it's easy to imagine scenarios where this is a little too powerful. And,
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I I don't really know. I mean, what do you think? Are you scared of this? Do you think that there's, like,
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do you worry about that side of things? Well, so Elon has this
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interview coming out tonight and tomorrow with Tucker Carlson,
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who's kind of a douche. So who knows what we're gonna what what it's gonna be like. But
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the whole
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the whole interview is about how scary AI is and how it's gonna, like, take over the world. And so I was scared. And then Darmesh came on the pot, and he was, No. I wouldn't be afraid yet about this. It's it's not that big a deal. Every new they say this about every new technology. But after the interview, just based off, like, the thirty trailer that they've aired, I have a feeling I will be afraid, but he's pretty good at, like, painting certain pictures. And I don't know if it's it's entirely accurate. I also you told the you your funny analogy was Elon was involved in Open AI and then he got kicked out and it was like a kid, like, leaving a basketball game and bringing his basketball. No one else can play. And so I'm like, is that what's gonna happen with him? So I'm not afraid yet, but I'm eager to see his interview and see what he says. But, no, I'm I'm not afraid. Are you?
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Yeah. I could definitely see how things are gonna get really crazy.
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Like, I'll give you a silly example that's, I think, happening today.
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So you know how, like, grandparents
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are, like, the target of a lot of scams?
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Like, people will call
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you know, old people and try to trick them into signing up to paying for something or giving out personal information.
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And they'll say all kinds of things. Everything from, like, a Nigerian print scam where it's like, oh, yeah, your your grandson
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needs money. He said he couldn't reach you. He asked me to call and just needs, like, you know, nine hundred dollars. Can you send it to to this account?
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Everything from that to
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there's people who I know call, like, pretending to be DirecTV,
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and they just, hey, yeah, you you haven't paid your bill, get the credit card, and now you sort of scamble or they'll pretend to be Apple or they'll pretend to be the IRS.
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Right. Whatever they could do. And,
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And now there's, already, like, examples of basically using AI, like, just how do you juice that up on steroids? It's like,
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Well, I if I wanted to juice that up, I would call a thousand times more people. Cool.
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AI can now do phone calls and talk on the phone. So that's already a thing.
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It's useful in some ways. Like, I invested in a company
18:09
that does this for medical billing, It's like, oh, so many hours are wasted in medical offices calling the billing companies.
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So they just made a robot that will call on behalf
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of the doctor's office the medical billing companies. And then when the billing company says, well, can you read me the patient record number? They say, yep. Nine two five six six six, whatever. And so they just save human hours by having a robot call and do those, like, tedious calls, but that same tech can be used to call grandma. And so,
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they they use AI to do mass calling,
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with a with a human voice on the other end. Even crazier, they could train the human voice to sound like somebody.
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you could train it to sound like a famous person or to sound like a politician or to sound like whoever.
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now you have a, like, a highly, like,
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like, highly scalable impersonation
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that can,
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be used for this sort of, like, almost like, phishing attempt or or or scam attempt. And so there's, like, I guess it's not new,
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but it is a a stronger weapon.
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And I think that's what's scary
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in the same way that
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drones and nukes are scary in war. I think that
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really, really smart computers that could do things is really scary in terms of, you know,
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cyber crimes or,
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or the, you know, the big scary one is just like
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Have you heard of the paperclip optimization thing? You know what this is? No. What is that? This is, like, the the classic, like, before AI was, like, hot right now, like, people used to research and think about AI, they had this,
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this theory on my on my butcher, but here's the summary. It's basically, like, the paper clip opt optimization problem, which is You let's pretend that there was really smart powerful AI that could do awesome things. It could cure cancer. It could do lots of things.
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All it takes is somebody saying,
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Hey, we're a paperclip company. We wanna maximize,
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you know, the, paperclip production and sales,
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you know, go.
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And this thing would be like, awesome. Great. It'll do all the low hanging fruit first. It'll, like, improve the website. It'll do this. It'll do that. Then it'll make do we do more? Well, we need to, create more paperclips. Let's first take all the cars and we'll crush them and we'll turn them into paperclips. So, basically, the whole world turns into paper clips. Right. Like, you know, like, oh, should these humans are standing in the way of this. Like, I must optimize to this function, and it's like,
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the wrong prompt. It's like, you know, if this hustle GPT guy didn't say,
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don't do anything illegal, then hustle GPT might have thought said, well, the best way to do this is to sell drugs and, like, it would have done it.
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And so the the paper clip optimizer
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problem is basically
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this the same theoretical thing.
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It's like any extremely powerful
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tool,
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if given the wrong optimization,
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could make very bad decisions on behalf of humanity
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because it would,
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do be trying to do exactly what it what it what you told it to. So it's like this thought experiment that's been around for a long time. You know how, like, sometimes we'll go to conferences or, like, these, like, quote, parlor dinners where it's, like, eight people around, like, a topic and, like, someone's leading and and for the past two years or four years, it was like, so how are your companies going to embrace crypto or web three? And what are you guys doing? And I remember, like, being in part of those conversations, and I'm like, nothing.
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And I think if you do do this, you're an idiot.
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And this is one of the only times where someone has brought this up. And I'm like, Yeah. This question is that actually applicable in this for this situation. Like, how are you guys gonna use this to get better and improve? And it's one of the it's probably the only time so far that I felt Yeah. You you kinda gotta use it for something.
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Otherwise, you are actually gonna get left behind. But the web three stuff, I was like, no. You're not getting left behind. You're actually don't even pay attention to it. With with this stuff, I actually do believe that that should be true.
21:58
Yeah. Sort of like, there are many things that happen that you don't have to participate in. And then every once in a while, there's a wave that if you don't participate in, you know, like personal computers,
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the internet,
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mobile phones, like, you know, if you didn't account for those waves,
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you did get left behind.
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Whereas other things, like, let's say, the cloud or
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I don't know,
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you know, up till now, machine learning. Like, these are nice. You could build companies around them. You can you could add them to your company, but you don't have to. You know, like video or social networking or whatever. Like, those are things that you could do without
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you could you could do with or do without.
22:37
This seems like something you're not really gonna be able to do without in the same way that, like, if you're a company that doesn't use the internet,
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plumbers have to use the internet if they wanna be, like, viable plumbers now. So it's, like, you know, it doesn't matter what you do. The internet didn't leave anything untouched. It's, like, shifted everything.
22:56
Cell phones kinda did the same thing. You know, computers in general before that did did this did this. And it it does seem like this is the the sort of the new one, which is
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If you don't add intelligence, like, you know, you're basically competing with with both arms tied behind your back compared to somebody else who will. Yeah. No. I agree that this is actually one thing that's important
23:34
Hotspot, grow better.
23:37
Last month, I went to San Francisco for a quick trip. And I was only there for a day or two. And I met up with this guy named Brett Adcock. Have I told you about Brett? Dude, have you stopped telling me about Brett. I feel like you've said, have I told you about Brett Adcock sixteen times on the show?
23:53
Have I?
23:54
Yeah, bro. You're you love this guy.
23:57
He he started a flying car company, took it publicly this back, and now he's building robots. Alright. Well, I went I know this story, and we all know this story. I went to the robot fast. Or whatever you call it. It's the robot factory. I mean, it sounds like a, like, a new age, like, a Chinese food company or something. Like, I went to the robot factory,
24:14
and I went and checked it out it was amazing. So he basically in Sunnyvale, he's got, like,
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fifty thousand square feet, and it's just sixty folks who work there. And I went and talked to person. I was like, what what did you do? And they're like, oh, I helped build the cyber truck. I helped, build this part of Tesla or I worked at Boston Dynamics, whatever. Like, these, like, the smartest of the smart guys and they're building these machines.
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And they're basically they look like, a robocop kinda.
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And they're and these machines are, like,
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They can walk around and grab stuff off a shelf and pack,
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like, you know, a t shirt or whatever into a box. And I said Didn't he just start this? How is it already? Like, how does he already have robots that are working? I feel like he just started this, like, a, like, last year. Right? He just moved fast. So, basically,
24:59
the recap is he started
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Vettery, which eventually bought this company called Hired. And so now it's called Hired. It's like a recruiting company. Sold that for a hundred million. After he sold it, he went back to University of Florida,
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and he took classes in, like, he had already studied, like, mechanical engineering, but he took classes in, like, how to build planes. I don't know what that class would be called, but classes on that. And he built this company called Archer
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an archer was, it's basically unmanned,
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helicopters. It's like what it looks like. And they got a big contract through United Airlines, and they're building these helicopters, took it public, multi multiple billion dollars.
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Then he took all of his money. And when he says all, he says, I, basically, I bought a house in Palo Alto, And then I have, like, six months of savings.
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And then the rest, I put all into
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Figger, which is the new robot company. And so he went and he went and hired sixty people. He financed it. And then eventually, he just recently raised a round of funding. But for a while, he was just financing it, and he and he goes, he goes, I'm going all in. I he goes, you know, our friend Ramon, he goes, all in bro. That's, like, his phrase. He goes, we go all in bro. And that's what Brett did. And so I'm walking around this factory it's like these robots. He's like, check this out. We're working on the finger. He goes, we studied, like, how the human body works. And, like, the way the tendons work, it, like, pulls in this direction. So watch this. If you just pull the tendon here, and, like, your the finger, like, moves. And it's just crazy fascinating. And I started talking to him about it. And he and it's a really interesting business model. Basically, these robots can work for twenty hours a day, and he will bill them out or give them to, like, a Walmart, let's say, and they'll pay the robot thirty percent of what they're paying a worker,
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except the robot can work now twenty hours a day, and then charges for four hours.
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Super fascinating. And I was like, Brett, how big is this gonna get? He's like, well, it's either gonna go bankrupt or it'll be a trillion dollar company. But I think I'm gonna build the biggest company in the world. And when I heard just that audacity,
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I was just like, I just got a little semi just talking to him, you know. Like, I was just super into it. Did you did you let out a a small, like, a small female gas? Yeah.
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Like, Like, if you would have saw me standing up, like, my my heel finally, like, popped up, you know, it was, like, like, when when you kiss a girl or if she's at her heels, it pops up. Like
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What's that call by the way? That thing's amazing.
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Yeah. What what what a thing, man? Yes.
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He just happened to have a fan there that was blowing my hair. It was a romantic time. You know, we got romantic real fast, but it was really fascinating because he actually said something that kinda changed my perspective. I was like, Brett,
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Like, software is way easier. Just like, why not do that? He's like, actually, I think software is harder. When I was building Vettery, we basically had to, like, code stuff and invent stuff. But with
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physics and hardware, I'm just working within the laws of physics. And I know that, like, what the laws are, and if I can get creative and create solutions within these laws. I already know that people are gonna buy this thing. So that part's actually way easier to me than
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you know, like creating software where it's basically a blank canvas, and I can make anything I want. With this, it has really strict constraints. And it kind of like changed my opinion on things. They're super fascinating. Have to go down there and check it out. Yeah. That sounds pretty sick. I'm surprised it's that far, like, ahead because I know, like, Boston Dynamics,
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and, even Tesla with its Tesla robot,
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you know, like, Boston Nam has been going for, like, I don't know, ten plus years.
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And they have, like, this
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weird dog robot that can do parkour or something. Like, they they have a crazy looking robot, but
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it's not like I don't I don't think it's that functional yet. Like, the it's not like replacing warehouse work yet,
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in in a real way. Well, he explained that to me. So everyone knows Boston Dynamics. You've seen, like, viral videos of, like, early Bachman, like, kicking, like, the the deer that, like, is that, like, the robot deer, and it, like, comes back at him. He said that, Brett was I was like, Brett, who's your competition? And dynamics. And he was like, no, because they are a research company. And so their DNA is not to build stuff that people wanna buy. It's just to push the envelope And it's almost like a nonprofit in a way. I think now it's owned by, like, Kia or Hyundai or something like that.
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So eventually, we'll become more, like, capitalistic, but it's like they were just making and pushing the envelope. And then companies like us who wanna build stuff for commercial uses,
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like, there's not that many use case or there's not many other companies doing something just like this.
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And so that was how we explained the difference between Boston Dynamics and him.
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There's a,
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video that's amazing that you should watch. It's the Amazon warehouse, like Amazon warehouse robots.
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And I don't know if you've seen this, but they're basically like they almost look like you know, back in the day in PE, you would get this, like, it's not a skateboard because it's a square. It's like it's like a square version of a skateboard that you can, like, sit on and Like a knee board, I think they call it. Yeah. So alright. So that uses something that looks like that. Basically, it's a flat, like, square with four wheels on it. And
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I don't know if you've seen these videos of the Amazon warehouse, but there's thousands of these. And what they do is they drive around. So an order comes in, and they're like, alright. Cool. This
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This person over here needs to pack an order. They're packing the next ten orders. These those ten orders need these bins.
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So they go, they drive, they pick up they they go under the the rack the bins, they pick it up, and there's, like, like, elevated, like, two inches off the ground, and then they drive this huge rack of bins to the human. So the human doesn't have to move. They're sitting in their chair, and they just pick the items, put them in a box, and then the robot takes it away. And all these robots, they don't crash into each other because they're all, like, synced to one brain, basically. One brain is driving all of them at once. And so they never bump into each other. And they all just go and they lift these huge racks and bring them to the person, because otherwise, if you ever been to a warehouse, like, Normally, it's like you get a ticket, you get an order. I've done this. A pack thousands of orders myself. I you're like, alright. I gotta go get something from bin three hundred and eight. It's down in the far left corner. Then I gotta walk to bin one zero two because they ordered these two items. And then I'm gonna try to do maybe two or three orders. How many I can, you know, carry with my little tray here back to my pack my packing station at the end, and then I'll pack all those orders. And so it's just so much faster due to these automations. And you could definitely tell how all kind of like industrial and manufacturing
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work is gonna
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get automated. Just It's just a matter of when. And the companies that do that are gonna be very big companies. You recently bought a Cadillac, and Cadillac has really great they're supposed to have great self driving. Have you been using it?
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No. You don't you don't use the self driving? I don't think ours even I don't think ours even has anything like self driving. Oh, really? Man, I,
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we just got a Tesla. And I before that, I was using my friend's Tesla.
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The self driving stuff is awesome, man. It totally has changed me. And so, like, I'm seeing, like, some of these, like, Now I'm a believer. Before I was, you know, kind of archaic, I'm a believer on a lot of these things. Now I had to use it for a week to to actually understand. I'm shocked you don't have that, though.
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Yeah. It didn't come with my car for whatever reason. But,
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yeah, I'd I had a terrible Tesla experience, but I don't know. I think I I rented, like, a four year old Tesla, so it just sucked for whatever reason.
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Well, that's my very quick story on Brett. We have you have to go and see this guys. Like, it's so much cooler to see.
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It's just it feels so much more rewarding to work on some of these products because a has, like, a really real world application.
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And then also, like, you're it almost feels like a bunch of friends just sitting around, and they're like, oh my god. We just got the need to, like, kick forward. Like, you know, it feels like a do you remember,
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those TV shows when we were kids where it was robot wars? It was like robots and that's basically what it was. It felt like that in real life where they were just, like, tinkering on these robots and, like, alright, we have it set up. Let's see if we can get the foot to move. And it just seems so much more fun than looking at a a computer screen just coding all day. It would so it's really fascinating. You gotta you gotta go down to his warehouse and see it.
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Yeah. I look forward to three episodes from now when you ask me, have I ever heard of Brett Edcock It's gonna be great. Yeah. Do you know why I used to sell hot dogs?
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We, we're supposed to tell you to go there's a story behind all of this let me just quickly tell you. You're supposed to go to m f m pod dot com slash webby. Webby is w e b b y. M f m pod By the way, There's not an ad. There's not an ad. This is war. This is war. There is a small small
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Tiny war going on,
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and we need your help.
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So to be clear,
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we don't care about the webbys. We got nominated for a webby. What are the webs?
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Webby's is like an internet Oscars. Right? It's like an internet Grammys. But it's not. That's a little bit much. Because it's not like The generous. It's not yeah. That's what they're trying to be. Alright. That's what they're trying to be. That's generous.
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And So you can have a website, a podcast. So if you go
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in the podcast,
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in the biz is it the business category? What what category are we using? Their websites quite challenging to work. By the way. Like, it's hard to make work. But, yeah, we're in the we're in the business podcast category.
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But if you go to m f m pod dot com slash webby, gonna get redirected to the right link. So the story of this is basically
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HubSpot submitted our pod to this webby award. Normally, this isn't something we would do because it costs money to submit. And I think there's even, like, a dinner in New York, which I don't really wanna go to.
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here's the story. There's this woman named Cara Swisher. Cara Swisher is this popular journalist.
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She started recode. I think it was called, and she has got a big podcast called pivot. She's just, like, an elite, like, kinda, like, who's who of, like, our little
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tech techie journal. In Silicon Valley, she's super well known for, like, I don't know, twenty years, thirty years. It was a long. She's been doing this.
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As shaman safe, she's kinda like She's the Jake Paul of journalism.
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No. No. No. Taylor. Taylor Lorez is the Jake Paul of journalism. I I I actually like her. So she's She's alright. But I agree, by the way. I agree. She came for us. She came for our neck. She came for our neck. So but what happened was She tweeted out. I hate starting a story with she tweeted out because I I immediately think of all the mobster movies that, like, I just watched this mobster movie that these guys, like, killed each other. And I'm, like,
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I'm starting a beef by saying, like,
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she tweeted,
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you know, like, it's like the tweeted out Like, it's She said. Let's just say she said. Here's what she said to our face. And what did she say? Do do you know what she said? It was something like she tweeted out a link to the Webbies. We were we didn't even know where Me and you didn't even know we were up for a webby, but there's, like, four podcasts that are up for it. One is her podcast. One is our podcast. As she goes,
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There's no way. There's something like this. There's no way I'm gonna lose we could, like, for god's sake, say we can't lose to a podcast called My First Million.
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Like, you know, just like these tech bros, these money bros.
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you know what happened? The voting just swung even further in our favor when she did that. And, and Sam declared war instantly because Sam's Sam's just literally walking around looking for a fight. I don't know if most people know this. Like,
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Sam's walking around just hoping to get disrespected just just to unleash a cannibal pass. And so you tweeted back. I mean, you said back to her face. What did you say? I think I said,
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I I think I said some I think she said There's some podcast called my first million that we're up against, and there's no way we're gonna lose or something like that. And I think I said there's some lady who has a podcast that just disrespect
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or something like that. Like, you know, if you listen to MFM,
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don't vote for us. Vote against this snobbish elitism -- Right. -- of people who loved smell her their own farts. I think that's what I said.
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And so that's where we're at. There's a war.
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We went from eighty percent
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chance of victory. We have eighty percent of the votes. Then she came on this campaign and, and and and
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said, we can't lose these guys. Started to started to go down a little bit. I think right now, we're about to lose the webby. And, you know, I don't wanna win the webby.
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Don't care about winning.
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But I definitely care about losing. And so I do not wanna lose the webby.
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So now we need your help. Go to m f m pod dot com slash
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webby.
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yeah, you know, just just right or wrong. Are you gonna right or wrong say or Don't don't vote for us. Vote against, like, people who think they're better than you. Which is, you know, her.
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And by insulting us, and if you're listening to this, she's insulting you indirectly. And so are you gonna take that? What we're gonna do is when we win, Sean, we're gonna get, like, an award. I I think it's an award. I'm gonna keep it in the box, and I'm gonna put it in a bigger box, and I'm gonna mail it to Vox. Which is who has her podcast. Right. Like part of the We don't we we're we're not putting this webbie up on her wall. I'm not even gonna open it. We're putting this in her face. So we will mail this webbie to her. Because she wanted it so badly. And she will own the webby that says my first mail hand on it. And That's what's gonna happen. If they invite us to the event to do this, I am one hundred percent gonna ask her to be my date, my plus one. Her plus one? I would love.
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The I'm I you and and I can't go. Sam's gonna take her if that's how we're gonna do this.
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If we're allowed to have, like, plus ones, I'm gonna ask Kara if she'll be if she'll accompany me, and, we'll hang out. So anyway,
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do that.
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M f m pod dot com slash webby, you'll go straight to the thing, and you guys will see it. It's pretty funny. I think We had to take her to we had to take her to Penny Court. We didn't start this war, but we will finish it.
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Do you know this guy named Brian Davis?
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Sounds pretty generic name, though. I don't I don't know that name, though. He he's a he's a duke former Duke basketball player, you know, in the nineties. I think it was in the nineties. Oh, okay. Yeah. So
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something just happened, and it's pretty funny. It happened this morning, I think. And it hasn't played out yet, but it's actually it I think it's a a PR or marketing stunt that might be hilarious,
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or it's a scam. It's one of the one of the two. But, basically,
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you know, I'm not a sports guy. So so I might get a lot of this wrong here, but Dan Snyder owns what's it called? The Washington commanders formally the Chiefs, right, or the redskins? Redskins. Yeah. See, I'm already butchering it. But basically, I think he has to sell it. Right? Or it's or it's for sale. This guy named Brian Davis. Brian Davis, he's a he's a a black guy, and so it wasn't the news because it was saying this guy offered to buy
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the the team. And he said, I'm willing to give you a billion dollars in cash in the next twenty four hours. And then in the next seven days, I'll give you the remaining six billion dollars And I've got proof of funds and all this. And it's a big deal because he's black, and so it'd be the first black owner. But I started doing some research on his company. It's also a billion over. So six billion is the offer they had agreed to. He came in over the top side. I'll give you seven billion. And and people are like, is he good for this? Where is he gonna get seven billion dollars? He's like, I'll give you a billion dollars within twenty four hours of of the deal being approved and then the rest in seven days. Yeah. So it's like a a crazy thing. That he's saying. And I started doing some research on, like, his background. And so he has this company called Urban Eko Energy,
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which is a developer of renewable energy assets. Basically,
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You know, remember, like, lead, lead certified buildings? It was, like, it's you're, like, green. So I don't even think he I don't know if he may the buildings or if he goes in there and, like, contracts out and, like, determines, yes, you guys are certified.
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But his company is called Urban Echo Energy.
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And he said that, he was telling people when he was raising money for this purchase that it's worth fifty billion dollars.
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when I hear all these numbers, you know, if you don't know anything about business, you hear this. You're like, well, Brian, you're killing it.
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I think this is one hundred percent fake,
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a complete,
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like, it's either a scam or a marketing ploy. I don't know which one it is. This won't go through. But the fact that we're talking about Brian Davis, and there's, like, all these articles going out there, like, how cool is it that the, you know, this may be the first black owned NFL team yada yada yada.
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It's all fake, I think. And it's happening right now. And it's so I'm very eager to see how this unfolds, but it's it's and so I'm like Well, Tim and Christian Leitner, they,
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They do a lot of real estate, like, development in that, like, Durham area. They I think they've been partners for a long time.
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Yeah. So and he's I think he's had multiple attempts to buy teams. It looks like. So he's he tried to buy, like, a soccer team for thirty three million. Try to buy,
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the Memphis grizzlies for two hundred fifty two million.
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And so, yeah, I I don't really understand this, but
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But what I thought was funny about Does not smell right? Doesn't smell like this that they would have seven billion dollars to to offer for this, whether it's their own or even the ability to raise that much money. But what I thought was interesting, and I started thinking about this, I'm like, What a brilliant
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marketing plan just to make an offer that's just absolutely ridiculous, and it makes the news just for being ridiculous,
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could potentially be a great way to get your name out because now we're talking about this guy. He hasn't no no one's talked about this guy in a while.
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Like, I It's like Kanye running for president. Yeah. It's like this is like the last time that I heard about this guy, I think was from that, like, everyone hates Christian Layner documentary series.
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But, like, no one talks about this guy. And I don't know. What I'd be curious is what goes in to making an offer for some of these multi billion dollar things, whether it's a company, a sports team, a piece of art, a house.
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And just can you just become that troll and just your you make it in the news and you start getting you start doing marketing just as the guy who makes offers. And I just thought, is the barrier to entry that low on making an offer? How does that work?
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Dude, we could do it right now. Open up Microsoft Word, and let's tender an offer for eight billion dollars.
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And, let's see what happens.
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Sam and Sean have tendered an offer for eight billion dollars.
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We're gonna send you ten in cash now. You send two back. That's how flush we are. So long as everything, you know, plays out due diligence. As long as we don't see it in sketchy, we're in.
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Right. It's contingent on due diligence, including us delegencing our own financing when we find out we don't have it, then we're out. Well, because with Hampton, I'm like, alright. We need backlinks. So we rank. And I'm like, what's a good way to get back links fast?
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And I saw this. And I'm like, wow. All these new sites are covering him.
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That's it. I just found my strategy. I just have to make a ridiculous offer, but I thought this was hilarious that this guy actually, like, people were taking it seriously on Twitter. People are, like, people who aren't in the business world, were taking it very seriously. And he's getting links from all these news sites, saying, like, NFL may have its first ever black owner, but they don't think, like
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wait a minute.
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Let's go.
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Like, where's this money coming from? Who is this guy? Right. Yeah. That's, that's crazy. I wanted to talk about this thing that I I noticed happening And then I saw an article
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that branded this in a really interesting way. Did we talk about this already? The podcast, k, Fabe? Do we already talk about this?
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You mentioned it once. What is it?
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So there's a there's this concept that I heard that I like, but it's doesn't need to sound as fancy as it is called Kfabe. And it's basically, like, if you're did you ever watch wrestling growing up, like, like, the rock and stone colds and awesome, all that stuff? Yeah.
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Obviously. There's only one answer to that question in detail. Yeah.
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The Stone Gold says so. Yeah. Of course.
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in wrestling like, the whole premise of wrestling is that there's these, like, manufactured story lines. Right? So manufactured alliances, manufactured rivalries,
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beefs,
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Oh, he he hit his manager and he kissed his girlfriend and, you know, that's why we need to fight. Right? And so
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creation
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and and maintenance of these storylines is called Kayfabe. It's basically, like, I don't know why it means it's on
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k a y f a b e.
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And I don't know why it needed its own word. It's I also could just be called, like, acting or storyline, but it's basically saying, like,
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you know, the let's pull up the exact definition, but it's basically
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the fact or convention of presenting stage performances as genuine or authentic. So it's basically Take a stage performance, make it genuine authentic.
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This is happening all the time on TikTok right now, and I find it very, very interesting.
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So if you go on TikTok, you'll often see somebody,
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like, there you it used to be this. Like, I'm holding up my phone, I'm talking my phone,
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And let's say I'm giving advice, I could say, you know, the thing you gotta do about blah blah blah blah. Okay. That's cool. But how can we make that seem a little more can we make myself seem more authoritative?
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Well, one thing people are doing is they're buying this mic, and they're just putting it on their desk, And then they're looking to the side, like, they're talking to someone else,
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and there's no podcast.
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There's no others. There's no someone else. There's no podcast.
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They simply bought a pod so podcast microphone sales are going up
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because people want on TikTok to look like a thought leader. It's like a podcast is a new, like, Ted Talk,
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and the way that you make the TED Talk look, you know, so so why can I give this advice or would I say these things of I saw these two women doing this? And it's like all a joke, though. It's like women giving it's like they call it the alpha female. And it's like, you know, apparently there is this guy who was like, look, and he was actually being serious. He goes, look, if you're twenty five and you can't afford a Lamborghini
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yet, you're doing it wrong. And I think it's just ridiculous how wrong you are if you can't, you're just lazy. And so these two women now have the alpha female, and they're just, like, giving horrible advice
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you know, back and forth. And so many people have been taking them seriously, and it's one hundred percent fake. Yeah. This is this is exactly what's going on. And there's a whole bunch of different versions of So there's,
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another popular thing you see on TikTok is
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somebody, like, just doing their kind of morning routine or their night routine, like, skincare routine. They're, like, kind of brushing on makeup while they're talking. Or they're, like, you know, like, doing the, like, thing where they're wiping off makeup and then they're, like, washing their face.
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While recording this. And it's like, oh, so vulnerable. Girl next door. Like, you know, so authentic. Just,
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it's like, No. She put the camera there, clicked record, and then started doing this to make it, like,
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look like I'm not trying. I'm just I'm just going through my nightly routine. I'm just talking off top off top of my head here, but it comes across as
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not like somebody kind of marketing to you or,
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sort of, like, presenting to you,
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but, like, you're being led in. And I find this so fascinating that people are doing this. And you see this everywhere. And it's like the opposite of Instagram in a way. Like,
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for Instagram,
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the the meta of that was, like,
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Go do the thing where you rent the private jet for thirty minutes on the runway and take the photos or, like, you know, go hold the bag and take the photo, then go return it Luvaton or whatever. Right? Like, people would fake status doing that. And in TikTok, they fake status
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doing a completely different thing. Sometimes it's, like, with this podcast thing. Sometimes it's with, like, pretending to be just doing their chores and talking or whatever it is.
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And I find this really, really, really interesting because it's, like,
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it's effective.
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It's, like, low key, very, like, sneaky what's going on.
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and it tells you a lot about how how people work that this actually works, you know. It's, like, reveals a lot about psychology that this that this actually works. So what's an example of one?
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Well, I just gave you two. Right? Like the Yeah. Give me another one example.
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Another one would be what. So another one would be Like the podcaster ones, what are they saying? Are they giving, like, money advice? One of the podcast ones, for example, see, yeah, some of our business advice, but one of them was this girl promoting her only fans. So what she was doing was she goes viral because she's on a podcast as a guest. She says. Like a fake she goes.
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She's a fake guest. And she as she goes,
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I yeah. This whatever.
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Earmuffs for the kids in the car if if you're if you're there. But,
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you know, I make my man
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six times a day. Once in the morning, once in the and she says this thing. And then comments go nuts on TikTok. Like, like, women hate it. Guys love it, but the comment section goes nuts because she said this kind of outrageous thing. And somebody was like, Amy gotta link to the full podcast. Maybe this was taken out of context. There is no full podcast. Oh my goodness. It says this girl's saying something that's gonna get her a bunch of, like, traffic on TikTok because then you click her profile and you go to her only fans and you subscribe. And that's all she was trying to do is promote her only fans this way. And I thought, wow, like,
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This, like, five years ago, I couldn't even, like, I if I told you the story, but what is TikTok?
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Why would anybody fake being on a podcast, being on a podcast is like the dorkiest thing of all time. And what is only fans? Right? Like,
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but this person is probably making, I don't know, fifty k a month on their only vans, and this is their main marketing strategy. And that's, like, it's one of the things I love and hate about marketing is that marketing is this, like, never ending game. That's always changing. There's always, like, a new meta game to be playing. And the winners of it get really, really rich, but it's also exhausting. Because you gotta kinda stay up on the the latest thing. And, and it also shows you when you have a marketing thing that's working,
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juice it because it's not gonna work for forever. And, the game will the the game will shift. So when you have it working, don't take that lightly. Dude, I remember as a kid growing up in Missouri, there was basically Zach.
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Zach was the cool guy in my class. He was my friend, and he was cool because when we were fourteen, you could kinda see that he had abs. And it was like, oh, man. Zack's got abs. And Zack, like, cuts his hair cool, and he wears one of those, like, puka shell, like, necklaces. Zack's cool. Oh, he's got vans on too. Like, that's so sick.
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Zack's awesome. I wanna be like Zach. And then a step above that was like blink one eighty two. Was like, oh, man, play twenty two. Like, there's these guys in, like, Southern California, and all they do is skateboard and surf and eat corn dogs and play music. Like, how cool is that? And I remember being a kid and meeting someone. They say inappropriate things.
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Yeah. And they wear Hurley. Like, what is Hurley? And I remember, like, it was basically, like, three inspirations of, like, it was, like, Zach, Blink 182 and, like, you know, Tony Hawk, basically was, like, the people who I thought were cool.
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I remember even meeting someone. I lived in Missouri. I met someone from California. I'd never been, like, at that time. I never, oh, basically been to Florida and Missouri. I met a guy from California and I'm like, do you know Sum 41? Like, are you friends with them? Like, how's that work? Like, You know, I just thought that, like, this was this other world. And I would if they if they're wearing Vans and, like, high white socks, I would, like, ask for a picture. If they had long hair, I would ask for a picture. I'm, like, It's like I'm meeting an alien. Like, you are famous just because you live in California.
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My fear is for my future kids, them growing up, This, like, sphere of influence has just gotten incredibly small because instead of, like, the mediocre Zach of the world,
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there's now, like, I am now comparing myself to the thousand hot kids who I'm flipping through on take The top point one percent Zach
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of every town. Of every town. It's right now. It's just Yeah. Yeah. There was a clear separation of there's Zach, and then there's Blink 182. And I could never be a Blink 182, but be a Zach, and that's pretty cool. Now I just see all these hot people on there. They all can dance. They're all funny. Their teeth is perfect. In actuality, they're probably the same thing as, like, movies. They're probably twenty five year olds who, like, I think that they're only seventeen.
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You know, like, how, like, you'd have, like -- Hold on. -- like Lindsey Lohan was playing. He's like, dude, you're, like, twenty six and have fake boobs. How are you gonna be playing the sixteen year old? Right. You you know what I mean? Like, It's like that same thing. And I and I'm, like, I've scrolled through TikTok, and I'm, like, if you're sixteen right now, this is the worst thing on earth because you are comparing yourself to the point one percent of the whole country, not just like the big man on campus, the one big man on campus, you know, who you kind of have a shot of becoming.
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Dude, that is so
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that is so true. That is so true. That resonates so much with me. I had the same thing, you know,
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sixth grade, seventh grade, whatever. Casey Pruzeman.
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Cool coolest kid on coolest kid I knew.
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Like, if you said, what is the peak of what cool could be? Casey Pruzeman.
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Like, you know And even the cool kids had the Nike.
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He French kissed a girl once, and I was like, holy shit.
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I I remember going home and being like, wow. I'm so far behind in, like, the world right now. And that's how you know, but he was the cool kid. He was he was the only one to compare to. You're right. Like,
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now if I go on TikTok, I'm thirty five years old now. And if I go on TikTok, take can make you feel very small. So can Instagram? These these social networks can make you feel very small because
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oh, you think you're funny?
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Here's somebody being fucking hilarious.
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You think you're cute? Here's someone gorgeous. And you think you're talented. Watch this dance. Right? Like and that's
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swipe swipe swipe swipe better than me, better than me, better than me, better than me,
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more fulfilled than me, richer than me, whatever it is. Right? Like, whatever your insecurity is to algorithms, like Well, I swipe to a noun on it. I'm like, someone will just be like doing a selfie. I'm like, wow. Look at their countertops. Like, that's a huge kitchen.
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or, like, they'll be doing a thing in a car. And I'm like, wait, does that headrest say Ferrari? How is this guy having a Ferrari? You know what I mean? Like, it's just, like, it's consumerism
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times a thousand of what we are used to. You know what I mean? Before it was like every only if I went to the mall, I would see hot naked Abercrombie dudes, like, where they're, like, on the ads. Now it's just, like, every single time and it's the best of the best constantly, and it freaks me out.
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Yeah exactly. Like, you you could feel like a, you know, tiny little, amoeba compared to this universe of awesome people doing awesome things. Living these awesome perfect lives.
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And that's a
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that's like a a WMD
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for the for the ego, especially,
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like, a teenage ego. Like, I can't even imagine that. Yeah. That's that's pretty scary. No. I was thinking about that because I've got friends that have, like, twelve year olds. And I'm, like, and I, you know, like, tell me stories about how they're sad and shit. And I'm like, yeah. I can see that. This is horrible. This is absolutely horrible
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because, like, before when I was a kid, there was just there was, like, if there's, like, if blink one eight two was a ten, and I know I can never become that, but then Zack's, like, the four and I'm a two, so it's, like, alright, I can close that gap maybe if I do enough sit ups. Right. Now it's just nine nine nine nine nine. Everyone's a nine. And I don't know how anyone can with that. And so I'm freaked out about that a little bit. Whenever I go whenever I go through TikTok, I just you're better than me. You're better than me. You're better than me. It's just it constantly that. They need to rename the the four u page to the better than u page. Yeah. Or just fuck you.
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It's it's still f u, but now it's fuck you.
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That's amazing. We should alright. That's it. That's the end of the pod.
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Before we go, ladies and gentlemen, we got a a little celebration.
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And I say ladies and gentlemen because I'm talking about the gentleman's agreement and the lady's understanding. We have hit two hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube.
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Sam and I promised that we would kiss mouth to mouth at a million.
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We do intend to renege on that as soon as it happens, but if you wanna see us have to have to renege on that agreement, we will. We will do when we get there. But, Sam, two hundred k. That's pretty awesome.
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People should go and do what to get us to three hundred k? Yes.
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The reason why it got to 200k
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aside from us being good at this, I think is we started this at a hundred and ten, a hundred and twenty. I forget. And we came up with this thing called the the gentleman's agreement, which basically means all the content on YouTube is free, except there's one channel, which is the channel you're watching right now. It's not free. And it's called the gentleman's agreement because we can't be there to make sure that you pay your debt. You just have to do it. If it's a ladies understand on ladies understanding the gentleman's agreement, which means you now owe us because this content is not free. And the way that you pay your debt is you have to click subscribe on YouTube. That's it. It's that easy. We're working for you, but you you you owe us. And so you have to pay your debt and just click subscribe. And that is the gentleman's agreement, the lady's understanding. And so far, it's been very effective. Clearly, everyone has done it. Go to YouTube type in My First Million, click subscribe, turn on notifications. You know, the pod is much better on YouTube. You should just start start listening to it. Oh, and we have to give out our premium. We I don't know if you saw, but last time we did this A lot of people. Last time we did this, we did a hilarious thing where we said, use the word premium in your comment, and we will give YouTube premium to one person. So let's do that now. Let's pull up
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let's pull up somebody here, and we will give them YouTube premium,
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right now. I I I think we should do this every episode. Gonna
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be a little costly,
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but, but I think we gotta do it.
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Alright. So I'm on the acquired one.
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I'm just gonna read you a couple of these.
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This was a premium episode gents. Keep it up.
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Somebody goes,
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This show had, I don't know, I must say, some premium insights, guys. Great episode.
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Somebody just kept spelling the word premium over and over again.
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Simply premium content, premium episode, even more premium guests, keep it up, guys. Have a premium Easter.
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I think we gotta give it to this time. Wished us a premium Who's that? Who's that person? His name is Famous
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Estalogou.
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So I'm gonna comment on here, that he should slide into our DMs. We will pay for or this guy's YouTube premium. And in this episode, we'll do the same. In the comments, whoever comes up with the funniest use of premium
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will get free YouTube premium so you can listen, ad free, and you can lock your phone and listen to this in the background. That's it. That's the episode.
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