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This one streamer who we're talking about, what's his name?

This one streamer who we're talking about, what's his name?

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XQC in this case. How much money does he make?

XQC in this case. How much money does he make?

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He probably makes between

He probably makes between

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I wanna say three to ten million dollars a year. No way. Really?

I wanna say three to ten million dollars a year. No way. Really?

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Yeah. Probably five to ten is is is a easy estimate.

Yeah. Probably five to ten is is is a easy estimate.

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Ten man ten is not even the upper bound. Like, they these guys can make much more than that. Maybe up to twenty, twenty five million if they are

Ten man ten is not even the upper bound. Like, they these guys can make much more than that. Maybe up to twenty, twenty five million if they are

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maxing out their stuff, but they don't always wanna do that. Like,

maxing out their stuff, but they don't always wanna do that. Like,

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I taught because I used to negotiate with these guys. So, you know,

I taught because I used to negotiate with these guys. So, you know,

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even before Twitch, like, when I was just trying to get them to promote our products, And it's like, alright, I'm gonna talk to I wanna talk to the streamer. Like, no. You don't get to talk to the streamer. You talk to the manager. Okay. Fair, that's fine. There's stars. I get it. Alright. Who's the manager? Is it like, you know, CAA or like, WME.

even before Twitch, like, when I was just trying to get them to promote our products, And it's like, alright, I'm gonna talk to I wanna talk to the streamer. Like, no. You don't get to talk to the streamer. You talk to the manager. Okay. Fair, that's fine. There's stars. I get it. Alright. Who's the manager? Is it like, you know, CAA or like, WME.

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And, like, for ninety five percent of them, it's, like, oh, it's, like, his little brother Ray Ray. Yes. I know his girlfriend are, like, you know, exactly. It's Ray Ray or, like,

And, like, for ninety five percent of them, it's, like, oh, it's, like, his little brother Ray Ray. Yes. I know his girlfriend are, like, you know, exactly. It's Ray Ray or, like,

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Hey, Jenny.

Hey, Jenny.

00:58

You know, so how long you guys been working together? It's like, well, we've moved in together at, like, when we were sixteen, and then, like, he didn't do anything for five years. Just play video games all the time. And, like, now he's rich. And so I quit my job to, like, check his email. This

You know, so how long you guys been working together? It's like, well, we've moved in together at, like, when we were sixteen, and then, like, he didn't do anything for five years. Just play video games all the time. And, like, now he's rich. And so I quit my job to, like, check his email. This

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is

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like,

like,

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the

the

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shirt.

shirt.

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It's

It's

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like

like

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It's like the

It's like the

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gen y or gen x, whatever the what are the young people now called? What are the young what are the what is the young people calling?

gen y or gen x, whatever the what are the young people now called? What are the young what are the what is the young people calling?

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It's like gen z. It's like the behead,

It's like gen z. It's like the behead,

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Tommy Bahama of gen z. Yeah. I was literally, I was about to start with the shirt. So you're on to something. What kind of what brand is that?

Tommy Bahama of gen z. Yeah. I was literally, I was about to start with the shirt. So you're on to something. What kind of what brand is that?

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Scotch and soda.

Scotch and soda.

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Yeah. See, Scotch and soda crushes it. They there was there was,

Yeah. See, Scotch and soda crushes it. They there was there was,

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two I was I went shopping this weekend and,

two I was I went shopping this weekend and,

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like, whatever the, like, union square in San Francisco,

like, whatever the, like, union square in San Francisco,

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and two dudes walked into the, elevator with their scotch and soda bags, and they were so happy

and two dudes walked into the, elevator with their scotch and soda bags, and they were so happy

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is, like, shopping makes people really happy. I think that's an underrated part of shopping is how happy it made them. And they were just, like, It was two guys, and they were talking to each other, and they were still talking about their shopping, which I would say I've never experienced that. Being another dude just

is, like, shopping makes people really happy. I think that's an underrated part of shopping is how happy it made them. And they were just, like, It was two guys, and they were talking to each other, and they were still talking about their shopping, which I would say I've never experienced that. Being another dude just

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First of all, going shopping together. Secondly, after shopping, not just being like, alright. It's done. Whatever. Like, we don't even talk about it anymore.

First of all, going shopping together. Secondly, after shopping, not just being like, alright. It's done. Whatever. Like, we don't even talk about it anymore.

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He he was like, I said, yeah. I'm really happy with the color. The guy said, yeah. The color's sick. And I was like, and I'm just in the elevator with them. And I was like, I was like, yeah. Is that moss green? That's

He he was like, I said, yeah. I'm really happy with the color. The guy said, yeah. The color's sick. And I was like, and I'm just in the elevator with them. And I was like, I was like, yeah. Is that moss green? That's

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This guy just said it was awesome. You shopped there? No. I didn't shop there. I was shopping for my wife, but,

This guy just said it was awesome. You shopped there? No. I didn't shop there. I was shopping for my wife, but,

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It's in the same, like, area, whatever. Like, the way you were shopping for her?

It's in the same, like, area, whatever. Like, the way you were shopping for her?

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Like, with her. She wanted to go buy. I thought she was trying to buy, like, a, like, a designer bag Which, by the way, it the whole experience is crazy. Have you ever done that? Have you ever gone with, like, a bullshit? You gotta make an appointment.

Like, with her. She wanted to go buy. I thought she was trying to buy, like, a, like, a designer bag Which, by the way, it the whole experience is crazy. Have you ever done that? Have you ever gone with, like, a bullshit? You gotta make an appointment.

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Yeah. Oh, well, now they they it's like a front now. Basically, they, you you go, you put your name down, they're like, we'll text you to get in. Like, you can't just walk into the store.

Yeah. Oh, well, now they they it's like a front now. Basically, they, you you go, you put your name down, they're like, we'll text you to get in. Like, you can't just walk into the store.

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Yeah. And,

Yeah. And,

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We go in, and it's like and I've got two babies and a dog with me. So I'm already, like,

We go in, and it's like and I've got two babies and a dog with me. So I'm already, like,

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you brought your dog to a Louis Vuitton store?

you brought your dog to a Louis Vuitton store?

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It's a it's a my stroller has two

It's a it's a my stroller has two

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children and a dog. They're probably like, sir, you can't come in here. You have to leave the kids outside. They straight up. I don't even think they saw the dog because the dog's so small and so quiet compared to the kids. They're like, I think that just got lost in the shuffle. Otherwise, they for sure would have kicked me out.

children and a dog. They're probably like, sir, you can't come in here. You have to leave the kids outside. They straight up. I don't even think they saw the dog because the dog's so small and so quiet compared to the kids. They're like, I think that just got lost in the shuffle. Otherwise, they for sure would have kicked me out.

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But we were like, hey, you know,

But we were like, hey, you know,

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we're here. We're here. And they were just like, okay. Why are you so It's

we're here. We're here. And they were just like, okay. Why are you so It's

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like, alright. Let's do this. And I was so excited just because I was like, alright, whatever. Make this an experience.

like, alright. Let's do this. And I was so excited just because I was like, alright, whatever. Make this an experience.

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And then, like, five minutes in, I became like, I went in with the best intentions. I was like, I'm gonna make this a great experience for my wife. She wants this. I I'm gonna not just play along. I'm gonna, like, be along. I'm gonna fucking sing along with this. And then, like, literally five to fifteen minutes in. I was just, like,

And then, like, five minutes in, I became like, I went in with the best intentions. I was like, I'm gonna make this a great experience for my wife. She wants this. I I'm gonna not just play along. I'm gonna, like, be along. I'm gonna fucking sing along with this. And then, like, literally five to fifteen minutes in. I was just, like,

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Alright. Like, just pick one.

Alright. Like, just pick one.

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It's a small one or the big one. I don't know. Which one do you like? Just pick the one you like. Because

It's a small one or the big one. I don't know. Which one do you like? Just pick the one you like. Because

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she was like Indeed. You're such a redneck. You're like, we're here. And then, like, five minutes in. We we were like, hey, do you guys sell them with, like, a lemonade or a turkey leg or anything?

she was like Indeed. You're such a redneck. You're like, we're here. And then, like, five minutes in. We we were like, hey, do you guys sell them with, like, a lemonade or a turkey leg or anything?

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I was like, oh, they used to offer snacks. You still guys still do that? And they were like, we've never done that, sir. And I was like, alright, where the shot. And then, like

I was like, oh, they used to offer snacks. You still guys still do that? And they were like, we've never done that, sir. And I was like, alright, where the shot. And then, like

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oh, Jesus? There was, like, a section for the person that's, like, five stairs up. But I got a stroller, two children, and a dog. As you remember, it's off, like, I got an elevator and it's like three stairs. They were like

oh, Jesus? There was, like, a section for the person that's, like, five stairs up. But I got a stroller, two children, and a dog. As you remember, it's off, like, I got an elevator and it's like three stairs. They were like

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they were like, yeah, there is like a wheelchair lift over here. I'm not if your wagon will fit, but, like, and then I got stuck in the fucking wheelchair lift going between, like, going up a four foot rise

they were like, yeah, there is like a wheelchair lift over here. I'm not if your wagon will fit, but, like, and then I got stuck in the fucking wheelchair lift going between, like, going up a four foot rise

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I get stuck. And then I realized I'm not stuck. I just pushed the door and it opens. Nobody was on the other side to open the door.

I get stuck. And then I realized I'm not stuck. I just pushed the door and it opens. Nobody was on the other side to open the door.

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Automatic

Automatic

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either. Dude, you're the Indian,

either. Dude, you're the Indian,

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curb your enthusiasm.

curb your enthusiasm.

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Yeah. That's exactly how I felt. Oh, dude. Somebody said this the the other day they go,

Yeah. That's exactly how I felt. Oh, dude. Somebody said this the the other day they go,

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they go, I was in LA.

they go, I was in LA.

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They go, I was in LA or whatever, near New York somewhere.

They go, I was in LA or whatever, near New York somewhere.

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And Larry David was there at a, a driving range. Playing golf.

And Larry David was there at a, a driving range. Playing golf.

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And they were, like,

And they were, like,

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it and they're, like, it was, like, some like, just take a hole in the wall type of driver. You're not, like, a nice like, why does Larry David go there? He's like, oh, it's like mirror where he lives or something. So he just popped over. It's like two PM on a Tuesday. He just wanted to hit some balls. And they're like, I overheard him. And nobody even nobody pays attention, you know, this just looks like an old guy, and I didn't know what he knows who he is. And he's talking to the lady who sell it gives you the balls. The balls are

it and they're, like, it was, like, some like, just take a hole in the wall type of driver. You're not, like, a nice like, why does Larry David go there? He's like, oh, it's like mirror where he lives or something. So he just popped over. It's like two PM on a Tuesday. He just wanted to hit some balls. And they're like, I overheard him. And nobody even nobody pays attention, you know, this just looks like an old guy, and I didn't know what he knows who he is. And he's talking to the lady who sell it gives you the balls. The balls are

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The balls are eleven dollars.

The balls are eleven dollars.

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And he's like,

And he's like,

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why does he have to be eleven dollars? He's like, shit.

why does he have to be eleven dollars? He's like, shit.

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I think, like, he was negotiating the price. He was complaining about he's like a super rich guy. He's like, it's not the price. Eleven dollars now I gotta have a ten, but a ten's not enough. If you made a ten, one bill, we're done. Now I gotta give you a twenty nine. What are you gonna give me? Five and then four ones? What am I gonna do with these ones? And it's like, Paul, like, an actual curb your enthusiasm

I think, like, he was negotiating the price. He was complaining about he's like a super rich guy. He's like, it's not the price. Eleven dollars now I gotta have a ten, but a ten's not enough. If you made a ten, one bill, we're done. Now I gotta give you a twenty nine. What are you gonna give me? Five and then four ones? What am I gonna do with these ones? And it's like, Paul, like, an actual curb your enthusiasm

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I definitely like that in real life.

I definitely like that in real life.

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For sure.

For sure.

06:31

Alright. Since we're talking about entertainment and content. I have to tell you about two different things. So we're gonna call this segment. I'm happy freaks freaks exist. Here's the craziest content that I've consumed this weekend. Have you heard the show? Yeah. No. Definitely not. Have

Alright. Since we're talking about entertainment and content. I have to tell you about two different things. So we're gonna call this segment. I'm happy freaks freaks exist. Here's the craziest content that I've consumed this weekend. Have you heard the show? Yeah. No. Definitely not. Have

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you

you

06:50

Have you seen this show called naked and afraid?

Have you seen this show called naked and afraid?

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I've heard of it, but I have not watched it. It's, like, you're naked and obese. Right? Or you're naked. No. It's it's worse than that.

I've heard of it, but I have not watched it. It's, like, you're naked and obese. Right? Or you're naked. No. It's it's worse than that.

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So what they do is they take two strangers,

So what they do is they take two strangers,

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and they drop them off in, like, the jungle in South Africa or

and they drop them off in, like, the jungle in South Africa or

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Asia, I don't even know where the exact locations are. It's all over the world, but like remote remote locations,

Asia, I don't even know where the exact locations are. It's all over the world, but like remote remote locations,

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oftentimes, places that's like a hundred and ten degrees during the day and, like, fifty degrees at night, so you're freezing. They take two strangers, they put them, in this area. Okay? They give them nothing. Sometimes if the water's really bad, they'll give them just a,

oftentimes, places that's like a hundred and ten degrees during the day and, like, fifty degrees at night, so you're freezing. They take two strangers, they put them, in this area. Okay? They give them nothing. Sometimes if the water's really bad, they'll give them just a,

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a pot, just an empty pot

a pot, just an empty pot

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and and a machete. That's basically it. And they make the two strangers meet and work together to survive for twenty one days, and they're completely

and and a machete. That's basically it. And they make the two strangers meet and work together to survive for twenty one days, and they're completely

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butt naked.

butt naked.

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They're they're not wearing anything. They're entirely naked, and they've gotta, like, spoon at night to stay warm. Otherwise, they're gonna, like, shiver and, like, and, like Is it usually But it's not like, two dudes, two women, makes? What are we doing? It could be usually so usually,

They're they're not wearing anything. They're entirely naked, and they've gotta, like, spoon at night to stay warm. Otherwise, they're gonna, like, shiver and, like, and, like Is it usually But it's not like, two dudes, two women, makes? What are we doing? It could be usually so usually,

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like, a man and a woman, but then they, like, throw, like,

like, a man and a woman, but then they, like, throw, like,

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curb balls in there. So, like, they had this, like, guy. I think he was from Australia,

curb balls in there. So, like, they had this, like, guy. I think he was from Australia,

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and they played them out. Like, he's like this, like, redneck, hick guy from Australia, And then the woman is a transexual.

and they played them out. Like, he's like this, like, redneck, hick guy from Australia, And then the woman is a transexual.

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And she comes on and the they set it up. So, like, they, like, you know, how is this conservative guy gonna feel about this? And he was totally and, like, the whole show, it was like, oh, you know, it's okay. Like, everyone's, like, unique and and he's, like, totally kind and, like, it's like, oh, man. He's breaking the stereo and they, like, hug it out and they're like, you were we'll protect one another. We're we're team. And so that's, like, you know, like, one of many ways the show is amazing is, like, they're, like, doing this together It's ridiculous and the hardest thing I've ever seen, and I don't think they get paid a cent. You've never you have to watch this show. It's ridiculous.

And she comes on and the they set it up. So, like, they, like, you know, how is this conservative guy gonna feel about this? And he was totally and, like, the whole show, it was like, oh, you know, it's okay. Like, everyone's, like, unique and and he's, like, totally kind and, like, it's like, oh, man. He's breaking the stereo and they, like, hug it out and they're like, you were we'll protect one another. We're we're team. And so that's, like, you know, like, one of many ways the show is amazing is, like, they're, like, doing this together It's ridiculous and the hardest thing I've ever seen, and I don't think they get paid a cent. You've never you have to watch this show. It's ridiculous.

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And so they have to survive for how long? Twenty one days. Twenty one days. And so what are they doing? They're going and hunting, or they're just, like, eating, They're, like,

And so they have to survive for how long? Twenty one days. Twenty one days. And so what are they doing? They're going and hunting, or they're just, like, eating, They're, like,

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usually they're like, we have to make shelter. They're like, we have to go figure out how to make a fire. Sometimes it's in a rain forest and it's raining and they're like, I don't know how we're gonna stay warm. We're not gonna eat. And so sometimes they won't eat for days, for ten days.

usually they're like, we have to make shelter. They're like, we have to go figure out how to make a fire. Sometimes it's in a rain forest and it's raining and they're like, I don't know how we're gonna stay warm. We're not gonna eat. And so sometimes they won't eat for days, for ten days.

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On one episode, a guy made a bone arrow and shot a bird, and it was awesome.

On one episode, a guy made a bone arrow and shot a bird, and it was awesome.

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Another episode, a guy tried to go and wrestle a crocodile to bring back into eat.

Another episode, a guy tried to go and wrestle a crocodile to bring back into eat.

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Oftentimes, I've noticed another

Oftentimes, I've noticed another

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like, trait I've noticed is usually the women are way tougher

like, trait I've noticed is usually the women are way tougher

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and way calmer. Like, significantly, like, the men are, like, come out all aggressive. Like, this is gonna be awesome. And they're, like, trying to cheer the woman on. Like, let's do this. And then they, like, get worn out after seven days and they bail, and the woman just stays by herself. And does it. So usually the it seems the women are mentally

and way calmer. Like, significantly, like, the men are, like, come out all aggressive. Like, this is gonna be awesome. And they're, like, trying to cheer the woman on. Like, let's do this. And then they, like, get worn out after seven days and they bail, and the woman just stays by herself. And does it. So usually the it seems the women are mentally

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stronger.

stronger.

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It's amazing. This it's a it's a it's a wild show. I cannot believe that. Like, people do this. Okay. That's amazing. What does that have to do with,

It's amazing. This it's a it's a it's a wild show. I cannot believe that. Like, people do this. Okay. That's amazing. What does that have to do with,

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the you put a tweet in here also next to it that's completely unrelated

the you put a tweet in here also next to it that's completely unrelated

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I guess it's under the theme of I'm I'm glad that freaks exist.

I guess it's under the theme of I'm I'm glad that freaks exist.

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The second thing. There's this guy. What's his name? Is his name Felix? Felix.

The second thing. There's this guy. What's his name? Is his name Felix? Felix.

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What's the URL of his website? You know? Is it like Felix dot today? How is Felix dot today?

What's the URL of his website? You know? Is it like Felix dot today? How is Felix dot today?

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So this freaking guy

So this freaking guy

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For eight years,

For eight years,

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he tracked hundreds

he tracked hundreds

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of different parts of his life. So and I have a list up. So he tracked the easy ones like weight

of different parts of his life. So and I have a list up. So he tracked the easy ones like weight

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steps

steps

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and diet, but then, and then alcohol, but then he tracked his mood, his stress. He used rest you dot me, rescue time, I think it's called an app that tracks which programs he was using on his computer? How much time he spent on his cell phone? His mood, his energy, his sleep,

and diet, but then, and then alcohol, but then he tracked his mood, his stress. He used rest you dot me, rescue time, I think it's called an app that tracks which programs he was using on his computer? How much time he spent on his cell phone? His mood, his energy, his sleep,

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how often he how many texts he sent that day, how often he talked to friends,

how often he how many texts he sent that day, how often he talked to friends,

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if he was more productive in the evening or the day,

if he was more productive in the evening or the day,

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if he took any drugs,

if he took any drugs,

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what city he was in, what the weather was, how hungry he felt, Did he feel lethargic? Did he feel stressed?

what city he was in, what the weather was, how hungry he felt, Did he feel lethargic? Did he feel stressed?

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What else did he it it was like just so much stuff. He had thirty forty or fifty thousand data points, and it's all done in an engineer like way where it, you know, he could say like, well, I was forty six percent more likely to say I felt sad if I didn't see a friend in the trailing three days. Like, there's like what are can can you read out some of the findings? Yes. So, like, for example, how how does longer sleep duration,

What else did he it it was like just so much stuff. He had thirty forty or fifty thousand data points, and it's all done in an engineer like way where it, you know, he could say like, well, I was forty six percent more likely to say I felt sad if I didn't see a friend in the trailing three days. Like, there's like what are can can you read out some of the findings? Yes. So, like, for example, how how does longer sleep duration,

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how does sleep affect my day? He's like, if I have

how does sleep affect my day? He's like, if I have

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Let's see. So

Let's see. So

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if he had more than eight and a half hours,

if he had more than eight and a half hours,

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Okay. I think he he thinks he means less here, but he's sixty five percent more likely to have cold symptoms. Sixty percent more likely to have a headache. He he uses social media forty percent more when he sleep sleep deprived.

Okay. I think he he thinks he means less here, but he's sixty five percent more likely to have cold symptoms. Sixty percent more likely to have a headache. He he uses social media forty percent more when he sleep sleep deprived.

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Thirty percent more likely to be a rainy day. That's interesting.

Thirty percent more likely to be a rainy day. That's interesting.

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Yeah, crazy stuff. Twenty percent less likely to hit the gym.

Yeah, crazy stuff. Twenty percent less likely to hit the gym.

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Actually, no. Longer sleep duration. This is so this I didn't read it wrong. He's saying if I sleep more than eight and a half hours, all those things are true.

Actually, no. Longer sleep duration. This is so this I didn't read it wrong. He's saying if I sleep more than eight and a half hours, all those things are true.

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Which is great. Read another one. Read some of the other ones. It it, like, it's pretty this is it's pretty amazing way down, but then Air quality and various rooms. Like, I'm not even gonna read goes beyond that, but just, like, measuring the air quality is crazy.

Which is great. Read another one. Read some of the other ones. It it, like, it's pretty this is it's pretty amazing way down, but then Air quality and various rooms. Like, I'm not even gonna read goes beyond that, but just, like, measuring the air quality is crazy.

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Wow.

Wow.

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This is wild. I'm I'm I'm scrolling. I've been scrolling for, like, the entire time you were talking, and I'm halfway

This is wild. I'm I'm I'm scrolling. I've been scrolling for, like, the entire time you were talking, and I'm halfway

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through this guy's findings.

through this guy's findings.

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This guy's a night. Is he okay? He's at night. This guy's a freak. The funny thing is he tracked everything, and I'm like, is this guy okay? I don't think he's okay. I need an answer. Then he should start at the top. Is he okay? And actually, it says, Felix feels alright and updated one hour ago. And it says what city he's in? It's amazing. This first little table's nice. Wait, height, sleep, and then it goes,

This guy's a night. Is he okay? He's at night. This guy's a freak. The funny thing is he tracked everything, and I'm like, is this guy okay? I don't think he's okay. I need an answer. Then he should start at the top. Is he okay? And actually, it says, Felix feels alright and updated one hour ago. And it says what city he's in? It's amazing. This first little table's nice. Wait, height, sleep, and then it goes,

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last meditated forty one days ago. Inbox twenty emails, personal to do lists, hundred seventy nine tasks.

last meditated forty one days ago. Inbox twenty emails, personal to do lists, hundred seventy nine tasks.

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Wow.

Wow.

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It is pretty wild. His is a sleeping heart rate. Four fifty nine beats per minute.

It is pretty wild. His is a sleeping heart rate. Four fifty nine beats per minute.

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So if you scroll all the way to the bottom, he's got one sentence that kind of like summarizes this and he says do like a control my computer's not working but if you do like a control f build or something like that, you might find it where he says, basically,

So if you scroll all the way to the bottom, he's got one sentence that kind of like summarizes this and he says do like a control my computer's not working but if you do like a control f build or something like that, you might find it where he says, basically,

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building this

building this

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and having all this information. I'm happy I did it because it's just like a fun way for me to nerd out, but it was not beneficial and it doesn't make sense for anyone else to do this. So you were saying

and having all this information. I'm happy I did it because it's just like a fun way for me to nerd out, but it was not beneficial and it doesn't make sense for anyone else to do this. So you were saying

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the main it says, the main conclusion, it is that it is not worth building your own solution and investing this much time.

the main it says, the main conclusion, it is that it is not worth building your own solution and investing this much time.

13:33

So that's on the building your own solution.

So that's on the building your own solution.

13:37

I'm very happy that I built this project in the first place. It gave me much better awareness of everything going on in my life.

I'm very happy that I built this project in the first place. It gave me much better awareness of everything going on in my life.

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Excited

Excited

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to have this,

to have this,

13:45

have built this website to wrap up this project and showcase an outcome. So he's done this for eight years, you said?

have built this website to wrap up this project and showcase an outcome. So he's done this for eight years, you said?

13:50

Yeah.

Yeah.

13:51

Wow.

Wow.

13:54

Amazing. Right? Yeah. Truly amazing. How'd you find this guy?

Amazing. Right? Yeah. Truly amazing. How'd you find this guy?

13:58

On Twitter.

On Twitter.

13:59

How is Felix dot today if you wanna go check it out? It's nice. It's amazing. This is actually pretty nice. I'm not gonna lie.

How is Felix dot today if you wanna go check it out? It's nice. It's amazing. This is actually pretty nice. I'm not gonna lie.

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It's awesome. It's totally unnecessary and absolutely amazing. Like, I would like to have this if I just could do no work or, like, you know, touch a button once every five hours. Like, you know, I'm down to do that, but don't wanna remember to log all this stuff. His story and so this guy is incredibly interesting.

It's awesome. It's totally unnecessary and absolutely amazing. Like, I would like to have this if I just could do no work or, like, you know, touch a button once every five hours. Like, you know, I'm down to do that, but don't wanna remember to log all this stuff. His story and so this guy is incredibly interesting.

14:24

His story, I I read I, like, researched a lot of them because I I thought he was amazing. He said he moved. I where does it say where he's from? Is he from Vienna or somewhere like that? Yeah. And he moved to San Francisco in two thousand fifteen to work Twitter. And then after a year, he was like, you know, I don't really like having an apartment. I'm only gonna live on an Airbnb

His story, I I read I, like, researched a lot of them because I I thought he was amazing. He said he moved. I where does it say where he's from? Is he from Vienna or somewhere like that? Yeah. And he moved to San Francisco in two thousand fifteen to work Twitter. And then after a year, he was like, you know, I don't really like having an apartment. I'm only gonna live on an Airbnb

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in San Francisco and then he was like, I'm just gonna leave San Francisco. And so for the past,

in San Francisco and then he was like, I'm just gonna leave San Francisco. And so for the past,

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like seven years, he's only like he doesn't own anything other than a suitcase, I think.

like seven years, he's only like he doesn't own anything other than a suitcase, I think.

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And that's how he's been living.

And that's how he's been living.

14:54

Good for him. I like it. I like the, I like the segment too. Glad that freaks exist. Can I tell you about,

Good for him. I like it. I like the, I like the segment too. Glad that freaks exist. Can I tell you about,

15:01

another freak?

another freak?

15:02

Yeah.

Yeah.

15:03

Alright. Elon Musk. So the the what but this is not actually about Elon. This is about his wife. Have you ever

Alright. Elon Musk. So the the what but this is not actually about Elon. This is about his wife. Have you ever

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stumbled down the rabbit hole that is justine

stumbled down the rabbit hole that is justine

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Musk on Quora.

Musk on Quora.

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She talks a lot of crap. She's airs out a lot of their she's she, like, is it sounds like Elon didn't treat her wonderfully, and she lets the world know. Like, she airs out their laundry.

She talks a lot of crap. She's airs out a lot of their she's she, like, is it sounds like Elon didn't treat her wonderfully, and she lets the world know. Like, she airs out their laundry.

15:29

Well, I don't know. I I don't know about all that. What what did she do that that aired out as laundry? I'm not sure that that's true. She said that he was driven and everything, but she also said like,

Well, I don't know. I I don't know about all that. What what did she do that that aired out as laundry? I'm not sure that that's true. She said that he was driven and everything, but she also said like,

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I I don't wanna exactly paraphrase. I don't remember entirely, but I remember, like, She gave like a TED Talk and on Quora. She's like, yeah, it's just like living with him was

I I don't wanna exactly paraphrase. I don't remember entirely, but I remember, like, She gave like a TED Talk and on Quora. She's like, yeah, it's just like living with him was

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horrible because he wasn't there. He cleared we were all like second and third place to his work.

horrible because he wasn't there. He cleared we were all like second and third place to his work.

15:53

Yeah. Yeah. But So she says things that you would

Yeah. Yeah. But So she says things that you would

15:56

that's not Aaron out of Jersey. That's I don't know. This com that's common sense, almost.

that's not Aaron out of Jersey. That's I don't know. This com that's common sense, almost.

16:02

He's had, like, three wives. Yeah. I'm pretty sure, you know, something's

He's had, like, three wives. Yeah. I'm pretty sure, you know, something's

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not great about the experience. Otherwise, you know, may may have lasted for longer.

not great about the experience. Otherwise, you know, may may have lasted for longer.

16:10

But, dude, I find her her Quora to be fascinating.

But, dude, I find her her Quora to be fascinating.

16:14

She has and it's not all just, let me tell you about Elon Musk. It's like, you know, she answers questions about a bunch of stuff, and she's done it for -- Big season's. -- author. Seven years. Yes. So she's an author. She's very smart, novelist.

She has and it's not all just, let me tell you about Elon Musk. It's like, you know, she answers questions about a bunch of stuff, and she's done it for -- Big season's. -- author. Seven years. Yes. So she's an author. She's very smart, novelist.

16:26

And so she answered some questions. I will give you a couple of the the answers that she gave. So so so somebody said, How can I be as great as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, or,

And so she answered some questions. I will give you a couple of the the answers that she gave. So so so somebody said, How can I be as great as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, or,

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or Richard Branson? And so,

or Richard Branson? And so,

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where's her answer?

where's her answer?

16:39

Let me find it. Have you been watching the Johnny Depp trial?

Let me find it. Have you been watching the Johnny Depp trial?

16:43

A little bit, dude. It's wild. So good.

A little bit, dude. It's wild. So good.

16:46

It's so good. It's so excited. Why are people why is this so fascinating to people? There is okay. You wanna know another freaks exist,

It's so good. It's so excited. Why are people why is this so fascinating to people? There is okay. You wanna know another freaks exist,

16:54

moment?

moment?

16:55

Go to,

Go to,

16:57

go to this Instagram account before I even go back to this Justine Musk thing. This is crazy. And this is also, like, kinda interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that this is a thing. But go to the Instagram account that's called

go to this Instagram account before I even go back to this Justine Musk thing. This is crazy. And this is also, like, kinda interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that this is a thing. But go to the Instagram account that's called

17:08

what is it called? How is habit or something like that? It's called what's it called? House in habit.

what is it called? How is habit or something like that? It's called what's it called? House in habit.

17:14

So this person,

So this person,

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Jessica Reid Krauss.

Jessica Reid Krauss.

17:18

Wow. What are the odds? Both of them? Felix Krauss and Jessica Krauss. Maybe they're married.

Wow. What are the odds? Both of them? Felix Krauss and Jessica Krauss. Maybe they're married.

17:24

These two freaks.

These two freaks.

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So

So

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so she lives in Southern California.

so she lives in Southern California.

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And she calls herself the queen of carpool, the Hollywood philosopher,

And she calls herself the queen of carpool, the Hollywood philosopher,

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stereotypical

stereotypical

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scorpio tendencies,

scorpio tendencies,

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and then she puts her Venmo on here. Just to give you a quick sense of what we're dealing with. Okay. So What's the scorpio? I don't understand what that reference is. I don't know, all, like, LA

and then she puts her Venmo on here. Just to give you a quick sense of what we're dealing with. Okay. So What's the scorpio? I don't understand what that reference is. I don't know, all, like, LA

17:46

things. It's like, you know, here's my favorite crystal

things. It's like, you know, here's my favorite crystal

17:49

Here's my horoscope.

Here's my horoscope.

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Here's my Venmo, and here's my, like, casting tape.

Here's my Venmo, and here's my, like, casting tape.

17:55

So,

So,

17:56

alright. So she basically covers

alright. So she basically covers

17:58

trial, like Hollywood gossip,

trial, like Hollywood gossip,

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but in the craziest amount of detail you'll ever see. So look at her follow account. She's got eight hundred and fifty thousand followers. That's just like an independent person.

but in the craziest amount of detail you'll ever see. So look at her follow account. She's got eight hundred and fifty thousand followers. That's just like an independent person.

18:09

And she's been posting every day about the trial. Like, if you go click her story, there's, like,

And she's been posting every day about the trial. Like, if you go click her story, there's, like,

18:14

fifty, like, maybe more. Oh my god. There's, like, eighty story frames, right, to like tap through. And she edits it like crazy. It's like insane. So, like, today is not a good one because it's like the there wasn't, like, a trial thing, but, like, if you click, like, ten in, it'll be, like, she'll cut, like, a little clip of Johnny walking in, and then there's music she overlays. And then there's, like, a little that she cuts in this news clip from Fox, and then she adds on top of that. Then she transcribes a whole bunch of stuff and, like, puts the transcript there. Then she does the background research. And so I know several people who are following the whole trial. They don't watch a a single minute of the trial. They don't read the news.

fifty, like, maybe more. Oh my god. There's, like, eighty story frames, right, to like tap through. And she edits it like crazy. It's like insane. So, like, today is not a good one because it's like the there wasn't, like, a trial thing, but, like, if you click, like, ten in, it'll be, like, she'll cut, like, a little clip of Johnny walking in, and then there's music she overlays. And then there's, like, a little that she cuts in this news clip from Fox, and then she adds on top of that. Then she transcribes a whole bunch of stuff and, like, puts the transcript there. Then she does the background research. And so I know several people who are following the whole trial. They don't watch a a single minute of the trial. They don't read the news.

18:50

They just follow it through her story because it because it is so crazy in-depth

They just follow it through her story because it because it is so crazy in-depth

18:54

and somewhat addictive and entertaining. And, first when the first was nobody, I was like, okay. That's weird, whatever. You you got into something weird. Then I heard it again. And I was like, you also follow that random person. And, like, yeah, it's great. And then I looked at then I looked him up, and she has eight hundred fifty thousand followers. And I was like, holy shit. This is crazy that this is, like, one of those niches that you wouldn't even really know exists. But, of course, it exists. And, of course, it's a big deal. It basically takes the tabloid

and somewhat addictive and entertaining. And, first when the first was nobody, I was like, okay. That's weird, whatever. You you got into something weird. Then I heard it again. And I was like, you also follow that random person. And, like, yeah, it's great. And then I looked at then I looked him up, and she has eight hundred fifty thousand followers. And I was like, holy shit. This is crazy that this is, like, one of those niches that you wouldn't even really know exists. But, of course, it exists. And, of course, it's a big deal. It basically takes the tabloid

19:22

But it repackages it from a tabloid into, like, any individual person's Instagram can become

But it repackages it from a tabloid into, like, any individual person's Instagram can become

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the juiciest tabloid in the world if you just put in the effort and she puts in mad effort.

the juiciest tabloid in the world if you just put in the effort and she puts in mad effort.

19:32

What she just covered I was looking at her stories that there was a guy a couple of days ago. He looked like he was dressed like he was about to go to be a waiter at a restaurant. And he couldn't be at the trial. So he was on zoom and he was in his car.

What she just covered I was looking at her stories that there was a guy a couple of days ago. He looked like he was dressed like he was about to go to be a waiter at a restaurant. And he couldn't be at the trial. So he was on zoom and he was in his car.

19:44

And he was sitting there with the zoo with his camera from him and he starts vaping.

And he was sitting there with the zoo with his camera from him and he starts vaping.

19:49

On

On

19:50

on the call. And you see it, like, take a hit of vape and, like, exhale all this smoke while he's sitting in his car, waiting for the judge to ask a question.

on the call. And you see it, like, take a hit of vape and, like, exhale all this smoke while he's sitting in his car, waiting for the judge to ask a question.

19:59

And then, it's clear that, like, he's gotta go. So he starts driving out of the parking lot, like, while animating,

And then, it's clear that, like, he's gotta go. So he starts driving out of the parking lot, like, while animating,

20:06

while he's answering the calls. And he's like, alright. You guys good, dear. So I answered everything. Alright. I gotta go. He's just he's like, like, vague being while driving away during this trial. But, alright. What about justine?

while he's answering the calls. And he's like, alright. You guys good, dear. So I answered everything. Alright. I gotta go. He's just he's like, like, vague being while driving away during this trial. But, alright. What about justine?

20:18

Okay. So justine Musk. Okay. So somebody Will I become a billionaire if I'm determined to be one and I put in the necessary work?

Okay. So justine Musk. Okay. So somebody Will I become a billionaire if I'm determined to be one and I put in the necessary work?

20:25

Shit, her first answer. No. One of the qualities of a self made billionaire is their ability to ask the right question. That is not the right question. It's not to say it's a bad question. It just won't get you to the part of your mind that's working to help you and mulling things over while you're doing up other things and sending up flares of insight.

Shit, her first answer. No. One of the qualities of a self made billionaire is their ability to ask the right question. That is not the right question. It's not to say it's a bad question. It just won't get you to the part of your mind that's working to help you and mulling things over while you're doing up other things and sending up flares of insight.

20:44

You're determined.

You're determined.

20:45

So what? You haven't been You haven't been racing naked through shark infested waters yet. Will u d b determined when you wash up on some deserted island disoriented bloody ragged beaten staring off into the horizon with no sign of rescue. And she's and so she goes through and she's like, you know,

So what? You haven't been You haven't been racing naked through shark infested waters yet. Will u d b determined when you wash up on some deserted island disoriented bloody ragged beaten staring off into the horizon with no sign of rescue. And she's and so she goes through and she's like, you know,

21:00

the world doesn't she hit the, like, the final thing the world doesn't throw a billion dollars at the person because they want it or because they work so hard, they feel they deserve it. The world does not know does not care what you want or deserve. The world gives you an exchange for something it perceives to be of equal or greater value.

the world doesn't she hit the, like, the final thing the world doesn't throw a billion dollars at the person because they want it or because they work so hard, they feel they deserve it. The world does not know does not care what you want or deserve. The world gives you an exchange for something it perceives to be of equal or greater value.

21:13

And, anyway, so she goes through and and basically, like, you know, the long story short was, no, a billionaire doesn't come on Quora and ask these types of questions.

And, anyway, so she goes through and and basically, like, you know, the long story short was, no, a billionaire doesn't come on Quora and ask these types of questions.

21:21

But it'll be like, if you just go through and deep dive the the dive through to search her on on on Quora and It's a fun, like, twenty minute read because I think you get little snapshots into somebody who knows Elon Musk really well and has been around somebody of that, like, you know, kind of like the greatest entrepreneur and inventor of our lifetime,

But it'll be like, if you just go through and deep dive the the dive through to search her on on on Quora and It's a fun, like, twenty minute read because I think you get little snapshots into somebody who knows Elon Musk really well and has been around somebody of that, like, you know, kind of like the greatest entrepreneur and inventor of our lifetime,

21:40

somebody who knows him from a different angle, but then also somebody who's just like smart and objective. So they're not a fanboy.

somebody who knows him from a different angle, but then also somebody who's just like smart and objective. So they're not a fanboy.

21:46

Nor are they a hater? It's like someone who I actually kind of respect and, you know, believe their opinion on these things. Obviously, everybody's got their bias, but feel like with Elon Musk, normally, it's hundred percent fanboy or hundred percent hater,

Nor are they a hater? It's like someone who I actually kind of respect and, you know, believe their opinion on these things. Obviously, everybody's got their bias, but feel like with Elon Musk, normally, it's hundred percent fanboy or hundred percent hater,

21:59

or just completely uninformed. And, like, this is None of the above. This is something else. This is informed. Are there any other good ones?

or just completely uninformed. And, like, this is None of the above. This is something else. This is informed. Are there any other good ones?

22:06

That she's written up?

That she's written up?

22:08

Yeah. There's a bunch that are just on so I started with, Elon ones, and then it'll be like, you know,

Yeah. There's a bunch that are just on so I started with, Elon ones, and then it'll be like, you know,

22:14

you know, it'll be like, you know, should I how should I break up with my girlfriend? It's like, oh, let's see what she to say about that. Like, you just read, like, you know, her kind of take on philosophy. I don't know. She's a fascinating character. The other one is Grimes just did a podcast with Lex Friedman I don't know if you saw saw that.

you know, it'll be like, you know, should I how should I break up with my girlfriend? It's like, oh, let's see what she to say about that. Like, you just read, like, you know, her kind of take on philosophy. I don't know. She's a fascinating character. The other one is Grimes just did a podcast with Lex Friedman I don't know if you saw saw that.

22:31

I heard about it. So Elon's current I don't know what I don't know if they're married, girlfriend, something, baby mama. I think they've had two babies together, but they're not married or something like that. They're not together anymore.

I heard about it. So Elon's current I don't know what I don't know if they're married, girlfriend, something, baby mama. I think they've had two babies together, but they're not married or something like that. They're not together anymore.

22:43

She did a podcast, and you could definitely see, like,

She did a podcast, and you could definitely see, like,

22:48

how

how

22:49

these people would get along. Like, she even talks like Elon, and this kind of, like, slow, measured,

these people would get along. Like, she even talks like Elon, and this kind of, like, slow, measured,

22:56

weird,

weird,

22:57

like, finality type of way of speaking.

like, finality type of way of speaking.

23:00

But she was talking about, like, you know,

But she was talking about, like, you know,

23:03

like, how to raise kids or, like, you know, there's, like, is they're, like, you know, what do you think about, like, you know, free speech on Twitter or something like that? Like, start asking She's like,

like, how to raise kids or, like, you know, there's, like, is they're, like, you know, what do you think about, like, you know, free speech on Twitter or something like that? Like, start asking She's like,

23:13

I

I

23:14

I do not think I should have an opinion on this.

I do not think I should have an opinion on this.

23:17

And he's like, oh my god. And then, which is, like, such a Elon thing to say. She's like, I feel, you know, I'm too close to the situation. I actually I should not have an opinion on this.

And he's like, oh my god. And then, which is, like, such a Elon thing to say. She's like, I feel, you know, I'm too close to the situation. I actually I should not have an opinion on this.

23:27

I I shouldn't have an opinion on

I I shouldn't have an opinion on

23:30

Oh my god. It it it would not be it it would not not be

Oh my god. It it it would not be it it would not not be

23:37

productive to this future of humanity.

productive to this future of humanity.

23:39

This should come up that weird.

This should come up that weird.

23:41

Kind of. Yeah. It's like not like I thought I I don't know. I knew nothing about her. So, like, you know, by just

Kind of. Yeah. It's like not like I thought I I don't know. I knew nothing about her. So, like, you know, by just

23:47

from afar. He's like, oh, I think he married, like, a musician or something like that. Okay. She's probably, like, you know, like, some

from afar. He's like, oh, I think he married, like, a musician or something like that. Okay. She's probably, like, you know, like, some

23:54

you know, just, like, beautiful, happy bubbly pop star. And it's like, no. It's not that at all. Okay. She's kinda, like, alternative. Alright. And I get it. But still, you know, like,

you know, just, like, beautiful, happy bubbly pop star. And it's like, no. It's not that at all. Okay. She's kinda, like, alternative. Alright. And I get it. But still, you know, like,

24:03

I don't know, charismatic. Charismatic and into, like,

I don't know, charismatic. Charismatic and into, like,

24:07

just like kind of like a extrovert

just like kind of like a extrovert

24:09

people person. And instead, it was like, you know, she was like, oh,

people person. And instead, it was like, you know, she was like, oh,

24:14

they were like, how's it been? You know, like, tell me about, like, you just had a baby, you know, what's what's mother had been like for you or whatever. And she's like, It reminds me of my favorite, graphic novel, sci fi graphic novel,

they were like, how's it been? You know, like, tell me about, like, you just had a baby, you know, what's what's mother had been like for you or whatever. And she's like, It reminds me of my favorite, graphic novel, sci fi graphic novel,

24:25

and then she named some Japanese, like, graphic novel. You know, like, no one's like, have you read it? He's like, no. And then she's like, it's called,

and then she named some Japanese, like, graphic novel. You know, like, no one's like, have you read it? He's like, no. And then she's like, it's called,

24:34

I have no mouth, but I must scream. And that's what having this baby feels like because they're helpless. Right? They can't even control their muscles. They're they can't say what they want. They can't express what they need, but they need something, and they're trying to scream. But it's as if they have no mouth. I was like, whoa, like, pretty dark take on, like, motherhood. But, like, I don't know, also interesting and insightful at the same time.

I have no mouth, but I must scream. And that's what having this baby feels like because they're helpless. Right? They can't even control their muscles. They're they can't say what they want. They can't express what they need, but they need something, and they're trying to scream. But it's as if they have no mouth. I was like, whoa, like, pretty dark take on, like, motherhood. But, like, I don't know, also interesting and insightful at the same time.

24:55

But, yeah, that's been kind of my, like, that's that's my contribution to the, I'm happy that that freaks exist because, like, yeah, I'm happy that there's people that are so different

But, yeah, that's been kind of my, like, that's that's my contribution to the, I'm happy that that freaks exist because, like, yeah, I'm happy that there's people that are so different

25:04

And,

And,

25:05

so interesting.

so interesting.

25:07

And we'll we'll live life in a way that's, like, interesting, but, like, uncomfortable. And I get to be comfortable

And we'll we'll live life in a way that's, like, interesting, but, like, uncomfortable. And I get to be comfortable

25:14

and just watch them do interesting things.

and just watch them do interesting things.

25:16

Well, you know that Dude, I love it. That Teddy Roosevelt quote that everybody, every entrepreneur

Well, you know that Dude, I love it. That Teddy Roosevelt quote that everybody, every entrepreneur

25:20

loves to put on fucking Instagram. Like the the the man in the arena or something. It is not the critic who counts. It's the man in the arena who's bloody and beaten and whatever. You know what? It's also tied to not be bloody and beaten. It's tied to being a just a casual fan in the arena eating popcorn watching other people get beaten up and then going back to your daily life. Like, that's actually a pretty tight position that, like, most people should go into and not try to be, like, you know, the gladiator dying in the arena. Or the critic Hader. You don't need to be either one.

loves to put on fucking Instagram. Like the the the man in the arena or something. It is not the critic who counts. It's the man in the arena who's bloody and beaten and whatever. You know what? It's also tied to not be bloody and beaten. It's tied to being a just a casual fan in the arena eating popcorn watching other people get beaten up and then going back to your daily life. Like, that's actually a pretty tight position that, like, most people should go into and not try to be, like, you know, the gladiator dying in the arena. Or the critic Hader. You don't need to be either one.

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Dude, do you realize that to some people? I think you and I are that entertainment

Dude, do you realize that to some people? I think you and I are that entertainment

26:12

where

where

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like, I'll have some people, like, reach out to me. And I think it happens to you. It's like, oh, you should do blank. It's like, you really just want me to dance for you. Yeah. That's really weird. Yeah.

like, I'll have some people, like, reach out to me. And I think it happens to you. It's like, oh, you should do blank. It's like, you really just want me to dance for you. Yeah. That's really weird. Yeah.

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Just tell me to dance. That that'd be a lot easier. That'll only take a few minutes. If you want me to dedicate three years of my life to starting blank,

Just tell me to dance. That that'd be a lot easier. That'll only take a few minutes. If you want me to dedicate three years of my life to starting blank,

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Yeah. You guys should talk about this. Oh, you want me to go get a PhD and something I don't know about for your benefit?

Yeah. You guys should talk about this. Oh, you want me to go get a PhD and something I don't know about for your benefit?

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Okay. Cool.

Okay. Cool.

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That's not how the podcast works. But here's how the podcast works.

That's not how the podcast works. But here's how the podcast works.

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I'm weird. I don't realize it. Then I come talk to Sam. He's weird. It doesn't realize it. Kind of point out, that's weird about each other. Then we go away. And, like, you guys think we're both weird.

I'm weird. I don't realize it. Then I come talk to Sam. He's weird. It doesn't realize it. Kind of point out, that's weird about each other. Then we go away. And, like, you guys think we're both weird.

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Yeah. I mean, we are that to some people where they just, like, want us to dance.

Yeah. I mean, we are that to some people where they just, like, want us to dance.

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But, dude, that's why I love the the YouTubers. Like, there's this guy I've been following. I think it's called, like, Whistland Diesel. There's all these YouTubers

But, dude, that's why I love the the YouTubers. Like, there's this guy I've been following. I think it's called, like, Whistland Diesel. There's all these YouTubers

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where,

where,

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they got they get what does that mean?

they got they get what does that mean?

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Whistler. I think it's Whistler diesel. So he, like, has all this acreage out in Indiana, I think. And he just,

Whistler. I think it's Whistler diesel. So he, like, has all this acreage out in Indiana, I think. And he just,

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like, builds, cool, trucks and cars and just, like, wrecks them, basically.

like, builds, cool, trucks and cars and just, like, wrecks them, basically.

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Like, you know, he'll build, like,

Like, you know, he'll build, like,

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remember that as a kid, I think it was called a power wheel. It's like the like the little toy trucks for kids where you like sit in it. He'll build one of it. I'll take one of those It's not really one of those, but he like builds a version of that that has a massive gas engine in it. It goes like a hundred and twenty miles an hour. But it looks like a power wheel. So just like doing things that, like, you think you would wanna do in the country, but what's in or, you know, when you're out in the in the land and, like, just breaking shit and, like, blowing stuff up doing all that. But what's crazy is these guys do it, and then they start making money from it, and they're like, alright. Now we have more money to found on stuff up, bigger stuff. Blow stuff up and to build stuff, like, or there's all these guys on YouTube who will, like, get, like, a fifty caliber rifle. So, like, this gun that's like huge and scary. And they're like, you think it can shoot through that car?

remember that as a kid, I think it was called a power wheel. It's like the like the little toy trucks for kids where you like sit in it. He'll build one of it. I'll take one of those It's not really one of those, but he like builds a version of that that has a massive gas engine in it. It goes like a hundred and twenty miles an hour. But it looks like a power wheel. So just like doing things that, like, you think you would wanna do in the country, but what's in or, you know, when you're out in the in the land and, like, just breaking shit and, like, blowing stuff up doing all that. But what's crazy is these guys do it, and then they start making money from it, and they're like, alright. Now we have more money to found on stuff up, bigger stuff. Blow stuff up and to build stuff, like, or there's all these guys on YouTube who will, like, get, like, a fifty caliber rifle. So, like, this gun that's like huge and scary. And they're like, you think it can shoot through that car?

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Like, let's just try it. Let's see if it'll go straight through the car. Or what would happen if we just shot this at, like, a huge block of metal? How deep will it go? Like, just all these, like, stupid stuff that you would just only do like either when you're high or you would just dream of, but you're afraid of losing all this money. They do it and I get to live through them and I love that. Wow.

Like, let's just try it. Let's see if it'll go straight through the car. Or what would happen if we just shot this at, like, a huge block of metal? How deep will it go? Like, just all these, like, stupid stuff that you would just only do like either when you're high or you would just dream of, but you're afraid of losing all this money. They do it and I get to live through them and I love that. Wow.

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That's cool. There actually kind of related note. So mister Beast basically does this, but he's, like, exactly. And, you know, he's almost, like, a hundred million subscribers on YouTube. So Did you see this thing that was going on last night? I I doubt you did because it's like, you know, you said you're gen y. This is like gen z, you know, shit. But basically, there was a celebrity poker game last night with,

That's cool. There actually kind of related note. So mister Beast basically does this, but he's, like, exactly. And, you know, he's almost, like, a hundred million subscribers on YouTube. So Did you see this thing that was going on last night? I I doubt you did because it's like, you know, you said you're gen y. This is like gen z, you know, shit. But basically, there was a celebrity poker game last night with,

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basically,

basically,

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it was this poker game last night that had, like, I don't know, how many, like, fifty thousand or more people watching it live,

it was this poker game last night that had, like, I don't know, how many, like, fifty thousand or more people watching it live,

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streamed on on Twitch and YouTube, and it had mister Beast, who's the number one YouTuber,

streamed on on Twitch and YouTube, and it had mister Beast, who's the number one YouTuber,

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light or whatever.

light or whatever.

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One of the biggest YouTubers. Ninja, who was the biggest streamer for, like, a long period of time, XQC, who's the biggest, like, one of the biggest twitch streamers also. So there's basically, like, four or five

One of the biggest YouTubers. Ninja, who was the biggest streamer for, like, a long period of time, XQC, who's the biggest, like, one of the biggest twitch streamers also. So there's basically, like, four or five

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huge content creators.

huge content creators.

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Then it was Phil Hommouth who's this, like, famous, like, pro poker player that's on TV all the time. Tomwan, who's like one of the greatest poker players ever. So it's like a couple of pros and a and a couple of, content creators, and they came in. It was a fifty thousand dollar buy in game. But they could rebuy. And so it was called the million dollar game. And, basically, this was being live stream last night. And none of them were, like, playing seriously because they were, like, a, they're all rich, and, b, they were trying to make for good content.

Then it was Phil Hommouth who's this, like, famous, like, pro poker player that's on TV all the time. Tomwan, who's like one of the greatest poker players ever. So it's like a couple of pros and a and a couple of, content creators, and they came in. It was a fifty thousand dollar buy in game. But they could rebuy. And so it was called the million dollar game. And, basically, this was being live stream last night. And none of them were, like, playing seriously because they were, like, a, they're all rich, and, b, they were trying to make for good content.

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And so they were, like, they're playing this game. It was a very entertaining game. It was probably, like, the one of the most entertaining, like,

And so they were, like, they're playing this game. It was a very entertaining game. It was probably, like, the one of the most entertaining, like,

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I don't know, like online or like, TV poker games that I've seen, like, in a long time.

I don't know, like online or like, TV poker games that I've seen, like, in a long time.

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And, I just thought it was a great idea. That's a that's a pretty short list I would imagine.

And, I just thought it was a great idea. That's a that's a pretty short list I would imagine.

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No. I've been watching for a long time. So I I actually care about about online po about poker and have watched a bunch of, like, Worldsters of Pokers or or high school. So, basically,

No. I've been watching for a long time. So I I actually care about about online po about poker and have watched a bunch of, like, Worldsters of Pokers or or high school. So, basically,

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shout out to to our girl Alexander Botes. Do you know her? She's the chess girl.

shout out to to our girl Alexander Botes. Do you know her? She's the chess girl.

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Okay. I I did a podcast. Oh, yeah. We've talked about her. I did podcast. Yes. So she's,

Okay. I I did a podcast. Oh, yeah. We've talked about her. I did podcast. Yes. So she's,

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a streamer content creator who's like her and her sister. I don't think they're twins, but I think they're their sisters.

a streamer content creator who's like her and her sister. I don't think they're twins, but I think they're their sisters.

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They,

They,

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they're like chess spat, like, I don't know if they're grand master or they're master players or whatever, but they're like,

they're like chess spat, like, I don't know if they're grand master or they're master players or whatever, but they're like,

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They're, like, great at chess, but also great at content. So they have, like, a big following or whatever.

They're, like, great at chess, but also great at content. So they have, like, a big following or whatever.

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And so she just cleaned up in this game, and she's not, like, a great poker player. It just, like, they would they were all kind of playing very loose, and she won, like, a half a million dollar pot, like, you know,

And so she just cleaned up in this game, and she's not, like, a great poker player. It just, like, they would they were all kind of playing very loose, and she won, like, a half a million dollar pot, like, you know,

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just kind of like with Ace nine. That's, like, kinda like a lucky hand or whatever. And, the pros were sitting there, like, just kinda waiting for good car, like, waiting for good to play good cards or just playing smart. Whereas, mister Beast was, like, just playing kinda, like, any any hand he could get into. And then he'd be, like, he

just kind of like with Ace nine. That's, like, kinda like a lucky hand or whatever. And, the pros were sitting there, like, just kinda waiting for good car, like, waiting for good to play good cards or just playing smart. Whereas, mister Beast was, like, just playing kinda, like, any any hand he could get into. And then he'd be, like, he

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he's just he's, like, I just want one clip to go viral. Like, what I'm here for is for one clip to go viral because they're, like, like, in poker, you could do this thing where once both people go all in, you could say, alright. Normally, you would just there's only one card left, and they're, like, one of us will win, one of us will lose. But you can do something called running it twice, which kind of like smoothens out the, like,

he's just he's, like, I just want one clip to go viral. Like, what I'm here for is for one clip to go viral because they're, like, like, in poker, you could do this thing where once both people go all in, you could say, alright. Normally, you would just there's only one card left, and they're, like, one of us will win, one of us will lose. But you can do something called running it twice, which kind of like smoothens out the, like,

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the variability, like, it's like running multiple times in a simulation. So you'll get, like, more possible outcomes. So you can run it once, run it twice, run it three times, run it four times. And he's like, No. We're gonna run it once. He's like, we need this clip to go viral. It needs to be the highest stakes with the biggest heartbreak,

the variability, like, it's like running multiple times in a simulation. So you'll get, like, more possible outcomes. So you can run it once, run it twice, run it three times, run it four times. And he's like, No. We're gonna run it once. He's like, we need this clip to go viral. It needs to be the highest stakes with the biggest heartbreak,

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and, like, the easiest to understand. And you can see the poker pro pros were like, Oh, okay. Like, I guess so. I guess that makes makes sense. It's like, to be so funny just to see, these guys playing with totally different, like, agendas.

and, like, the easiest to understand. And you can see the poker pro pros were like, Oh, okay. Like, I guess so. I guess that makes makes sense. It's like, to be so funny just to see, these guys playing with totally different, like, agendas.

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And styles. And also, they were mic'd up the whole time, and there was no edits because it was live. And so you could just hear them, like, bullshitting about whatever to each other. And, like, yeah, people from different worlds kind of just like so you did so the guy was like, so, like, you know, how how much how often do you play? It's like,

And styles. And also, they were mic'd up the whole time, and there was no edits because it was live. And so you could just hear them, like, bullshitting about whatever to each other. And, like, yeah, people from different worlds kind of just like so you did so the guy was like, so, like, you know, how how much how often do you play? It's like,

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Oh, I've been I I don't play. Like, this is the first day off I've taken in four years.

Oh, I've been I I don't play. Like, this is the first day off I've taken in four years.

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He's like, what do you mean? Like,

He's like, what do you mean? Like,

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how often do you stream? Because I stream every day for ten hours a day. He's like, what? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, this is one of the few, like, one of the rare date this guy executes.

how often do you stream? Because I stream every day for ten hours a day. He's like, what? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, this is one of the few, like, one of the rare date this guy executes.

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And he and they're, like, how long have you been doing that for? He's like, seven years? I

And he and they're, like, how long have you been doing that for? He's like, seven years? I

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don't understand. And poker player looked at the streamer, like, you degenerate, which is hilarious because that poker player is normally, like, the biggest degenerate who sits at a table playing, you know, this, like, stupid card game for five hours straight losing money. Is that real? Well, someone will someone really stream for seven years every single day for ten hours. Yeah. Yeah. That happens.

don't understand. And poker player looked at the streamer, like, you degenerate, which is hilarious because that poker player is normally, like, the biggest degenerate who sits at a table playing, you know, this, like, stupid card game for five hours straight losing money. Is that real? Well, someone will someone really stream for seven years every single day for ten hours. Yeah. Yeah. That happens.

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Like, not ten usually it's not those exact numbers, but people have streamed every day for ten years. And they'll stream like five hour streams or something like that as like their their normal stream. And some guys do ten hour streams, and then they'll usually take one day off a week. Maybe ex I don't know exCC specifics, but like Yeah. He he he's a, like, he's a nut. And when he's streaming, what's he doing? He's playing video games.

Like, not ten usually it's not those exact numbers, but people have streamed every day for ten years. And they'll stream like five hour streams or something like that as like their their normal stream. And some guys do ten hour streams, and then they'll usually take one day off a week. Maybe ex I don't know exCC specifics, but like Yeah. He he he's a, like, he's a nut. And when he's streaming, what's he doing? He's playing video games.

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Any game. So he yeah. He was, like, big in Overwatch, but then Overwatch stopped getting, like, popular. I mean, he got more popular because his personality is pretty big. Like, he he just kinda gets wild on the stream. And so now he'll go he'll do whatever. He'll play, you know, virtual farm simulator. He'll play, like, you know, a shooting game. He'll play, like, whatever the game is, he calls himself a variety streamer, which is basically, like, at that point, they've stopped coming for the game and they're coming for you. And so And is he funny? Like, what what what he's what's great about him?

Any game. So he yeah. He was, like, big in Overwatch, but then Overwatch stopped getting, like, popular. I mean, he got more popular because his personality is pretty big. Like, he he just kinda gets wild on the stream. And so now he'll go he'll do whatever. He'll play, you know, virtual farm simulator. He'll play, like, you know, a shooting game. He'll play, like, whatever the game is, he calls himself a variety streamer, which is basically, like, at that point, they've stopped coming for the game and they're coming for you. And so And is he funny? Like, what what what he's what's great about him?

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He's funny and he, like, he, like, rage he, like, gets enraged pretty quickly, which is, like, a big thing onto it. It's, like, you gotta, like, show emotions. So, like, you see in basketball or, like, golf is the ultimate example of this. And this is where I think traditional sports can learn a lot from online content. Because traditional sports, they teach you, like, if you ever watch a basketball press conference, they're the most boring in the world. It's like, yeah, we're just gonna take it one game at a time. You know, they're a great team, add respect to them.

He's funny and he, like, he, like, rage he, like, gets enraged pretty quickly, which is, like, a big thing onto it. It's, like, you gotta, like, show emotions. So, like, you see in basketball or, like, golf is the ultimate example of this. And this is where I think traditional sports can learn a lot from online content. Because traditional sports, they teach you, like, if you ever watch a basketball press conference, they're the most boring in the world. It's like, yeah, we're just gonna take it one game at a time. You know, they're a great team, add respect to them.

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You know, we just gotta keep putting one foot in front of the other. It's like, oh, great. You know, like, super boring. Whereas you you and I love UFC because that one guy would be like, he ain't shit. I'm gonna kick his team his ass and his whole team's ass. You know, like, they just, like, they, like, talk shit to each other. So that adds a level of, like, drama and excitement.

You know, we just gotta keep putting one foot in front of the other. It's like, oh, great. You know, like, super boring. Whereas you you and I love UFC because that one guy would be like, he ain't shit. I'm gonna kick his team his ass and his whole team's ass. You know, like, they just, like, they, like, talk shit to each other. So that adds a level of, like, drama and excitement.

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Streaming is like that, but, like, twenty four seven where they're just constantly, you know, talking shit to

Streaming is like that, but, like, twenty four seven where they're just constantly, you know, talking shit to

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them to their teammates about themselves,

them to their teammates about themselves,

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about, you know, the game, about, like, the characters, about the strategy, about whatever. So they show a ton of emotions. So if he loses he'll throw the mouse. He'll break the keyboard. He'll, like, you know, like, spit and scream and, you know, like, he'll get angry. How does he have enough energy to do that every single day?

about, you know, the game, about, like, the characters, about the strategy, about whatever. So they show a ton of emotions. So if he loses he'll throw the mouse. He'll break the keyboard. He'll, like, you know, like, spit and scream and, you know, like, he'll get angry. How does he have enough energy to do that every single day?

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Just what he does, man. It's like, he that's And he just sit and he's sitting in a chair for he's sitting in a chair for ten hours a bit different. Yeah. Yeah. He sit in his chair.

Just what he does, man. It's like, he that's And he just sit and he's sitting in a chair for he's sitting in a chair for ten hours a bit different. Yeah. Yeah. He sit in his chair.

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You may not like this, but it is peak physical performance. Exactly. Somebody said this, think, this is hilarious.

You may not like this, but it is peak physical performance. Exactly. Somebody said this, think, this is hilarious.

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Line during the thanks. So she won the that Alexander won the five hundred thousand dollar pot, and then she, like, won another pot. She was, like, up six hundred grand. She came in with fifty k. She had, like, a six hundred fifty thousand dollar chip stack. And, like, she would have so many chips. She couldn't even stack them in time. Like, the next hand needed to be dealt, but her giant her giant chip stack was just blocking the tap the table. And she's like, I need help stacking the chips, and they were like, fuck you. We're not gonna help you stack your chips. You just took from us. And, like, the pit boss comes over to see what they're helping. And then mister Peace goes,

Line during the thanks. So she won the that Alexander won the five hundred thousand dollar pot, and then she, like, won another pot. She was, like, up six hundred grand. She came in with fifty k. She had, like, a six hundred fifty thousand dollar chip stack. And, like, she would have so many chips. She couldn't even stack them in time. Like, the next hand needed to be dealt, but her giant her giant chip stack was just blocking the tap the table. And she's like, I need help stacking the chips, and they were like, fuck you. We're not gonna help you stack your chips. You just took from us. And, like, the pit boss comes over to see what they're helping. And then mister Peace goes,

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She's single handedly gonna close the wage gap.

She's single handedly gonna close the wage gap.

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Yeah. There's just trolls. And,

Yeah. There's just trolls. And,

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it's just amazing. It was amazing. And I just thought that was a great idea, by the way. I like a

it's just amazing. It was amazing. And I just thought that was a great idea, by the way. I like a

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like a high stakes poker game amongst personalities.

like a high stakes poker game amongst personalities.

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In any niche, I actually think that's a good marketing idea.

In any niche, I actually think that's a good marketing idea.

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This one streamer who we're talking about. What's his name?

This one streamer who we're talking about. What's his name?

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Excuse me, in this case. How much money does he make?

Excuse me, in this case. How much money does he make?

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He probably makes between,

He probably makes between,

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I wanna say, three to ten million dollars a year. No way. Really?

I wanna say, three to ten million dollars a year. No way. Really?

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Yeah. Probably five to ten is is a easy estimate.

Yeah. Probably five to ten is is a easy estimate.

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Ten man ten is not even the upper bound. Like, they

Ten man ten is not even the upper bound. Like, they

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these guys can make much more than that, maybe up to twenty, twenty five million if they are

these guys can make much more than that, maybe up to twenty, twenty five million if they are

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maxing out their stuff, but they don't always wanna do that. Like,

maxing out their stuff, but they don't always wanna do that. Like,

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I taught because I used to negotiate with these guys. So, you know,

I taught because I used to negotiate with these guys. So, you know,

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even before Twitch, like, when I was just trying to get them to promote our products,

even before Twitch, like, when I was just trying to get them to promote our products,

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And it's like, alright, I'm gonna talk to I wanna talk to the streamer. It's like, no, you don't get to talk to the streamer. You talk to the manager. Okay. Fair. That's fine. There's stars. I get it. Alright. Who's the manager? Is it like, you know, CAA or, like, WME. And, like, for ninety five percent of them, it's like Oh, it's like his little brother Ray Ray. Yes. I know his girlfriend are, like, you know, Exactly. It's Ray Ray or, like

And it's like, alright, I'm gonna talk to I wanna talk to the streamer. It's like, no, you don't get to talk to the streamer. You talk to the manager. Okay. Fair. That's fine. There's stars. I get it. Alright. Who's the manager? Is it like, you know, CAA or, like, WME. And, like, for ninety five percent of them, it's like Oh, it's like his little brother Ray Ray. Yes. I know his girlfriend are, like, you know, Exactly. It's Ray Ray or, like

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hey, Jenny.

hey, Jenny.

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You know, so how long you guys been working together? It's like, well, we've moved in together at like, when we were sixteen, and then, like, he didn't do anything for five years just by video games all the time. And, like, now he's rich,

You know, so how long you guys been working together? It's like, well, we've moved in together at like, when we were sixteen, and then, like, he didn't do anything for five years just by video games all the time. And, like, now he's rich,

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And so I quit my job to, like, check his email because they'll be they'll be, like, yeah, we do, like, brand deals. I'm, like, cool. So, like, do you have, like, a deck you guys can share about, like, you know, stats? They're, like, No. You could just, like, go on and see how many people watch them. It's, like, a lot. And then it's, like, it's, like, so what, like, you have this deal with, like, red bull and, like, Logitech, like, surely, you have, like, a brand deck. And, like, like, you know, when you pitch them, like, we don't pitch anybody. Like, like, basically, and, you know, as I got to know people, it's like, They just get inbound into their email, and then they just decide they ignore ninety five percent of it, even though it's people literally throwing them, like, like, people can get paid

And so I quit my job to, like, check his email because they'll be they'll be, like, yeah, we do, like, brand deals. I'm, like, cool. So, like, do you have, like, a deck you guys can share about, like, you know, stats? They're, like, No. You could just, like, go on and see how many people watch them. It's, like, a lot. And then it's, like, it's, like, so what, like, you have this deal with, like, red bull and, like, Logitech, like, surely, you have, like, a brand deck. And, like, like, you know, when you pitch them, like, we don't pitch anybody. Like, like, basically, and, you know, as I got to know people, it's like, They just get inbound into their email, and then they just decide they ignore ninety five percent of it, even though it's people literally throwing them, like, like, people can get paid

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like, the small even, like, like, less high profile. Like, ninja is a different tier. Right? Ninja does have a proper manager and, like, actually his girlfriend, I think is his manager now, his wife, but, like, he had a proper agency behind him and they pitch Red Bull and all this stuff. But, like, most streamers, if somebody will approach and be like, hey, I'll pay you two thousand dollars an hour to play my game today.

like, the small even, like, like, less high profile. Like, ninja is a different tier. Right? Ninja does have a proper manager and, like, actually his girlfriend, I think is his manager now, his wife, but, like, he had a proper agency behind him and they pitch Red Bull and all this stuff. But, like, most streamers, if somebody will approach and be like, hey, I'll pay you two thousand dollars an hour to play my game today.

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And they're like, nah, that game looks boring. I'm not gonna do it. Right? Because, like, they don't want to lose their audience or, like, piss off their audience too much or be seen as selling out. And so they turned down so many opportunities that they could have because they don't wanna be seen as a sellout nor do they wanna, like, bother with anything? It's, like, dude, by the time I'm done streaming for ten hours, like, imagine doing this podcast ten hours a day or eight hours a day, you have zero energy left to, like, do anything else. So you just, like, you don't wanna even think about it.

And they're like, nah, that game looks boring. I'm not gonna do it. Right? Because, like, they don't want to lose their audience or, like, piss off their audience too much or be seen as selling out. And so they turned down so many opportunities that they could have because they don't wanna be seen as a sellout nor do they wanna, like, bother with anything? It's, like, dude, by the time I'm done streaming for ten hours, like, imagine doing this podcast ten hours a day or eight hours a day, you have zero energy left to, like, do anything else. So you just, like, you don't wanna even think about it.

38:24

So and do a lot of them have any expenses? So are are they just paying taxes and rent and they're just stacking cash?

So and do a lot of them have any expenses? So are are they just paying taxes and rent and they're just stacking cash?

38:31

Yeah.

Yeah.

38:32

That's exactly it.

That's exactly it.

38:34

I don't know. Some of these streamers, I mean, they could be worth thirty or forty million dollars liquid. Yeah.

I don't know. Some of these streamers, I mean, they could be worth thirty or forty million dollars liquid. Yeah.

38:39

That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah. Like, ninja got paid, you know, I can't say the number, but stupid money to go stream on mixer, like a competitor to Twitch. I think it got leaked. I think the number got leaked because, something happened. Yeah. Maybe. Not sure.

That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah. Like, ninja got paid, you know, I can't say the number, but stupid money to go stream on mixer, like a competitor to Twitch. I think it got leaked. I think the number got leaked because, something happened. Yeah. Maybe. Not sure.

38:53

I think Twitch got hacked and, like, all the the spreadsheet got out. Do you remember what you know what I'm talking about? Well, that's the that's pretty visible anyways. That's that's just what they earn directly. So basically, like, the fan subscribe

I think Twitch got hacked and, like, all the the spreadsheet got out. Do you remember what you know what I'm talking about? Well, that's the that's pretty visible anyways. That's that's just what they earn directly. So basically, like, the fan subscribe

39:04

five dollars a month or six dollars a month or whatever. To the channel

five dollars a month or six dollars a month or whatever. To the channel

39:08

in order to, like,

in order to, like,

39:10

kind of just, like, show their support and get, like, special emojis that they get to use. And, sometimes the streamer can turn it on with subscriber only chat. But,

kind of just, like, show their support and get, like, special emojis that they get to use. And, sometimes the streamer can turn it on with subscriber only chat. But,

39:19

but for the most part, like, they get donations. That

but for the most part, like, they get donations. That

39:22

that most people can't see how much donations they get.

that most people can't see how much donations they get.

39:25

Then they get subscribers directly. That's a monthly recurring subscription.

Then they get subscribers directly. That's a monthly recurring subscription.

39:29

Then there's brand deals and sponsors that didn't show up in the Twitch thing because that goes direct and it's like they just pay the streamer directly. It's not part of Twitch. And so there's, like, other,

Then there's brand deals and sponsors that didn't show up in the Twitch thing because that goes direct and it's like they just pay the streamer directly. It's not part of Twitch. And so there's, like, other,

39:39

and then, you know, games come to them and pay them. Hey, we're doing a brand launch. We want all ten of the big streamers all playing valorant today, and they'll drop, you know, five million dollars on that campaign because they know that if they do that, they become the it game, and millions of people will get to see their favorite streamer playing the game and saying how awesome it is or whatever showing it off. And so it's worth it to them because they're gonna make that way more than that.

and then, you know, games come to them and pay them. Hey, we're doing a brand launch. We want all ten of the big streamers all playing valorant today, and they'll drop, you know, five million dollars on that campaign because they know that if they do that, they become the it game, and millions of people will get to see their favorite streamer playing the game and saying how awesome it is or whatever showing it off. And so it's worth it to them because they're gonna make that way more than that.

40:02

Have you seen intro dot com? Have you been intro dot com?

Have you seen intro dot com? Have you been intro dot com?

40:06

Yeah. I looked at investing in it, but I decided not to. So I talked to the guy who started it. Like, I went to, I went to, like, a car racing class and he, like, a friend of a friend brought him, and I got to hang out with him. He's a cool guy, and he was like, hey, just sign up for intro dot com. And, basically, what you do is you just, like, put that you're available a certain hours amount of, a certain hours a week, and someone will pay you, like, two thousand dollars an hour in fifteen

Yeah. I looked at investing in it, but I decided not to. So I talked to the guy who started it. Like, I went to, I went to, like, a car racing class and he, like, a friend of a friend brought him, and I got to hang out with him. He's a cool guy, and he was like, hey, just sign up for intro dot com. And, basically, what you do is you just, like, put that you're available a certain hours amount of, a certain hours a week, and someone will pay you, like, two thousand dollars an hour in fifteen

40:32

minute increments

minute increments

40:33

to talk to you. And I was like, I don't know, man. I feel kind of sleazy doing that. And he was just try and I was like, okay. Well, you know, you seem nice. Whatever. I'll kind of do it just to like geek out and try this new product and I signed up for it and I've been getting bookings like crazy.

to talk to you. And I was like, I don't know, man. I feel kind of sleazy doing that. And he was just try and I was like, okay. Well, you know, you seem nice. Whatever. I'll kind of do it just to like geek out and try this new product and I signed up for it and I've been getting bookings like crazy.

40:48

And between I'm I'm at I'm at the phase now a little bit where,

And between I'm I'm at I'm at the phase now a little bit where,

40:52

you know, it's coming up on, this July will be a year and a half since the acquisition.

you know, it's coming up on, this July will be a year and a half since the acquisition.

40:58

It's like, alright. Who's counting?

It's like, alright. Who's counting?

41:00

Yeah.

Yeah.

41:06

Hey, Sam. That's my job. How many years you've been married? I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. How many good years you're gonna help out? A year and a half, sixteen

Hey, Sam. That's my job. How many years you've been married? I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah. How many good years you're gonna help out? A year and a half, sixteen

41:14

It's

It's

41:15

like, well, wait, which,

like, well, wait, which,

41:17

which time zone are we are we thinking here? Because I could tell you.

which time zone are we are we thinking here? Because I could tell you.

41:22

So it's coming up to that time. And I'm like,

So it's coming up to that time. And I'm like,

41:24

alright. Do I, like, start a new company? What am I gonna do? What should I be doing? And I signed up the intro and we're doing this and I got that little copy that thing and I got like this airbnb and I'm like,

alright. Do I, like, start a new company? What am I gonna do? What should I be doing? And I signed up the intro and we're doing this and I got that little copy that thing and I got like this airbnb and I'm like,

41:38

Well, besides, like, the fact that, like, I, you I could live off interest, like, off my nut. I'm like, that's kinda cool. Like, there's all this income coming in.

Well, besides, like, the fact that, like, I, you I could live off interest, like, off my nut. I'm like, that's kinda cool. Like, there's all this income coming in.

41:47

There's so much and I'm not trying to like I'm trying to do this like brag shit, but I'm saying like for a creator that has a mildly big audience,

There's so much and I'm not trying to like I'm trying to do this like brag shit, but I'm saying like for a creator that has a mildly big audience,

41:55

There are so many ways to make money. It's pretty astounding. And we're not even that I mean, we're just like semi popular in a relatively small niche.

There are so many ways to make money. It's pretty astounding. And we're not even that I mean, we're just like semi popular in a relatively small niche.

42:05

So like let alone if you're like these Twitch guys and you you're you're actually

So like let alone if you're like these Twitch guys and you you're you're actually

42:10

really popular, but it's it's pretty astounding how many like revenue streams are available to us just because of all these this like weird, all these creator type tool things.

really popular, but it's it's pretty astounding how many like revenue streams are available to us just because of all these this like weird, all these creator type tool things.

42:19

Totally. Like I saw, some guy tweeted today. He goes, bro, Ela Musk. Give me my blue check back and had, like, eighty thousand likes. I was like, who is this guy? He's like, he's a, like, a soccer player at, like, man city or something like that. I was like, and he's got, like, millions of followers. I was like, wow. You know, like, it's like there's so many levels of fame. Like, that guy's not famous at all compared to, like, you know, Justin Bieber or whatever. Bever is not famous compared to whoever. But, like,

Totally. Like I saw, some guy tweeted today. He goes, bro, Ela Musk. Give me my blue check back and had, like, eighty thousand likes. I was like, who is this guy? He's like, he's a, like, a soccer player at, like, man city or something like that. I was like, and he's got, like, millions of followers. I was like, wow. You know, like, it's like there's so many levels of fame. Like, that guy's not famous at all compared to, like, you know, Justin Bieber or whatever. Bever is not famous compared to whoever. But, like,

42:43

you know, down if you go twenty runs down the ladder,

you know, down if you go twenty runs down the ladder,

42:47

it's like we're, like,

it's like we're, like,

42:49

moderately

moderately

42:50

known

known

42:50

in a tiny niche. And then I I sent you that link of that those guys who discussed, like, I don't know, like, bodybuilders or something like that or the the discussing, like, working out or something like that. They have, like, a sick podcasting setup.

in a tiny niche. And then I I sent you that link of that those guys who discussed, like, I don't know, like, bodybuilders or something like that or the the discussing, like, working out or something like that. They have, like, a sick podcasting setup.

43:02

Oh,

Oh,

43:03

yeah. I was on their podcast. They're awesome. What?

yeah. I was on their podcast. They're awesome. What?

43:06

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was on their podcast a couple years ago. The mind body.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was on their podcast a couple years ago. The mind body.

43:11

Wow. Is is it mind body pump or just mind body? Dude, that's that's the ultimate resume for your, for your fitness influencer career.

Wow. Is is it mind body pump or just mind body? Dude, that's that's the ultimate resume for your, for your fitness influencer career.

43:17

I did it. Take it. Yeah. There were, like, I think that video had, like, I don't know, wanna say eighty thousand views or a hundred fifty thousand views or something like that. Well, just not like you hear bigger numbers, but that's big. That's the like,

I did it. Take it. Yeah. There were, like, I think that video had, like, I don't know, wanna say eighty thousand views or a hundred fifty thousand views or something like that. Well, just not like you hear bigger numbers, but that's big. That's the like,

43:28

we get less than that at our YouTube

we get less than that at our YouTube

43:31

And I feel like we're big. Now they're big, and they're in just like another niche, but their niche lets them do a lot more because it's more broad appeal. Like, there's a bunch of dudes out there who wanna be, like, more muscular, like, people wanna lose weight. And so,

And I feel like we're big. Now they're big, and they're in just like another niche, but their niche lets them do a lot more because it's more broad appeal. Like, there's a bunch of dudes out there who wanna be, like, more muscular, like, people wanna lose weight. And so,

43:43

you know, they can flip on one, you know, white labeled supplement or course or whatever the heck they want.

you know, they can flip on one, you know, white labeled supplement or course or whatever the heck they want.

43:49

And, you know, that that type of following can print.

And, you know, that that type of following can print.

43:53

I don't know.

I don't know.

43:54

Again,

Again,

43:55

five to ten million dollars a year, for sure. Possibly, you know, without, like, the stress of being an entrepreneur trying to invent a new product and go to a new niche. And then it it also has a bunch of downsides. Right? Like, the guy's streaming ten hours a day for seven years straight. Like, biggest problem with content is you're usually on a treadmill

five to ten million dollars a year, for sure. Possibly, you know, without, like, the stress of being an entrepreneur trying to invent a new product and go to a new niche. And then it it also has a bunch of downsides. Right? Like, the guy's streaming ten hours a day for seven years straight. Like, biggest problem with content is you're usually on a treadmill

44:11

and, like, you know, you feel like you can't get off. Like, Twitch streamers have this all the time where they feel burnt out because they're just, like, feeling if they stop, they'll lose everything. And it's true. If they stop, they actually do lose quite a bit of, like,

and, like, you know, you feel like you can't get off. Like, Twitch streamers have this all the time where they feel burnt out because they're just, like, feeling if they stop, they'll lose everything. And it's true. If they stop, they actually do lose quite a bit of, like,

44:21

you know, like, sway with not only, you know, their subscribers, but the algorithm and things like that. So, you know, I think that's the downside of these models.

you know, like, sway with not only, you know, their subscribers, but the algorithm and things like that. So, you know, I think that's the downside of these models.

44:29

You have to build a business that's beyond that. So those guys, the what's it called? The I I listen to it all the time. I'm totally blanket. Mindbody Pump is that what it's with Sal and Adam.

You have to build a business that's beyond that. So those guys, the what's it called? The I I listen to it all the time. I'm totally blanket. Mindbody Pump is that what it's with Sal and Adam.

44:39

It's like the they're based out of a Sacramento.

It's like the they're based out of a Sacramento.

44:41

So they

So they

44:43

They just bought a bunch of Airbnb or they bought a bunch of properties and they're turning them into fitness Airbnbs. And so that's like a good example that will it will

They just bought a bunch of Airbnb or they bought a bunch of properties and they're turning them into fitness Airbnbs. And so that's like a good example that will it will

44:50

extend beyond them. But,

extend beyond them. But,

44:53

yeah. I mean, like, what do you do? Like, have there been any examples? I think you know who Jenna Marvel says?

yeah. I mean, like, what do you do? Like, have there been any examples? I think you know who Jenna Marvel says?

44:58

Yeah.

Yeah.

44:59

So she's like she was got popular in my mind when she was on bar stool and then she bailed and went to YouTube and became like one of the biggest YouTubers of all time. I'm pretty sure that she, like, got her cash and got her money. And I don't even think she posts anymore, even though she has

So she's like she was got popular in my mind when she was on bar stool and then she bailed and went to YouTube and became like one of the biggest YouTubers of all time. I'm pretty sure that she, like, got her cash and got her money. And I don't even think she posts anymore, even though she has

45:14

many, many tens of millions of subscribers. How many I internet slows. I can't even pull it up. How many subscribers does she have? She's got a ton on YouTube. I I think it's like fifty or sixty million. She was one of the first people to get popular. I feel like she got popular. Like,

many, many tens of millions of subscribers. How many I internet slows. I can't even pull it up. How many subscribers does she have? She's got a ton on YouTube. I I think it's like fifty or sixty million. She was one of the first people to get popular. I feel like she got popular. Like,

45:28

I wanna even say before YouTube. She got nineteen million subscribers. She's been on for ten years. When was the last video?

I wanna even say before YouTube. She got nineteen million subscribers. She's been on for ten years. When was the last video?

45:36

I have no idea. I don't know. Is she still posting regularly? No. I don't think she posts post regularly, but she has a a brand of dog toys called Kermy and worm and mister Marbles.

I have no idea. I don't know. Is she still posting regularly? No. I don't think she posts post regularly, but she has a a brand of dog toys called Kermy and worm and mister Marbles.

45:48

So she was wanna she she's had twenty if she you said she has twenty million or eighteen million. She's had that forever. And I'm pretty sure she's just, like, made her money and bailed

So she was wanna she she's had twenty if she you said she has twenty million or eighteen million. She's had that forever. And I'm pretty sure she's just, like, made her money and bailed

45:57

and just left.

and just left.

45:58

Yeah. Like her last video was one year ago. It was Casey Nysha did that too. Right? He was

Yeah. Like her last video was one year ago. It was Casey Nysha did that too. Right? He was

46:04

vlogging every day, and then he got paid, and he just says, I'm out. Yeah.

vlogging every day, and then he got paid, and he just says, I'm out. Yeah.

46:09

The way to go. So I think if you're on the on that intense of a treadmill, it's it's pretty tough. If you can't, like, you know, get you out of it. By the way, there's a guy who tweeted at us. He's like, I I think he listens a podcast.

The way to go. So I think if you're on the on that intense of a treadmill, it's it's pretty tough. If you can't, like, you know, get you out of it. By the way, there's a guy who tweeted at us. He's like, I I think he listens a podcast.

46:21

I'm gonna find his, like, exact details later,

I'm gonna find his, like, exact details later,

46:25

because it's hard to just Twitter DM search is like impossible.

because it's hard to just Twitter DM search is like impossible.

46:28

But, basically, there's a guy who's just buying up,

But, basically, there's a guy who's just buying up,

46:31

YouTube channels that are non

YouTube channels that are non

46:34

faced non face u YouTube channels such as the branded as something else.

faced non face u YouTube channels such as the branded as something else.

46:38

So there's no jenna marbles. There's no personality to it.

So there's no jenna marbles. There's no personality to it.

46:42

And, he buys these up for,

And, he buys these up for,

46:45

you know, he basically, you know, he's just looking at their YouTube, like,

you know, he basically, you know, he's just looking at their YouTube, like,

46:50

is looking at their YouTube, like, you know, revenues or whatever. And he's like, cool. I'll make you this offer so I can,

is looking at their YouTube, like, you know, revenues or whatever. And he's like, cool. I'll make you this offer so I can,

46:56

I can buy this thing out for this much or whatever?

I can buy this thing out for this much or whatever?

46:59

And, and it's, like, interesting. I I hadn't really heard of somebody rolling up YouTube channels like that, but I think that's a pretty cool niche. I think That would be a good idea. I think if you did it with a face, it'd be a horrible idea. Because I imagine that if you could make a list of people who you'd like to have work for you, a YouTuber would be incredibly low on that list.

And, and it's, like, interesting. I I hadn't really heard of somebody rolling up YouTube channels like that, but I think that's a pretty cool niche. I think That would be a good idea. I think if you did it with a face, it'd be a horrible idea. Because I imagine that if you could make a list of people who you'd like to have work for you, a YouTuber would be incredibly low on that list.

47:20

Well, yeah. Right? It's hard to buy them out, right, because they, you know, that they no longer have the motivation to,

Well, yeah. Right? It's hard to buy them out, right, because they, you know, that they no longer have the motivation to,

47:27

to create content and then you're stuck because you can't just be like, hey, it's me now.

to create content and then you're stuck because you can't just be like, hey, it's me now.

47:31

I'm here.

I'm here.

47:33

Yeah.

Yeah.

47:34

It's me. We're talking. Hi. I'm here.

It's me. We're talking. Hi. I'm here.

47:42

Alright. What else do we wanna do?

Alright. What else do we wanna do?

47:47

Let's do one of the random one. Dude, so have you ever filed for a trademark,

Let's do one of the random one. Dude, so have you ever filed for a trademark,

47:52

yourself?

yourself?

47:53

It's kind of a pain in the butt, and I think I had a lawyer do it. Yeah. But I, like, went through it. I tried originally like

It's kind of a pain in the butt, and I think I had a lawyer do it. Yeah. But I, like, went through it. I tried originally like

48:00

bootstrapping it and just like do it on my own. I didn't know how to do it. So I get this I get this letter. So this letter comes in the mail.

bootstrapping it and just like do it on my own. I didn't know how to do it. So I get this I get this letter. So this letter comes in the mail.

48:07

Six months after we file. It's from this company called, I don't know if this is WTP.

Six months after we file. It's from this company called, I don't know if this is WTP.

48:13

I'm like, oh, Maybe it's -- Sounds better. -- spatter? Yeah. Sounds legit. Trick and it says at the top trademark publications. And it's got our company name, our address, and it says, reference number blah blah blah, application date blah blah blah,

I'm like, oh, Maybe it's -- Sounds better. -- spatter? Yeah. Sounds legit. Trick and it says at the top trademark publications. And it's got our company name, our address, and it says, reference number blah blah blah, application date blah blah blah,

48:25

classes blah blah blah. And then it has a giant thing of our trademark, and it says, here's your fee for one thousand four hundred twenty dollars. Please pay the amount on acceptance within ten days by check. Don't forget to quote the reference number. Make it payable to a scam. WTP.

classes blah blah blah. And then it has a giant thing of our trademark, and it says, here's your fee for one thousand four hundred twenty dollars. Please pay the amount on acceptance within ten days by check. Don't forget to quote the reference number. Make it payable to a scam. WTP.

48:41

I'm like, oh, cool. But I thought I, pretty sure I already paid for the trademark. So who who's this? What's this for? And then here's what it says in the Like, look at this, five print here in the bottom.

I'm like, oh, cool. But I thought I, pretty sure I already paid for the trademark. So who who's this? What's this for? And then here's what it says in the Like, look at this, five print here in the bottom.

48:53

Yeah. In the bottom

Yeah. In the bottom

48:54

box here. So, like, you see this, like, size three print?

box here. So, like, you see this, like, size three print?

48:58

So here's what this says. Dear madam or sir. Oh, now you're sounding like my uncle in India writing an email to me. Dude, anytime I get a deer, sir, I know it's I know it's not good. Yeah.

So here's what this says. Dear madam or sir. Oh, now you're sounding like my uncle in India writing an email to me. Dude, anytime I get a deer, sir, I know it's I know it's not good. Yeah.

49:10

A deer, sir, and, I hate

A deer, sir, and, I hate

49:14

buying.

buying.

49:16

Dear sucka.

Dear sucka.

49:18

Alright. So it says the publication of your public registration is

Alright. So it says the publication of your public registration is

49:22

the the publication

the the publication

49:24

of your public registration of your trademark is the basis of our offer. What does that mean? All they're gonna do is just publicize

of your public registration of your trademark is the basis of our offer. What does that mean? All they're gonna do is just publicize

49:31

that we have made a trademark. That's what they're charging me for fourteen hundred dollars for. Do they work for the trademark office? No. It says so here here's what it says.

that we have made a trademark. That's what they're charging me for fourteen hundred dollars for. Do they work for the trademark office? No. It says so here here's what it says.

49:40

This is an offer for free entry into our database w w w dot w p t w t p dash register dot com. This is not an invoice. You are not required to pay the above amount unless you accept this offer. All of the details are in our general terms and conditions. Right? It's like, what a scam. And that, you know, the all they do is they just monitor every trademark filing, which is, like, gotta be, you know, I don't know, whatever tens of thousands a year. And then they just send this letter out, and they're just fishing for a sucker. The fishing dude, it's just like a sir out there. The the car, the one sir. Yeah. Sir, short for sucker.

This is an offer for free entry into our database w w w dot w p t w t p dash register dot com. This is not an invoice. You are not required to pay the above amount unless you accept this offer. All of the details are in our general terms and conditions. Right? It's like, what a scam. And that, you know, the all they do is they just monitor every trademark filing, which is, like, gotta be, you know, I don't know, whatever tens of thousands a year. And then they just send this letter out, and they're just fishing for a sucker. The fishing dude, it's just like a sir out there. The the car, the one sir. Yeah. Sir, short for sucker.

50:15

They're

They're

50:16

they're just looking for, have you seen the car warranty or home warranty shit?

they're just looking for, have you seen the car warranty or home warranty shit?

50:21

No. Is it the same?

No. Is it the same?

50:24

It's the same thing. Have you ever met anyone who runs one of these scams?

It's the same thing. Have you ever met anyone who runs one of these scams?

50:28

No. If I did, I'd give him a strong talking to.

No. If I did, I'd give him a strong talking to.

50:31

It would be really fun to, like, just like,

It would be really fun to, like, just like,

50:35

have you seen on, on the office, they go, Michael Scott has to ask the question, but he can't sound mean. And instead of saying, How do you sleep at night? He just says, how do you sleep at night? That's just like that and that's like what I

have you seen on, on the office, they go, Michael Scott has to ask the question, but he can't sound mean. And instead of saying, How do you sleep at night? He just says, how do you sleep at night? That's just like that and that's like what I

50:50

like it's like when

like it's like when

50:51

to, like, the bosses are around, but Toby's leaving. And then he's gotta change his question to, like, where do you get off?

to, like, the bosses are around, but Toby's leaving. And then he's gotta change his question to, like, where do you get off?

51:03

Who do you think you are?

Who do you think you are?

51:08

That's, like, the type of questions I wanna ask these people. What do you like, what do you how do you go to bed at night knowing that you're just, That's good question. To you, WTP,

That's, like, the type of questions I wanna ask these people. What do you like, what do you how do you go to bed at night knowing that you're just, That's good question. To you, WTP,

51:17

How do you sleep at night?

How do you sleep at night?

51:20

Yeah. That's what we wanna know. Here at my first Tuesday. Sleep at night.

Yeah. That's what we wanna know. Here at my first Tuesday. Sleep at night.

51:30

That's amazing. Alright. We can wrap it up there. I had a bunch of ideas. We didn't talk about any of them, but that's okay. We'll do it next month.

That's amazing. Alright. We can wrap it up there. I had a bunch of ideas. We didn't talk about any of them, but that's okay. We'll do it next month.

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