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Like, the point of business and money is like to live a really long and good life, and the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two, number one is just like being fit. And I wanted to spend ten minutes talking about my personal well, I was like, what do engineers say? They say, like, tech stack marketing stack. Let's talk about our Body stack.

Like, the point of business and money is like to live a really long and good life, and the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two, number one is just like being fit. And I wanted to spend ten minutes talking about my personal well, I was like, what do engineers say? They say, like, tech stack marketing stack. Let's talk about our Body stack.

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Alright. It's Friday, and, we're gonna do something a little different. So, you know, people know us. They know us for our brains.

Alright. It's Friday, and, we're gonna do something a little different. So, you know, people know us. They know us for our brains.

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They know us for our money,

They know us for our money,

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but they also know us for our body.

but they also know us for our body.

00:39

Me and Sam were doing an episode. And for some reason, we got on a thirty minute tangent

Me and Sam were doing an episode. And for some reason, we got on a thirty minute tangent

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about

about

00:45

fitness as an entrepreneur, fitness as a, as a business person, what we do

fitness as an entrepreneur, fitness as a, as a business person, what we do

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more specifically, like what's the routines, what are the, what are the things that are working for us, what are the tactics, what are the goals we have, things like that, so we decided to make it a separate episode. So this is, this is the body episode of my first meal. Let us know if you like it. Sam, what what did What are what are they gonna get by listening to this? I name drop. Lots of products that I pay for. None of these people have paid me. I'm more than happy to accept payment from them. So if you're, you know, my fitness pal yeah.

more specifically, like what's the routines, what are the, what are the things that are working for us, what are the tactics, what are the goals we have, things like that, so we decided to make it a separate episode. So this is, this is the body episode of my first meal. Let us know if you like it. Sam, what what did What are what are they gonna get by listening to this? I name drop. Lots of products that I pay for. None of these people have paid me. I'm more than happy to accept payment from them. So if you're, you know, my fitness pal yeah.

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I use my fitness pal. I love it. So if you guys wanna give me some money. Let's just order it out there. If you are one of these companies or a competitor to one of these companies, pay us. Yeah. Willing to be bought.

I use my fitness pal. I love it. So if you guys wanna give me some money. Let's just order it out there. If you are one of these companies or a competitor to one of these companies, pay us. Yeah. Willing to be bought.

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So anyway, it's a thirty minute episode on is it thirty, maybe twenty on, different fitness stuff and the things that we spend our money on to be fit, which basically is kind of more important than the whole making money thing because if you're fit and you're not healthy. You can't really do that thing. So we talked to all about it. As one of our friends as one of our friends who's, you know, super successful. They've been a guest on the podcast before worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They said this once, and I can't use their name because it's a little not politically correct, but they said this.

So anyway, it's a thirty minute episode on is it thirty, maybe twenty on, different fitness stuff and the things that we spend our money on to be fit, which basically is kind of more important than the whole making money thing because if you're fit and you're not healthy. You can't really do that thing. So we talked to all about it. As one of our friends as one of our friends who's, you know, super successful. They've been a guest on the podcast before worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They said this once, and I can't use their name because it's a little not politically correct, but they said this.

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If you're rich, there's no excuse to be fat.

If you're rich, there's no excuse to be fat.

02:02

And they said that because I was like, man, you spend a lot of time

And they said that because I was like, man, you spend a lot of time

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like, working out? Like, what are what are you trying to do here? And they just said, like, look, the point of having financial freedom is to be able to spend it on spend your time doing things that are, like, you know, luxuries, things that, like, make your life better. And one of the things that makes your life way better is

like, working out? Like, what are what are you trying to do here? And they just said, like, look, the point of having financial freedom is to be able to spend it on spend your time doing things that are, like, you know, luxuries, things that, like, make your life better. And one of the things that makes your life way better is

02:20

having a good, like, kind of fitness routine on being, you know, a healthy fit person. And so That's kind of the idea. Sam is extremely fit. Sam, you're, like, in the

having a good, like, kind of fitness routine on being, you know, a healthy fit person. And so That's kind of the idea. Sam is extremely fit. Sam, you're, like, in the

02:29

top point one percent, probably of, like, founders who are fit. Well, yeah. I mean, that's I I added the founder Venn diagram. Yeah. Give me that founder thing. And, yeah, we'll definitely call it point one percent. But, you know, that's, like,

top point one percent, probably of, like, founders who are fit. Well, yeah. I mean, that's I I added the founder Venn diagram. Yeah. Give me that founder thing. And, yeah, we'll definitely call it point one percent. But, you know, that's, like,

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That that's an easy that's an easy game to win, maybe.

That that's an easy that's an easy game to win, maybe.

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And I've been going from pretty unfit to now, like, you know, as we say, I was the before before photo. Now I'm just a before photo, and I'm get into the after. And so you get both perspectives. You get the perspective of somebody who's, like, all about that life and somebody who is, like, you know, doesn't come easy to them, but they're they're making it happen. So yeah, enjoy the episode.

And I've been going from pretty unfit to now, like, you know, as we say, I was the before before photo. Now I'm just a before photo, and I'm get into the after. And so you get both perspectives. You get the perspective of somebody who's, like, all about that life and somebody who is, like, you know, doesn't come easy to them, but they're they're making it happen. So yeah, enjoy the episode.

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Alright. We live. What's going on? How are you? I'm sore

Alright. We live. What's going on? How are you? I'm sore

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from what?

from what?

03:10

So I went I went on Craigslist, because I I had I wanted something. And I think Craigslist is massively

So I went I went on Craigslist, because I I had I wanted something. And I think Craigslist is massively

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underrated.

underrated.

03:17

Craigslist is so good. There is if you want a job, Craigslist, if you wanna couch, Craigslist, if you wanna learn something, Craigslist, if you wanna hook up Craigslist, whatever you want. Craigslist has got the thing for you. And it has the most liquidity. So you go in there, and I I was looking for a,

Craigslist is so good. There is if you want a job, Craigslist, if you wanna couch, Craigslist, if you wanna learn something, Craigslist, if you wanna hook up Craigslist, whatever you want. Craigslist has got the thing for you. And it has the most liquidity. So you go in there, and I I was looking for a,

03:35

a new, new chef. And so I went on there, and I was like, do chef immediately started getting hit with things. And I was like, why don't I use Craigslist more? Look at these responses. This is amazing. So I was like, what else do I want? Right? Craig, this is my, like, magic lamp. It's the genie, and I need to go and I need to make another wish. And so I go

a new, new chef. And so I went on there, and I was like, do chef immediately started getting hit with things. And I was like, why don't I use Craigslist more? Look at these responses. This is amazing. So I was like, what else do I want? Right? Craig, this is my, like, magic lamp. It's the genie, and I need to go and I need to make another wish. And so I go

03:53

Oh, yeah. Remember that video of Mark Zuckerberg? And so this is the part I learned from you, which is

Oh, yeah. Remember that video of Mark Zuckerberg? And so this is the part I learned from you, which is

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describe it like a kid with no filter. So I literally just put up a video. I I I've put up the post I go.

describe it like a kid with no filter. So I literally just put up a video. I I I've put up the post I go.

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Hey. I was watching I was on TikTok and I saw this video. It looked awesome.

Hey. I was watching I was on TikTok and I saw this video. It looked awesome.

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I wanna do that.

I wanna do that.

04:13

So I was like, I wanna do that. That looks fun. And I was like, will you come I was like, will somebody come to my house to just, like, train me kinda like that? Yeah. I don't I'm not I'm a beginner, and I don't even really wanna ever fight I just think that looks like a really fun workout.

So I was like, I wanna do that. That looks fun. And I was like, will you come I was like, will somebody come to my house to just, like, train me kinda like that? Yeah. I don't I'm not I'm a beginner, and I don't even really wanna ever fight I just think that looks like a really fun workout.

04:29

So I wanna do that.

So I wanna do that.

04:32

I don't know who I need. You don't have to be an for just, like, somebody who could just watch that video. And if you think you could do that for me, then, just call me or maybe text me. Whatever.

I don't know who I need. You don't have to be an for just, like, somebody who could just watch that video. And if you think you could do that for me, then, just call me or maybe text me. Whatever.

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That's how it goes.

That's how it goes.

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So I posted that. And immediately, I I got a hit from some guy who's like, hey,

So I posted that. And immediately, I I got a hit from some guy who's like, hey,

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I did MMA for ten years. I could totally trade you. He's like, I trained with the Diaz brothers in in Stockton.

I did MMA for ten years. I could totally trade you. He's like, I trained with the Diaz brothers in in Stockton.

04:58

And, you know, I'm a Caesar Gracey purple belt. I'm a striker, but I was like, whoa, okay. Great. He's like,

And, you know, I'm a Caesar Gracey purple belt. I'm a striker, but I was like, whoa, okay. Great. He's like,

05:04

he's like, and so he calls me.

he's like, and so he calls me.

05:07

And I'm like, alright. Yeah. Do I need, like, equipment or, like, how do I do this? And he was just like, no. You he's like, you don't need anything. Was like, what do you do during the day? He's like, I'm a handyman.

And I'm like, alright. Yeah. Do I need, like, equipment or, like, how do I do this? And he was just like, no. You he's like, you don't need anything. Was like, what do you do during the day? He's like, I'm a handyman.

05:18

And I was like, he's like, oh, this is cool because I'll get back into shape too. And I was like, alright. Sounds fun. And he's like, Did he, like, fixed a bunch of stuff afterwards at your house? No. But I in my mind, I was like, dude, I've been looking for a handyman too. Like, my life's always on me about building and assembling things and hanging things. I was like, this is two for one, baby. And so Which basically means this guy is, like, a professor, like, his He's the reason he was on Craigslist, he was probably looking for handyman gigs. Yeah. Exactly.

And I was like, he's like, oh, this is cool because I'll get back into shape too. And I was like, alright. Sounds fun. And he's like, Did he, like, fixed a bunch of stuff afterwards at your house? No. But I in my mind, I was like, dude, I've been looking for a handyman too. Like, my life's always on me about building and assembling things and hanging things. I was like, this is two for one, baby. And so Which basically means this guy is, like, a professor, like, his He's the reason he was on Craigslist, he was probably looking for handyman gigs. Yeah. Exactly.

05:45

He just happened to see this. It was like, oh, I used to will pass. And so he goes,

He just happened to see this. It was like, oh, I used to will pass. And so he goes,

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And the and what I why I knew he would be good? He goes, what are you doing today?

And the and what I why I knew he would be good? He goes, what are you doing today?

05:56

And I was like,

And I was like,

05:58

I was, like, mentally not prepared to, like, immediately get in a fight today. So I was, like, no. But how about tomorrow is he? Alright. I'll be there. What time? I was, like, I don't know. Let's do the morning. He goes great. I'll be there at eight AM. That was, like, shit. And so he came over. We train. And he came over, by the way, looking like a handyman. He comes over in his, like, handyman boots, his, like, you know, like, those jeans that are, like, covered in paint, and he's, like, rolls up. He's got, like, a parrot. He's got a set of keys that has, like, fourteen hundred keys on it. I was like, bro, do you have the keys to my house? What's going on here? And so he just got all these keys, all he brings his boots, and he's just like, he's one of these guys that works out in his jeans or what? Yeah. So he basically did the whole workout in his jeans, which was crazy to me. He's like throwing kicks in his combat boots. And I was like, what the hell is going on?

I was, like, mentally not prepared to, like, immediately get in a fight today. So I was, like, no. But how about tomorrow is he? Alright. I'll be there. What time? I was, like, I don't know. Let's do the morning. He goes great. I'll be there at eight AM. That was, like, shit. And so he came over. We train. And he came over, by the way, looking like a handyman. He comes over in his, like, handyman boots, his, like, you know, like, those jeans that are, like, covered in paint, and he's, like, rolls up. He's got, like, a parrot. He's got a set of keys that has, like, fourteen hundred keys on it. I was like, bro, do you have the keys to my house? What's going on here? And so he just got all these keys, all he brings his boots, and he's just like, he's one of these guys that works out in his jeans or what? Yeah. So he basically did the whole workout in his jeans, which was crazy to me. He's like throwing kicks in his combat boots. And I was like, what the hell is going on?

06:44

But he knew what he was talking about. And so he trade me, and I'm still super sore. It was incredible. My hand I had to ice my knuckles My hand wasn't so much pain last night. It was great. I don't know if this is legit. It felt like a real Did you did some did you do a little reference checking? Like, I I don't know if that's how it works. No. I don't do reference checks. I I That's alright. Back at all times.

But he knew what he was talking about. And so he trade me, and I'm still super sore. It was incredible. My hand I had to ice my knuckles My hand wasn't so much pain last night. It was great. I don't know if this is legit. It felt like a real Did you did some did you do a little reference checking? Like, I I don't know if that's how it works. No. I don't do reference checks. I I That's alright. Back at all times.

07:04

Did you like wrestle or did you just see, like, did you roll? What did you do?

Did you like wrestle or did you just see, like, did you roll? What did you do?

07:08

Yeah. Well, he's like, alright. We're gonna start with the basics. He's like, here's how you move your feet. He's like, man, here's how you throw a jab. He's, like, you know,

Yeah. Well, he's like, alright. We're gonna start with the basics. He's like, here's how you move your feet. He's like, man, here's how you throw a jab. He's, like, you know,

07:15

you know, you know these things, but he's like, you know, clean it up. Right? Like, let's do these right.

you know, you know these things, but he's like, you know, clean it up. Right? Like, let's do these right.

07:20

And then but I told him I was like, dude, I don't wanna just learn tactics. Like, I'm not here to learn technique. I learned just enough technique to make the session worth it. But I was like, I was like, you know, that video, I was like, the I want the sweat that they were breaking. I want the way that they were breaking that sweat. A competitive sweat is what I'm looking for. And then he he hits me with this. He goes, yeah, I didn't watch the video, but I I got an idea what you want. I was bro. There was only one thing in the ad. It was one two minute video. You don't even watch the video. He's like, no. And, but at the end, we basically, like, sparred. And so for ten minutes, we just, like, fought. And it was amazing. My brother-in-law came. So, long time this was the pod, no. Brother Aaron, he he was there. So Aaron, he kinda, like, bowed or not Vouch, but he kinda checked the guy out?

And then but I told him I was like, dude, I don't wanna just learn tactics. Like, I'm not here to learn technique. I learned just enough technique to make the session worth it. But I was like, I was like, you know, that video, I was like, the I want the sweat that they were breaking. I want the way that they were breaking that sweat. A competitive sweat is what I'm looking for. And then he he hits me with this. He goes, yeah, I didn't watch the video, but I I got an idea what you want. I was bro. There was only one thing in the ad. It was one two minute video. You don't even watch the video. He's like, no. And, but at the end, we basically, like, sparred. And so for ten minutes, we just, like, fought. And it was amazing. My brother-in-law came. So, long time this was the pod, no. Brother Aaron, he he was there. So Aaron, he kinda, like, bowed or not Vouch, but he kinda checked the guy out?

08:04

No. Nothing to check the guy out. He was just, like, my sparring partner to do the thing. Dude, I'm reading this is so funny you're breaking this up this morning. You know, I listen to, like, three audio books a week. This because I go, I like walking. Well, I, you know, I like walking. And,

No. Nothing to check the guy out. He was just, like, my sparring partner to do the thing. Dude, I'm reading this is so funny you're breaking this up this morning. You know, I listen to, like, three audio books a week. This because I go, I like walking. Well, I, you know, I like walking. And,

08:18

the book that I'm listening to now. It's called when violence is the answer.

the book that I'm listening to now. It's called when violence is the answer.

08:22

And

And

08:25

By so far.

By so far.

08:29

And the premises is that basically, like, violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it's the only answer

And the premises is that basically, like, violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it's the only answer

08:37

And when it is the only answer, you wanna act fast and as violently as possible.

And when it is the only answer, you wanna act fast and as violently as possible.

08:43

And, it just tells, like, stories that, like, he's like, I'm not teaching you tactics. We're gonna talk principles, and that the whole book is basically, like,

And, it just tells, like, stories that, like, he's like, I'm not teaching you tactics. We're gonna talk principles, and that the whole book is basically, like,

08:51

when you have to be violent, you wanna annihilate them as fast as possible and take their mind completely out of the equation. Because, like, it's, like, if you ever get in, like, punching the balls, you're like, oh, I can't fight. Like, there's nothing I can think about right now. Right. Or imagine, like, being in a fight and, like, just having your elbow broken. You know what I mean? You're like, I I can't do anything right now. Like, I I don't even wanna think about this versus, like, punch in the face. Sometimes you could still, like, anyway,

when you have to be violent, you wanna annihilate them as fast as possible and take their mind completely out of the equation. Because, like, it's, like, if you ever get in, like, punching the balls, you're like, oh, I can't fight. Like, there's nothing I can think about right now. Right. Or imagine, like, being in a fight and, like, just having your elbow broken. You know what I mean? You're like, I I can't do anything right now. Like, I I don't even wanna think about this versus, like, punch in the face. Sometimes you could still, like, anyway,

09:14

it's so funny you're doing this now because have to give you the cliff notes of when violence is the answer as soon as I dig deeper into it.

it's so funny you're doing this now because have to give you the cliff notes of when violence is the answer as soon as I dig deeper into it.

09:24

Anyways. It's a it was an amazing workout. And I I think my my takeaway is,

Anyways. It's a it was an amazing workout. And I I think my my takeaway is,

09:28

Zuck and his inner so Zuck went on Joe rogan. He was talking about it and just like, you're doing MMA now. And he's like, Yeah. You know, but,

Zuck and his inner so Zuck went on Joe rogan. He was talking about it and just like, you're doing MMA now. And he's like, Yeah. You know, but,

09:35

I just, whatever. He gives some reason for starting. He goes,

I just, whatever. He gives some reason for starting. He goes,

09:39

it's not like, why are you doing MMA? It's more he's like, now that I'm doing it, I'm like, Why have I not been doing this my whole life? Because this is it it's clearly the best. And he he says it, like, and it's such a

it's not like, why are you doing MMA? It's more he's like, now that I'm doing it, I'm like, Why have I not been doing this my whole life? Because this is it it's clearly the best. And he he says it, like, and it's such a

09:51

you know, computer nerd sort of way where it's like, I've found the best workout. Right? Like, it's, like, in the office. What is the best bear?

you know, computer nerd sort of way where it's like, I've found the best workout. Right? Like, it's, like, in the office. What is the best bear?

10:00

There is a best there is a best pair. So that that's how he was saying it. And I was like,

There is a best there is a best pair. So that that's how he was saying it. And I was like,

10:05

yeah. Exactly.

yeah. Exactly.

10:07

MMA is the best bear. And so that's how I that's how when he said that, I was like, yeah, it's probably right. And, I like the idea of getting competitive sweat in the morning, and I told the guy, I go, look, I'm a sit up my keyboard all day after this.

MMA is the best bear. And so that's how I that's how when he said that, I was like, yeah, it's probably right. And, I like the idea of getting competitive sweat in the morning, and I told the guy, I go, look, I'm a sit up my keyboard all day after this.

10:19

But, like, if I could start the day with kind of, like, a this, like, very intense,

But, like, if I could start the day with kind of, like, a this, like, very intense,

10:24

can't think about anything else type of workout. Right? Like, extreme focus is required. My mind is not gonna be drifting around thinking about the to do list and about this and about that, my email.

can't think about anything else type of workout. Right? Like, extreme focus is required. My mind is not gonna be drifting around thinking about the to do list and about this and about that, my email.

10:35

No. I'm gonna be locked into this. It's a very primal thing. I'm gonna break a huge sweat. And then I can go on with my day. And everything else in my day, I will have, it'll be much easier. I know I'm preaching to the choir with you, but I I feel like that's been my, my realization with it. So I wanna and I actually wanted to spend ten minutes and and bring this topic up because you sent me this gym picture and your gym looked sick. And I and, like, two years ago or a year and a half oh, you saw mine and you're like, I'm gonna get one and you got one and it looks awesome. And then, like, four years ago, maybe you weren't in the best of shape and you've made a big difference in so have I in terms of fitness And I was thinking, I saw this guy. He's a picture of a seventy one year old. His name's Mark. He started prime or

No. I'm gonna be locked into this. It's a very primal thing. I'm gonna break a huge sweat. And then I can go on with my day. And everything else in my day, I will have, it'll be much easier. I know I'm preaching to the choir with you, but I I feel like that's been my, my realization with it. So I wanna and I actually wanted to spend ten minutes and and bring this topic up because you sent me this gym picture and your gym looked sick. And I and, like, two years ago or a year and a half oh, you saw mine and you're like, I'm gonna get one and you got one and it looks awesome. And then, like, four years ago, maybe you weren't in the best of shape and you've made a big difference in so have I in terms of fitness And I was thinking, I saw this guy. He's a picture of a seventy one year old. His name's Mark. He started prime or

11:17

primal kitchen, I think it's called. And it's like a sauce business that I love, but he's seventy one years old and he shared this picture of him and he just great. He's not, like, huge muscle guy, but he's, like, really fit abs looks awesome.

primal kitchen, I think it's called. And it's like a sauce business that I love, but he's seventy one years old and he shared this picture of him and he just great. He's not, like, huge muscle guy, but he's, like, really fit abs looks awesome.

11:30

And I realized this is the point of business Like, the point of business and money is, like, a, there's, like, some practical reasons, so providing for your your family, two, it's fun and fulfilling.

And I realized this is the point of business Like, the point of business and money is, like, a, there's, like, some practical reasons, so providing for your your family, two, it's fun and fulfilling.

11:41

But three, like, the point is like to live a really long and good life, and the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two, number one is just like being fit. And I wanted to spend ten minutes talking about

But three, like, the point is like to live a really long and good life, and the really the best way to do that money is maybe number two, number one is just like being fit. And I wanted to spend ten minutes talking about

11:53

my personal well, I was like, what do engineers say? They say, like, tech stack, marketing stack. Let's talk about our body stack.

my personal well, I was like, what do engineers say? They say, like, tech stack, marketing stack. Let's talk about our body stack.

12:00

Our our tech stack. Not our tech stack.

Our our tech stack. Not our tech stack.

12:04

And I wanted to run what run through all the things that I'm currently doing. And I would put myself in the category of a weekend warrior. Meaning, I don't have, like, formal education on this, but I do listen to podcasts and I read books and I'm, like, self educated, which means You know, like, I'm a b maybe, or not not an expert, but,

And I wanted to run what run through all the things that I'm currently doing. And I would put myself in the category of a weekend warrior. Meaning, I don't have, like, formal education on this, but I do listen to podcasts and I read books and I'm, like, self educated, which means You know, like, I'm a b maybe, or not not an expert, but,

12:22

I, I, I, I try to read and learn and and teach myself.

I, I, I, I try to read and learn and and teach myself.

12:26

Okay. Great. Go for it. Alright. So let me walk through. So what I do, and then I want and I'll go first and then you could go because I know you didn't prepare, so you can kinda like think about it as I do it. So what I do, I do four four days a week of strength training and then the other three days cardio. Those are usually lifting weights or body weight

Okay. Great. Go for it. Alright. So let me walk through. So what I do, and then I want and I'll go first and then you could go because I know you didn't prepare, so you can kinda like think about it as I do it. So what I do, I do four four days a week of strength training and then the other three days cardio. Those are usually lifting weights or body weight

12:42

stuff. So that means you're working out every day? You're doing seven days, or you take a rest day, some days you do two? I do I do every single day. The day that I wanna rest is, I'll just go for, like, fifteen thousand step walk, which is like a two hour walk.

stuff. So that means you're working out every day? You're doing seven days, or you take a rest day, some days you do two? I do I do every single day. The day that I wanna rest is, I'll just go for, like, fifteen thousand step walk, which is like a two hour walk.

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That's that's usually rest. And then I sleep from eleven to seven. And right now, I'm around eleven or twelve percent body fat with and I have a background in in athletics. So I'm not, like, a complete new, but I basically just learned all about this in the last, like, six, seven years. I I used to just do what I was told. Now I kinda know why I'm doing what I'm told. And my goals with with healthy eating and working out is basically,

That's that's usually rest. And then I sleep from eleven to seven. And right now, I'm around eleven or twelve percent body fat with and I have a background in in athletics. So I'm not, like, a complete new, but I basically just learned all about this in the last, like, six, seven years. I I used to just do what I was told. Now I kinda know why I'm doing what I'm told. And my goals with with healthy eating and working out is basically,

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three things. One, live a long and healthy life, two, look good naked,

three things. One, live a long and healthy life, two, look good naked,

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and three,

and three,

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like, achieve certain, like, fun goals, like, running a raised, hitting a certain body fat percentage, lifting a certain amount of weight, just fun stuff. But that's really the simple stuff. To people don't admit that. It's I just wanna look at naked. You know what I mean? That's not weird.

like, achieve certain, like, fun goals, like, running a raised, hitting a certain body fat percentage, lifting a certain amount of weight, just fun stuff. But that's really the simple stuff. To people don't admit that. It's I just wanna look at naked. You know what I mean? That's not weird.

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That's not weird. That's not weird. You just don't have to say that's not weird. Might be a little weird.

That's not weird. That's not weird. You just don't have to say that's not weird. Might be a little weird.

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Look, I'm just saying what people think.

Look, I'm just saying what people think.

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Sorry. Here's the products that I use.

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For I spent two hundred ninety nine dollars a month, three hundred dollars a month, and I have a trainer at central athlete. It's a place in Austin. They they I have an app. They just tell me exactly what to do. And if I have questions or an injury or I'm traveling, I text my trainer, Jesse, and I say, traveling. Let's adapt this workout. And then we meet once a month to say, alright, here's the goals for the next month. Let's try and do this. Here's my goals for next year. Let's work backwards.

For I spent two hundred ninety nine dollars a month, three hundred dollars a month, and I have a trainer at central athlete. It's a place in Austin. They they I have an app. They just tell me exactly what to do. And if I have questions or an injury or I'm traveling, I text my trainer, Jesse, and I say, traveling. Let's adapt this workout. And then we meet once a month to say, alright, here's the goals for the next month. Let's try and do this. Here's my goals for next year. Let's work backwards.

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The second thing I do is I pay six hundred dollars a month for a daily call from a nutritionist with my body tutor. Soon, I'm gonna switch to the two hundred dollar a month and that's gonna be a once a week call, I think. But, I spend six hundred dollars a month and basically have someone calling me every day saying, what's the plan today for your diet?

The second thing I do is I pay six hundred dollars a month for a daily call from a nutritionist with my body tutor. Soon, I'm gonna switch to the two hundred dollar a month and that's gonna be a once a week call, I think. But, I spend six hundred dollars a month and basically have someone calling me every day saying, what's the plan today for your diet?

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Let's work backwards from where you wanna go. Whatever. It's a fifteen minute call.

Let's work backwards from where you wanna go. Whatever. It's a fifteen minute call.

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The third thing is I spent around three thousand to five thousand dollars front cost, and I built a home gym. Maybe it could have been twenty five hundred, but I think it was probably thirty five hundred.

The third thing is I spent around three thousand to five thousand dollars front cost, and I built a home gym. Maybe it could have been twenty five hundred, but I think it was probably thirty five hundred.

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The second thing or the the Another thing is I do blood work. So two to three times a year, I spend on average two hundred to three hundred dollars, and I give I do inside tracker. It's just a fun way to track your blood.

The second thing or the the Another thing is I do blood work. So two to three times a year, I spend on average two hundred to three hundred dollars, and I give I do inside tracker. It's just a fun way to track your blood.

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And and and see, like, where you are and see if you can improve things that were not so great the the time before. The next thing is I get massage massages

And and and see, like, where you are and see if you can improve things that were not so great the the time before. The next thing is I get massage massages

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one two days a week at this place called RunLab in Austin, which basically just I have a history of calf injuries, and so they massage my calf, and it's covered by insurance. So I didn't pay I only pay about twenty bucks each time I go. And then I do, a subscription to Active. Have you heard of Active?

one two days a week at this place called RunLab in Austin, which basically just I have a history of calf injuries, and so they massage my calf, and it's covered by insurance. So I didn't pay I only pay about twenty bucks each time I go. And then I do, a subscription to Active. Have you heard of Active?

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Yeah. It's like a audio workout thing? Yeah. Pay a hundred dollars a year for that. And so whenever I'm traveling and I need to do a body body weight workout, like I did this weekend, I say I wanna do a sixty minute body weight workout and it's like a trainer in your ears. And I find that to be fun. The next thing is I do, my fitness pal. I track everything I eat, and I spend sixty bucks a year on that. And then I spend a hundred dollars a year for fit fitive, it's called. It's an whenever I do cardio, I always try to keep my heart rate right at, like, a hundred and forty five beats per minute. If I'm doing, like, a long cardio workout, because that's, like, perfect. Like, I think it's zone three, zone two. It's one of the zones that I wanna, like, stay in.

Yeah. It's like a audio workout thing? Yeah. Pay a hundred dollars a year for that. And so whenever I'm traveling and I need to do a body body weight workout, like I did this weekend, I say I wanna do a sixty minute body weight workout and it's like a trainer in your ears. And I find that to be fun. The next thing is I do, my fitness pal. I track everything I eat, and I spend sixty bucks a year on that. And then I spend a hundred dollars a year for fit fitive, it's called. It's an whenever I do cardio, I always try to keep my heart rate right at, like, a hundred and forty five beats per minute. If I'm doing, like, a long cardio workout, because that's, like, perfect. Like, I think it's zone three, zone two. It's one of the zones that I wanna, like, stay in.

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And then I basically subscribe to Pandora. I'm like the only guy ever who pays money for Pandora. So I I pay money for Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Audible, and I listen to all those when I work out because I love doing that. Next,

And then I basically subscribe to Pandora. I'm like the only guy ever who pays money for Pandora. So I I pay money for Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Audible, and I listen to all those when I work out because I love doing that. Next,

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I have zero budget for whole foods and healthy foods. Whatever I see, and I want I get. I don't question the price. I just think I'm doing it no matter what.

I have zero budget for whole foods and healthy foods. Whatever I see, and I want I get. I don't question the price. I just think I'm doing it no matter what.

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And then finally, I probably spend around a thousand dollars a year on equipment. So I have lifting shoes. I have like a lifting belt. I replace my running shoes consistently, and I buy any type of equipment that I need I always,

And then finally, I probably spend around a thousand dollars a year on equipment. So I have lifting shoes. I have like a lifting belt. I replace my running shoes consistently, and I buy any type of equipment that I need I always,

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I buy it. And then finally, I listened to Nick Bear. You know who that is? Remember that ripped dude? Yeah. He came on the spot. Yeah. He's amazing. So I listen to his podcast and I listen to Mind Body Pump. That's another one of my favorite fitness podcasts. And then I just follow tons of ripped dudes on Instagram. You know, they say you're the average of the five people you hang out with most. I feel like I'm the average of, like, the fifty followers

I buy it. And then finally, I listened to Nick Bear. You know who that is? Remember that ripped dude? Yeah. He came on the spot. Yeah. He's amazing. So I listen to his podcast and I listen to Mind Body Pump. That's another one of my favorite fitness podcasts. And then I just follow tons of ripped dudes on Instagram. You know, they say you're the average of the five people you hang out with most. I feel like I'm the average of, like, the fifty followers

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that that I follow on Instagram. So I'm just constantly, like, seeing, like, rip dudes and, like, people running far and running fast. I get that on Instagram.

that that I follow on Instagram. So I'm just constantly, like, seeing, like, rip dudes and, like, people running far and running fast. I get that on Instagram.

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So that's all my equipment. I'm gonna wrap it up with here's the rules that I basically have for my fitness and my health. So I always have a goal with a deadline, meaning, like, next year, my goal is gonna be to run a hundred mile race. This year was to hit body fat percentage. So I always have a goal. Number two, I always hire coaches. If there's anything I wanna learn last year. I learned boxing. I had a boxing coach. This year, I wanted to get my nutrition right. I had a nutritionist. I always hire a coach no matter what.

So that's all my equipment. I'm gonna wrap it up with here's the rules that I basically have for my fitness and my health. So I always have a goal with a deadline, meaning, like, next year, my goal is gonna be to run a hundred mile race. This year was to hit body fat percentage. So I always have a goal. Number two, I always hire coaches. If there's anything I wanna learn last year. I learned boxing. I had a boxing coach. This year, I wanted to get my nutrition right. I had a nutritionist. I always hire a coach no matter what.

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Finally,

Finally,

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or the third one, no processed foods,

or the third one, no processed foods,

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and no sugar, unless it's planned and and, it it's intentional.

and no sugar, unless it's planned and and, it it's intentional.

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So, like, I know, like, two weeks, three in advance. This is a special occasion. I wanna splurge there.

So, like, I know, like, two weeks, three in advance. This is a special occasion. I wanna splurge there.

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I don't fret over money if it makes me healthier. And finally, I'm not trying to be perfect. I'm just trying to be the least bad most of the time and intentional about when,

I don't fret over money if it makes me healthier. And finally, I'm not trying to be perfect. I'm just trying to be the least bad most of the time and intentional about when,

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I am gonna, like, splurge.

I am gonna, like, splurge.

18:06

So Those that's basically my whole thing. A few things in the future that I want to know. So what does that add up to the dollar amounts that you just mentioned? Did you sum it up by any chance?

So Those that's basically my whole thing. A few things in the future that I want to know. So what does that add up to the dollar amounts that you just mentioned? Did you sum it up by any chance?

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Well,

Well,

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so the I I didn't have the exact cost of my home gym because I spent about three grand upfront, and then I've been, like, buying stuff as I've gone. Yeah. Let's call it five. Let's call it five We'll call it five. Then I would say I spend around fifteen thousand dollars a year.

so the I I didn't have the exact cost of my home gym because I spent about three grand upfront, and then I've been, like, buying stuff as I've gone. Yeah. Let's call it five. Let's call it five We'll call it five. Then I would say I spend around fifteen thousand dollars a year.

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And,

And,

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you know, like, LeBron James has the like, this famous stat where it's, like, a million dollars a year. Yeah. He's like, I spent a million dollars a year on my body. And when that first came out,

you know, like, LeBron James has the like, this famous stat where it's, like, a million dollars a year. Yeah. He's like, I spent a million dollars a year on my body. And when that first came out,

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other athletes were, like,

other athletes were, like,

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whoa, you know, like other NBA guys were like, I don't spend anywhere near that, but, you know, he look at lebron. He's sort of, like, the pinnacle athlete in terms of fit physical fitness.

whoa, you know, like other NBA guys were like, I don't spend anywhere near that, but, you know, he look at lebron. He's sort of, like, the pinnacle athlete in terms of fit physical fitness.

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Even athletes in other sports, I've heard NFL guys reference that. I've met NFL guys and they talk about, yeah, LeBron's said he spent this. That that got me thinking, what am I spending on? Why am I not invent testing in my body. Connor McGregor has said that he goes, I heard LeBron James said he's he sends a million dollars a year. I'm thinking I I don't spend anything. He's like and so then he started Like, he hired it. He hired, like, full time staff and people and started doing the whole thing. And so I think that it was funny how that one person saying that,

Even athletes in other sports, I've heard NFL guys reference that. I've met NFL guys and they talk about, yeah, LeBron's said he spent this. That that got me thinking, what am I spending on? Why am I not invent testing in my body. Connor McGregor has said that he goes, I heard LeBron James said he's he sends a million dollars a year. I'm thinking I I don't spend anything. He's like and so then he started Like, he hired it. He hired, like, full time staff and people and started doing the whole thing. And so I think that it was funny how that one person saying that,

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you know, like triggered a a kind of a chain reaction. And I actually think it's smart that you're sharing this because it's not our typical thing we talk about on the pod. We'll joke around about it, but it's not like a usual segment on the pod, but I think it is a big part of being an entrepreneur and a founder is, like,

you know, like triggered a a kind of a chain reaction. And I actually think it's smart that you're sharing this because it's not our typical thing we talk about on the pod. We'll joke around about it, but it's not like a usual segment on the pod, but I think it is a big part of being an entrepreneur and a founder is, like,

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Do that founder fifteen is real? That founder, for me, it was the founder forty five that was real. Dude, I gained so much weight stressing out. Eating wrong, sleeping shitty,

Do that founder fifteen is real? That founder, for me, it was the founder forty five that was real. Dude, I gained so much weight stressing out. Eating wrong, sleeping shitty,

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you know, not work not working out because I didn't have time. And, that really costs you. And so I think it's great that you, that you decided to do the second. And we didn't even talk about say at the end. Well, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing. So we didn't even talk about mental health stuff. So the mental health stuff, like, I try to, like, I just, like, I write every morning, and it's not, like, dear journal typically. It's, like, here's what I wanna get done today. Like, I'm pretty bummed about this, this, and this, but I'm very thankful for this. So, like, that's my version of writing.

you know, not work not working out because I didn't have time. And, that really costs you. And so I think it's great that you, that you decided to do the second. And we didn't even talk about say at the end. Well, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing. So we didn't even talk about mental health stuff. So the mental health stuff, like, I try to, like, I just, like, I write every morning, and it's not, like, dear journal typically. It's, like, here's what I wanna get done today. Like, I'm pretty bummed about this, this, and this, but I'm very thankful for this. So, like, that's my version of writing.

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And then, like, obviously, like, lots of therapy. So those, like, my mental health things. But, alright, last thing. The things I wanna try, So one, an executive health checkup. So, basically, you spend some number between five and twenty grand a year or twenty grand in one turn and you go for three days to a Mayo Clinic and they just do all types of stuff to you. I'm not convinced that it's entirely needed, but I I every I test everything just mostly for fun. Number two, a concierge doctor. Have you ever had one of those? Briefly, I had a, yeah, I had a concierge doctor. I had a concierge.

And then, like, obviously, like, lots of therapy. So those, like, my mental health things. But, alright, last thing. The things I wanna try, So one, an executive health checkup. So, basically, you spend some number between five and twenty grand a year or twenty grand in one turn and you go for three days to a Mayo Clinic and they just do all types of stuff to you. I'm not convinced that it's entirely needed, but I I every I test everything just mostly for fun. Number two, a concierge doctor. Have you ever had one of those? Briefly, I had a, yeah, I had a concierge doctor. I had a concierge.

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Yes. I had one when I was one time I got really sick with lime and my face, like, broke.

Yes. I had one when I was one time I got really sick with lime and my face, like, broke.

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I had, like, Bell's palsy. It was it was horrible. So I spent twenty five grand. I had a concierge doctor, a doctor on call. Was awesome. I wanna get one of those. The third thing, skin stuff. Do you do anything for your skin? Like, wear sunscreen?

I had, like, Bell's palsy. It was it was horrible. So I spent twenty five grand. I had a concierge doctor, a doctor on call. Was awesome. I wanna get one of those. The third thing, skin stuff. Do you do anything for your skin? Like, wear sunscreen?

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No. I don't do. I I dude, I I have a Honestly, I haven't washed my face in, like, six years. I might be I might be a white guy, you know, underneath all this. This might just be

No. I don't do. I I dude, I I have a Honestly, I haven't washed my face in, like, six years. I might be I might be a white guy, you know, underneath all this. This might just be

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Like, people are like, oh, my face wash to use. I was like, yeah, my face gets wet during the shower gets wet. That's that's the wash, bro. Like, there's not not a routine. Whatever's leftover in the towel when I wipe my face off and dry it off is the soap that I'm using. Dude, I don't know if it's a woman thing if it's a black woman thing, because my wife, it, like, knows everything about, like, skin care. She's like, you gotta use this. Then you gotta do this. You gotta do this. And I'm like, dude, that's just way too complicated. And I'm doing any of that. Use the hand soap. But

Like, people are like, oh, my face wash to use. I was like, yeah, my face gets wet during the shower gets wet. That's that's the wash, bro. Like, there's not not a routine. Whatever's leftover in the towel when I wipe my face off and dry it off is the soap that I'm using. Dude, I don't know if it's a woman thing if it's a black woman thing, because my wife, it, like, knows everything about, like, skin care. She's like, you gotta use this. Then you gotta do this. You gotta do this. And I'm like, dude, that's just way too complicated. And I'm doing any of that. Use the hand soap. But

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basically, I have to use sunscreen. She's telling me. So I I wanna start doing some some skin

basically, I have to use sunscreen. She's telling me. So I I wanna start doing some some skin

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stuff And then the last thing, dude, I wanna do a five day fast. I was pretty inspired by John Lee Douas. That's like on my bucket list. It's a five day fast. So those are some of the things I wanna try. But that's my that's my body stack.

stuff And then the last thing, dude, I wanna do a five day fast. I was pretty inspired by John Lee Douas. That's like on my bucket list. It's a five day fast. So those are some of the things I wanna try. But that's my that's my body stack.

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That's great. Have you heard tried the way? Have you heard how have you heard how young people instead of saying, how many people have you slept with? They say, what's your body count?

That's great. Have you heard tried the way? Have you heard how have you heard how young people instead of saying, how many people have you slept with? They say, what's your body count?

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Yeah. Ever. That's so funny. It's so funny.

Yeah. Ever. That's so funny. It's so funny.

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Just catch bodies.

Just catch bodies.

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That's right. Came up with this name. It was like, here's my body stack.

That's right. Came up with this name. It was like, here's my body stack.

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Some young woman raised her hand, and she goes, hey, teacher. What's your body count? And I I'm like, it's some funniest thing I've seen in a in months.

Some young woman raised her hand, and she goes, hey, teacher. What's your body count? And I I'm like, it's some funniest thing I've seen in a in months.

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Let me go ahead. Alright. So my buddy is,

Let me go ahead. Alright. So my buddy is,

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going through a company acquisition. And he's like, oh, yeah. You know, I'm gonna have to earn it out there, blah, blah, blah. And I told him, I said, You know, when we got acquired, I did one thing really well. I go, I wrote down.

going through a company acquisition. And he's like, oh, yeah. You know, I'm gonna have to earn it out there, blah, blah, blah. And I told him, I said, You know, when we got acquired, I did one thing really well. I go, I wrote down.

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I was like, alright. I know what this year is all about.

I was like, alright. I know what this year is all about.

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It's this acquisition. And I know this could go many ways. I talked to a bunch of people who got acquired.

It's this acquisition. And I know this could go many ways. I talked to a bunch of people who got acquired.

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And for some of them, they just got really depressed. They were bored at the acquiring company. For some people, they had a great time.

And for some of them, they just got really depressed. They were bored at the acquiring company. For some people, they had a great time.

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Some people, it was just sort of like, dude, I don't even remember. It just sort of like, you know, whatever. I don't know. That was years ago. And I honestly, I was just kind of von zombie was on autopilot. I I don't really I didn't really have much intention behind how I spent that year. So I said, Alright. I'm gonna have some intent. So I wrote this document, and I'm gonna read part of it to you.

Some people, it was just sort of like, dude, I don't even remember. It just sort of like, you know, whatever. I don't know. That was years ago. And I honestly, I was just kind of von zombie was on autopilot. I I don't really I didn't really have much intention behind how I spent that year. So I said, Alright. I'm gonna have some intent. So I wrote this document, and I'm gonna read part of it to you.

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You tell me when this gets boring, we'll switch it. But I go. My twenty nineteen mindsets. This is twenty nineteen we got acquired by by Twitch. Where'd you write this? Just in Google Docs. And,

You tell me when this gets boring, we'll switch it. But I go. My twenty nineteen mindsets. This is twenty nineteen we got acquired by by Twitch. Where'd you write this? Just in Google Docs. And,

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at the top, I wrote

at the top, I wrote

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I wrote a quote. Time is what we want the most, but we use the worst. I said this document is a chance to think about how I wanna spend the next year of my life. Time is the most precious resource. Here's I'm gonna invest it. I go. Number one, get fit enjoyably.

I wrote a quote. Time is what we want the most, but we use the worst. I said this document is a chance to think about how I wanna spend the next year of my life. Time is the most precious resource. Here's I'm gonna invest it. I go. Number one, get fit enjoyably.

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Number two, earn and learn. Number three, become a great person like Ramon. Those are my three sections.

Number two, earn and learn. Number three, become a great person like Ramon. Those are my three sections.

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Our buddy Ramon is, is the honoree. So I'm gonna get fit enjoyably. I go, Every year, I'm getting fatter, less mobile, and I shorten my lifespan. This is a bad trajectory.

Our buddy Ramon is, is the honoree. So I'm gonna get fit enjoyably. I go, Every year, I'm getting fatter, less mobile, and I shorten my lifespan. This is a bad trajectory.

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I need to invest now, or I'm gonna pay, like, I'm gonna pay later. Hell, I'm paying right now.

I need to invest now, or I'm gonna pay, like, I'm gonna pay later. Hell, I'm paying right now.

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And I go, I think getting fit means dropping to a hundred eighty five pounds. Feeling athletic. And the word enjoyable is really important. Every time I've tried this in the past, I start, I get motivated, take some action, get some results,

And I go, I think getting fit means dropping to a hundred eighty five pounds. Feeling athletic. And the word enjoyable is really important. Every time I've tried this in the past, I start, I get motivated, take some action, get some results,

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but it's hard. I don't really like it. So I slip up and eventually give up altogether. Three weeks. What did you weigh then? Like, two thirty? Two twenty, two twenty five, something like that. Said three weeks later I'm back on my couch and my boxers eating chips in queso. Again, this cycle is bad. Long story short, willpower is not the not the fuel to use. If I use a willpower, I fail. Instead, I'm gonna find a way to do this,

but it's hard. I don't really like it. So I slip up and eventually give up altogether. Three weeks. What did you weigh then? Like, two thirty? Two twenty, two twenty five, something like that. Said three weeks later I'm back on my couch and my boxers eating chips in queso. Again, this cycle is bad. Long story short, willpower is not the not the fuel to use. If I use a willpower, I fail. Instead, I'm gonna find a way to do this,

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in a way that's enjoyable because when I like it, I'll do it. So that means I gotta figure out foods that clean that I actually like. I gotta figure out exercise that's good that I actually look forward to doing. Here's what winning looks like. I'm a hundred eighty five pounds. This is what I wrote at the time. I I got nowhere close to this. I'm hundred and eighty five pounds by the end of twenty twenty. And with a new set of exercise and eating habits that I enjoy, and I'm not forcing myself to maintain. Alright. So that was the the first part. A little a little letter to myself. I I'm proud of reading this. I was like, you know, I did not hit that goal. I'm not one eighty five. Even now, I've

in a way that's enjoyable because when I like it, I'll do it. So that means I gotta figure out foods that clean that I actually like. I gotta figure out exercise that's good that I actually look forward to doing. Here's what winning looks like. I'm a hundred eighty five pounds. This is what I wrote at the time. I I got nowhere close to this. I'm hundred and eighty five pounds by the end of twenty twenty. And with a new set of exercise and eating habits that I enjoy, and I'm not forcing myself to maintain. Alright. So that was the the first part. A little a little letter to myself. I I'm proud of reading this. I was like, you know, I did not hit that goal. I'm not one eighty five. Even now, I've

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probably

probably

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to

to

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twelve, two thirteen. So it doesn't even sound like much ten pounds, but it was but I probably Yeah. It's a way to double that in terms of, yeah, muscle mass, composition versus body fat. You did one eighty five for you. A lot of people don't realize this, but you're six one. You think you're are you above six one, anything?

twelve, two thirteen. So it doesn't even sound like much ten pounds, but it was but I probably Yeah. It's a way to double that in terms of, yeah, muscle mass, composition versus body fat. You did one eighty five for you. A lot of people don't realize this, but you're six one. You think you're are you above six one, anything?

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Yeah. Like, you're that one eighty five would be pretty small.

Yeah. Like, you're that one eighty five would be pretty small.

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Yeah. So I don't know. I picked a number, but, like, specifics aside, I think I got the idea right.

Yeah. So I don't know. I picked a number, but, like, specifics aside, I think I got the idea right.

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And I don't wanna look back. So at that time, I was working out zero times a week. I was eating

And I don't wanna look back. So at that time, I was working out zero times a week. I was eating

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like dog shit, and I was I really didn't have even a game plan. And in fact, I actually had very little

like dog shit, and I was I really didn't have even a game plan. And in fact, I actually had very little

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evidence

evidence

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that, like, this was doable. For some people, if you've been in great shape before, you always have that You've got that in your back pocket. You've I have done this before.

that, like, this was doable. For some people, if you've been in great shape before, you always have that You've got that in your back pocket. You've I have done this before.

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Imagine never having done it. Right? Like, never I never saw an ab. It was the loch ness monster of my body. It was like, where Where is this thing? And so

Imagine never having done it. Right? Like, never I never saw an ab. It was the loch ness monster of my body. It was like, where Where is this thing? And so

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that was where I was at. Now the two things that worked for me, so in terms of your text in terms of your body stack, I share two things, but I do everything else differently.

that was where I was at. Now the two things that worked for me, so in terms of your text in terms of your body stack, I share two things, but I do everything else differently.

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So

So

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I also get get a coach for everything that I'm doing. So I have a personal trainer who I talk about a bunch. I have a nutrition. I use the same once you taught told me about my body tutor, I do the two hundred dollar a month plan where I text her every day. You dig it when I when I'm meeting. I dig it. Yeah. I've I'm not the most consistent with it. Like, I will forget to update it at night. I'll update it later, but, like, whatever. Just a little late.

I also get get a coach for everything that I'm doing. So I have a personal trainer who I talk about a bunch. I have a nutrition. I use the same once you taught told me about my body tutor, I do the two hundred dollar a month plan where I text her every day. You dig it when I when I'm meeting. I dig it. Yeah. I've I'm not the most consistent with it. Like, I will forget to update it at night. I'll update it later, but, like, whatever. Just a little late.

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And,

And,

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yeah. So I do the coach thing. That was really, really important. And I, like, I was saying with the MMA thing. Same thing. I wanna do this. Let me get a coach. And a coach is not because you don't know how to do it. It's because

yeah. So I do the coach thing. That was really, really important. And I, like, I was saying with the MMA thing. Same thing. I wanna do this. Let me get a coach. And a coach is not because you don't know how to do it. It's because

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it's, like, the real way to commit to doing it. And for me, I was, like, even better, I need somebody to show up at my house. So I looked at what are the things that tripped me up? I was like, it's not like I'm going to the gym and doing a crappy workout. I'm just not going to the gym. And so I was like, I need to find a way to go to the gym. I was like, alright. Well, what if the gym came to me? So I saw your home gym. I got inspired. I was like, dude, What's the flooring you used? What's this that you bought? What's this? I asked you for every little piece. And it was way easier than you thought, wasn't it? Oh, dude. I copied the exact same thing. I bought the same rubber mask from my floor. It wasn't a lot of stuff. It wasn't a lot of stuff. And, you know, a few kettle bells, this, that. Great. Got it.

it's, like, the real way to commit to doing it. And for me, I was, like, even better, I need somebody to show up at my house. So I looked at what are the things that tripped me up? I was like, it's not like I'm going to the gym and doing a crappy workout. I'm just not going to the gym. And so I was like, I need to find a way to go to the gym. I was like, alright. Well, what if the gym came to me? So I saw your home gym. I got inspired. I was like, dude, What's the flooring you used? What's this that you bought? What's this? I asked you for every little piece. And it was way easier than you thought, wasn't it? Oh, dude. I copied the exact same thing. I bought the same rubber mask from my floor. It wasn't a lot of stuff. It wasn't a lot of stuff. And, you know, a few kettle bells, this, that. Great. Got it.

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So I got a home gym, and then I got a trainer to come to my house. Now, obviously, this is a a luxury. Not everybody could afford to do this.

So I got a home gym, and then I got a trainer to come to my house. Now, obviously, this is a a luxury. Not everybody could afford to do this.

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But, hey, that's the part of this show. It's about, like, you know, building wealth and then figuring out how to use it. And so this is this is how to use it.

But, hey, that's the part of this show. It's about, like, you know, building wealth and then figuring out how to use it. And so this is this is how to use it.

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Second thing was nutrition. So, okay, the coaching thing. I'm right on board with you. Mine was remove friction. Find the places that, like, the habit slips up and just literally try to get rid of that step. So that was bringing the gym to me. The last piece was basically, like, what is the What is the version of this I'm gonna enjoy? So I had to find a trainer who I vibe with, who I actually like hanging out with them.

Second thing was nutrition. So, okay, the coaching thing. I'm right on board with you. Mine was remove friction. Find the places that, like, the habit slips up and just literally try to get rid of that step. So that was bringing the gym to me. The last piece was basically, like, what is the What is the version of this I'm gonna enjoy? So I had to find a trainer who I vibe with, who I actually like hanging out with them.

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Like, the conversation is fun. It's not just that they're good at their job. And secondly, like, we do workouts that are fun for me. Sometimes we'll just he'll come over and he'll be like, let's go play basketball. We'll just go to twenty four hour fitness. We'll pay pickup basketball. It's kinda weird. It's like, dude, you're you're paying this trainer a hundred dollars to go play pickup basketball with you. It's like, yeah. I'm actually paying for me to exercise regularly and get in great shape. I'm not paying for a specific hour block of time or a specific, like, skill set know how. And so same thing, MMA looked fun, alright. I'm gonna do MMA.

Like, the conversation is fun. It's not just that they're good at their job. And secondly, like, we do workouts that are fun for me. Sometimes we'll just he'll come over and he'll be like, let's go play basketball. We'll just go to twenty four hour fitness. We'll pay pickup basketball. It's kinda weird. It's like, dude, you're you're paying this trainer a hundred dollars to go play pickup basketball with you. It's like, yeah. I'm actually paying for me to exercise regularly and get in great shape. I'm not paying for a specific hour block of time or a specific, like, skill set know how. And so same thing, MMA looked fun, alright. I'm gonna do MMA.

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We do training that's like about mobility sometimes or or very simple things. Like, I'll tell them, like, look, I told them very simple. He's like, what are your goals? And I think for every other client of his is their goals are, like, I wanna lose weight. I got a wedding coming up. I gotta,

We do training that's like about mobility sometimes or or very simple things. Like, I'll tell them, like, look, I told them very simple. He's like, what are your goals? And I think for every other client of his is their goals are, like, I wanna lose weight. I got a wedding coming up. I gotta,

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you know, I wanna look good with my shirt off. Blah blah blah. I wanna, you know, some shit like that. I was like, when I stand up from sitting, I feel like an old man. I was like, I don't get up like an athletic person. So that's my first goal. I wanna be able to Like, we do this exercise on the ground and you say, alright. Let's get up. Let's go over here. I don't wanna grow up. I want that to be, like, a eighteen point turn. Like, I I need to just, like, get up. Not, like, Oh, yep. Coming hold on. This, like, hold it. This, like, straight. Gotta get on my elbow, then my knee, then my put both hands on the ground too. Like, you know, tripod, then I'm up. Like, that's That's how I was moving, honestly. And I was like, same thing when I run. I was like, I don't know if I run right. I think my gate is all messed up. And so we spent a lot of time literally fixing my walking gate or my sitting posture,

you know, I wanna look good with my shirt off. Blah blah blah. I wanna, you know, some shit like that. I was like, when I stand up from sitting, I feel like an old man. I was like, I don't get up like an athletic person. So that's my first goal. I wanna be able to Like, we do this exercise on the ground and you say, alright. Let's get up. Let's go over here. I don't wanna grow up. I want that to be, like, a eighteen point turn. Like, I I need to just, like, get up. Not, like, Oh, yep. Coming hold on. This, like, hold it. This, like, straight. Gotta get on my elbow, then my knee, then my put both hands on the ground too. Like, you know, tripod, then I'm up. Like, that's That's how I was moving, honestly. And I was like, same thing when I run. I was like, I don't know if I run right. I think my gate is all messed up. And so we spent a lot of time literally fixing my walking gate or my sitting posture,

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or, you know, like, my habits for the morning of how to get loose, if those things matter to me. So I would suggest also, like, Don't make your goals the cliche. Think about what actually would feel good as maybe like a middle step in between you and being just, like, absolutely ripped. Because that became very motivating to me, and I started to see results and all those little things first. Oh, I'm smoother when I run. I'm smoother when I walk. I get up more smoothly.

or, you know, like, my habits for the morning of how to get loose, if those things matter to me. So I would suggest also, like, Don't make your goals the cliche. Think about what actually would feel good as maybe like a middle step in between you and being just, like, absolutely ripped. Because that became very motivating to me, and I started to see results and all those little things first. Oh, I'm smoother when I run. I'm smoother when I walk. I get up more smoothly.

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I can crouch down in a in a easier way and play with my kids. That was the, like, I mean, I could just sit in a squat. Like, those things were really important.

I can crouch down in a in a easier way and play with my kids. That was the, like, I mean, I could just sit in a squat. Like, those things were really important.

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I did find somebody who knew how to who knew how to train in a functional way like that, not just. Alright. Let's do, you know, three sets twelve,

I did find somebody who knew how to who knew how to train in a functional way like that, not just. Alright. Let's do, you know, three sets twelve,

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with, you know, this heavy weight. That's it. And do you set time aside? Like, working out, is it, like, every day at this time?

with, you know, this heavy weight. That's it. And do you set time aside? Like, working out, is it, like, every day at this time?

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Every day at the same time. He shows up at my house.

Every day at the same time. He shows up at my house.

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I'm not gonna be rude and leave him waiting. I have to drop what I'm doing and I go do it. And that's it. And that's the whole thing.

I'm not gonna be rude and leave him waiting. I have to drop what I'm doing and I go do it. And that's it. And that's the whole thing.

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So we do it at three, three PM.

So we do it at three, three PM.

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But it it doesn't it could've be any time. I actually prefer to move it to the morning now, but, like, whatever. We do three at the moment. Dude, I don't like Andrew Tate that much because

But it it doesn't it could've be any time. I actually prefer to move it to the morning now, but, like, whatever. We do three at the moment. Dude, I don't like Andrew Tate that much because

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I think he says some silly stuff, but he says a lot of interesting stuff, that I agree with. And one of the things that he said that I've I've been obsessing over he goes I'm not motivated.

I think he says some silly stuff, but he says a lot of interesting stuff, that I agree with. And one of the things that he said that I've I've been obsessing over he goes I'm not motivated.

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I'm disciplined.

I'm disciplined.

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And I thought that's beautiful. That's a that that's a really that's a beautiful idea.

And I thought that's beautiful. That's a that that's a really that's a beautiful idea.

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And that has definitely that is definitely key to achieving a lot of goals, whether it's work or,

And that has definitely that is definitely key to achieving a lot of goals, whether it's work or,

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fitness. It's just like, no. I'm just like, I don't

fitness. It's just like, no. I'm just like, I don't

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I I I remember when I was starting my business at like two o'clock, people would call. I'm like, hey, let's go hang out. I'm like, dude, I gotta work. And they're like, what are you talking about? You're the boss. You can do anything you want. I'm like, it's remember I was, like, twenty three, and I would say it's a school night. You know, I can't go out on a school night.

I I I remember when I was starting my business at like two o'clock, people would call. I'm like, hey, let's go hang out. I'm like, dude, I gotta work. And they're like, what are you talking about? You're the boss. You can do anything you want. I'm like, it's remember I was, like, twenty three, and I would say it's a school night. You know, I can't go out on a school night.

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You know, like, we had these rules. I was like, bro, I work. I get there at eight I work until six usually, like, I and then I go to dinner, like, I I can't do these things. And I remember thinking,

You know, like, we had these rules. I was like, bro, I work. I get there at eight I work until six usually, like, I and then I go to dinner, like, I I can't do these things. And I remember thinking,

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I'm not motivated to do this, but I'm that I have this routine because this is discipline, whether I kinda like forced myself to do it. Same with fitness, same with anything. It's like motivation is a really good way to started, but it's not a not the best way to maintain discipline.

I'm not motivated to do this, but I'm that I have this routine because this is discipline, whether I kinda like forced myself to do it. Same with fitness, same with anything. It's like motivation is a really good way to started, but it's not a not the best way to maintain discipline.

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And you can the cool thing about discipline is you can kind of force yourself into it. Like, you're like, are you set these things up? Like, this guy. All you did was told this dude to show up, and now you're like, fuck. I gotta do it. I heard this great quote on discipline.

And you can the cool thing about discipline is you can kind of force yourself into it. Like, you're like, are you set these things up? Like, this guy. All you did was told this dude to show up, and now you're like, fuck. I gotta do it. I heard this great quote on discipline.

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Because I always thought about discipline, like, for us being able to force yourself to do something even if you don't wanna do it.

Because I always thought about discipline, like, for us being able to force yourself to do something even if you don't wanna do it.

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And that's true that does happen, but that's not the definition.

And that's true that does happen, but that's not the definition.

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And somebody said this beautifully ago, Discipline is just remembering what you really want.

And somebody said this beautifully ago, Discipline is just remembering what you really want.

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Because, like, in the moment, you want to just sit down and rest, or you just wanna chill, you just wanna eat that bag of chips or whatever. But it's like, okay. That's it. That is something I want. But what do I really want? And if you remember what you really want, then you'll go do that thing. You'll go do the the things that vote towards that outcome versus this outcome. And so discipline is just remembering what you really want. It felt a lot better than, like, that that's some that's something I wanted to do versus disciplined being I force myself to do it even when I don't wanna do it. Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't last so long.

Because, like, in the moment, you want to just sit down and rest, or you just wanna chill, you just wanna eat that bag of chips or whatever. But it's like, okay. That's it. That is something I want. But what do I really want? And if you remember what you really want, then you'll go do that thing. You'll go do the the things that vote towards that outcome versus this outcome. And so discipline is just remembering what you really want. It felt a lot better than, like, that that's some that's something I wanted to do versus disciplined being I force myself to do it even when I don't wanna do it. Yeah. It doesn't it doesn't last so long.

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Yeah. It goes away, like, the when you wake up in the morning and you're sore. Yeah. The the other things I was gonna say, the things I do differently than you is,

Yeah. It goes away, like, the when you wake up in the morning and you're sore. Yeah. The the other things I was gonna say, the things I do differently than you is,

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I don't

I don't

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set the specific timeline deadlines

set the specific timeline deadlines

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So which is crazy to me because, like, in a business, of course, I do that. I will never set a goal without a timeline. I was like, when I'm trying to do it by, if and if anyone on my team tries to do that, I don't let them do it. But fitness, I looked at it differently. Oh, look. I've tried that before. I've tried to say I'm gonna lose this by this day. My trainer kinda taught me. He was just like, look,

So which is crazy to me because, like, in a business, of course, I do that. I will never set a goal without a timeline. I was like, when I'm trying to do it by, if and if anyone on my team tries to do that, I don't let them do it. But fitness, I looked at it differently. Oh, look. I've tried that before. I've tried to say I'm gonna lose this by this day. My trainer kinda taught me. He was just like, look,

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Alright. How old are you? And I was like, at the time, I don't know. It's thirty two or something like that. He's like, alright. Thirty two. Cool. So you've had thirty two years to build up these habits. And now you're looking for a six week, you know, a six week revamp? Like, oh, you need this goal done in six weeks or six months or

Alright. How old are you? And I was like, at the time, I don't know. It's thirty two or something like that. He's like, alright. Thirty two. Cool. So you've had thirty two years to build up these habits. And now you're looking for a six week, you know, a six week revamp? Like, oh, you need this goal done in six weeks or six months or

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He's like, the way I look at it, you spent thirty two years getting here. Maybe it's gonna take a little while to get there. And that's okay. Right? Like, Hey, what's another year? You know, you what's a what's a year or two of working at this when you spent thirty doing it the wrong way? Can we spend a few doing it the right way?

He's like, the way I look at it, you spent thirty two years getting here. Maybe it's gonna take a little while to get there. And that's okay. Right? Like, Hey, what's another year? You know, you what's a what's a year or two of working at this when you spent thirty doing it the wrong way? Can we spend a few doing it the right way?

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And and and he was sort of, like, what I don't want is you work out and blah, blah, blah, blah, then you

And and and he was sort of, like, what I don't want is you work out and blah, blah, blah, blah, then you

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oh, you'd go and you'd DoorDash some Taco Bell. Now you're feeling guilty you're eating the wrong thing goes, if you're gonna eat it, eat it and enjoy it, don't bring the guilt into it. Don't bring the shame into it. Don't don't feel bad that you're now it's a setback and have this mental baggage about how bad it's gonna be. He's like, just remember, when you're the dude who you like, who you're becoming, can eat taco bell. It's not even gonna mess with you. He's like, I can eat I can eat taco bell every day this week. I won't change a thing. Lift up his shirt, still there. Right? And he's like, that's who you're becoming. And so you just need to, like, focus on that. It don't don't, like, go through this emotional

oh, you'd go and you'd DoorDash some Taco Bell. Now you're feeling guilty you're eating the wrong thing goes, if you're gonna eat it, eat it and enjoy it, don't bring the guilt into it. Don't bring the shame into it. Don't don't feel bad that you're now it's a setback and have this mental baggage about how bad it's gonna be. He's like, just remember, when you're the dude who you like, who you're becoming, can eat taco bell. It's not even gonna mess with you. He's like, I can eat I can eat taco bell every day this week. I won't change a thing. Lift up his shirt, still there. Right? And he's like, that's who you're becoming. And so you just need to, like, focus on that. It don't don't, like, go through this emotional

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up and down and up and down I'm so proud of myself for doing it good one day. And then, oh, I hate myself for missing it the next day, and I feel guilty. Like,

up and down and up and down I'm so proud of myself for doing it good one day. And then, oh, I hate myself for missing it the next day, and I feel guilty. Like,

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just, like, that's one way you could do this. But, like, how about we just don't do it that way? And so I've gone very much the, the tortoise, not the hair route with this, which is just like, cool. I'm gonna put no no timelines on this. I'm gonna put no deadline. I'm gonna make it where it's unfavorable. My only goal is to rebuild my habits of eating and exercise to be healthy. And I don't care how long that takes. I'm gonna do it. And, and there's no setbacks. Everything is progress compared to how I was before, even how I was a month ago. And so that that has also helped me and is a very strange thing because I've never ever chased a goal doing it this way. I've never let myself

just, like, that's one way you could do this. But, like, how about we just don't do it that way? And so I've gone very much the, the tortoise, not the hair route with this, which is just like, cool. I'm gonna put no no timelines on this. I'm gonna put no deadline. I'm gonna make it where it's unfavorable. My only goal is to rebuild my habits of eating and exercise to be healthy. And I don't care how long that takes. I'm gonna do it. And, and there's no setbacks. Everything is progress compared to how I was before, even how I was a month ago. And so that that has also helped me and is a very strange thing because I've never ever chased a goal doing it this way. I've never let myself

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just do it this, like, infinite game style where it's like, yep. There's no clock. You're just trying to be better today than you were yesterday.

just do it this, like, infinite game style where it's like, yep. There's no clock. You're just trying to be better today than you were yesterday.

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And, like, it's okay. You know, even if you do something that's wrong, you you learn something in that process too. It's alright. You know, this pat on the back style, I've never never tried it, but this is the first time. So in other news, we're gonna be launching guy next door

And, like, it's okay. You know, even if you do something that's wrong, you you learn something in that process too. It's alright. You know, this pat on the back style, I've never never tried it, but this is the first time. So in other news, we're gonna be launching guy next door

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fitness plan.

fitness plan.

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Yeah. We should totally do that. A table

Yeah. We should totally do that. A table

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a table of fitness.

a table of fitness.

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Yeah. That's that's gonna be a cop.

Yeah. That's that's gonna be a cop.

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Yeah. We're gonna call it a Not enough. Yeah. We're gonna call it Midwest seven, a New York six.

Yeah. We're gonna call it a Not enough. Yeah. We're gonna call it Midwest seven, a New York six.

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