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Yep. Welcome back. Greatest podcast in the world, a decision to click play.
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And now you're gonna learn things. You're gonna laugh. You might even get a little teary eyed at the forty two minute mark.
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That is true. Also That's a prediction, by the way, because we haven't got there yet. Yeah. But that's, like, the whole point of the podcast is, like, predicting things. But your sweatshirt looks great. Is that, like, that's kind of who you are. You're that stupid dog who says,
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is he stupid?
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Or is he a monk? So my, one of my business partner Joe, he's got that framed in a back on in the on his wall because this is who I am. I'm calm when there's fire.
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You know what? I'm out on, by the way.
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I am out on the
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graph that's, like, this is what you think progress looks like. This is what progress actually looks like. And it's like a squiggly line instead of the straight up and to the right line. I'm out on that.
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What does it look like? On that. What? What's it look like? No. It's correct. I'm just out on the graphic. Like, we know. We, like,
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If you don't know that by now,
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like, if you're if you're over the age of twenty five, you actually have to report that comment as spam. When you see it on LinkedIn,
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you you can't like it. You have to say flag this as redundant.
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Learned this fifteen years ago, and it I got it. The first time I saw it, I got it, never needed to see it again. Dude, I haven't ran Facebook ads in a couple years, but when I did,
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What when I ran it, I think that if just one person
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clicked
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flag as spam, that had a meaningful difference on the ad. Is that still the is that still the truth?
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I don't know, because that's hard to say. It's hard. It's it's like a black box now. So it's really hard to know.
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But, dude, you gotta just fire up the old ad manager once in a while, take it for a spin. Well, what I used to do is any competitor, I would always click flag as spam. I was gonna say there's only one reason you know that. Yeah. I would do it I would do it constantly
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because when I was running the ads, like, I would have an ad set that got seen by, like,
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ten million people, and I would notice, like, if two people clicked flag, that would actually make a meaningful difference in the CPM and click through rate. And so whenever I learn that, I'm like, oh, every time I see someone, I don't like flag flag flag flag. It's it's honestly a miracle morning brooms exceeded given that you were doing this.
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More credit to them, actually. I created eight accounts just to flag them.
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Alright. Let's Wait. Before we get in, we do have to remind everyone about the gentleman's agreement. So In fact, what you were saying about reporting things and clicking buttons. It just did remind me of the gentleman's agreement. And what is the agreement?
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The agreement is think of it as an agreement. Think of it as as a firm handshake done digitally between,
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two gentlemen. And and one gentleman says I will provide an
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unlimited
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Free flowing.
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All you can eat buffet
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of content
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for the low price of zero dollars. As long as you go to YouTube, you type in my first million, and you click subscribe. And I'm not just saying that so we get more subscribers. I'm saying that so that you get more of the content that you need. I'm just looking out for you. And so that's just what one gentleman does for another. We dedicate our lives to this podcast. You spend fifteen seconds to click. Subscribe. It's like, that's the gentleman's agreement. We can't go to your computer and check that you're doing this. So if you watch more than one episode, you owe it to us and that's just the agreement.
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Yeah. It's more like a Santa, you know, naughty or nice list thing. You just need to do it just in case.
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So please do that for us. We work hard on this.
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Semi glue tied. Do you wanna talk about this?
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I've been wanting to talk about this. I'll be fairly open about semi glue tied. I I decided I will. But I so you told me let's talk about semi glue tied, and I feel a little bit vindicated because I have been telling you about this thing. I I this happens a lot. Wanna say I wanna say a couple months ago. Do you think it was a couple months ago? Let's just say a couple months ago. It was a little longer than that. It was more like it's four. Goes,
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Dude, I'm getting an is after the recording. After the recording, Sam usually unloads, like, one or two just bomb shells. And he's like, dude, I'm getting an insane shape right now. I'm taking these drugs.
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And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah. I took this stuff. It's dude. It's amazing.
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I don't wanna eat any sugar. Hold on. Hold on. We have to let me set a little bit of the stage here.
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So
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I like testing
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new products
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And that oftentimes includes body stuff. I'm just a fiend for testing stuff. I love testing everything. And I'm not opposed to injecting myself
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with stuff in order to test it. Just like I'm not opposed to buying a two thousand dollar thing to test it. Like, I just I'm I love new technology. There's clinical trials, they go phase one, phase two, phase three, phase Sam. That's actually how drugs get to market.
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After phase three, it goes straight to Sam funny.
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I said earlier in this podcast, if I drive a place that says it has the world's best coffee, I'm testing it. If I see this thing that says zero symptoms, miracle drug, I'm testing it.
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So, okay. So tell me, so we'll we'll explain what this is. So there's a there is a set of drugs, actually. So I don't even really know the medical stuff here, and I don't know how to pronounce anything. So you correct me where I'm wrong. But Well, first of all, what let's let's preface this, like, saying, none this is one hundred percent bro science
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and we're, like, Wikipedia article and, like, three podcasts
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deep at best. So take everything what we're saying with a grain of salt.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do anything we say. Okay. Continue on. So,
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basically,
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the background of this is basically,
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There was this drug that was created to help with diabetes.
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And the way this works is,
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sugar cravings,
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basically come from, like, a blood sugar imbalance. So, like, when you eat sweets or carbs or drink alcohol or something like that, your body releases insulin and that, like, lowers your blood sugar to a lower level. But, like, when your blood sugar goes up and down, that makes you crave it more. So if you've ever noticed that, like, you get off sugar or, like, a carb heavy stuff for thirty days, or you're, like, by week, two or three, you're like, great. I don't actually crave it anymore, but if you just taste it,
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you're like, I need more. I need more. Mhmm. And so
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and so there's this
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series of drugs that have been created for,
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diabetes, and you inject a very small amount of liquid, like
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I could say what that it is, but you wouldn't even know. But, like, enough to cover a quarter, like, a very small amount. And you do it once a week, And they did this trial about I forget how many years ago, but they tested it with, like, three or four thousand people, and they gave people this drug And originally it was used for diabetes, but then they tested it for weight loss. And they gave people this drug, and they noticed that when they injected it in their body just once a week, Over the course of around a year, they lost roughly fifteen percent of their body weight. So what's that mean? If you weighed three hundred pounds, and this was for, like, obese people. If you weighed three hundred pounds on day one by after one year, you weighed, what's that? Forty five pound you lost forty five pounds in one year. And people were talking about this, and they're like, this is the craziest drug I've ever I've ever take, because basically, it the it's an early drug. So we're not sure entirely of the side effects this is, like, the big the big downside. But, like, for the most part, the side effects were, like, my stomach hurt.
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I had some diarrhea, but then after, like, two weeks that shit went away.
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And so this drug, what it does is when you eat bad food, like a sugar or something like that, her carb, you can just eat a little bit of a and you feel full, and you don't crave it anymore. And that makes it really fascinating. So ultimately, what it does is it lowers your calorie intake from, like, you know, eating three thousand calories a day is pretty easy for some people.
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Now it's like, no, I feel super full after two thousand. I don't crave any more food.
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Right. And this drug is being taken. The the the forms of this drug, it comes as, like,
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or WicoV, or there's, like, all these, like, kind of the the brand names of this same drug or it's class of drugs.
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And it's being taken by tons of Hollywood celebrities,
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tech kind of like tech people, like Elon Musk
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said he was taking it.
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Who else? There's a bunch of people that that have come kind of Do the
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Like, basically, what's going on with this drug is people were using it for diabetes And then a couple of really famous people, including Elon, I think there's, I think, the Kardashians said they took it. And once that happened, then, like, the the rest of the rich and famous started taking it. And so, like, the woman from the office, the Indian lady, Mindy or something like that. Yeah. There's a lot of people who think she's on it because she just lost a ton of weight. And then the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal separately each wrote articles saying out in the Hampton's and out in LA and Hollywood, everyone is on this drug, and everyone automatically, like, it looks twenty pounds thinner than they did six months prior. And it's been causing a shortage for the people who need it for dive diabetes.
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Yeah. Oak milk is out and Ozempic is in. That's right.
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So okay. So this is this is what's going on. So you told me about this a few months ago.
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And,
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like, most things, I'm just, like, I don't know what Sam's talking about. Sounds a little crazy. I'm just gonna sit this one out and see what happens. Then I hear about it again.
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I heard about it through one of the brand names. I didn't actually realize they were talking about the same thing you were talking about. Who who was talking about it?
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To I I can't tell you how many random places I have heard this. And then I'm on TikTok. And there's a TikTok doctor talking about it. And I clicked the comments. And literally, the comments are all people with diabetes who are like, this is why I can't get my drugs. Like, what's going on? So there's, by the way, there's a ton of people with diabetes that are, like, experiencing because there's a shortage of access to,
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to these drugs right now. So they're trying to, try to keep up.
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So, okay, where do we wanna go with this? So there's a couple things. So, basically, you were ahead of the curve. You told me about a couple of months before I started hearing about it. It's still not fully out there. I wanted to talk about it now because I think three to six months from now,
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this is gonna be, like,
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household name. A lot of people are gonna know this because it's gonna be on, you know, CNN and Fox News, people are gonna talk about it. More celebrity is gonna come out about There's gonna be controversies about it. There's gonna be all sorts of things. And so We wanna, like, call our shot and be like, we talked about it early. Yeah. We should have talked about it right when you said it. Dude, it was June, by the way. I I started learning about it in June. Yeah.
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Six months ago, man. So you you've been way ahead of the curve. Okay. So you tell me about this miracle drug. Now I'm, like, either most people, miracle drug, you know, I I'm skeptical initially. So can we talk about, I guess, like, have you looked into
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the science and the side effects. Because I asked a doctor friend, and he goes, yeah, these drugs, they're super effective.
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And he's like, they work. There's no he he's like, I don't know of any,
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kinda known downsides to taking them right now, but also they're so new. So, like, you know, we'll see ten years from now. You know, everybody's small intestine troubled up into, like, a little pee. And they what what what happened? So Well, that's the that that's the downside,
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which is it now this particular drug I don't actually think it's that new. Like, these types of things have existed for I I believe a couple of decades.
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But they the the it is, like, new, like, on a bigger scale.
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I read, like, there's, like, this ridge original study that they tested this on two or three thousand people, and they found that, like, the side effects are, like, for some people, you,
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Like, you get muscle cramps or stomach cramps and, like, some things where you're just, like, uncomfortable for two or three weeks. For me, when I started, toying around with it, I got really cold. I was, like, freezing all day. And I wanted to, like, wear a coat. And I thought that was just because I was just, like, nine percent body fat, but I think it was partially the drug.
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There's another thing where, like, they there's a chance it causes thyroid cancer, but, like,
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they didn't that that doesn't seem like a statistically significant thing at least not to the point of, like, causing true I think the the biggest concern is,
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I don't know. You know what I mean? Okay. Fair enough. And we're not that's not our specialty. So let's not too much about it. Let's talk about some of the I wanna talk about the business side, and then I wanna talk about your other experiments that you've done. Oh, wait. Hold on. Know what's interesting though about this? Why this is gonna be big, I think?
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Dude, I think I I think that there's a world where this, like, cures obesity. So there was one downside.
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Which is, like, the study that they everyone lost this weight on after they quit taking it. The downside is if you were into obesity,
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Yeah.
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No, Jake. The downside was, like, people gained weight after they quit taking it. Like, they gave back, like, two thirds of the weight. So, like, if you don't, like, actually use it to create habits, and then you get off of it, you're just gonna
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get fat again. But,
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I think there's a world where it helps, like, get rid of obesity. I also think there's a world I think there's a world where it could help cure alcoholism.
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Dude, there's been people posting. I like the way I find all the find all this stuff is I go to forums. Which we could talk about in a second, but
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people are like, I'm an alcoholic and I started taking this and I don't crave alcohol anymore. Like, what's the name of a form? Like, you read it or you're talking about, deep forum, like bodybuilding dot com or something. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, it could be a body I will go to bodybuilding dot com, or there's a Reddit called semiclutide.
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There's a Reddit called
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Ozempic
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and We Govey. There's subreddits for all of them. How many people are a part of the Reddit for semi gluteide?
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Let's look right now. So
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there are
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fourteen thousand. Fourteen thousand. Not that many. So that's pretty low. That's not what we're talking about. But that's cool. That's enough people that, like, it gets pretty interesting. And then there's another one for, like, each brand name. It was in nineteen thousand.
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So and then okay. So here's some kinda crazy business stuff. So
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To be, I'm like, wow. There's a there's a miracle drug that helps you lose weight easily and almost guaranteed. And to people, like, tons of people in a bunch of celebrities are doing this thing is gonna fly.
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So sure enough, the, you know, supply starts getting constrained because too many people are trying to get it.
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Have you heard of some of these brands that try to get it to you and how create how much they're doing right now? So There's more like the Norvo, the the European company, and then, like, the Like, does that make sense? The maker of it. So I was looking I was like, how do I benefit from this financially?
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I was like, I'm not taking this drug, but how do I make some money? That's that's a different drug. And, so I looked into the, you know, the maker of it, the stock. And then I was like, okay. Well,
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how do who how are people getting this today? So first search, if you search ozempic, is a company called Calibrate.
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And Calibrate has some crazy stats. So Calibrate
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let me just send you, or let me Join calibrate dot com. Yeah. So calibrate, basically, you go to their landing page, and it's, like, Ozempic online weight loss prescription.
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It's a safe doctor of scribe GLP one thing. You know, see if you're eligible. And then, basically, you get it's like telemedicine. You get a call. You get a prescription. You get to write lost drug.
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They
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They are currently valued at about forty four hundred fifty million, this company. In less than twenty four months,
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They've basically scaled to about a fifty million dollar run rate -- No way, really? -- kinda crazy. So June, July twenty twenty, It's a zero.
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July twenty twenty one, it's less than, like, you know, it's, you know, it's tiny. And then it's gone up I wanna say, what is this? How did you see this?
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I can't really say, but it's gone up, you know, ten x in a year.
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So that's kinda crazy. And they project. They project by the end of this year. They'll be at sixty million. And by then, the next year, they'll be at a hundred forty million. So semaglutide,
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it costs, like, five hundred bucks a month.
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And when you take it, you're like, this is dope.
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I don't wanna quit taking this.
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Right? You're like, hey, turn off the heater. I got the key for a zen pick.
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Well, it's like,
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You're like, what would you pay to, like, be ripped? You know what I mean? You'll pay a lot. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know what I want turns out I won't do is inject myself with, like, you know, kinda newest drug, but, you know, I think I'm I'm in the minority here. It looks like the majority of people are doing it. So, there's this company. There's NexMed,
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obesity is a disease, not a choice. We will help correct your body chemistry with a with this drug.
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Okay. That's pretty pretty strong,
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Pretty strong marketing. Okay. Cool. So that's, that's the first part is people are gonna Google search this thing like crazy. If you go to Google trends right now and you search for, like, a ZapIC or you search semaglutide,
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you just see it's, like, basically going up, up, up, up, up, up, up, and then the the Google trends, like, you know, they do this forecast where it's, like, a dotted line. And the dotted line is going straight up to a hundred. Is it really?
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Yeah. They're like, this thing is gonna fly.
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And so, like, you know, I I think there's there's gonna be a lot of people doing this. I think that if you are creating
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content that is reviews reviews,
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science,
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like, summarizing the science around this stuff, I think that you can make a killing right now. If you can get in the top rank on SEO or on YouTube,
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doing
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reviews
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and,
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scientific summaries and,
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FAQs
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on this,
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on on these drugs. Because you will then be able to affiliate link out
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that lead. And if it's five hundred dollars a month, and people are staying on this thing for multiple years, you might be getting paid, you know,
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three thousand dollars a lead or ten thousand dollars a lead or something like that. Right? Like, it it could get kinda crazy depending on what the lifetime value is of these things. And so,
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I think that somebody who creates content for those Google searches is gonna do really, really well. Right? Like, if I go search I haven't looked at all the, So a lot of I see how tools for this, but Well, a lot of the when I went and I went and researched this, like, crazy and I used
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YouTube, and I use a bunch of different stuff to, like, learn about it. The the majority of this content is mostly for women who are
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overweight. You know, it's It's a it's overweight women. And I went and I was like, okay. But is this what does this drug do for, like,
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kinda fit men? Was like, what's going you know, I was like, that's, like, the niche that I'm curious about. Like, okay. Cool. If you're You can't send some podcasters?
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I was,
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like, is there a niche for, like, like, guy next door. Like, you know what I mean?
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When I was, like, looking for, like, alright. So if you're three hundred pounds, this could make you
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two hundred pounds, but, like, you know, like, I don't need to be less fat. Like, I I just wanna, you know, how do I just I got a b minus face at a B plus potty.
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Yeah. Where am I going after this? How can a Missouri eight become, like, a New York seven? That's just what I wanted to know. That was the niche. So I was trying to learn about it, but there's, like, not that much content. There's some content on about it on YouTube with, like, Joe rogan and more plates, more dates talks about it. Huberman is beginning to talk about it a little bit, but there's not a significant amount. Right. I also think that,
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owning a Facebook group of people who are trying these things out would be even batching it by month, like, November, you know, Ozempic bunnies. And it's like, you know, here here we go. We're all going in. How's everyone doing? Oh my god. It's amazing.
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Oh, you're on the fence. Click this link and you can get in. You know, like, here's here's how it works. And so I think that there's a bunch of different ways to be an affiliate for stuff that -- So -- that I think is gonna do well. Plus, obviously, the companies that are selling this stuff directly. And you don't wanna take this. You're not you're not on board.
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Like, I don't know. I'm fine. Like, I
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I'm not, like,
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completely against the idea of taking it. I just,
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I play it safe when it comes to health stuff and,
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I I play it safe more more than anything else. And so If there's a lot of unknowns and it sounds a little too good to be true, I just gotta wait and, like,
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you know,
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I get shredded next year. It's fine. Two years from now if I wait this out? That'll be okay.
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Look, all I'm saying is really is gonna make it so that nobody gets fat anymore.
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Then honestly, being shredded ain't gonna mean shit anyways. So, not sure. That's sure how I feel about it. You're just fighting the advances of of modern science at your own loss. You know what I mean?
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I'm like a flat earther
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of of the body. Well, and and we should say, like, I do think that, like, being natural,
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like, I I think there's pros and cons where they're, like, people are like, well, I don't wanna take drugs. And I'm like, well, like,
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Would you key would you take the and they imply that natural is better? And I'm like, I think that's actually a a stupid argument because, like, I can go eat some seed. That's natural, and that can kill me. And also, like, if you're if you're sick,
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do you do chemo?
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Of course, you do. And so where do you draw the line? It's like what you will and will not do. And I love testing drugs and testing all of my, like I said, new products because I'm I actually wanna find out where my line is. You know, is your, like, you could be like, well, I'm not gonna drive a car. That's not natural, and it kills people. But I'm like, yeah, but it's pretty pretty sick. Cars are cool. Like, so, like, it it kinda makes it worth it. So I I I challenge people to ask themselves. And
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for them, they may say, well, I I just don't wanna take anything. And I say that. I think that's great. Do what you want. But I always think it's like an interesting argument when people say they're unwilling to take a certain drug. And I'm like, well, but you're you drink this Coca Cola or if you take Advil, like, where are we gonna draw the line?
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Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna draw the line at things that,
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I already thought were normal and new things stay out. That's that's pretty realistic. Look, I'm I'm what you call dug in. I've made my mind, and I am not changing.
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Okay?
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Have mental cleats and I'm in the ground right now.
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Alright. Where do we go from here?
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Let's move on. So
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Other things. Oh, wait. Wait. Let's finish up with weird things that you've explored that are not satisfied with that. So Dude. This looks too good too.
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So
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vape me weed. I was on that train since two thousand and four, and I used to
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so nowadays because I was like, well, I want weed, but I don't want, like, smoke. And I was never, like, a weed guy, but I, like, I remember thinking about this. And I'm like, I don't I don't really even like this drug, but, like, the whole smoke thing seems weird. And so years ago,
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I bought a thing
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where I was, like, trying to research just like crazy. And, like, there's vaporizers, but and there's this thing called a volcano. You know what that is? No.
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It's, like, a six hundred dollar vape thing that would, like, put vape in, like, this plastic bag and you would toss it around and run the room. And I was, like, that's stupid.
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And, so I, like,
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went and found this, like, wood maker who made, like, an oven that you light on fire. It's basically, like, a meth pipe for weed, and that he the weed to, like, a certain temperature, and it turns into vapes. And I was, like, portable vapes. This is gonna be a thing. And then, like, packs came out.
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How how far ahead of the curve are you on that? So you started vaping two thousand and four. That's crazy.
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When did vaping become popular? I feel like that's, like, five years ago. Five years ago, but I was all my babies. The other vape that I thought was gonna be a thing and it never turned out,
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I learned about vaping alcohol.
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Turns out that's not, like, there's not, like, that much science to it, and butt chugging is actually the way to go. But I was
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I was curious about Like, can you actually get drunk all the debates? I remember, like, creating the We gotta put up the picture of you with the incredible
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Hiktan,
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versus you now.
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This is the, like,
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Ozempic, you know, infomercial
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How did you feel about that? That's pretty messed up. Right?
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What what's what's pretty messed up here? You're before Victor. So, basically, I posted a before picture on Twitter and my before picture, it looks like I'm kid rock's nephew.
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Like New before picture honestly looks like like, somebody is staging
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a before picture. It's like, alright. How do we make this
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as crazy as possible? Like, yeah, at least, like, turn the knob up all the way. Like, Yeah. Like, somebody said, it looks like you get that guy definitely has a couch in his lawn.
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Later that day, I saw a guy get shot in his leg with an AK forty seven in a drive by.
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I it was the most hectic part of my life.
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I was like, this guy definitely has, like, a a loose, you know, hot dog in his pocket right now. Just Dude, it looks like a hot dog.
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Yeah. So you,
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you know,
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you you are a man of progress. You're a symbol of progress. So that that's amazing. The
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Other thing you said, you're taking some, like, crazy wonder drug for your Achilles right now. You wanna talk about that or no? I'm I'm I'm looking into this thing, and I've and I've tested it out a little bit. It's called BPC one fifty seven. So it's a it's a peptide, which is it's hard to I I I'm not a doctor. I don't even like explaining this stuff. But it's basically,
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like, an amino acid. And it Okay. We we have no public math. Maybe we should also have no public science. Well, here here's why I started getting interested. I started reading on Reddit on, like, the peptid,
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what's it called? The peptide Reddit. And this guy was, like,
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My shoulder has been hurting me for twenty years, and I injected myself with this thing. And, like, three days later, I have zero pain. And I've complained for, like, five years that my Achilles and my calf are, like, it always I'm always in pain. And so I was, like, screw it. This one Reddit guy, I'm gonna try this out. And so I did it,
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my cat feels amazing. I have zero pain.
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Dude, and so that's my point. So
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I think and this is kinda what I wanted to talk about. I so, like, I think that you can find patterns
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In non
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quantitative places.
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So Facebook groups, forums,
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article comments,
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comments on, like, when Box or CNN or whatever when they post their articles on on Facebook, looking at the comments.
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And
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ninety
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percent of it is total nonsense.
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But there's something interesting about, like, repeatedly
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seeing these things. Like, here's a really, like, controversial one that was controversial at first, but now we're like, maybe it's not bad. It's like when you were when I I I follow all political spectrum on Facebook. So I can see, like, what articles are the trends. And I'm like,
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wow, Fox keeps or Bright Park keeps posting about Wuhan,
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lab, and, like, a virus coming out of it. Like, what what no. This the we did it just didn't come out this way, but why do they keep saying this. And so You feel like it can't be true. Someone ate a bat in their soup, and that was what happened.
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Yeah. That's what I thought. But, like, This is and this is just one example where nowadays we're like,
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that's actually plausible, maybe. And so what I try to do is whenever I see crazy things, I try to say, what's the repeated pattern? And let me ask myself, like, what is the evidence?
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Not these people are crazy or this is stupid. So, like, if I hear about a drug or a product, my or my I used to say,
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you're just nuts. You're insane. You don't know anything that you're talking about. You're just be normal. Now I say, well, why are you saying that? And, like, is there any evidence? Here's, like, for example, here's one that was interesting. And I'm not a political guy. It just so happens if the political things are, like, way easier because there's way more of them. I saw this, like, crazy Instagram handle say that Putin has cancer and he's, like, close to dying.
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That could be total nonsense. But I'm like, that's really weird that someone would say that. Let me, like, go and research. And then, like, I'm, like, research, like, oh, wow. He did. Cancel
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to, like, things recently. So I understand why you can jump to that, like, conspiracy,
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but, like, it's just, like, interesting to see, like, new ideas pop up and patterns that repeatedly happen and then to ask yourself why. And that's typically how I find a lot of interesting trends. Another one is, like, Do you remember Kito being really popular?
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Yeah.
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Dude, Kito's dead. Kito's Kito's god. Like,
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I I would bet. I haven't looked at go to Google trends right now and type in Keto, and I bet you it looks like a mountain. Like, we're on the right side of the mountain where it's going down. And, like, you just start seeing these trends where, like, people are like, who does keto anymore? Or, let you just start seeing these things. And I find that so fascinating, like, to figure out where these subcultures are on the internet and what do people who are considered freaks? What are they believing? And actually, which one of their controversial opinions is gonna prove to be true in, like, you know, a couple years.
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You know, I gotta give it to you.
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When you first started saying that you saw a guy on Reddit say that his shoulder pain went away and then you injected yourself.
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I thought to myself,
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Skye's an idiot.
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But now I realize I misjudged you.
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You're a bio hacker. Just needed to change the label.
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We just we just went from mayonnaise to Aioli, and I love it.
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That's all you needed. You didn't you didn't even be like, yeah, I, I just take random drugs from recommended by strangers on the internet, you need to say I'm part of the biohacker community.
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Yeah. It's like Indiana.
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It's like Indiana Jones rebranding a a male purse. Like, he nailed it. That's what I need.
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Alright. Let's go to the next one.
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Okay. I got something kinda interesting for you. So
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speaking of Indiana Jones,
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I saw a clip. This is actually a good transition. I saw a clip of the new Indiana Jones trailer. Don't know if you've seen this. Have you seen the new movie trailer for Indiana Jones? No. I I play sports and work out and stuff.
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So
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In there. I don't watch like wizard movies.
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Top five wizard.
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He so it's played by Harrison Ford. Right? And but, you know, Indiana Jones is like the remake, but it's Harris and Ford again, and there's in the trailer, there's this one scene where Harrison Ford who, you know, he looks like,
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you know,
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like somebody calls him Papa now. Like, you know, he's a he's he's a little older.
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He,
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like, rewinds the clock, and he looks like young Harrison Ford in the scene. I was like, oh, how did they do how did they the the technical term, by the way, for people of that age is grayblish.
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So that's the preferred nomenclature show some respect.
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No. My bad.
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Pronouns are gray slash bush. So
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So I was like, how did they do that? Thing where they, like, made him look young in that one scene. Like, that was pretty, pretty cool. And I found out that the south park guys
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have a company around this. Have you seen this? The guys created South Park have this company called Deep Voodoo.
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And they raised a lot of money for it. They raised twenty million dollars, And what they're doing is
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they are creating deep fake technology for movies. So they're like, yo,
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visual effects?
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Expensive as hell? What if we could do it using AI and deep fakes?
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And, the way this works is they actually were making a movie.
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That required a lot of visual effects. And so they were kinda building this technology in house for their own production. And I think something happened. COVID happened. They shut down the movie. And so now the movie is not happening, but they they were like, well, how do we turn this, you know, turn this lemon into lemonade? How do we turn this failure into, you know, something that could be successful?
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And so they spun out the technology as its own company, and they're like, yeah. We're gonna basically
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do the use this technology to
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make it easier to do visual effects. And so then there's this, I put a link in our doc here.
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Oh, no. I didn't put the link in. But there's a a music video by what's his name?
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Kendra Lamar. It was amazing.
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Okay. You've seen this video. It was amazing. Dude. I was gonna I was I've been looking into this. I was You play sports,
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you exercise,
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and you also watch rap videos.
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I'm not a normal podcaster. I'm a cool podcaster.
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Dude, the Kendrick Lamar music video is so good. It is so good. It's magic. They use this technology. So what he's doing is he's I describe it. Like, you you know it better than you. I've only seen it once. Sounds like you actually saw it in the wild. Basically, if I'm,
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it's it's just basically a close-up of Kendrick Lamar, and it's just him wrapping.
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So it's Kendrick Lamar, the heart part five. It's him sitting sitting in a chair. Yep. It starts off. It's him. Then at, like, the one minute forty five second mark, all of a sudden, his face just changes into, the OJ Simpson. And it looks like He's wearing the same shirt, same hair. It just just his facial features changed to identical to Ojis. I'm saying, but he keeps wrapping. And it's not like know, sometimes you see these AI things where the mouth is like it's like not quite moving with the words, and you would think that it'd be pretty hard to do with wrap.
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But they did it. It's, like, it looks perfect. And he looks like OJ, then he changes it to Will Smith, then he changes it to Kanye, then he changes it to Nipsey Hussle. He changes it, and he just keeps morphing. And if you look at the bio, it says deep fake from deep voodoo, special thanks to Matt Stone, Trey Parker, and Deep Voodoo.
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For the production of this video. And so that is, that's pretty cool. And I think this is kind of amazing. These guys
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these guys,
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you know, the south park guys,
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that's kind of like a
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like, some people look up to Elon, and they're like, oh, Elon is the the he's
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That's the that's the best it can be. Career wise, you know, he's the he's the Michael Jordan.
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For me, these guys are a little bit more like the Michael Jordan. Right? I agree, man. They they created no blemishes.
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Creation of South Park. South Park's amazing.
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The way they went about it, the way they poured their heart and soul into it. If you have ever watched that movie, What is it seven days to air? Have you seen this movie? Yeah. It's awesome, man. Talk to seven days. It basically shows how they they produce South Park in one week. Every episode is in one in seven days. And they just followed them for, like, a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And then it's, like, boom. Here's the the episode goes live in. Alright. Back to the meeting room tomorrow. We gotta do another one. And we do the whole season. And that's how they stay super topical with their with their,
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shows, whereas other shows can't because they They filmed the whole thing over a longer period of time or they animated over a longer period of time. So they can't do things that just happen.
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So they did that. They did book of Mormons, and now then they they crush it at the play,
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you know, Broadway play, you know, space.
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Now they're doing it with this product this technology company, this production company, they just signed a nine hundred million dollar deal, by the way, with somebody. So these guys are just, like, crushing it. What not what nine hundred million dollar deal? I think with, Viacom, they signed a deal. I think for south park or,
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I don't know if it's south park or it's other shows too, but
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It's That's crazy, dude. And I bet I wouldn't doubt if they're each worth something like four hundred million dollars.
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These guys are, like, prolific, and they've done it long has south park been around? I think, like, thirty years.
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And there's just boys. Not thirty, but just friends, dude. It's great. Yeah. They're great, man. And, like,
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What's funny is these guys make, like, raunchy
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kid comedy,
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and
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they've never had, like, a blemish. Like, they've never really done anything wrong. Like, the worst thing they've ever done is, like, gone to, like, the remember when they went to the award ceremony on LSD and they dressed up like J lo?
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No.
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So
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so there was, like, that, there was an MTV movie awards where Jayla wore this Jennifer Lauren or Lopez wore this, like, green dress that was, like, risque and, like, was iconic, whatever. The next year, they dressed up with that. They wore that. Actually, I do remember Yeah. That dress is iconic. So And they tell the story. They're like, yeah. We just, like, took a bunch of LSD decided to do that. And they're hilarious. These guys are the best in super prolific, man. They're awesome.
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So these guys, I think they gotta be our ability to be.
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A million dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A billion dollars.
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So they signed a nine hundred million dollar deal with Viacom CVS in August of twenty twenty one. Book of Mormon, their Broadway play has grossed five hundred million in revenue, and they just raised twenty million dollars for this new deep fake company.
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And basically,
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They say, you know, deep fakes have this wrap of being, you know, problematic because there's gonna be fake news and there's gonna be misinformation.
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But, also, it's gonna be really important for Hollywood films. So things like,
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de aging the character, like, in hair in, like, Harris afforded Indiana
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or the music video stuff that you saw, their bet is that visual effects are too expensive and that deep fake technology could make it much more cost effective to do creative work.
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And,
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yeah, it's kinda crazy. So they
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basically, the move they had a movie suspended due to COVID. They pivoted out the team and decided to provide deep fake tools to Hollywood.
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Before that, the thing they were making was a fourteen minute comedy, featuring a a deep fake version of Donald Trump. And so that's what got Which is good. Canned.
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Did you just yawn during your own segment?
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I've been doing a lot of talking here.
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You know, another good another good south park thing. Another good south park thing that I stole from them a long time ago was there's this video of them talking about storytelling.
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We've seen this where they're like,
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they're like, we have one trick when it comes to story. So one rule when it comes to storytelling.
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And,
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They it's like they're teaching a class, I think, on storytelling.
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And they go anywhere.
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You can say,
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and and then this happened. Like, you know, what when a kid tells a boring story, they're like, I came from school. And then my mom said this. And then she said I can have some candy. And then she got the candy. And then it's like, this is the most boring story effort. Just, you know, kill me now. And then, you know, and then is that a key word where You're not providing any twists and turns that would make this an interesting story. You're just layering on more shit, more shit, more shit. And so they're, like,
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swap that with a, but,
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therefore.
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So instead, you would say,
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I came home from school and asked my mom for candy,
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but she wasn't home. And she's always supposed to be home.
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Therefore,
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I went outside and they started saying, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom.
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But the only person who was there was this, my neighbor who's always creepy, blah blah blah. And so, but, and therefore,
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make for an interesting story whereas, and then makes for a boring story. So they can literally take a script and just cross out all the sort of, like, and then,
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types of of of connector words and replace them with a button so or a button therefore.
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With someone tweeted,
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why do you like my first million? And we got, like, hundreds of replies. And the common thread was,
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Sean just oozes and drips charisma
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and his storytelling
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is so
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good and is just addicting.
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And Sam is a funny laugh.
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One
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guy
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goes.
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Sean.
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Sean's got
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such good stories, and he's such a great storyteller.
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Sorry, Sam.
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Yeah. I don't know what was good other. I think because I retweeted it, so it was, like, you know, people who like me, I guess, who were who were applying. But,
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Yeah. They were, like, you know, the the experience of stories, whatever. I was, like, I feel like your experience of stories and, like, crazy weirdness is what makes the podcast tick. I really believe that. I think oh, here's another compliment I got for you. I was actually gonna start the pod with this. I forgot.
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I was when we were at that
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like, you know, weekend retreat or whatever.
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I had asked somebody a question. I was like, because I'm trying to think about what to do in my life. Right? I'm like, okay, sold milk road. Thinking about what's next. And I was like,
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okay. I think life comes down to,
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like, picking the right thing to want. So, like, picking what you want
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and then bending reality to make it happen. Yeah. And picking the right thing to want in the first place,
40:08
is almost even harder than becoming a reality bender. Like, at this point, I believe I'm a reality bender. That was hard. That was the first fifteen years. And now I realized, oh, shoot. If I am a reality vendor, I better pick right. And so I said
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so I asked somebody, I go I go, who was there? I go,
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Man, who do we know? Who who are our examples of people that
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I feel like they pick the right things to to care about and to work on and, like, go like, they pick the right goals, basically.
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And then they've been reality and make them happen. And I was like,
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who's, like, a plus at both of those things?
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And I thought I would have this, like, handful, like, just like a a basket full of examples that I could just be pulling out from for inspiration.
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And what I found was that even the people who I think are super smart,
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most of them
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were picking like dumb things to to think about care about work on. Right? Like, they were not picking well. And then a bunch of people who picked well weren't ever gonna bend reality to their will. It was like, yeah, I talked to him five years ago. Still wanted that. Here we are five years five years later.
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And no no real progress. You know, they're still just chucking along, kind of, like, they don't really they haven't really figured out how to make it happen. So, like, I'll give you some examples of what I mean by this. So we have a buddy
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I'll kinda pick on a I'll pick on him, but I won't say his name.
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Very successful. Probably
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worth, I don't know, hundred to two hundred million.
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I feel like has just been batting a thousand, like, just had wins ever since the age of, like, you know, twenty four. Like, just kinda first thing worked in a small way. Next thing worked in a big way.
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Now they're doing a new thing, you know, that's, you know, or in between, they invested in a bunch of things, good investments.
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Now they're doing a new thing. It's sure enough. It's working. And they make it look easy. To the point where I was jealous, I was like, damn, this person makes it look easy. And I'm like, but the problem is
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and I even told them this. I go, I feel like you beat the level of this video game. And then instead of going on to the next level, You just hit reset on your superintendent and play that same level again.
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And you're doing that thing where you're just almost, like, trying to speedrun that same level. Like, perfect, you know, like, people who play Mario and they're like, I'm gonna perfect this level. Right. I was like, dude, just go to the next level and have have a different adventure. Have a improved adventure. Right? Like, more challenging or more interesting or just new.
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And they're at first, they were like, when I told them this day, I was like,
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they were starting a new thing. It was working.
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Everybody else was patting them on the back being like,
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you done it again.
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It's working.
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I can't believe how easily you're able to make these things work. And I was sort of like,
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I feel that way, but I also feel like you're playing the same level. Of course, you're making this work again. You already know how to do this.
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They did a thing recently where they bought a company.
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And they were super pumped that the company, like
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and it was a great buy. They made a great buy. They bought a company. It's not like they had a background buying companies. They just did it. They bought the right thing. It wasn't available on the market. They found the person. They convinced them to sell. It's making a few million dollars of profit a year. They they're gonna pay back their whole in, you know, fifteen months or something like that. It's a fantastic buy by all accounts.
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But why why are they doing that? What does that bring to your life? You're already worth, you know, a hundred to two hundred million dollars. This two million dollars a year of profit is not doing anything except for distracting you from maybe what you should focus on, which would be something else.
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And,
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it's kinda nit picking, you know, like, a, you know, somebody who's, you know, amazing at, like, at a game. So I I kind of don't want it to be I don't mean it in a negative way. I just made it and man, it's really hard to find somebody who picks the right shit and knocks it out the park.
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And what do I know? As I'm brainstorming, I'm like, dude, I think Sam is that guy.
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Oh, because I I thought of a couple of people, but I just, like, last night when I was thinking about this, I was like, dude, Sam is the best example. Let me tell you why.
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I remember when you were,
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like, you've done a bunch of things where you're like, I'm gonna motorcycle across America.
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It was like, like, not what everybody else was picking. You weren't just following approved.
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You then immediately went and did it. So you've done a bunch of things that, like, I feel like you were choosing. You didn't just do what everybody else was doing. And each one added to your, like, life value.
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So it's like, oh, this trip across America. Right? Or this way to make a bunch of money, you know, because having a bunch of money gives me this, like, safety net and ability and ammo to go do cool stuff.
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Even after you so the newsletter was another one where it's like, what the hell is this guy doing? But you figured it out. You bent bent reality two will. You made it happen. And you were completely right. Right? I I was like, oh, you're gonna do a contact company and your answer is I'm gonna do better content.
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And I was like, where's the disruption? Where's the technology?
45:03
Where's the new platform? What's the what's the pitch?
45:06
And the pitch was like, yeah. Like, you ever read this stuff, man? It's dry. It's boring. It doesn't even, like, has speak to us. And I was like,
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your plan is to be less boring. That was literally your business plan. Right? Like, it was literally your pitch deck for the hustle. I was like, I call it the Daily Show effect.
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I was like, we're just gonna be like a little funny.
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Yeah. I was like, dude, that is not a pitch. I remember I was trying to give you, like, help. I was trying to help a friend. No.
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I needed the help. And it was so stupid. It was so stupid. I can't believe it worked if I'm being honest. Like, I was right in a way that it didn't become, like, a multi billion dollar company because you weren't doing some, like, crazy crazy shit, but, like, so it it may not have been the right investment. So maybe I was right there, but but who cares? Cause you were, like, dude, I'm gonna own ninety percent of this. And I'm gonna sell this. I'm gonna have, you know, like, whatever. Tens of millions of dollars in my bank account. Which will let me live and do whatever the hell I want by that time I'm thirty. And then sure enough, it's exactly what you did. You got free to your will. You picked the right goal. You were like, I'm gonna have this, like, huge financial war chest by doing the thing I know.
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I'm gonna have fun build a cool brand and meet a bunch of cool people along the way like he did with Oscar Con, so you did that. Then You were like, alright. Should I do this Airbnb thing? You started thinking about luxury Airbnbs and short term rentals and creating a portfolio there and I was like, wow. How does he think of it? Like, what Again, that's not where
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most people are going with the next step of their career.
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And
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you sort of pick and then you and then the thing you've picked now, which we don't talk about too much now. But, like, like, eventually. Yeah. I think is the perfect project for you, and it's the perfect project for where you're at. I'm like, Damn. He did it again. I even texted you this. I go, your project selection was so perfect.
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All I can do now is try to think of the second best project to pick for for my And what was my reply to you? Did you remember?
46:57
You oh, you were like dude, you had this. You, you know, you stopped. Right? Or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Because I actually I I don't wanna say it too much because then it'll it'll kinda give it away. But, like, yeah, I had prototyped the same idea
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liked it. But I was, like, you know, didn't have it all kinda figured out and I wasn't really ready to go do a new thing. And so I just kinda, like,
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I took the, like, the quick win, and I moved on. And you were just like, oh, wait. That's, like, you know, that that's actually you figured out the right way to do and you're doing it. Amazing. And it's gonna work. So,
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dude, I just wanna say, I think you're that guy. And I think this is a really important thing to figure out is who are the people that you think,
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choose the right things to focus on
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and then are able to bend reality to their will. Because that's, like, the one two punch that is, like, most important in life. And I think that, well, thank you for those compliments. You got Alright. One one more. One more. It's not just about work. Right? So it's like fitness.
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Right? If we showed that before and after, like, you really, like, made it a point,
47:59
to get in phenomenal shape, health wise. That's and and not just, like, your and not just, like, shape, but, like, mobility,
48:06
strength, athletic system, like, things that actually, like, are
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de aging. Right? Like, they're the reverse reversing aging rather than just how many friends do we have that just basically are, like,
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Only focused on stockpiling success and money, and you meet them and you're just like, dude, like, you're just going downhill. Right? Right? Like, the aging is, like, It's going at double speed. So, yeah, you're making more money, but you're doubling your age rate by the stress, the lack of the bad lifestyle that you're living. Right? It's like, it's not good.
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And so that's very common. And I think you're uncommon in that. The last one is, like, let's say family or relationships, that sort of thing too. Like, how do you make it a point to be good at that, right, choose the right focus or I wanna have this great family life, and then bend reality to your will. And so I think,
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I really respect that, you know, about you, and I think that that's something that I'm looking for more models of that in my life because,
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I now realize that that's the most important one, two punch.
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Well, thank you. I think
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Not to like out with you on this podcast, but Yeah. If you want, like, buy me dinner first.
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But I think You got you you we flattered you, with this tweet. So you got your ego. I was I was I messaged Sean ago.
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God, these guys really hurt my feelings.
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But I think the
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what I learned the reason why I'm able to do some of these things. One, think it was Guy Ritchie. He said something like, you are the director of your own movie.
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And whenever I heard that line, I was like, oh, yeah. Like, I don't like this game I'm playing, but I also make up the rules. So I'm gonna I'm gonna make the rules to my game. I'm, like, it's, like, I only have myself to blame if I'm not happy because I'm I make the rules. And so that kinda changed my perspective. And another thing was working with Sophia Amarusso. That she's, the, NASA gal, this, you know, big company, and then now she's got business classes. Do you think she's her and I become great friends? And she was like, hey, I need some help with my two thousand twenty three goal setting.
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And I was like, cool. Here's,
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my framework for doing this. Let's sit down and sit for an hour and do it. And I was like, Sophia, how are you so successful? And you've never, like, written down, like, what you're proud of the previous year, what you regretted, what would make you happy to accomplish this year, what those numb like, I'm like, I was like, alright. So here's how much money how much money do you wanna What would make you happy? Okay. That number? Alright. Great. Let's work backwards and have a plan. Alright. Cool. What about, I always do family fitness, fun finance. So I'm like, Alright. What about relationships? What what would make you proud in one year to be? Alright. Let's do,
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your body. You know, where do you wanna be physically? Let's write down a plan for that. And, like, boom. So we just set aside this time. That was our worry time. This was the time where we're gonna stress, and we're gonna worry about what's gonna make us happy. And we're gonna make a guess that, boom, that's gonna make us happy. Then we're gonna stress on this plan.
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Have we settled? Is the plan done? The plan's done. I'm not worrying about it anymore. All I'm doing is executing this. The worry time is done. Next quarter, I'll give myself eight hours on a Sunday. Then I can worry then. But between now and then, there is no such thing as worry. All that all all that there is is I'm executing the plan. The worry time already happened, and I've got scheduled worry time in the future. And so what I think a lot of people don't do is they don't spend enough time sitting down and saying, what do I want? What are the rules of the game that I'm going to play? And let's create those rules and literally write them down. And for the next some period of time, I'm gonna follow those rules as best I can. And then we're gonna reassess. Are those rules actually good? And I don't think people do that systematically enough. So you said something like, you know, I didn't like the way that the movie was going, but then I realized I'm the director and I could switch it. Like, what what was that
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point? And what was the movie like before, and then what what did you make a point to switch?
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Well,
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you know, when I was between the ages of, like, nineteen and, like, twenty three, like, I had some substance issues and I got in trouble and everything, And I remember this sounds like really lame, but I remember watching a concert. It was actually Oasis, which makes us even lamer. And they were singing a song And I remember, like, watching yeah. It was, like, really lame. I remember I was, like, drunk in bed, like, watching this YouTube video. And I remembered, like, the singer was outputting very little energy, like and yet there was a hundred thousand people in the crowd singing back to them. And I'm like, Wow, that's leverage, man. This guy wrote this song in his bedroom, and it's like, because it's such a good song, and he has such an interesting personality that he's got, like, a hundred thousand fans as well as forty million views repeating back to him the words, even though he's exerting a little bit of energy, that's leverage. That's the ideal way to live your life is to have leverage, and I'm wasting it And so I remember, like, changing it around after I saw that. And I'm like, that is,
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I was like, I think I'm special enough to do something like that. I don't know how I'm going to do it. But I know I have the ability to get there, but I'm wasting it by not leveraging myself. And I can only truly have leverage if I focus on, like, what my goals are gonna be. So I remember, like, going through that and like that is really what changed it. And then moving to San Francisco and meeting you, meeting a a couple other people, and it normalized
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achieving goals. And then I realized, okay, great. I can bend the reality easily. I know how to do that. Now I just gotta figure out on what do I want and then just figuring out, like, what's a holistic want. And so I met a couple people,
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who it's, like,
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they weren't all focused on work, and I would ask them why they're doing something. And they're like, because it's sick. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Life can be fun. Like, it doesn't just have to be about money. And,
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Yeah. I remember changing when I lived in Nashville when I was a loser. I was like, I'm a fucking loser right now, but I know I haven't hit factor.
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And when you,
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you met people who have a who had a holistic,
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like, a holistic want. Is that what you called it? Yeah. Like, or I'll just, like, read about them. So, like, Laird Hamilton. You know Laird Hamilton? Yeah. Like, he interests me or, like, Rod Dyrdek, where these guys, and I'm, like, You're just doing dumb shit
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just to do dumb shit. And they're just like, yeah, but it's fun. And I'm like, oh my god. You're so right. That it it is fun. I that I need to have more fun. So, like, I remember, like, reading or talking about them on the pod, and that, like, kinda, has changed a little bit too.
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Yeah. And you kind of seem to like these people that,
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like, they kind of chart their own path or they're like, they just they do it somewhat, like,
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Like Rob Dyrdek, you know, it's like he's
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a skateboarder,
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makes it kind of like a a show that's like,
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you know, hanging out with his friends and this, like, the fantasy factory and, like, all this stuff. Right? Like, it's kind of, like,
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your fun, but it's, like, have fun on blast or have turn your fun into business in some way. Right? Is that is that kind of like a good description? Like, why do you like those personalities
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more than,
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You know, whoever, you know, the the
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the traditional people that people look up to. Like, I don't think most people in and who are entrepreneurs when you say,
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do you think's kinda got it figured out? Or who do you who do you look up to? They're not, like, laird Hamilton and Rob Diergeck. Right? Like, it looks like a unique thing to say. So why is that? Because most people don't live life intensely enough. And because they and they I think they don't live it intensely enough because they're afraid. And I'm afraid too. But then I see people do stuff. So
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Like, for example,
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like, wouldn't it be cool if we owned, like, a farm and we just go out there and just, like, shoot guns and ride motorcycles and, like, have a blast. Like, that would be fun. Like, if you're just, like, sitting around and be like, I wish I could do that. It's like, cool. You could do that. Gonna make this much money, you're gonna save it, you're gonna go buy this farm, then you're gonna go buy all
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the motorcycles, and then you're gonna tell all your friends about it. And, like, now you have this thing. Like,
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you can do that, like, or, like, or some people are like, man, it'd be, like, I like cars. I'm like, I wish I just had a warehouse full of cars and I could just sit around my friends and just, like, tinker on the cars. I'm like, Great. You can do that. Like, I I just think that you can make any rule you want and then, like, make it a reality. So that's why I just, like, get off on that. And I don't think people
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even when it comes to work, fitness, or fun, that they dial up the the they're they're living at, like, a three when they it's very easy to turn it to an eight.
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So what would be, let's say, before your twenties your twenties
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two or whatever, and now you're thirty what are you thirty one, thirty two? Third I was born in eighty nine. What does that mean? I'm thirty three thirty three. Okay. So you're thirty three years old.
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And I feel like you did a a kind of, like, you dialed up the knob on fitness. Right? We saw before and after photo. I told you. I I tweeted I think I do two years ago, I got I go, I'm gonna become a fitness influencer this year. Yeah. I know.
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This might not have been the right thing to want, actually. Maybe I take that It's not. But, like, I the point being, I was, like, I'm gonna guilt myself into getting fit. Right. The second thing is you turned up the knob on finances, so you went from broke to
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never have to work again. Right? Like, you broke to rich.
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You went from, you know, single to, you know, married and and with somebody you love. You went from,
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I don't know if you were having a lot of fun then, but, like, I think now you have, like, your I have a lot of fun where you can, like, go and chew, you know, chute guns, motorcycles, workout, you know, whatever you live in different places, different times of the year, right, you're crafting that, whatever lifestyle you're you're into right now. Alright. So that's thirty three.
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What's the next holistic want for you so that forty three is, is it just
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more of the same? Like, do the same thing? Do, like, enjoy this for the next ten years? Or is it there's another
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there's a there's another level you're you're looking to breach.
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Financially,
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if I'm not worth at least a hundred and fifty million dollars by the age of forty, that would I would be consider that would be a miss on my goals. Now that just What's the meme? I'm not worth a hundred fifty million dollars. You know, I'm gay and my parents die.
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Like, I think that. But, like, obviously, that's gonna have no impact on happiness, but that's just, like, the goal I have.
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So that's that's it. I think well, I my By the way, why would you do something that has no impact on happiness?
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Why would you wanna bench three hundred pounds? It's just because. So that's well, but, like, some people do. Like, I I because I set goals and I hit them. That's why, because that's what I do.
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That, like, you know, like, I I don't know. I just I I thought that would be a cool goal, and I think it's really fun. The the journey of, like, achieving that is cool. Like,
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I think it's, like, you'd respect yourself if you've pulled that off.
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Yeah. Because I'm afraid that I can't do it. Therefore, that's my that's not my goal.
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Yeah. So I don't know. Like, why do you wanna why do you wanna why do you wanna be ripped? Like, it's I don't know if it'll make you happy, but it's, like, it's just a cool little thing.
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And then,
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I'll have kids so that will change a thing. But what I really want is I wanna own more property that can I wanna own compounds? That's really what that's that's kinda like a goal is to have compounds. So you remember when we went to Camp MFM, and, we were at, like, basically a compound. I want a bunch of sick ones of those. And regardless if I'm there or not, I'd be like, yeah, you guys go and use the compound. You could have it.
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That's really what I want. I care about physical space. Like that. I think that that would be
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something I'm looking forward to. But
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no. I don't really have that many goals other than those things. I just wanna live a dope life. And I'll be look at that. Just just be a be a fucking man. Like, I get I get pride out of being being a man and, like
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well, I just like, look, I I am fearful of everything that everyone else is fearful of and probably even more. I I would say maybe I'm even more sensitive to that. And so I think it's fun to be like, I'm afraid to have this hard conversation. Therefore, I must have this hard conversation with this person. And I feel like pride and, like, being a man and, like, honoring
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you know, what I'm supposed to honor. I'm afraid to have this conversation.
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Therefore, I must have this conversation.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like,
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You you know what I'm saying? Like, it feels good to, like,
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be like, look, I'm brave. I could do it. I just get I get off on those things. Yeah. There's a part of me that's a lot like you, and then there's a part of me that's not that way at all, but it's really funny just to see that.
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Just dialed up to ten. And it's like, yeah, that's just how he lives. And that's what's important to him. Like you said, it's really, like, what did you say? Really important to be a fucking man. Yeah. Or, like, for me to be a fucking man. And I just found that
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that's hilarious. It never that's a thought I have never had. Well, you know, like, someone told me different in that way. Someone told me they're like, real men don't change their opinion.
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Based on every little, like, bit of emotion or insight that they have. And, like, I and I remember up into that. I remember at the hustle, and you do you do this too. And and I do this all the time. I'm running a company and something bad happens and I'm like, oh, the company's ruined.
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Like, our quarterly plans are shit. Everything's gonna go fire I'm gonna fire everyone. And then someone told me they're like, men don't behave that way. And I was like, oh, you're right. Like,
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like, I gotta be a man about this, and I cannot I cannot get emotional over the some of this stuff. I have to, like, like, not there's not been meaningful data yet to show that I should change my opinion. This is just normal, like,
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bad you had,
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like, forty percent more jewelry,
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twenty percent more,
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tint on your glasses and eighty percent more of an accent, you could be and your tape.
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You're just, like, a few tweaks away. Did you're, like, a shit. I'm like making this dish.
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I test the sauce.
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Little umami
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a little bit a little more salt. A little dash or Romania.
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Eastern European.
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Maybe need a little bit of that. A little By the way, little more jewelry, little man man jewelry,
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you could be Andrew Tate. I'd call about Andrew Tate as having he was the, like, it was a breakout year until twenty two. And then I read about what his,
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about what he's accused of doing in, like, some of the evidence I saw, like, a video where he admitted it. Do you see the video where he admitted it? No. Well, he admitted it. He, like, talks about how he manipulates these girls into being on webcam and how he, like, he just says horrible shit. I wanna say that that pick is sorta like Time Magazine making Hitler the person of the year in nineteen thirty eight.
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Like They do that. It's not a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, like, two years before World War two. Hitler was times per se. Wait a year. Are you serious? I swear to god. Yeah. I don't know what year it was. Time magazine. That's insane. Person of of year. Let's find out what year it was. Nineteen thirty eight. Yeah. I was right. Nineteen thirty eight. He was times person to year because he came in power, and he, like, made a lot of change. But, like,
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what I'm Honestly,
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what a sick reference by you just now to draw that analogy
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and nail the year
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and talking about a magazine and we're that was.
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Dude, because, like, chefs did. That was wonderful.
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Because, yeah, by the way, Google it. You could see the picture. There's, like, a picture of him on Time magazine when he was a year. You can be breakout of the year and also a piece of shit. And I wanna say Andrew Tate,
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breakout person of of the year. Huge piece of shit. You gotta go and see what this guy says. Now also, the thing about pieces of shit,
01:02:57
you could be ninety percent, alright, and ninety percent of the things say can be like, oh, yeah. That's a really good point. You've just inspired me to go work out. And but ten percent of it could be horrible. And because of that, I dislike you, and that's kinda what he does. To me. Where at, like, ninety percent, I'm like, yeah, that's a great line. You're right. Oh, great. Let's empower men to exercise and have confidence
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Oh,
01:03:18
but anytime
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you use the and then someone's race,
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I'm out.
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You know?
01:03:27
I actually don't know if he said that, but, like, anytime I hear, like, the Jews or the blacks, I'm like, yeah, I'm out here. I'm not on board with that.
01:03:37
Alright. So this is officially the Bro episode or the Broman's episode. We did
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semi glue tied and the weight loss get shredded the part. We did South Park creators as Billy of the as as Billy of the week.
01:03:52
We did,
01:03:53
Sam's, you know, therapy sessions slash me sucking up to Sam where I've gassed him up.
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We did be a fucking man as,
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as an internal monologue.
01:04:04
And I think this is the bro episode, the bromance episode. I hope,
01:04:08
By the way, we said something the other day. We were like, you know, to our four female fans.
01:04:14
Thank you for coming. We it's, like,
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at every Indian wedding, for some reason, my mother-in-law,
01:04:19
she has to give a speech where she thinks individually everybody who came from India because there's, like, just like she's, like, they came so far. I have to say, thank you. This, auntie, for coming. Stand up, please, and then every time. And then she says
01:04:34
and this person came also from so far. Stand up, please. And it's, like, the worst speech you've ever seen. That's how we are with our four female fans where we're like, thank you, Ashley.
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You are still here.
01:04:46
We so, so, so appreciate it.
01:04:49
Sorry about the be a fucking man part earlier. That was probably boring and or offensive.
01:04:56
But thank you so much. And so they they dmed us, after we made that joke on the last spot, and they're like, hey, female fan here,
01:05:04
you know, whatever. I love it. And so I hope we just didn't lose them after this episode.
01:05:09
We did. This was not the Bro podcast. Everything we said,
01:05:12
that's good regardless of who you are. Be a fucking man. Change it to be a fucking woman. You're alright.
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Alright. We're out of here. Before we get canceled, let's go. Let's leave.
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