00:00

You text me something you're like, Sean,

You text me something you're like, Sean,

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you're you're seven out of ten funny. You're eight out of ten charming. And I was like, this is it. This is the same par compliment I think I'm getting here.

you're you're seven out of ten funny. You're eight out of ten charming. And I was like, this is it. This is the same par compliment I think I'm getting here.

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I'm back.

I'm back.

00:25

When Michael Jordan came back to the Lee, he just faxed in a one pager with just those words on it. I'm back. We have a lot in common.

When Michael Jordan came back to the Lee, he just faxed in a one pager with just those words on it. I'm back. We have a lot in common.

00:33

Him and I. Yeah. Unfortunately, when he came back, he was wearing number forty five and,

Him and I. Yeah. Unfortunately, when he came back, he was wearing number forty five and,

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he kinda sucked that year and they got knocked out of the playoffs. So I'm hoping you're coming back a little stronger.

he kinda sucked that year and they got knocked out of the playoffs. So I'm hoping you're coming back a little stronger.

00:44

Us six seven black guys. We have a lot in common. You know what I'm saying? Me and me and MJ,

Us six seven black guys. We have a lot in common. You know what I'm saying? Me and me and MJ,

00:50

did you miss me? It it felt like a long time for me. I don't think it felt like a long time for you because you were pretty prolific. You kinda had a couple hits. I did so many podcasts in the last three weeks.

did you miss me? It it felt like a long time for me. I don't think it felt like a long time for you because you were pretty prolific. You kinda had a couple hits. I did so many podcasts in the last three weeks.

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I definitely missed you because that was a lot of content. I don't know why I did that. I should have done in retrospect.

I definitely missed you because that was a lot of content. I don't know why I did that. I should have done in retrospect.

01:07

Let's say,

Let's say,

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okay. Sam's out. Let's not force the issue when he comes back. We'll come back strong. Instead, I overcompensated

okay. Sam's out. Let's not force the issue when he comes back. We'll come back strong. Instead, I overcompensated

01:13

when you're out, and I was like, no.

when you're out, and I was like, no.

01:15

I am going to create all the content the world needs tonight, and that's what I tried to do. And also,

I am going to create all the content the world needs tonight, and that's what I tried to do. And also,

01:23

We were working really hard ahead of time. I mean, I felt like I was recording a bunch ahead of time. So you've been kinda grounded now for about five weeks now. It feels like Yeah. The funny thing is we thought you were gonna be out this month. So we have all these guest hosts planned for this month that your baby came early. And so now we have, like, a full month of guests,

We were working really hard ahead of time. I mean, I felt like I was recording a bunch ahead of time. So you've been kinda grounded now for about five weeks now. It feels like Yeah. The funny thing is we thought you were gonna be out this month. So we have all these guest hosts planned for this month that your baby came early. And so now we have, like, a full month of guests,

01:42

coming up there. I can go away. I can go away again. But you did great. I we'll we'll talk about some of the stuff I was doing, but you were doing great. So the Sarah,

coming up there. I can go away. I can go away again. But you did great. I we'll we'll talk about some of the stuff I was doing, but you were doing great. So the Sarah,

01:52

Moore podcast was phenomenal. That woman is a superstar. You did a very good job of getting some good stuff out of her. You also did a non pod thing that I thought was some of your finest work. The,

Moore podcast was phenomenal. That woman is a superstar. You did a very good job of getting some good stuff out of her. You also did a non pod thing that I thought was some of your finest work. The,

02:03

all in

all in

02:04

podcast video or the all in CEO application. If you haven't seen it, go to Sean's Twitter, and you'll see it. It got one point one million views, Alec this morning. Alright. Ready?

podcast video or the all in CEO application. If you haven't seen it, go to Sean's Twitter, and you'll see it. It got one point one million views, Alec this morning. Alright. Ready?

02:15

Welcome. Welcome to my five minute job application to become CEO

Welcome. Welcome to my five minute job application to become CEO

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of the all in podcast. This is the American dream, baby. I have worked my ass off for years just so that one day, I could get to work with such a group of successful,

of the all in podcast. This is the American dream, baby. I have worked my ass off for years just so that one day, I could get to work with such a group of successful,

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intelligent billionaires,

intelligent billionaires,

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and Jason Calicanis.

and Jason Calicanis.

02:35

That was very good. And you did it all on your own. You even edited it. Right? Yeah. I didn't have an editor,

That was very good. And you did it all on your own. You even edited it. Right? Yeah. I didn't have an editor,

02:41

And it was one of those ideas that so okay. I'll just explain what it is. So the all in podcast, which is a popular business podcast,

And it was one of those ideas that so okay. I'll just explain what it is. So the all in podcast, which is a popular business podcast,

02:51

is they were like, oh, we're hiring a CEO. And it's the it started by these four guys, whereas these super rich guys, I I the joke I make is The all in pod is billionaires talking about billionaire shit, and our pod is millionaires talking about millionaire shit. And so

is they were like, oh, we're hiring a CEO. And it's the it started by these four guys, whereas these super rich guys, I I the joke I make is The all in pod is billionaires talking about billionaire shit, and our pod is millionaires talking about millionaire shit. And so

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the they were like, we're hiring a CEO to turn this into a real brand and whatever.

the they were like, we're hiring a CEO to turn this into a real brand and whatever.

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And so I,

And so I,

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I was like, you know, it'd be funny if I did, like, a joke application to this pa to the for the job. So I recorded this video. Problem is

I was like, you know, it'd be funny if I did, like, a joke application to this pa to the for the job. So I recorded this video. Problem is

03:20

the video is good. But, I only wrote at the very end

the video is good. But, I only wrote at the very end

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that this was a joke and, like, not meant to be taken seriously. So people are texting my dad. They're like, hey. I heard Sean's get the job for a CEO all in. Congratulations. My dad's like, what's all in? What's a podcast?

that this was a joke and, like, not meant to be taken seriously. So people are texting my dad. They're like, hey. I heard Sean's get the job for a CEO all in. Congratulations. My dad's like, what's all in? What's a podcast?

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And I'm like And you're insulting them the whole time. They're funny thing. By the way, I told him I go My dad texted me that, and I go, no, no, no, it's just a joke. And then he goes, okay. Who started it? He thinks like someone's, like, messing with me?

And I'm like And you're insulting them the whole time. They're funny thing. By the way, I told him I go My dad texted me that, and I go, no, no, no, it's just a joke. And then he goes, okay. Who started it? He thinks like someone's, like, messing with me?

03:51

I started it. But you were you were, like, you were a rivet on them. I mean, it was funny. Yeah. It was so it's all fair because it was mostly funny stuff. But you were giving them a hard time. So that's pretty funny. And then a couple of them replied and be like, you've made it to the second round. So I actually thought they handled it well. Did did they reach out to you at all? No. They handled it well. They didn't reach out, you know, just like the public replies or whatever.

I started it. But you were you were, like, you were a rivet on them. I mean, it was funny. Yeah. It was so it's all fair because it was mostly funny stuff. But you were giving them a hard time. So that's pretty funny. And then a couple of them replied and be like, you've made it to the second round. So I actually thought they handled it well. Did did they reach out to you at all? No. They handled it well. They didn't reach out, you know, just like the public replies or whatever.

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And then they played it on the pot on their They played the first five seconds or ten seconds on their podcast.

And then they played it on the pot on their They played the first five seconds or ten seconds on their podcast.

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And,

And,

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unfortunately, that made it even worse because that part is where it sounds like I'm serious about it. And then I start roasting them, but they cut off all the me roasting them and just put the part where it's, hey, I I'm applying for this job.

unfortunately, that made it even worse because that part is where it sounds like I'm serious about it. And then I start roasting them, but they cut off all the me roasting them and just put the part where it's, hey, I I'm applying for this job.

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Which is actually the best roast back that they could have done. I I think our our friend messaged us and said, one of the great things about or what did he say? He said, a really, powerful tool is to be able to take the popular narrative and blunt force your way into the conversation, and you did it perfectly.

Which is actually the best roast back that they could have done. I I think our our friend messaged us and said, one of the great things about or what did he say? He said, a really, powerful tool is to be able to take the popular narrative and blunt force your way into the conversation, and you did it perfectly.

04:51

Did a very good job. Talking about, news jacking. That I think Ryan holiday news jacking. Coined that term, or at least you popularized

Did a very good job. Talking about, news jacking. That I think Ryan holiday news jacking. Coined that term, or at least you popularized

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it, which is you take the current thing but you find a way to attach yourself to it and you sort of hijack the news, news jacking.

it, which is you take the current thing but you find a way to attach yourself to it and you sort of hijack the news, news jacking.

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And, it's not well, it wasn't my intent. I just wanted to try something funny. I so I've been

And, it's not well, it wasn't my intent. I just wanted to try something funny. I so I've been

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I'll I'll tell you, we do this podcast, and I love this podcast.

I'll I'll tell you, we do this podcast, and I love this podcast.

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But, also, I told you, I'm not, like, I'm trying to not

But, also, I told you, I'm not, like, I'm trying to not

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go start another company. Right? Which is all I've ever done for fifteen, sixteen years is go be like, I'm a startup CEO. I'm gonna start a company. It's kind of my identity. And I'm trying to shift that

go start another company. Right? Which is all I've ever done for fifteen, sixteen years is go be like, I'm a startup CEO. I'm gonna start a company. It's kind of my identity. And I'm trying to shift that

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and I'm having a lot of fun creating content, but also

and I'm having a lot of fun creating content, but also

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it doesn't take that much time to produce this podcast. Like,

it doesn't take that much time to produce this podcast. Like,

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take some time for sure. But, like, when you're used to working, I don't know,

take some time for sure. But, like, when you're used to working, I don't know,

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fifty, sixty hours a week, it

fifty, sixty hours a week, it

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I couldn't put fifty, sixty hours a week into this. And again, the smart chill move would be to just take that energy

I couldn't put fifty, sixty hours a week into this. And again, the smart chill move would be to just take that energy

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and

and

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go be a better dad.

go be a better dad.

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Go do some community service and just just better myself as a whole.

Go do some community service and just just better myself as a whole.

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But I'm a flawed human being. And so I need to direct that fifty, sixty eight hours of energy into some creative work project.

But I'm a flawed human being. And so I need to direct that fifty, sixty eight hours of energy into some creative work project.

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And so I was like, I've been looking for way, like, other content. I can create other content formats

And so I was like, I've been looking for way, like, other content. I can create other content formats

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that are gonna be fun. One of them was this, idea of doing, like, something that's a little bit funnier.

that are gonna be fun. One of them was this, idea of doing, like, something that's a little bit funnier.

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It's almost, the the thing I did was kind of, like, seen last week tonight or the daily show? It's sort of like Yeah. I know that you've been loving last week tonight. I know you've been loving that style. Yeah. So I will try to do that style.

It's almost, the the thing I did was kind of, like, seen last week tonight or the daily show? It's sort of like Yeah. I know that you've been loving last week tonight. I know you've been loving that style. Yeah. So I will try to do that style.

06:27

Which, by the way,

Which, by the way,

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very

very

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they're breaking. It's hard. It's one thing to be doing a podcast and crack a joke in the flow of a conversation. Another would be like,

they're breaking. It's hard. It's one thing to be doing a podcast and crack a joke in the flow of a conversation. Another would be like,

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in this video, gonna be funny. I'm gonna tell jokes and make you laugh. And it's like, wait, is this like, within ten minutes, I was like, is is any of this funny? It's just and I couldn't I couldn't figure it out, bro. I was like, I was like, I don't know if this is good or this is gonna be a total

in this video, gonna be funny. I'm gonna tell jokes and make you laugh. And it's like, wait, is this like, within ten minutes, I was like, is is any of this funny? It's just and I couldn't I couldn't figure it out, bro. I was like, I was like, I don't know if this is good or this is gonna be a total

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fucking lame thing to put out there.

fucking lame thing to put out there.

06:58

And that was a nice feeling. It was good to feel alive again. Well, here's the good news. Twitter is not a very funny place.

And that was a nice feeling. It was good to feel alive again. Well, here's the good news. Twitter is not a very funny place.

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So even an eight out of ten can crush it.

So even an eight out of ten can crush it.

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Yeah. You text me something. You're like, Sean,

Yeah. You text me something. You're like, Sean,

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you're you're seven out of ten funny. You're eight out of ten charming.

you're you're seven out of ten funny. You're eight out of ten charming.

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And so I was like, this is it. This is a Sampar compliment I think I'm getting here.

And so I was like, this is it. This is a Sampar compliment I think I'm getting here.

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It was awesome. I thought it was good.

It was awesome. I thought it was good.

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07:41

How's life as a dad? So you you created a baby? You didn't really create it. You you played a a small role in creating this baby.

How's life as a dad? So you you created a baby? You didn't really create it. You you played a a small role in creating this baby.

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But the baby's here now.

But the baby's here now.

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Life changed. Life the same. What's the situation?

Life changed. Life the same. What's the situation?

07:54

It changed.

It changed.

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I think I talked to thirty friends. You were one of them. And I think the predominant answer was you love this is from a man. You love your baby, but you're not in love with your baby. And I only heard about five of the thirty people say I was in love right away. And then the but predominantly, people were saying,

I think I talked to thirty friends. You were one of them. And I think the predominant answer was you love this is from a man. You love your baby, but you're not in love with your baby. And I only heard about five of the thirty people say I was in love right away. And then the but predominantly, people were saying,

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you know, it's they're just like an alien at first and you don't really get feedback.

you know, it's they're just like an alien at first and you don't really get feedback.

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That wasn't the case with me, man. I've I I was I was in right away. I've always been what I always say with animals and children, I'm softer than cream cheese. I've always been soft with with those types of things. And I was in right away, baby. I I I loved it. It was awesome. We got a,

That wasn't the case with me, man. I've I I was I was in right away. I've always been what I always say with animals and children, I'm softer than cream cheese. I've always been soft with with those types of things. And I was in right away, baby. I I I loved it. It was awesome. We got a,

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first of all, we did a c section, which is like magic.

first of all, we did a c section, which is like magic.

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The doctor was like, I'm starting now. And literally, I timed it. Four minutes later, the baby was crying and out.

The doctor was like, I'm starting now. And literally, I timed it. Four minutes later, the baby was crying and out.

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And then the doctor's like, and now I'm putting your uterus back inside of you. And, like,

And then the doctor's like, and now I'm putting your uterus back inside of you. And, like,

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It's crazy, man. Like, that's a line you used to use, right?

It's crazy, man. Like, that's a line you used to use, right?

08:55

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

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I was like,

I was like,

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Jake's you'll be a coke doc.

Jake's you'll be a coke doc.

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Wait. Were you in the room? You told me you were gonna be in the room. I was in the room. And, basically, what they do is, you know, mom is laying, like, one direction, and then they take the baby out and they bring her, like, ten feet to the side of her. And I I go and check on the baby, And I was like, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't

Wait. Were you in the room? You told me you were gonna be in the room. I was in the room. And, basically, what they do is, you know, mom is laying, like, one direction, and then they take the baby out and they bring her, like, ten feet to the side of her. And I I go and check on the baby, And I was like, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't look, don't

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look. Don't look. You're like, why are you cleaning? Why are you cleaning all the glassware over there?

look. Don't look. You're like, why are you cleaning? Why are you cleaning all the glassware over there?

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Yeah. I was like staring at my feet trying not to look, and I I definitely looked. It was pretty wild.

Yeah. I was like staring at my feet trying not to look, and I I definitely looked. It was pretty wild.

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It was gory.

It was gory.

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Another thing, it it made me view women as wizards.

Another thing, it it made me view women as wizards.

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The fact that they could, like, have this being growing inside of them, and then it, like, is out it's just, like, it gave me, like, almost a spiritual respect for my wife. It was that that was pretty natural.

The fact that they could, like, have this being growing inside of them, and then it, like, is out it's just, like, it gave me, like, almost a spiritual respect for my wife. It was that that was pretty natural.

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It's almost like you view her as a partner and also as, like, sex thing. Like, you know, like, she's she's sexualized to you. After this, I'm like, you're a god. Like, there is we

It's almost like you view her as a partner and also as, like, sex thing. Like, you know, like, she's she's sexualized to you. After this, I'm like, you're a god. Like, there is we

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you know what I mean? Like, I can't imagine, like, You are not, like, just beautiful to be. You are, like, this, like, spiritual being. So, like, the immense amount of respect. Another thing that happened, I remember thinking,

you know what I mean? Like, I can't imagine, like, You are not, like, just beautiful to be. You are, like, this, like, spiritual being. So, like, the immense amount of respect. Another thing that happened, I remember thinking,

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The so the week I went in, or the week we had the baby,

The so the week I went in, or the week we had the baby,

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I think the stock market was, like, dying or something. I barely looked, but I remember thinking, like, the volume of love that I had for this new baby was so loud that every other problem, which is,

I think the stock market was, like, dying or something. I barely looked, but I remember thinking, like, the volume of love that I had for this new baby was so loud that every other problem, which is,

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silent. I just didn't care nearly as much. And so that was like a pretty breathtaking thing to have. Did you experience that?

silent. I just didn't care nearly as much. And so that was like a pretty breathtaking thing to have. Did you experience that?

10:33

Some of those things you just described. So I would say, the first six weeks after watching my wife,

Some of those things you just described. So I would say, the first six weeks after watching my wife,

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give birth was, like,

give birth was, like,

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I was, like,

I was, like,

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you know, can can I refill that for you? What do you need? Let's just sit down and talk about your needs for a little bit. Like, how can I

you know, can can I refill that for you? What do you need? Let's just sit down and talk about your needs for a little bit. Like, how can I

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The peasant pleb that I am compared to you,

The peasant pleb that I am compared to you,

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don't just make your life one ounce easier?

don't just make your life one ounce easier?

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And it lasted, like, only six weeks. I gotta say. I went I reverted back to my normal self after that. But, like, for six weeks,

And it lasted, like, only six weeks. I gotta say. I went I reverted back to my normal self after that. But, like, for six weeks,

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the

the

11:07

the visceral feeling of watching that happen was,

the visceral feeling of watching that happen was,

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It made me just be like, okay. I'm you're a miracle, and I'm here to,

It made me just be like, okay. I'm you're a miracle, and I'm here to,

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ease your life in any way that I can because you just did the hardest thing I've ever seen.

ease your life in any way that I can because you just did the hardest thing I've ever seen.

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Like, you know, I don't know what a c section is like, but, like, you know, my life was doing all the pushing and all that stuff. And it's just like a primal experience.

Like, you know, I don't know what a c section is like, but, like, you know, my life was doing all the pushing and all that stuff. And it's just like a primal experience.

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No epidural, all that crap. And so Oh, wow. After that, I was definitely, like, use, you know, like, you're saying, just in awe. And you see, you know, like, a lot of people ask me when we got married, they're like, oh, You're married now. You know, is it how is life is it different with you guys? And I was like, no. We've been living together for three years. Like, literally nothing changed. And then But the time something did change was after the baby. And not even because of the baby more, how

No epidural, all that crap. And so Oh, wow. After that, I was definitely, like, use, you know, like, you're saying, just in awe. And you see, you know, like, a lot of people ask me when we got married, they're like, oh, You're married now. You know, is it how is life is it different with you guys? And I was like, no. We've been living together for three years. Like, literally nothing changed. And then But the time something did change was after the baby. And not even because of the baby more, how

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how I saw her just changed. You know, I, like, I saw her perform, you know, an act of god. And so that that was cool. So definitely felt that. Didn't feel the instant attachment, but

how I saw her just changed. You know, I, like, I saw her perform, you know, an act of god. And so that that was cool. So definitely felt that. Didn't feel the instant attachment, but

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That's cool that you did. Did you do, like, skin to skin and all that? Was it, like, Oh, yeah. Is it, like, a pheromone thing? Or, like, at the time, is it, like,

That's cool that you did. Did you do, like, skin to skin and all that? Was it, like, Oh, yeah. Is it, like, a pheromone thing? Or, like, at the time, is it, like,

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Is it chemical

Is it chemical

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or was it philosophical? Like, did you did you think it, or did it just, like,

or was it philosophical? Like, did you did you think it, or did it just, like,

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feel like the the where there's just the the chemicals in your brain going off. What was it? I haven't worn a shirt in two weeks. I basically just

feel like the the where there's just the the chemicals in your brain going off. What was it? I haven't worn a shirt in two weeks. I basically just

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For me, it was That's not what they mean when they say

For me, it was That's not what they mean when they say

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Yeah. I went and bought a bunch of beaters. I've only been wearing beatles, basically, for easy access. I did it just to keep the kid warm. I mean, I I do it just keep her warm, and it feels nice touching her skin. It's just like I just like touching her. I just I men are a little bit different. I've noticed. I watch a video on Instagram. It's like, oh, I'm just like playing with their face. And like just like rubbing her rubbing her cheeks and like rubbing her chest and rubbing her back. I just like touching her. It just makes me feel good to touch her and, I think it keeps her warm. Yeah. We, you also said something like it makes the other problems

Yeah. I went and bought a bunch of beaters. I've only been wearing beatles, basically, for easy access. I did it just to keep the kid warm. I mean, I I do it just keep her warm, and it feels nice touching her skin. It's just like I just like touching her. I just I men are a little bit different. I've noticed. I watch a video on Instagram. It's like, oh, I'm just like playing with their face. And like just like rubbing her rubbing her cheeks and like rubbing her chest and rubbing her back. I just like touching her. It just makes me feel good to touch her and, I think it keeps her warm. Yeah. We, you also said something like it makes the other problems

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seem small.

seem small.

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That's definitely true. Right? Because

That's definitely true. Right? Because

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Everything's relative

Everything's relative

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in life. Like, you know, isn't it crazy? Like, I saw a video the other day on TikTok. Maybe so sad. It was this video. It wasn't meant to be a sad video. It was

in life. Like, you know, isn't it crazy? Like, I saw a video the other day on TikTok. Maybe so sad. It was this video. It wasn't meant to be a sad video. It was

13:19

Like, you know these YouTubers that vlogged their life. It was a guy vlogging his day,

Like, you know these YouTubers that vlogged their life. It was a guy vlogging his day,

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except he was in Peru, and they lived in the hut with, like, dirt floor

except he was in Peru, and they lived in the hut with, like, dirt floor

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And his two kids, it it was, like, he wakes up at five in the morning. He does his morning routine, which is he does push ups. He was basically doing like Andrew Huberman, but, like, you know,

And his two kids, it it was, like, he wakes up at five in the morning. He does his morning routine, which is he does push ups. He was basically doing like Andrew Huberman, but, like, you know,

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real shit. You know, like he's doing push ups on the dirt floor. He's outside in nature because his home is

real shit. You know, like he's doing push ups on the dirt floor. He's outside in nature because his home is

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partially in nature.

partially in nature.

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And,

And,

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his kids were these two small kids, maybe, like, three or five years old.

his kids were these two small kids, maybe, like, three or five years old.

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And they were, like, just warming themselves up with, like, the hot water in the morning, and then they were doing their school work on the, like, cot that they were living on. I'll play this video. It, like,

And they were, like, just warming themselves up with, like, the hot water in the morning, and then they were doing their school work on the, like, cot that they were living on. I'll play this video. It, like,

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It is sad, and it's, like, heartwarming at the same time as this weird thing. And especially, you know, like, my daughter is the same age as the kid in the video. And so, like, You just see the difference in quality of life and it's kind of stunning.

It is sad, and it's, like, heartwarming at the same time as this weird thing. And especially, you know, like, my daughter is the same age as the kid in the video. And so, like, You just see the difference in quality of life and it's kind of stunning.

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And it's not the first time. Right? Like, I lived in Indonesia, my families from India. Like, I've seen poverty before, but you every time you see it, it's like, you know, just like re puts it back in the front of your brain rather than the Yeah. But was the guy happy? He was super happy, and that's when I was, or, like, he was happy. He was as happy as I am. And, I'm, like,

And it's not the first time. Right? Like, I lived in Indonesia, my families from India. Like, I've seen poverty before, but you every time you see it, it's like, you know, just like re puts it back in the front of your brain rather than the Yeah. But was the guy happy? He was super happy, and that's when I was, or, like, he was happy. He was as happy as I am. And, I'm, like,

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you know, this is, like, some obviously, like, college wisdom, but, like, it really is just we acclimate to whatever our circumstances are, and we have the sort of, like, a baseline normal But it is also, everything is relative. And so it's relative to your expectations. It's relative to your neighbors as relative to what you know and what you felt And so for him, you know,

you know, this is, like, some obviously, like, college wisdom, but, like, it really is just we acclimate to whatever our circumstances are, and we have the sort of, like, a baseline normal But it is also, everything is relative. And so it's relative to your expectations. It's relative to your neighbors as relative to what you know and what you felt And so for him, you know,

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whatever was happening that day would spike him up towards, you know, peak peak happiness. And if something was what went wrong, it would go a little bit below. And so, like, But the absolute

whatever was happening that day would spike him up towards, you know, peak peak happiness. And if something was what went wrong, it would go a little bit below. And so, like, But the absolute

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the absolute

the absolute

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should have been if you just, like, objectively, if an alien was watching, they would say certainly this person is at least ten times happier on an absolute basis. And it's like, no, not at all. We're actually probably exactly the same in the on an absolute basis.

should have been if you just, like, objectively, if an alien was watching, they would say certainly this person is at least ten times happier on an absolute basis. And it's like, no, not at all. We're actually probably exactly the same in the on an absolute basis.

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But one thing that does happen is if you have, you know, a kid, like your,

But one thing that does happen is if you have, you know, a kid, like your,

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your, quote, unquote problems from before are no longer problems.

your, quote, unquote problems from before are no longer problems.

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Or, like, you know, your kid has a runny nose and a cough. And all of a sudden,

Or, like, you know, your kid has a runny nose and a cough. And all of a sudden,

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who cares what's happening in Slack or what whatever else? And I think that's one of the It's one of the many blessings that kids will give you. The other which you haven't experienced yet probably is

who cares what's happening in Slack or what whatever else? And I think that's one of the It's one of the many blessings that kids will give you. The other which you haven't experienced yet probably is

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when you are talking, like, when a kid is little, like, maybe, let's say, a year and a half years old,

when you are talking, like, when a kid is little, like, maybe, let's say, a year and a half years old,

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you're showing them things and you're like, look, like, oh my god, the water is dripping or, like, Look at this. I could take this eraser and I could erase the words. It's gone. It's magic. And, like, in trying to make the kid, like, see the magic in the everyday things that you obviously are also there for the ride. And so you slow down and start to, like,

you're showing them things and you're like, look, like, oh my god, the water is dripping or, like, Look at this. I could take this eraser and I could erase the words. It's gone. It's magic. And, like, in trying to make the kid, like, see the magic in the everyday things that you obviously are also there for the ride. And so you slow down and start to, like,

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even when you're kind of faking it for the kid, you are feeling the same wonder about all the little things. So that's, like, the other huge thing that kids, I think, do for you. I'm excited for that.

even when you're kind of faking it for the kid, you are feeling the same wonder about all the little things. So that's, like, the other huge thing that kids, I think, do for you. I'm excited for that.

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Another thing that I don't think people discussed enough, and I think it's probably because I hang out with a bunch of Peter pants. So, like, most of my friends are between thirty and forty, have, like, some a financial success and just, like, go to Spain when they want our single. Can't pronounce the pizza? Yeah. Like,

Another thing that I don't think people discussed enough, and I think it's probably because I hang out with a bunch of Peter pants. So, like, most of my friends are between thirty and forty, have, like, some a financial success and just, like, go to Spain when they want our single. Can't pronounce the pizza? Yeah. Like,

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A lot of my friends are, like, kinda selfish, you know, not not that that's wrong, but what wasn't discussed with me ahead of time was I feel like a fucking man. I feel so masculine having a kid. Like, I feel like,

A lot of my friends are, like, kinda selfish, you know, not not that that's wrong, but what wasn't discussed with me ahead of time was I feel like a fucking man. I feel so masculine having a kid. Like, I feel like,

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I feel like it's the final piece of the puzzle and that I can continue putting the pieces together, but I have all of the pieces now. I didn't realize, how masculine it would make me feel. I think I read somewhere that someone defined masculinity as pro producing excess resources to make sure that your tribe has what they need. And I was like,

I feel like it's the final piece of the puzzle and that I can continue putting the pieces together, but I have all of the pieces now. I didn't realize, how masculine it would make me feel. I think I read somewhere that someone defined masculinity as pro producing excess resources to make sure that your tribe has what they need. And I was like,

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I get it. I and I I know. I think another I think that the definition of masculinity is looking up and defining the word masculinity.

I get it. I and I I know. I think another I think that the definition of masculinity is looking up and defining the word masculinity.

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To, like, put put some words to this. That that's the most masculine thing I could think of.

To, like, put put some words to this. That that's the most masculine thing I could think of.

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Hey.

Hey.

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I am what I am.

I am what I am.

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And then, I remember thinking how hormonal, like, I, like, I remember, like, like, I of two nights after or the first night home. I remember I just heard someone walking outside or something. Just in the street, and I just, like, bolted up and I, and I, and I was, like, ready to roll. And then it's also crazy how the woman, I was, like, And the doctor, I'm like, so when is she gonna start making milk? And, like, she didn't have it, like, two hours ago, and they're like, oh, she's probably ready to roll, like, right now.

And then, I remember thinking how hormonal, like, I, like, I remember, like, like, I of two nights after or the first night home. I remember I just heard someone walking outside or something. Just in the street, and I just, like, bolted up and I, and I, and I was, like, ready to roll. And then it's also crazy how the woman, I was, like, And the doctor, I'm like, so when is she gonna start making milk? And, like, she didn't have it, like, two hours ago, and they're like, oh, she's probably ready to roll, like, right now.

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And I was like, so you're telling me that

And I was like, so you're telling me that

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you didn't have it. And then, like, an hour later, you do. Like, they're like, yeah, your body just knows. And it was just mind boggling to me how primal and animalistic we are, yet we try to avoid that.

you didn't have it. And then, like, an hour later, you do. Like, they're like, yeah, your body just knows. And it was just mind boggling to me how primal and animalistic we are, yet we try to avoid that.

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Totally. Totally. It's miraculous. Is that not crazy to you? Like, like, where I I was, like, I was, like, you guys, where's the threshold? Like, does she have to, like, do push ups? What do we gotta do to, like

Totally. Totally. It's miraculous. Is that not crazy to you? Like, like, where I I was, like, I was, like, you guys, where's the threshold? Like, does she have to, like, do push ups? What do we gotta do to, like

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It's flowing.

It's flowing.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

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Is there a w we eat?

Is there a w we eat?

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Yeah.

Yeah.

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And they were like, oh, just give it a few hours. Because I had so many of those, like, Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Moments with the nurses. And they were like, yeah. So I was like, like, this happened also during the delivery. I was like, okay. And they were like, hey, you can, like, walk Like, you you know, you could deliver the baby standing up. You could be on all fours. You could I was like, on all fours. What are we talking about here? And they're like, yeah. Actually, it's a easier position, less painful. And I was like,

And they were like, oh, just give it a few hours. Because I had so many of those, like, Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Moments with the nurses. And they were like, yeah. So I was like, like, this happened also during the delivery. I was like, okay. And they were like, hey, you can, like, walk Like, you you know, you could deliver the baby standing up. You could be on all fours. You could I was like, on all fours. What are we talking about here? And they're like, yeah. Actually, it's a easier position, less painful. And I was like,

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every movie or TV show, there's only one position that they show.

every movie or TV show, there's only one position that they show.

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I'm like

I'm like

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They can't show but butthole on the camera. So that's why I'm in the, like, second phase of the, like, labor process, and I'm having to hang on. Hold on. No way.

They can't show but butthole on the camera. So that's why I'm in the, like, second phase of the, like, labor process, and I'm having to hang on. Hold on. No way.

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No way moment. And they're, like, Dude, it's first of all, it's just not about you right now. You need to learn. That's actually rule number one. Rule number two. Yes. All of these things that you don't understand, they're real, and they happen. Yeah. So that was crazy. And then maybe I'll say the last thing. I don't know how this has impacted your career, but let's talk about money for a minute. I have a feeling this is gonna significantly better in my career because I think my hours will be more focused. I also think that as she grows, I'm gonna wanna show, like,

No way moment. And they're, like, Dude, it's first of all, it's just not about you right now. You need to learn. That's actually rule number one. Rule number two. Yes. All of these things that you don't understand, they're real, and they happen. Yeah. So that was crazy. And then maybe I'll say the last thing. I don't know how this has impacted your career, but let's talk about money for a minute. I have a feeling this is gonna significantly better in my career because I think my hours will be more focused. I also think that as she grows, I'm gonna wanna show, like,

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consistency.

consistency.

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So like a normal nine to five or,

So like a normal nine to five or,

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it it just had to make an example of, like, look, I I I'm here to provide. I commit to what I say. I I show up and and get through things.

it it just had to make an example of, like, look, I I I'm here to provide. I commit to what I say. I I show up and and get through things.

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I think it's gonna actually make me more successful even if I have less hours. Do you think that's gonna be true? Think it's true because you're telling yourself that. Yeah. Like, you know, my my grand theory of life is that our brain is basically a giant labeling machine.

I think it's gonna actually make me more successful even if I have less hours. Do you think that's gonna be true? Think it's true because you're telling yourself that. Yeah. Like, you know, my my grand theory of life is that our brain is basically a giant labeling machine.

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And that the my view of the world is that these it's like a box that's coming on the conveyor belt. That's just things happening in life. And then our brain puts the label on it and says, this means this. Oh, this guy drove in front of me. This means he's an asshole and he cut me off verse or, like,

And that the my view of the world is that these it's like a box that's coming on the conveyor belt. That's just things happening in life. And then our brain puts the label on it and says, this means this. Oh, this guy drove in front of me. This means he's an asshole and he cut me off verse or, like,

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this means, like, something else completely. I could just completely make up a different definition. I could be focused on the plants instead of that. And so our brain is this labeling machine, and it's that's what defines everything that happens in our life. And I think that for you,

this means, like, something else completely. I could just completely make up a different definition. I could be focused on the plants instead of that. And so our brain is this labeling machine, and it's that's what defines everything that happens in our life. And I think that for you,

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you're gonna

you're gonna

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you're saying,

you're saying,

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you know what this baby means in my life. It means that now I'm gonna be more mature. I'm gonna be wiser. I'm gonna be more focused. I'm gonna show her work ethic. I'm gonna wanna,

you know what this baby means in my life. It means that now I'm gonna be more mature. I'm gonna be wiser. I'm gonna be more focused. I'm gonna show her work ethic. I'm gonna wanna,

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you know, be less erratic. I'm gonna be actually, like,

you know, be less erratic. I'm gonna be actually, like,

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zen out or or sort of chill out and and be a stable rock type figure.

zen out or or sort of chill out and and be a stable rock type figure.

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So then you're gonna do exactly that. It's a self fulfilling thing. Right? Like,

So then you're gonna do exactly that. It's a self fulfilling thing. Right? Like,

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So, yeah, I do think it will be that for you. But I don't think it's because of the baby. I think that's because you're putting a really strong empowering meaning on the baby. You did this by we should talk about and I'm so sorry to hear about, Sid, your dog, but I read your blog post. So you said kind of a similar thing. Can you talk about that? Like, you basically said, like,

So, yeah, I do think it will be that for you. But I don't think it's because of the baby. I think that's because you're putting a really strong empowering meaning on the baby. You did this by we should talk about and I'm so sorry to hear about, Sid, your dog, but I read your blog post. So you said kind of a similar thing. Can you talk about that? Like, you basically said, like,

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you were kind of in the f boy mode.

you were kind of in the f boy mode.

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You get this dog.

You get this dog.

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So if you follow me on social media, you know, I've got this huge dog or I had this huge dog. I've had him for fifteen years almost. And he was my best friend. I love this animal.

So if you follow me on social media, you know, I've got this huge dog or I had this huge dog. I've had him for fifteen years almost. And he was my best friend. I love this animal.

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And basically,

And basically,

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when he was three year maybe or two years old, I got a DUI, and I spent twenty four hours in jail and I came home, and he went to the bathroom in the house I was I was so upset. I'm like, oh my god. This dog didn't know if I was gonna come home. What if I was there for three days? This was miserable.

when he was three year maybe or two years old, I got a DUI, and I spent twenty four hours in jail and I came home, and he went to the bathroom in the house I was I was so upset. I'm like, oh my god. This dog didn't know if I was gonna come home. What if I was there for three days? This was miserable.

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I gotta get my shit together.

I gotta get my shit together.

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I have a responsibility.

I have a responsibility.

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And so that was a turning point was I was like, I I have this responsibility. I have to take care of him. And it changed my life.

And so that was a turning point was I was like, I I have this responsibility. I have to take care of him. And it changed my life.

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And I remember thinking like,

And I remember thinking like,

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it felt good. It felt good to care about something. And

it felt good. It felt good to care about something. And

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Some people I guess I could say this now that I have kids, but people were insulted, when I would say I was like, yeah, having a dog, it's it's kinda like five percent of having a kid. And people were like, what? How dare you? And I'm like, now that I have a kid, I'm like, yeah, it was, like, five percent where, like, I I had a thing that I cared for. It was animals

Some people I guess I could say this now that I have kids, but people were insulted, when I would say I was like, yeah, having a dog, it's it's kinda like five percent of having a kid. And people were like, what? How dare you? And I'm like, now that I have a kid, I'm like, yeah, it was, like, five percent where, like, I I had a thing that I cared for. It was animals

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obviously inherently probably less valuable, but also,

obviously inherently probably less valuable, but also,

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like, less work. But I had this, like, inherent

like, less work. But I had this, like, inherent

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eye care for you, and I wanna I wanna make sure you have what you need. And that definitely,

eye care for you, and I wanna I wanna make sure you have what you need. And that definitely,

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changed me for the better, leading up to the baby being born. I knew Sid was gonna die soon. I even wrote, like, a fake obituary for him before he died so I can, like, enjoy my last six months with him.

changed me for the better, leading up to the baby being born. I knew Sid was gonna die soon. I even wrote, like, a fake obituary for him before he died so I can, like, enjoy my last six months with him.

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And we my wife and I were like,

And we my wife and I were like,

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we gotta get them to

we gotta get them to

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we gotta get them to the birth. We gotta do this. I and we need to just take this one picture. And we need to just, to complete the picture or I needed to of, like, going from, like, moron idiot, fuck boy to

we gotta get them to the birth. We gotta do this. I and we need to just take this one picture. And we need to just, to complete the picture or I needed to of, like, going from, like, moron idiot, fuck boy to

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like, a family man, and I've got my act together. I was like, I needed to see anything. You said,

like, a family man, and I've got my act together. I was like, I needed to see anything. You said,

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dogs for guys in their early twenties are like, a special thing. Specifically,

dogs for guys in their early twenties are like, a special thing. Specifically,

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what does you mean? Yeah. Dog in your early twenties because when men in the early twenties, when you're twenty one, you have you're no longer a kid, so you have more responsibility

what does you mean? Yeah. Dog in your early twenties because when men in the early twenties, when you're twenty one, you have you're no longer a kid, so you have more responsibility

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and you are,

and you are,

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you don't get a pass for doing dumb things, you're still a dumb person.

you don't get a pass for doing dumb things, you're still a dumb person.

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And oftentimes that means

And oftentimes that means

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that you're gonna grow. And when you grow, the friends that you have at twenty one, a lot of times aren't the same friends that you have at thirty one. But your dog in your twenties is the only one that has been there the whole time and they've been giving you loyalty and love unconditionally.

that you're gonna grow. And when you grow, the friends that you have at twenty one, a lot of times aren't the same friends that you have at thirty one. But your dog in your twenties is the only one that has been there the whole time and they've been giving you loyalty and love unconditionally.

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And so a man and and their dog in the twenties, that's a very special dog. They see the transformation.

And so a man and and their dog in the twenties, that's a very special dog. They see the transformation.

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They see the transformation, and they're the only ones. I mean, not all the people who you're friends with at twenty one, they knew college, Sean. Right. And you're still friends with them, maybe, but they don't know what you've been doing lately. And then your wife and your friends now, they don't know what you were. And there's really only one one being. Every day in your house. And like you said, unconditionally, they don't judge you either, but they, you know,

They see the transformation, and they're the only ones. I mean, not all the people who you're friends with at twenty one, they knew college, Sean. Right. And you're still friends with them, maybe, but they don't know what you've been doing lately. And then your wife and your friends now, they don't know what you were. And there's really only one one being. Every day in your house. And like you said, unconditionally, they don't judge you either, but they, you know,

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it's a powerful thing. The point of my blog post was, like, I never truly cared about legacy

it's a powerful thing. The point of my blog post was, like, I never truly cared about legacy

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because I'm, like, the feeling that I'm gonna have when I die is the feeling that I had before I was born, which is nothing. So why do I care?

because I'm, like, the feeling that I'm gonna have when I die is the feeling that I had before I was born, which is nothing. So why do I care?

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And this dog died. My my buddy said, died. And I remember thinking, like, I did so much to please you, and that impacted me, which maybe I've had a little bit of impact on some other people, and it was really because of my love for you. And and so it changed my perspective on legacy. And what's crazy is we were due, like, right about now,

And this dog died. My my buddy said, died. And I remember thinking, like, I did so much to please you, and that impacted me, which maybe I've had a little bit of impact on some other people, and it was really because of my love for you. And and so it changed my perspective on legacy. And what's crazy is we were due, like, right about now,

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November one, and he died in October. So we had him for ten days after birth. And I was, like, I kinda, like, it was a little spiritual where I'm, like, oh my god. Like, the world worked. Like, how on how like, whatever fifteen years is, however many days that is, that many days plus ten days is what I got. Right. And so that was like a very meaningful impact for me. I posted that blog post What's crazy to me is I felt like a pussy sharing that because I used to make fun of people who, like, cared about their dogs as much. And then I'm like, oh, I've totally become that. If you ever I mean, it might be too raw for you at the moment, but there's a great,

November one, and he died in October. So we had him for ten days after birth. And I was, like, I kinda, like, it was a little spiritual where I'm, like, oh my god. Like, the world worked. Like, how on how like, whatever fifteen years is, however many days that is, that many days plus ten days is what I got. Right. And so that was like a very meaningful impact for me. I posted that blog post What's crazy to me is I felt like a pussy sharing that because I used to make fun of people who, like, cared about their dogs as much. And then I'm like, oh, I've totally become that. If you ever I mean, it might be too raw for you at the moment, but there's a great,

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there's a guy who runs or, like, is the main host of sports center, Scott Vanpelt,

there's a guy who runs or, like, is the main host of sports center, Scott Vanpelt,

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And he did a tribute to his dog, when his dog passed on air on sports center for, like, three minutes. He just talked.

And he did a tribute to his dog, when his dog passed on air on sports center for, like, three minutes. He just talked.

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And,

And,

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you know,

you know,

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definitely gonna cry, you know, when you watch that. And, you know, that feeling is,

definitely gonna cry, you know, when you watch that. And, you know, that feeling is,

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I don't know anybody who has a dog that doesn't love their dog. I don't know who loves who loves their dog that that wouldn't feel that way. So, you know, it is completely

I don't know anybody who has a dog that doesn't love their dog. I don't know who loves who loves their dog that that wouldn't feel that way. So, you know, it is completely

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reasonable.

reasonable.

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It was the first time I've cried in probably thirteen years. And I was like, oh my god. Like, so it was pretty wild.

It was the first time I've cried in probably thirteen years. And I was like, oh my god. Like, so it was pretty wild.

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But I'm happy it worked out. And I have one bone to pick with you.

But I'm happy it worked out. And I have one bone to pick with you.

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I wish you would have told me to have a kid sooner. I wish you would have told me because you're you're I've always been, like, a cool guy where you, like, you withhold a little bit of emotion where you don't wanna express how wonderful it is. And, well, maybe you just don't feel that way, but I don't think that's true. But

I wish you would have told me to have a kid sooner. I wish you would have told me because you're you're I've always been, like, a cool guy where you, like, you withhold a little bit of emotion where you don't wanna express how wonderful it is. And, well, maybe you just don't feel that way, but I don't think that's true. But

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like, within days of having her, I remember thinking, there was no reason for me not to do this four years sooner

like, within days of having her, I remember thinking, there was no reason for me not to do this four years sooner

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because then I will have four years left because if I die at the same age, I would have had four additional years. I wish you would have told me to do it sooner.

because then I will have four years left because if I die at the same age, I would have had four additional years. I wish you would have told me to do it sooner.

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I wish that that's one of my only regret. Not a lot of people talk about that. They always say, oh, wait. You've got time. Man, it's pretty awesome. I wish I would have done it sooner. Yeah. I I think,

I wish that that's one of my only regret. Not a lot of people talk about that. They always say, oh, wait. You've got time. Man, it's pretty awesome. I wish I would have done it sooner. Yeah. I I think,

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My I I guess my personal advice would still be the same. So, kids are amazing. Awesome.

My I I guess my personal advice would still be the same. So, kids are amazing. Awesome.

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And so, like, so much fun.

And so, like, so much fun.

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Like, you know, the fun gets baked into your day. You don't have to, like, go do anything. Like, what you don't realize when you're in your, like, twenties or thirties or single or whatever is, like,

Like, you know, the fun gets baked into your day. You don't have to, like, go do anything. Like, what you don't realize when you're in your, like, twenties or thirties or single or whatever is, like,

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to you have to basically chase fun. Just like, oh, I'm going to fucking Coachella. And then I'm going to this thing. I'm gonna go hang out over here, and then we're gonna I'm gonna learn this new skill and I'm gonna do all these things. If you look at people with kids and you're like,

to you have to basically chase fun. Just like, oh, I'm going to fucking Coachella. And then I'm going to this thing. I'm gonna go hang out over here, and then we're gonna I'm gonna learn this new skill and I'm gonna do all these things. If you look at people with kids and you're like,

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suckers trapped in jail with their kids. And what I don't realize is you basically took all of the dope life experiences.

suckers trapped in jail with their kids. And what I don't realize is you basically took all of the dope life experiences.

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You simplified them and you get to just have them in your house all the time. And, like, that's actually what's happening to those people you think are trapped with their kids.

You simplified them and you get to just have them in your house all the time. And, like, that's actually what's happening to those people you think are trapped with their kids.

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But, like, the people in their kids, you know, you don't wanna be that obnoxious condescending person with kids. It's just like, Like, my brother, last of us once, and he's, like, he he's, like, you know, the only real person that, like, we could talk real with each other. And he's, like,

But, like, the people in their kids, you know, you don't wanna be that obnoxious condescending person with kids. It's just like, Like, my brother, last of us once, and he's, like, he he's, like, you know, the only real person that, like, we could talk real with each other. And he's, like,

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your life doesn't have any meaning till you have kids. He's like, that's just how I feel. Okay? He's like, I know I'm not supposed to say that. I know that's I'm gonna gatekeep. I'm gonna gatekeep from now when people say something like, oh, you don't know any better. Wait till you have kids. You don't know what to do. And he said that to me, but he was like, we're talking about somebody else. He's like, they just don't realize and they're gonna keep talking themselves into how, you know, blow them, like, how their life is so awesome

your life doesn't have any meaning till you have kids. He's like, that's just how I feel. Okay? He's like, I know I'm not supposed to say that. I know that's I'm gonna gatekeep. I'm gonna gatekeep from now when people say something like, oh, you don't know any better. Wait till you have kids. You don't know what to do. And he said that to me, but he was like, we're talking about somebody else. He's like, they just don't realize and they're gonna keep talking themselves into how, you know, blow them, like, how their life is so awesome

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without kids. He's like, but my light, he's he's typing for himself. He's like, you know, I didn't have any

without kids. He's like, but my light, he's he's typing for himself. He's like, you know, I didn't have any

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Meaning until this. And now I have, you know, you know, my cup is full.

Meaning until this. And now I have, you know, you know, my cup is full.

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The other thing I would say though is that the four years you're talking about, like, There it is a one way door to use the Jeff Bezos decision making

The other thing I would say though is that the four years you're talking about, like, There it is a one way door to use the Jeff Bezos decision making

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framework. Once you have the kid, you can't unhave the kid really. And so you you're gonna, like,

framework. Once you have the kid, you can't unhave the kid really. And so you you're gonna, like,

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your freedoms have changed fundamentally from this point forward.

your freedoms have changed fundamentally from this point forward.

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And so

And so

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I think that the freedoms you have, like, you know, that age twenty six to thirty one or whatever

I think that the freedoms you have, like, you know, that age twenty six to thirty one or whatever

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are pretty valuable. You should have them while you're there.

are pretty valuable. You should have them while you're there.

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And then go walk through that one way door and, like, you know, now you have a different set of joys, but you do have a different set of a different degree of freedom.

And then go walk through that one way door and, like, you know, now you have a different set of joys, but you do have a different set of a different degree of freedom.

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I think that's much more important than, like, you, you know, worrying about these, like, kind of, my age is seventy six to eighty. Know, I'm glad I had those four extra years. I don't think your I don't think life actually works like that. I think you it is good you had the freedom to do all the things you did and become the person you became, you know, it happened at the right time for you, I think. You settled down.

I think that's much more important than, like, you, you know, worrying about these, like, kind of, my age is seventy six to eighty. Know, I'm glad I had those four extra years. I don't think your I don't think life actually works like that. I think you it is good you had the freedom to do all the things you did and become the person you became, you know, it happened at the right time for you, I think. You settled down.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

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But it's been four years ago. What were you doing? You're living on sixth street and,

But it's been four years ago. What were you doing? You're living on sixth street and,

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It's San Francisco.

It's San Francisco.

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You're stressed out. I was learning the difference between meth crack and heroin and, like, different ways in which you put it in your body walking around so much. You're having a dair class without the dair officer in so much, San Francisco.

You're stressed out. I was learning the difference between meth crack and heroin and, like, different ways in which you put it in your body walking around so much. You're having a dair class without the dair officer in so much, San Francisco.

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And, you're stressed out building your company. You're making thirty seven thousand dollars a year. I don't think that was the right time to have the kid. I think my advice was good to to say wait. By the way, I know that you,

And, you're stressed out building your company. You're making thirty seven thousand dollars a year. I don't think that was the right time to have the kid. I think my advice was good to to say wait. By the way, I know that you,

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I I understand this perspective of why people don't do it. I totally get it.

I I understand this perspective of why people don't do it. I totally get it.

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A night nurse is a cheap code. Everyone keeps telling me so those who don't know, a night nurse, it's basically this lady who is in this other room with the baby, when the baby cries every three hours, she goes and wakes up mom and says, alright. Alright. Have it's time to feed. Alright. Cal. Like, my my wife was basically a cow for three months. And she's like, hey,

A night nurse is a cheap code. Everyone keeps telling me so those who don't know, a night nurse, it's basically this lady who is in this other room with the baby, when the baby cries every three hours, she goes and wakes up mom and says, alright. Alright. Have it's time to feed. Alright. Cal. Like, my my wife was basically a cow for three months. And she's like, hey,

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whip the boob out. You're you're you're good to go. And

whip the boob out. You're you're you're good to go. And

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I sleep in a separate room.

I sleep in a separate room.

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And my sleep has been awesome. Women, I I don't know if it's my wife, but I feel like a lot of women they go through the the waking up every three hours and they still have a pretty good day the next day. Maybe they're just running on adrenaline,

And my sleep has been awesome. Women, I I don't know if it's my wife, but I feel like a lot of women they go through the the waking up every three hours and they still have a pretty good day the next day. Maybe they're just running on adrenaline,

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but, for me,

but, for me,

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I cannot wake up every three hours and still be a functioning human being the next day. You need a night nurse too. I need a night nurse. I want someone to throttle me. I would love to swaddle. Dude,

I cannot wake up every three hours and still be a functioning human being the next day. You need a night nurse too. I need a night nurse. I want someone to throttle me. I would love to swaddle. Dude,

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I still sleep with my wife's pregnancy pillow because I'm like, this is incredible.

I still sleep with my wife's pregnancy pillow because I'm like, this is incredible.

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This is the level of comfort that was available to me.

This is the level of comfort that was available to me.

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Why is this only for pregnant women? Justice for non pregnant women?

Why is this only for pregnant women? Justice for non pregnant women?

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My knees haven't touched, didn't bed for, like, the last, nine months. Like, dude,

My knees haven't touched, didn't bed for, like, the last, nine months. Like, dude,

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the needs should not be touching. Did I send you that one pregnancy pillow, the Swedish one? Somebody sent this to me. And I was like,

the needs should not be touching. Did I send you that one pregnancy pillow, the Swedish one? Somebody sent this to me. And I was like,

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Swedish pregnancy pillow. Who did I can I just get one off Amazon? And they're like, brother?

Swedish pregnancy pillow. Who did I can I just get one off Amazon? And they're like, brother?

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Just shut up and trust me. And I did. I ordered this thing. It took, like, a week and a half to arrive.

Just shut up and trust me. And I did. I ordered this thing. It took, like, a week and a half to arrive.

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And boy has it arrived in my life, you know? Like, my daughter's four now. That's four years. I've been sleeping with this below.

And boy has it arrived in my life, you know? Like, my daughter's four now. That's four years. I've been sleeping with this below.

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I bought two. It's it's incredible.

I bought two. It's it's incredible.

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Hey. I've been wearing nipple guards when I go running. So, like, hey, I'm all about all the different, pregnancy stuff.

Hey. I've been wearing nipple guards when I go running. So, like, hey, I'm all about all the different, pregnancy stuff.

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But, yeah, it's been awesome.

But, yeah, it's been awesome.

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I'm gonna try and not be that guy. That posts all the stuff on social media, but I might be. You don't post your children. Do you? Well, I don't I don't even use Instagram So I don't I don't really But is it a rule that you don't do it? No. No. No. I just You just haven't gotten around to it. I don't like to

I'm gonna try and not be that guy. That posts all the stuff on social media, but I might be. You don't post your children. Do you? Well, I don't I don't even use Instagram So I don't I don't really But is it a rule that you don't do it? No. No. No. I just You just haven't gotten around to it. I don't like to

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pose

pose

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that type of stuff.

that type of stuff.

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I post, like, I'll tweet random thoughts or I'll do a podcast. That's like what I I like to put thoughts out there, not necessarily like life pictures.

I post, like, I'll tweet random thoughts or I'll do a podcast. That's like what I I like to put thoughts out there, not necessarily like life pictures.

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Well,

Well,

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I'm gonna try also not to be that guy, but we'll see if, we'll see if I can keep up with that. Alright. Well, this is the, the catch up episode. We'll just go ahead and publish this even though it's totally different than a normal episode.

I'm gonna try also not to be that guy, but we'll see if, we'll see if I can keep up with that. Alright. Well, this is the, the catch up episode. We'll just go ahead and publish this even though it's totally different than a normal episode.

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It's us reconnecting rebonding

It's us reconnecting rebonding

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you know, we needed a little skin to scan after

you know, we needed a little skin to scan after

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horizontally. Yeah. Two weeks apart. Top, bro.

horizontally. Yeah. Two weeks apart. Top, bro.

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Me put my cheek to your chest, man. Just grab my cheeks.

Me put my cheek to your chest, man. Just grab my cheeks.

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Alright. That's the pod.

Alright. That's the pod.

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