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I got my drunk ideas. Should we do some drunk ideas? Yeah. Let's do it. Alright. So, again, to to frame this,

I got my drunk ideas. Should we do some drunk ideas? Yeah. Let's do it. Alright. So, again, to to frame this,

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these are ideas that I had that I don't think are good, but I still wanna say them. So I call it junk ideas, even though I didn't them while I was drunk. I was stone cold sober, but that's my cover story. Alright. So drunk idea number one

these are ideas that I had that I don't think are good, but I still wanna say them. So I call it junk ideas, even though I didn't them while I was drunk. I was stone cold sober, but that's my cover story. Alright. So drunk idea number one

00:25

is called and you got every you gotta tell me I think I did this before, and by the way, one gem came out of it, which was my Lucky Water brand,

is called and you got every you gotta tell me I think I did this before, and by the way, one gem came out of it, which was my Lucky Water brand,

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that I I do intend to create. So, you know, some gems do come out this. So, Ben, you're a participant in this one. I need you both to give me your your idea, your reaction. What's much of the scale be on the reaction? Is it like, you know,

that I I do intend to create. So, you know, some gems do come out this. So, Ben, you're a participant in this one. I need you both to give me your your idea, your reaction. What's much of the scale be on the reaction? Is it like, you know,

00:46

you know,

you know,

00:47

on a scale of sober to piss drunk or, like, on a scale of, like, you know, horrible to good idea. How do you wanna rate these? Let's do one to ten. One to ten. Alright. First idea is called very long distance girlfriend. Okay. So I had this idea because

on a scale of sober to piss drunk or, like, on a scale of, like, you know, horrible to good idea. How do you wanna rate these? Let's do one to ten. One to ten. Alright. First idea is called very long distance girlfriend. Okay. So I had this idea because

01:03

realized, like, I'm sitting there and me and my wife, we like to watch all these dating shows. Right? So we watch a lot of his blind, we watch the bachelor,

realized, like, I'm sitting there and me and my wife, we like to watch all these dating shows. Right? So we watch a lot of his blind, we watch the bachelor,

01:10

and you watch these shows, and it's sort of like It's like the honeymoon period. And I I, like, I would say most people's homes are like ours. It's like,

and you watch these shows, and it's sort of like It's like the honeymoon period. And I I, like, I would say most people's homes are like ours. It's like,

01:17

the scene is this. On screen, you see, like, two usually beautiful people living some kind of fairy tale date.

the scene is this. On screen, you see, like, two usually beautiful people living some kind of fairy tale date.

01:25

And then, like, one person's kind of like, you know, there's some drama. One person's being dramatic or one person's unsure and the other person's really good or whatever.

And then, like, one person's kind of like, you know, there's some drama. One person's being dramatic or one person's unsure and the other person's really good or whatever.

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And then you and then if you if you zoomed out off the TV, you'd see a couch with usually a couple sitting, like, six feet apart from each other because they're so sick of each other. You know, there's like, you know, in their sweats, not dressed up with their, you know, double chin eating their popcorn and cheetos and being like pointing at the to be like, oh, she's not even that hot or, like, you know, he's, you know, he's such a jerk and it's, like, judging these relationships. Right? But, like, there's something to this of why we Right? We like seeing these other relationships. But I also think It's like when we do that, we we do that with UFC, like, oh, he shouldn't have tapped out. Yeah. Dude, he's such a pussy.

And then you and then if you if you zoomed out off the TV, you'd see a couch with usually a couple sitting, like, six feet apart from each other because they're so sick of each other. You know, there's like, you know, in their sweats, not dressed up with their, you know, double chin eating their popcorn and cheetos and being like pointing at the to be like, oh, she's not even that hot or, like, you know, he's, you know, he's such a jerk and it's, like, judging these relationships. Right? But, like, there's something to this of why we Right? We like seeing these other relationships. But I also think It's like when we do that, we we do that with UFC, like, oh, he shouldn't have tapped out. Yeah. Dude, he's such a pussy.

02:09

He's still weak.

He's still weak.

02:10

He looks scared.

He looks scared.

02:12

Yeah. Dude, he's so scared. That's why I don't like him because he's scared. It's Yeah. It's that confident.

Yeah. Dude, he's so scared. That's why I don't like him because he's scared. It's Yeah. It's that confident.

02:17

Oh my god. There's a spider in my room. You know, like, so so, yeah, there's definitely like a judgy there's a fun in judging it. But I would also say

Oh my god. There's a spider in my room. You know, like, so so, yeah, there's definitely like a judgy there's a fun in judging it. But I would also say

02:24

there's a fun in the sort of fairy tale. Like, I think everybody, when you're watching these shows, you sort of put yourself in the shoes of either the person pursuing or the person being pursued

there's a fun in the sort of fairy tale. Like, I think everybody, when you're watching these shows, you sort of put yourself in the shoes of either the person pursuing or the person being pursued

02:33

know, you're the you're the damsel or you're the prince, whatever it is. So the the idea behind very long distance girlfriend is as follows.

know, you're the you're the damsel or you're the prince, whatever it is. So the the idea behind very long distance girlfriend is as follows.

02:40

It's a service or app think it's just a service. I think it's just a a text message. This is a phone number you put in your address book.

It's a service or app think it's just a service. I think it's just a a text message. This is a phone number you put in your address book.

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And we give you the perfect boyfriend or girlfriend.

And we give you the perfect boyfriend or girlfriend.

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You're never gonna meet with this person. It's not even the intention.

You're never gonna meet with this person. It's not even the intention.

02:53

It's just somebody who's gonna treat you

It's just somebody who's gonna treat you

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perfectly because they're paid to do it. And so So it's like prostitution. It's like a pro what's a prostitute? A prostitute is somebody who's paid to love to love you, right, to make love to you. But that's a lot. Not no. I don't wanna cross that line. That's a lot of work.

perfectly because they're paid to do it. And so So it's like prostitution. It's like a pro what's a prostitute? A prostitute is somebody who's paid to love to love you, right, to make love to you. But that's a lot. Not no. I don't wanna cross that line. That's a lot of work.

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So this is, like, you know how Tinder made dating easier because you don't have to, like, go date everybody, you just sort of swipe left and right easily on your phone. It kinda gave you this, like, flirting hit, but you didn't have to go out, put in a lot of effort. So here's what you would get if you if you sign up for very long long distance girlfriend. There's there's gonna be a person that pretends to be your girlfriend.

So this is, like, you know how Tinder made dating easier because you don't have to, like, go date everybody, you just sort of swipe left and right easily on your phone. It kinda gave you this, like, flirting hit, but you didn't have to go out, put in a lot of effort. So here's what you would get if you if you sign up for very long long distance girlfriend. There's there's gonna be a person that pretends to be your girlfriend.

03:28

They're gonna text you. They're gonna ask how you're doing. They're gonna be emotionally there for you. They're gonna text you maybe photos of themselves. They're gonna, like, say that they want you. You're gonna be like, oh my god. I'm I'm this person wants me. They're never gonna nag you. They're never gonna, get mad at you. They're never gonna get jealous. They're never gonna do any of the things that real human beings do when are the downsides of relationships. Only the upside, none of the downside. So for girls, you're gonna get prince charming on the other side. He's gonna be complimentary. He's gonna be thoughtful. He's gonna be there for you. And for for guys, you're gonna get sort of what you want as the perfect girlfriend. And we're just gonna hire call centers

They're gonna text you. They're gonna ask how you're doing. They're gonna be emotionally there for you. They're gonna text you maybe photos of themselves. They're gonna, like, say that they want you. You're gonna be like, oh my god. I'm I'm this person wants me. They're never gonna nag you. They're never gonna, get mad at you. They're never gonna get jealous. They're never gonna do any of the things that real human beings do when are the downsides of relationships. Only the upside, none of the downside. So for girls, you're gonna get prince charming on the other side. He's gonna be complimentary. He's gonna be thoughtful. He's gonna be there for you. And for for guys, you're gonna get sort of what you want as the perfect girlfriend. And we're just gonna hire call centers

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of of just dudes. And they're gonna behave as your very long distance boyfriend or girlfriend. Alright. Give me your give me your ratings. I'm gonna start with Sam.

of of just dudes. And they're gonna behave as your very long distance boyfriend or girlfriend. Alright. Give me your give me your ratings. I'm gonna start with Sam.

04:13

I give that a ten I I think that,

I give that a ten I I think that,

04:16

I I think that's great, to be honest. I think that surely that, like, if we went to adult friend finder com or something like that. Is that what they do? What is a dull friend finder? What is that, like, like, webcam? Or You're asking the wrong guy. I don't

I I think that's great, to be honest. I think that surely that, like, if we went to adult friend finder com or something like that. Is that what they do? What is a dull friend finder? What is that, like, like, webcam? Or You're asking the wrong guy. I don't

04:29

I have no idea.

I have no idea.

04:31

Yeah, I mean, this is brilliant. How many friends do you have who you've only met via texting? And you've, like, I've I've got, like, a bunch of friends who I've only ever texted.

Yeah, I mean, this is brilliant. How many friends do you have who you've only met via texting? And you've, like, I've I've got, like, a bunch of friends who I've only ever texted.

04:40

Yeah. Exactly. I have. Now most of my life is people I only text with. Maybe I knew them before. People that, like, I don't know, just through Twitter or through, you know, the podcast or through friends of friends. We get in a group chat together.

Yeah. Exactly. I have. Now most of my life is people I only text with. Maybe I knew them before. People that, like, I don't know, just through Twitter or through, you know, the podcast or through friends of friends. We get in a group chat together.

04:52

I know their personality. They're cool. Like, that's my actual friend even though I never met them.

I know their personality. They're cool. Like, that's my actual friend even though I never met them.

04:57

Or even heard their voice or talked to them, like, through voice. And in fact, I have no desire to really meet them. Like, I don't wanna go out of to go, like, say hang out with them. I'm getting all the benefits that I want out of just the text. Yeah. So anyway, I have a lot of friends like that, and I consider them to be really close friends. I I I I can't tell you how tall they are or what their voice sounds like, but I love them. And so because of that, I'm in. What do you think, Ben?

Or even heard their voice or talked to them, like, through voice. And in fact, I have no desire to really meet them. Like, I don't wanna go out of to go, like, say hang out with them. I'm getting all the benefits that I want out of just the text. Yeah. So anyway, I have a lot of friends like that, and I consider them to be really close friends. I I I I can't tell you how tall they are or what their voice sounds like, but I love them. And so because of that, I'm in. What do you think, Ben?

05:21

I give it a one. It sounds diabolical. It sounds A one zero or

I give it a one. It sounds diabolical. It sounds A one zero or

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oh, just a one zero.

oh, just a one zero.

05:30

Slow roll for a ten.

Slow roll for a ten.

05:32

There there's this genre of idea of Sean business idea that essentially is I went and watched an episode of Black Mirror and said, actually, that's a good idea.

There there's this genre of idea of Sean business idea that essentially is I went and watched an episode of Black Mirror and said, actually, that's a good idea.

05:42

And this is one of those. But that's a great idea, though. Are good ideas. Yeah. That's Yeah. That's like Where do you think they're getting their ideas? They go to the great idea pile, and then they take a great idea and they say, okay, let's put this to a logical extreme where it actually turns back.

And this is one of those. But that's a great idea, though. Are good ideas. Yeah. That's Yeah. That's like Where do you think they're getting their ideas? They go to the great idea pile, and then they take a great idea and they say, okay, let's put this to a logical extreme where it actually turns back.

05:57

Like, have you remember that remember that TV show in Disney called Smart Home, where, the the the it's like a smart home. It's like Alexa before Alexa. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great idea. Yeah. And

Like, have you remember that remember that TV show in Disney called Smart Home, where, the the the it's like a smart home. It's like Alexa before Alexa. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great idea. Yeah. And

06:08

the smart home ended up being the mom and the wife. So it's kinda is like what we're describing now. So I think the, like Yeah. I haven't watched her. I think her is something like this. It's like a voice assistant that he kinda falls in love with. I haven't seen that. But again, it's not even a fall in love.

the smart home ended up being the mom and the wife. So it's kinda is like what we're describing now. So I think the, like Yeah. I haven't watched her. I think her is something like this. It's like a voice assistant that he kinda falls in love with. I haven't seen that. But again, it's not even a fall in love.

06:23

It's just, dude, it's fun to get

It's just, dude, it's fun to get

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certain types of text messages.

certain types of text messages.

06:28

Right? It's fun to get funny text from a friend. It's fun to get something interesting texted to you. That's kinda what the hustle does. The hustle just sends me some interesting stuff every morning. The milk tries to do that. Here's some interesting crypto stuff, right, or your friend, but I'm not really your friend. I'm just sending you some cool stuff. You like getting that message.

Right? It's fun to get funny text from a friend. It's fun to get something interesting texted to you. That's kinda what the hustle does. The hustle just sends me some interesting stuff every morning. The milk tries to do that. Here's some interesting crypto stuff, right, or your friend, but I'm not really your friend. I'm just sending you some cool stuff. You like getting that message.

06:43

But that's for the work part of our What about the personal side? Ben, are you telling me you would I mean, I know what you're gonna say. You're gonna say no. But let me just put it out there anyways. You're telling me you would wanna be getting texts

But that's for the work part of our What about the personal side? Ben, are you telling me you would I mean, I know what you're gonna say. You're gonna say no. But let me just put it out there anyways. You're telling me you would wanna be getting texts

06:55

from a woman who's so into you and it's not cheating. You're never gonna do anything. It's not even a real person. Never gonna see him. Nothing like that, especially if you're single. Right? Like, I'm not talking about, like, we're all I think we're all Mary Ben. Right? So so it's not for us. This is for twenty five year old me, not thirty I don't know how old I am. Thirty four year old me.

from a woman who's so into you and it's not cheating. You're never gonna do anything. It's not even a real person. Never gonna see him. Nothing like that, especially if you're single. Right? Like, I'm not talking about, like, we're all I think we're all Mary Ben. Right? So so it's not for us. This is for twenty five year old me, not thirty I don't know how old I am. Thirty four year old me.

07:13

Yeah. I, obviously, we're not the target demographic, all of us, because we're all married. Yeah.

Yeah. I, obviously, we're not the target demographic, all of us, because we're all married. Yeah.

07:20

But

But

07:21

having said that, like, even if it was just, like, as a as a, a friend type of thing, I, like, I already have actual friends that I don't text back. The last thing I need is another thing that's literally just a person to not text back. I don't need another one of those in my life. But Fair enough. Fair enough. Maybe it's a bad idea. But no. No. No. No. As a as a business idea, of course, it's a good idea. Of course, it's like this has money making potential as a thing that is good for humans, you know,

having said that, like, even if it was just, like, as a as a, a friend type of thing, I, like, I already have actual friends that I don't text back. The last thing I need is another thing that's literally just a person to not text back. I don't need another one of those in my life. But Fair enough. Fair enough. Maybe it's a bad idea. But no. No. No. No. As a as a business idea, of course, it's a good idea. Of course, it's like this has money making potential as a thing that is good for humans, you know,

07:47

that's that's why I gave it a one. I'm not I'm not in the the good humans. Like, I had to be the conscience here. I had that one person had to be like, John, you know, this is okay. Okay. It's good. I you know, I'm the I'm the devil. You're the angel on the shoulders. We have to be there and yang. That's how it works. That's good.

that's that's why I gave it a one. I'm not I'm not in the the good humans. Like, I had to be the conscience here. I had that one person had to be like, John, you know, this is okay. Okay. It's good. I you know, I'm the I'm the devil. You're the angel on the shoulders. We have to be there and yang. That's how it works. That's good.

08:03

Yeah. You know, if you want good things, you should,

Yeah. You know, if you want good things, you should,

08:06

you know, go eat your vegetables, workouts,

you know, go eat your vegetables, workouts,

08:09

you know, wake up and pray, do all the things. Right? Like, that's cool. Don't invest in Russian companies. Yeah. Don't invest in Russian companies. Don't have the long distance girlfriend service for nineteen ninety nine a month. Don't,

you know, wake up and pray, do all the things. Right? Like, that's cool. Don't invest in Russian companies. Yeah. Don't invest in Russian companies. Don't have the long distance girlfriend service for nineteen ninety nine a month. Don't,

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you know,

you know,

08:22

don't use TikTok. Don't do any of the things do. Probably. Alright. Next idea.

don't use TikTok. Don't do any of the things do. Probably. Alright. Next idea.

08:28

It sounds related, but it's not. It's the huge beds company. You kinda alluded this earlier.

It sounds related, but it's not. It's the huge beds company. You kinda alluded this earlier.

08:34

I've been thinking about the luxuries of life that I care about.

I've been thinking about the luxuries of life that I care about.

08:39

We all we all know what I do, private chef,

We all we all know what I do, private chef,

08:42

personal trainer at my house.

personal trainer at my house.

08:44

I live like a king. The one thing I don't live like a king with is my bed is only

I live like a king. The one thing I don't live like a king with is my bed is only

08:50

king sized. But a true king would not have it a king sized bed. True kings have what's called a emperor sized bed. Have you ever heard of these? No.

king sized. But a true king would not have it a king sized bed. True kings have what's called a emperor sized bed. Have you ever heard of these? No.

09:00

So athletes have these. I saw these because there's a woman who has this business. It's already a great business. There's a woman who makes beds for NBA athletes.

So athletes have these. I saw these because there's a woman who has this business. It's already a great business. There's a woman who makes beds for NBA athletes.

09:08

And so Shaq has a twenty four foot bed, I believe, of, like, twenty four foot, like, in diameter.

And so Shaq has a twenty four foot bed, I believe, of, like, twenty four foot, like, in diameter.

09:14

And,

And,

09:15

you know, a whole bunch of every players do this. They have twelve foot diameter beds, eighteen foot, things like that. The room, it's like it looks ridiculous, but the whole family can sleep on there and still have their space.

you know, a whole bunch of every players do this. They have twelve foot diameter beds, eighteen foot, things like that. The room, it's like it looks ridiculous, but the whole family can sleep on there and still have their space.

09:26

Like, you know, just to get to your spot on the bed, you kinda have to crawl there like a small child just to your pillow, like, because there was such a long runway.

Like, you know, just to get to your spot on the bed, you kinda have to crawl there like a small child just to your pillow, like, because there was such a long runway.

09:34

And so I've always saw these, and I thought these look super comfortable, and I've decided I want a very huge bed. And I realized know where to go buy it. So my idea is a DDC brand

And so I've always saw these, and I thought these look super comfortable, and I've decided I want a very huge bed. And I realized know where to go buy it. So my idea is a DDC brand

09:45

called

called

09:46

huge beds, named TBD. We need a we need a better No. No. No. Keep it. It's like it's like the it's like, the company big ass fans. Yeah. It should be big ass beds. Okay. That's the name. Big ass beds. Big ass beds.

huge beds, named TBD. We need a we need a better No. No. No. Keep it. It's like it's like the it's like, the company big ass fans. Yeah. It should be big ass beds. Okay. That's the name. Big ass beds. Big ass beds.

09:58

For bad ass people.

For bad ass people.

10:01

Marketing slogan included with my drunk ideas. Alright. So so big ass beds, And basically, it's just a DDC brand that sells you this. Right? Like, these are very expensive. So these these run for like twenty twenty thousand dollars on average. I think is like the cost of these, like, humongous oversized beds. And that's why athletes buy them because they're a NBA players are already very tall, plus they got a lot of money. So it's like the sweet spot for them. And this woman who they buy it from, it's just one woman, and she just sells it all through her Instagram, basically. It's like some player posts a picture of his bed tags the woman,

Marketing slogan included with my drunk ideas. Alright. So so big ass beds, And basically, it's just a DDC brand that sells you this. Right? Like, these are very expensive. So these these run for like twenty twenty thousand dollars on average. I think is like the cost of these, like, humongous oversized beds. And that's why athletes buy them because they're a NBA players are already very tall, plus they got a lot of money. So it's like the sweet spot for them. And this woman who they buy it from, it's just one woman, and she just sells it all through her Instagram, basically. It's like some player posts a picture of his bed tags the woman,

10:32

People go look at hers. She has, like, an Instagram full of huge beds. People go buy from her.

People go look at hers. She has, like, an Instagram full of huge beds. People go buy from her.

10:38

So I think that's just like a niche that somebody could go own big ass beds. And I think, you know, okay, athletes is one, but we need to find a new niche. We may need to go into a new sport or maybe maybe it's business nerds who are trying to optimize their sleep. It's like, you know, you make it some jumbo about this? Having a big bed is not gonna make you sleep better unless you're, like, eight feet tall.

So I think that's just like a niche that somebody could go own big ass beds. And I think, you know, okay, athletes is one, but we need to find a new niche. We may need to go into a new sport or maybe maybe it's business nerds who are trying to optimize their sleep. It's like, you know, you make it some jumbo about this? Having a big bed is not gonna make you sleep better unless you're, like, eight feet tall.

10:59

Have you tried it?

Have you tried it?

11:01

Well, I have you been in Maybe it's like a free range chicken. Maybe when you're not confined,

Well, I have you been in Maybe it's like a free range chicken. Maybe when you're not confined,

11:06

by this, you know, like, maybe you have anxiety all night because you might fall off the bed. Right? Maybe just being able to stretch out

by this, you know, like, maybe you have anxiety all night because you might fall off the bed. Right? Maybe just being able to stretch out

11:12

is nice.

is nice.

11:13

Right? Maybe maybe not being so cramped is nice. I don't know. Seems like there's some benefits.

Right? Maybe maybe not being so cramped is nice. I don't know. Seems like there's some benefits.

11:18

There definitely maybe is, but definitely probably probably isn't. I mean, haven't you been in in a cala haven't you been in a California,

There definitely maybe is, but definitely probably probably isn't. I mean, haven't you been in in a cala haven't you been in a California,

11:26

king sized bed before I have a California king sized bed. Yeah. You have a California

king sized bed before I have a California king sized bed. Yeah. You have a California

11:30

you have a California king in Santa Fe. A California king is, like, the same size as a king. It's just longer instead of wider. It's the same overall size. It's just longer.

you have a California king in Santa Fe. A California king is, like, the same size as a king. It's just longer instead of wider. It's the same overall size. It's just longer.

11:39

So it's not the same overall size, but yeah. No. No. No. It's the same size, but it's like less wide, more long. The other ones more wide less long? You have a California game. With, baby. That's a huge bed, if you ask me. That I think that's big. It's that not Is is it just you and your wife in the bed, or do your kids stay there sometimes? My kids stay there and my dog. So it's like, you know, we got a full house in the bed. I think that,

So it's not the same overall size, but yeah. No. No. No. It's the same size, but it's like less wide, more long. The other ones more wide less long? You have a California game. With, baby. That's a huge bed, if you ask me. That I think that's big. It's that not Is is it just you and your wife in the bed, or do your kids stay there sometimes? My kids stay there and my dog. So it's like, you know, we got a full house in the bed. I think that,

12:03

likely, there's another thing that should be addressed that makes it a bit bigger.

likely, there's another thing that should be addressed that makes it a bit bigger.

12:08

Yeah. Like, don't let it I would call it. I would create a how about we call it, how about we create a little kid bed company or dog bed? Yeah. Or we'll we'll call it a crib or we can like a dog bed business.

Yeah. Like, don't let it I would call it. I would create a how about we call it, how about we create a little kid bed company or dog bed? Yeah. Or we'll we'll call it a crib or we can like a dog bed business.

12:22

Also a good idea.

Also a good idea.

12:23

I think maybe those are the solutions to your

I think maybe those are the solutions to your

12:26

problem instead of making a twenty by twenty, a four hundred square foot bed.

problem instead of making a twenty by twenty, a four hundred square foot bed.

12:31

Ben, what do you got here? It seems like you might be on my side. Sam is so wrong on this. I

Ben, what do you got here? It seems like you might be on my side. Sam is so wrong on this. I

12:37

I have a king-size bed. It is a good size.

I have a king-size bed. It is a good size.

12:41

I don't What is good. Good enough for you? No. I don't wanna be anywhere near my wife when I sleep. I want to have to shout for here to hear me. Like, there's always, like, just some little toe poking me in the middle of the night. And if you could just offer me, I never have to worry about that a, b, you're right, Sam. It gonna actually give me better sleep? Probably not. Is it gonna be an amazing experience to just like crawl onto this massive

I don't What is good. Good enough for you? No. I don't wanna be anywhere near my wife when I sleep. I want to have to shout for here to hear me. Like, there's always, like, just some little toe poking me in the middle of the night. And if you could just offer me, I never have to worry about that a, b, you're right, Sam. It gonna actually give me better sleep? Probably not. Is it gonna be an amazing experience to just like crawl onto this massive

13:06

piece of luxury

piece of luxury

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that is twenty feet long? Yes. It sounds like an amazing experience, and I want it. I want to feel that. I'm so in. And you spend a third of your day on this bed. Right? You're spending eight hours on this bed.

that is twenty feet long? Yes. It sounds like an amazing experience, and I want it. I want to feel that. I'm so in. And you spend a third of your day on this bed. Right? You're spending eight hours on this bed.

13:17

Why not? This the that's just the second.

Why not? This the that's just the second.

13:20

The second that you said, like, a twenty foot wide bed, I just knew I wanted it. My heart knows that I want those pictures. When the picture, you're like, oh, this looks like lavish as fuck. Alright. So,

The second that you said, like, a twenty foot wide bed, I just knew I wanted it. My heart knows that I want those pictures. When the picture, you're like, oh, this looks like lavish as fuck. Alright. So,

13:30

do you guys one question? Do you guys sleep with a pillow in between your legs? Of course. I sleep with a maternity pillow. Same. So I I have a body I have a body pillow. And so I, like, basically, spoon the pillow because I need my knees to be. I I can't have my knees. That's just straight ergonomics. That's just like that's proven. That's not even like us being weird. That's us being science. This. So the reason I use my wife's pregnancy pillow is science. Do you do you really use use her. What does she I bought two. So I so I bought hers.

do you guys one question? Do you guys sleep with a pillow in between your legs? Of course. I sleep with a maternity pillow. Same. So I I have a body I have a body pillow. And so I, like, basically, spoon the pillow because I need my knees to be. I I can't have my knees. That's just straight ergonomics. That's just like that's proven. That's not even like us being weird. That's us being science. This. So the reason I use my wife's pregnancy pillow is science. Do you do you really use use her. What does she I bought two. So I so I bought hers.

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I bought her one because my buddy my buddy told me this. My buddy goes, congrats. You guys are pregnant. Fantastic. So happy for you. Hey, get your phone out and go to this website. You're gonna buy this Swedish pillow.

I bought her one because my buddy my buddy told me this. My buddy goes, congrats. You guys are pregnant. Fantastic. So happy for you. Hey, get your phone out and go to this website. You're gonna buy this Swedish pillow.

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It's two hundred dollars, but trust me, best pillow ever. And I was like, oh my god. Like, never been so intrigued by a sales pitch. Took out my phone, ordered it right there. I'll never forget where I was. I was in a Uber in Las Vegas when this happened. And I thought, alright. And it's it's like it says, like, five weeks to ship. I was like, oh my god. This must be fantastic if it's, like, such a shitty experience. And so, it lives. It's amazing.

It's two hundred dollars, but trust me, best pillow ever. And I was like, oh my god. Like, never been so intrigued by a sales pitch. Took out my phone, ordered it right there. I'll never forget where I was. I was in a Uber in Las Vegas when this happened. And I thought, alright. And it's it's like it says, like, five weeks to ship. I was like, oh my god. This must be fantastic if it's, like, such a shitty experience. And so, it lives. It's amazing.

14:35

My wife uses it. She's like, it's good. And I was like, oh, only good. He really built it up. Let me try it out. I try it. For a nap. So good. I ordered myself one, and now she never just use she never uses any of them. I use both of them, actually. And I it it's fantastic. What's it called?

My wife uses it. She's like, it's good. And I was like, oh, only good. He really built it up. Let me try it out. I try it. For a nap. So good. I ordered myself one, and now she never just use she never uses any of them. I use both of them, actually. And I it it's fantastic. What's it called?

14:51

I'll have to look it up. It's, it's, like, some Swedish name that I don't really know.

I'll have to look it up. It's, it's, like, some Swedish name that I don't really know.

14:56

Yeah. I'm a big fan of those. I'll I'll buy one. I I just had like a really long pillow that I just kind of spoon, but maybe I should buy one of these.

Yeah. I'm a big fan of those. I'll I'll buy one. I I just had like a really long pillow that I just kind of spoon, but maybe I should buy one of these.

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It is called, oh, here it is. B b hug me dot com. So the two letters, b b, then hug me dot com. B b, hug me.

It is called, oh, here it is. B b hug me dot com. So the two letters, b b, then hug me dot com. B b, hug me.

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And it's designed to scan the name That's not sweet of Scandinavian. And,

And it's designed to scan the name That's not sweet of Scandinavian. And,

15:16

just look at it. It just looks like it's gonna be good and then it is good. It's really it's really great. Really great pillow.

just look at it. It just looks like it's gonna be good and then it is good. It's really it's really great. Really great pillow.

15:22

Alright. I'm gonna buy one of these. Wow. This looks huge.

Alright. I'm gonna buy one of these. Wow. This looks huge.

15:26

Yeah. It's not that big. But it's, like, kinda, like, it's, like, got, like, beads inside or whatever. So sort of like forms to your body. It's great. Alright. I'm on board with this. I bet these guys crush it, by the way.

Yeah. It's not that big. But it's, like, kinda, like, it's, like, got, like, beads inside or whatever. So sort of like forms to your body. It's great. Alright. I'm on board with this. I bet these guys crush it, by the way.

15:36

Yeah. I can imagine. The thing's really I think it's pretty expensive. It's like two hundred dollars for one pillow, which is a great site. A lot. Alright. So here's my next drunk idea. I got two more for you.

Yeah. I can imagine. The thing's really I think it's pretty expensive. It's like two hundred dollars for one pillow, which is a great site. A lot. Alright. So here's my next drunk idea. I got two more for you.

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HOA Court.

HOA Court.

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Okay. So do you guys have an HOA where you live? No. I'm no.

Okay. So do you guys have an HOA where you live? No. I'm no.

15:53

One time, if I remember correctly, Sean, you had an HOA just for a duplex, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Me, me and our our other person, we had an HOA with an HOA fee. But we both, as soon as we bought the place, we were like, yo, we're not gonna put four hundred dollars into this every every day. Right? Like, and we're both disagreeing. We're we're not putting four hundred dollars a month into this. You have an HOA?

One time, if I remember correctly, Sean, you had an HOA just for a duplex, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Me, me and our our other person, we had an HOA with an HOA fee. But we both, as soon as we bought the place, we were like, yo, we're not gonna put four hundred dollars into this every every day. Right? Like, and we're both disagreeing. We're we're not putting four hundred dollars a month into this. You have an HOA?

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Yeah. And I kinda hate it.

Yeah. And I kinda hate it.

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So

So

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my HOA has been harassing me lately. I've been getting letters. So I rent. I rent my current place. And, live in this neighborhood,

my HOA has been harassing me lately. I've been getting letters. So I rent. I rent my current place. And, live in this neighborhood,

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and there's some Karen in this neighborhood that just hates me. And she's like, oh, I don't like that you, you know, leave the trap bends out a little, you know, an extra day. I don't like that you work out on the, like, treat in the driveway. Like, you no exercise. No exercise equipment is allowed. I'm like, what? Is that are you exaggerating really? No. No. There's there's three complaints. There's that. There's that. And then there's another one which is,

and there's some Karen in this neighborhood that just hates me. And she's like, oh, I don't like that you, you know, leave the trap bends out a little, you know, an extra day. I don't like that you work out on the, like, treat in the driveway. Like, you no exercise. No exercise equipment is allowed. I'm like, what? Is that are you exaggerating really? No. No. There's there's three complaints. There's that. There's that. And then there's another one which is,

16:47

we get like water delivered, like, you know, like, the kinda like a a water dispenser. So you get these jugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Five gallon jugs. And so they're like kind of like they're like the guy delivers it to our door, but he tucks it behind this pillar. So if you're our house, you can't even see it. You'd have to, like, walk up to our, like, walk halfway up our thing to go see the thing. And so somebody just keeps complaining I landlord's like, dude, what's going on? Is it look and he lives in another state? So he's like, what is this? Like, can you just are you like fucking up things? I'm like, no. I don't do anything wrong. Okay. The trash, I do leave out a little bit.

we get like water delivered, like, you know, like, the kinda like a a water dispenser. So you get these jugs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Five gallon jugs. And so they're like kind of like they're like the guy delivers it to our door, but he tucks it behind this pillar. So if you're our house, you can't even see it. You'd have to, like, walk up to our, like, walk halfway up our thing to go see the thing. And so somebody just keeps complaining I landlord's like, dude, what's going on? Is it look and he lives in another state? So he's like, what is this? Like, can you just are you like fucking up things? I'm like, no. I don't do anything wrong. Okay. The trash, I do leave out a little bit.

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But, you know, besides that, it's not a big deal. Like, when you're working out the street, is it, like, just you and your trainer? And what do you do to throw in a medicine or something. No. We're doing lunges. It's like, dude, I I can lunge in the street. There's nothing. Or, like, we have a battle rope that we'll put on a, you know, art, but that's that's my driveway. Dude, I could do what I want in my driveway.

But, you know, besides that, it's not a big deal. Like, when you're working out the street, is it, like, just you and your trainer? And what do you do to throw in a medicine or something. No. We're doing lunges. It's like, dude, I I can lunge in the street. There's nothing. Or, like, we have a battle rope that we'll put on a, you know, art, but that's that's my driveway. Dude, I could do what I want in my driveway.

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And so my neighborhood's, like, mostly really old people that, like, don't really do do much. So, you know, I get it. But I'm not disruptive. Anyway, so so this HOA thing, and so I first was like,

And so my neighborhood's, like, mostly really old people that, like, don't really do do much. So, you know, I get it. But I'm not disruptive. Anyway, so so this HOA thing, and so I first was like,

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I was like, okay, I have two choices. I can either just quietly resolve the issues just listen, just move the trash cans in, put the battle rope inside the garage, only move it out when I want, and, water jugs. Like, I guess I could pull them inside the door kinda takes up space, but, you know, no no harm done. No. You cannot do this. No. No. No. No. Number one is not happening. Right. Right. This is war. And so I went to war. So I was like, you know what?

I was like, okay, I have two choices. I can either just quietly resolve the issues just listen, just move the trash cans in, put the battle rope inside the garage, only move it out when I want, and, water jugs. Like, I guess I could pull them inside the door kinda takes up space, but, you know, no no harm done. No. You cannot do this. No. No. No. No. Number one is not happening. Right. Right. This is war. And so I went to war. So I was like, you know what?

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I'm gonna waste my time and energy fighting this HOA?

I'm gonna waste my time and energy fighting this HOA?

18:14

Who is this HOA after all? I demanded names.

Who is this HOA after all? I demanded names.

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I demanded to speak to somebody. I said they can call me direct next time they have a problem. I said, here's my number. I put it out there. I started to, I said, I started to go take photos of other houses. I said, I'd like to file some complaints myself. Oh, what is this children swing at the front yard? This person has violation.

I demanded to speak to somebody. I said they can call me direct next time they have a problem. I said, here's my number. I put it out there. I started to, I said, I started to go take photos of other houses. I said, I'd like to file some complaints myself. Oh, what is this children swing at the front yard? This person has violation.

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Why is this person's garbage cans outside violation?

Why is this person's garbage cans outside violation?

18:36

Why is this person riding their bicycle exercise equipment on street violation. And so I started fighting back. I started saying, is it because I'm the only brown guy in the neighborhood? Of course. I was I was waiting for the race that you to do that. You had to do it. I can only wonder what's so different because again, I see violations all around me now. And so I'm I am base but there's no my my complaints are falling on deaf ears, and I'm wasting a bunch of time. I need HOA Court. It's a judge Judy like show.

Why is this person riding their bicycle exercise equipment on street violation. And so I started fighting back. I started saying, is it because I'm the only brown guy in the neighborhood? Of course. I was I was waiting for the race that you to do that. You had to do it. I can only wonder what's so different because again, I see violations all around me now. And so I'm I am base but there's no my my complaints are falling on deaf ears, and I'm wasting a bunch of time. I need HOA Court. It's a judge Judy like show.

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Streamed on to Netflix and or YouTube

Streamed on to Netflix and or YouTube

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where I can go present my case and it's a place for petty people to do their thing. And that that's my pitch. Is it is actually a show. It's a TV show, HOA Court.

where I can go present my case and it's a place for petty people to do their thing. And that that's my pitch. Is it is actually a show. It's a TV show, HOA Court.

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Or petty Court? Petty yeah. Maybe petty Court. Maybe petty is is the right way to do it. I think that's beautiful. But isn't this do HOA people not have, what's that called? Where, before you go to court, you can hire

Or petty Court? Petty yeah. Maybe petty Court. Maybe petty is is the right way to do it. I think that's beautiful. But isn't this do HOA people not have, what's that called? Where, before you go to court, you can hire

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arbitration.

arbitration.

19:32

Mediation. Yeah.

Mediation. Yeah.

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Is there what what do you do with HOA? How do you know who wins?

Is there what what do you do with HOA? How do you know who wins?

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You can't win. That's the problem. HOA is this like, you know, ambiguous force that just controls you even though you you, you know, you pay your hard earned American money

You can't win. That's the problem. HOA is this like, you know, ambiguous force that just controls you even though you you, you know, you pay your hard earned American money

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to, to to live in this place, to buy this land, to live free, but the freedom is not there. And that's why we need Penny Court bring back our freedoms

to, to to live in this place, to buy this land, to live free, but the freedom is not there. And that's why we need Penny Court bring back our freedoms

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and to put put these petty people back in their place. Do

and to put put these petty people back in their place. Do

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do you,

do you,

20:02

Like, it do do you just, like, reply all to an email?

Like, it do do you just, like, reply all to an email?

20:05

Well, no. It's, like, they they they use these agents like cowards. There's, like, a there's, like, random HOA e email address with, like, one person behind it. It's like, no. Who's complained? Is the majority of the neighborhood complaining?

Well, no. It's, like, they they they use these agents like cowards. There's, like, a there's, like, random HOA e email address with, like, one person behind it. It's like, no. Who's complained? Is the majority of the neighborhood complaining?

20:17

Maybe it's a democracy. Maybe we need fifty one percent complaints for me to change the way I do things. Why does one person get to change my way of living That's it sounds a little crazy to me. So I just feel like there's no justice and then when there's no justice, I can't sleep. And that's what I do. But I I wanna dig deeper on this because I actually think that it's totally not worth your time to fight this. This is this is a fight. This fight is fight. Oh, it's certainly not worth my time. No. It is. Definitely. These fights are worth are worth this is what living is for. I love doing this stuff. I I love fighting with neighbors like, trying to win and, like, rub their face in it, like a dog who pees inside. I love this. And so is there a way I don't believe that's considered the best practice anymore the way, for dogs, for dog training.

Maybe it's a democracy. Maybe we need fifty one percent complaints for me to change the way I do things. Why does one person get to change my way of living That's it sounds a little crazy to me. So I just feel like there's no justice and then when there's no justice, I can't sleep. And that's what I do. But I I wanna dig deeper on this because I actually think that it's totally not worth your time to fight this. This is this is a fight. This fight is fight. Oh, it's certainly not worth my time. No. It is. Definitely. These fights are worth are worth this is what living is for. I love doing this stuff. I I love fighting with neighbors like, trying to win and, like, rub their face in it, like a dog who pees inside. I love this. And so is there a way I don't believe that's considered the best practice anymore the way, for dogs, for dog training.

20:58

I can deal with HOA. I don't want Peter coming after us.

I can deal with HOA. I don't want Peter coming after us.

21:02

Is there

Is there

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is there a way that you can set a trap and figure out who it is.

is there a way that you can set a trap and figure out who it is.

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I don't know how I would do that.

I don't know how I would do that.

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Oh, I know.

Oh, I know.

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I put a unique letter under the doorstep of everybody in the neighborhood. I say, listen.

I put a unique letter under the doorstep of everybody in the neighborhood. I say, listen.

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I heard about the complaint, and I understand.

I heard about the complaint, and I understand.

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In fact,

In fact,

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I'm sorry that I did what I did.

I'm sorry that I did what I did.

21:27

You know, I would just love to make it up to you. What's your favorite flavor? Chocolate or vanilla. I'll send you a treat. Because you were right and I was wrong, and I just need you to know that you were so right with your HOA complaint.

You know, I would just love to make it up to you. What's your favorite flavor? Chocolate or vanilla. I'll send you a treat. Because you were right and I was wrong, and I just need you to know that you were so right with your HOA complaint.

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So just shoot me your, hey, just text me your favorite flavor.

So just shoot me your, hey, just text me your favorite flavor.

21:44

Honeypot.

Honeypot.

21:45

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

21:46

That's actually pretty brilliant. And you could do one of two things. You could either say this person's a flavor. This person, it's a what size t shirt you are, or you could just get a bunch of different Google numbers

That's actually pretty brilliant. And you could do one of two things. You could either say this person's a flavor. This person, it's a what size t shirt you are, or you could just get a bunch of different Google numbers

21:57

and see which one, like, you know Even better. Google, I say, hey, have you guys seen this asshole who lives over here? Guy keeps putting his free he keeps doing lunges in the street. Am I right? Like, vial violence in our neighborhood.

and see which one, like, you know Even better. Google, I say, hey, have you guys seen this asshole who lives over here? Guy keeps putting his free he keeps doing lunges in the street. Am I right? Like, vial violence in our neighborhood.

22:11

I think we should escalate this. He's not listening.

I think we should escalate this. He's not listening.

22:16

I believe it was you who made the complaint, but maybe I have that wrong.

I believe it was you who made the complaint, but maybe I have that wrong.

22:19

It was you, I'd like to discuss steps of how we might escalate this issue to make sure that jerk goes down. Keep

It was you, I'd like to discuss steps of how we might escalate this issue to make sure that jerk goes down. Keep

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bring him in. Bring him close.

bring him in. Bring him close.

22:29

Before I put them put them away.

Before I put them put them away.

22:31

I I I would love for you to do this. How many people live in the neighborhood do you think?

I I I would love for you to do this. How many people live in the neighborhood do you think?

22:36

How many people have carbon HOA?

How many people have carbon HOA?

22:38

No. It's a neighborhood. It's everybody's defaulted in. It's probably, I don't know, like, a hundred, maybe sixty houses, a hundred houses, something like that. It's a lot a lot of time and energy. You don't have to, like, shut down one of my businesses just to do this. You don't think you know who's doing this? I have no idea.

No. It's a neighborhood. It's everybody's defaulted in. It's probably, I don't know, like, a hundred, maybe sixty houses, a hundred houses, something like that. It's a lot a lot of time and energy. You don't have to, like, shut down one of my businesses just to do this. You don't think you know who's doing this? I have no idea.

22:53

Really? It hurts me because I know there's somebody who walks by smile at me while I'm working out in my garage. I just work out in my garage with the with the door open. Just have some air. Right? Like, it's no no big deal. I'm allowed to do that in my home gym. You can't change your behavior. You have to continue doing it. Well, I've already bent, but, you know, I've I've brought the water bottles inside, and I moved the trash hands. But You should buy a law chairs and put them in your front lawn and just hang out there without a shirt

Really? It hurts me because I know there's somebody who walks by smile at me while I'm working out in my garage. I just work out in my garage with the with the door open. Just have some air. Right? Like, it's no no big deal. I'm allowed to do that in my home gym. You can't change your behavior. You have to continue doing it. Well, I've already bent, but, you know, I've I've brought the water bottles inside, and I moved the trash hands. But You should buy a law chairs and put them in your front lawn and just hang out there without a shirt

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consistently.

consistently.

23:18

I think that's what the move has to be.

I think that's what the move has to be.

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That's a gift to the neighborhood. Alright.

That's a gift to the neighborhood. Alright.

23:24

Last idea

Last idea

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last idea.

last idea.

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Alright. The NBA All Star game just happened.

Alright. The NBA All Star game just happened.

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And,

And,

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and every sport has this, and baseball has the home run derby.

and every sport has this, and baseball has the home run derby.

23:35

Football has the pro bowl. NBA has the dunk contest in the all star game.

Football has the pro bowl. NBA has the dunk contest in the all star game.

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Why doesn't this exist for business? Is that a thought this ever crossed your mind? Why don't we have the tech all star game? Why don't we have the business the business all stars?

Why doesn't this exist for business? Is that a thought this ever crossed your mind? Why don't we have the tech all star game? Why don't we have the business the business all stars?

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I feel like there's a there's an opportunity here to bring together

I feel like there's a there's an opportunity here to bring together

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the who's who.

the who's who.

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I'm just gonna use tech for now. So bring together the who's who of tech just the all stars, honor them, get them to compete for our entertainment,

I'm just gonna use tech for now. So bring together the who's who of tech just the all stars, honor them, get them to compete for our entertainment,

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and, just make a weekend out of it. Right? Why aren't we why are we treating this like the sport that it is? So here's Here's how this might work. Tech All Star game is basically a hackathon,

and, just make a weekend out of it. Right? Why aren't we why are we treating this like the sport that it is? So here's Here's how this might work. Tech All Star game is basically a hackathon,

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and I get zuck, and I get get get Larry Paige and Surge, and I I go get founders of

and I get zuck, and I get get get Larry Paige and Surge, and I I go get founders of

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mega companies, and they're gonna perform. It's gonna be live streamed on to onto YouTube, and they're gonna have to build something. They get twenty four hours to build something. So you have an all star designer. You got Johnny Eye. Working with Mark Zuckerberg. All of a sudden, you got Brian Chesky working with, you know,

mega companies, and they're gonna perform. It's gonna be live streamed on to onto YouTube, and they're gonna have to build something. They get twenty four hours to build something. So you have an all star designer. You got Johnny Eye. Working with Mark Zuckerberg. All of a sudden, you got Brian Chesky working with, you know,

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whoever, you know,

whoever, you know,

24:35

Sundar or whatever. You you get pair these guys up into random combinations, and they're gonna have to do a hackathon. They're gonna have to build something and demo it, and somebody wins the trophy for building something cool. Cause you've seen

Sundar or whatever. You you get pair these guys up into random combinations, and they're gonna have to do a hackathon. They're gonna have to build something and demo it, and somebody wins the trophy for building something cool. Cause you've seen

24:46

that, like, Doremesh

that, like, Doremesh

24:48

loves to hack and build little projects. I remember when COVID happened, Kevin Sistrom, the guy from Instagram. He built this dashboard that was measuring the viral coefficient and the spread because he's like, hey, these politicians are just like making statements, and we have no

loves to hack and build little projects. I remember when COVID happened, Kevin Sistrom, the guy from Instagram. He built this dashboard that was measuring the viral coefficient and the spread because he's like, hey, these politicians are just like making statements, and we have no

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source of truth, no dashboard that tells us how this thing's spreading and how it's not per city. And that's what we need to look at. And so he built this dashboard and I just thought, wonder what would happen if you unleashed

source of truth, no dashboard that tells us how this thing's spreading and how it's not per city. And that's what we need to look at. And so he built this dashboard and I just thought, wonder what would happen if you unleashed

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these types of brains, the all stars

these types of brains, the all stars

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in a in a little competition of their own, a little hackathon of their own. What do you think of this idea? I if you can if if it's if the if the idea is like an award thing, then I think that's the worst idea you've ever had. I think that's a horrible idea. If you think if it's like a A thon. No one will ever do that, but I think it's an interesting exercise. And that and here's my question to you. If you took, let's say, Mark Zuckerberg,

in a in a little competition of their own, a little hackathon of their own. What do you think of this idea? I if you can if if it's if the if the idea is like an award thing, then I think that's the worst idea you've ever had. I think that's a horrible idea. If you think if it's like a A thon. No one will ever do that, but I think it's an interesting exercise. And that and here's my question to you. If you took, let's say, Mark Zuckerberg,

25:34

Jeff Bezos,

Jeff Bezos,

25:37

the Google guys and the CEO,

the Google guys and the CEO,

25:40

and you had him do a hackathon. Do you think any of them are actually still capable of making anything?

and you had him do a hackathon. Do you think any of them are actually still capable of making anything?

25:47

Like, making it. But but you it wouldn't be them on their own. So you'd pair them with, like,

Like, making it. But but you it wouldn't be them on their own. So you'd pair them with, like,

25:51

every team is

every team is

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the all star an all star engineer, so all star technology person, an all star designer, and then an all star CEO product visionary person. No. That's bullshit.

the all star an all star engineer, so all star technology person, an all star designer, and then an all star CEO product visionary person. No. That's bullshit.

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If it's You want one on one. If it's just that, like, for example, I Bezos can't probably build anything. He might, you know, he's gonna go build, a blog. You know, like, a Well, like, if it was, like, you and me, it's, like, you guys, like, you gotta go make, like, a business in the next, like, week. I'm I'm very confident that just me on my own, I could build something that makes money. Right. Do you think that,

If it's You want one on one. If it's just that, like, for example, I Bezos can't probably build anything. He might, you know, he's gonna go build, a blog. You know, like, a Well, like, if it was, like, you and me, it's, like, you guys, like, you gotta go make, like, a business in the next, like, week. I'm I'm very confident that just me on my own, I could build something that makes money. Right. Do you think that,

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what are the Google guys, Sergei and Larry

what are the Google guys, Sergei and Larry

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Do you think that they're capable of actually making anything? Maybe. Like, I know Zuck can. So Zuck, when when Snapchat came out, I remember that

Do you think that they're capable of actually making anything? Maybe. Like, I know Zuck can. So Zuck, when when Snapchat came out, I remember that

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he recognized the threat that was Snapchat so early on

he recognized the threat that was Snapchat so early on

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and created Facebook poke. He literally wrote code into the Facebook poke their competitor that they they I think they released it in nine days or, like, nineteen days or something ridiculous.

and created Facebook poke. He literally wrote code into the Facebook poke their competitor that they they I think they released it in nine days or, like, nineteen days or something ridiculous.

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And he was one of the lead engineers actually code in the project. Now he doesn't normally do that, but that was, like, the story at least.

And he was one of the lead engineers actually code in the project. Now he doesn't normally do that, but that was, like, the story at least.

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Do you think I think he could. I think very few others could. I remember so Mike, Mike Birch, who who built Bebo, he was a programmer. Right? He's a programmer. He built

Do you think I think he could. I think very few others could. I remember so Mike, Mike Birch, who who built Bebo, he was a programmer. Right? He's a programmer. He built

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four or five startups that were all interesting and successful, and we did a hack week. And I invited Michael. I was like, Michael, come hang out. Don't just be mister investor, you know, far away. Like, come hang with us, live in our, like, we're staying in your cabin. So, like, just come hang with us. And he came, and I was like, you wanna you wanna build something. We're all building these little, like, you know, apps. And, he's like, well,

four or five startups that were all interesting and successful, and we did a hack week. And I invited Michael. I was like, Michael, come hang out. Don't just be mister investor, you know, far away. Like, come hang with us, live in our, like, we're staying in your cabin. So, like, just come hang with us. And he came, and I was like, you wanna you wanna build something. We're all building these little, like, you know, apps. And, he's like, well,

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don't exactly know JavaScript.

don't exactly know JavaScript.

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Like, the languages I know aren't really used anymore, and I don't really remember a lot of it. And I haven't coded in years. My machine is not even set up to do it. So, you know, I don't even know what I could build at this point. And so he cooked us dinner instead.

Like, the languages I know aren't really used anymore, and I don't really remember a lot of it. And I haven't coded in years. My machine is not even set up to do it. So, you know, I don't even know what I could build at this point. And so he cooked us dinner instead.

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And then later, he got back into program. He's like, oh, yeah. Okay. Now I got my machine set up. I'm, you know, I'm using Python. I'm learning the new languages instead of the old stuff, but he, like, ramped up over time. And now he loves to code. He codes all the time. But I think when I put him on the spot when he hasn't been doing it, no. He was it was tough for him to just, like, go build something. Even though he's an engineer. Let me tell you something real quick. This this isn't that shocking because I didn't exactly own a tech company, but I made a I I owned a company that made tens of millions of dollars on the internet. When you used words like pie on in JavaScript or whatever that you said, I have literally no idea what those are.

And then later, he got back into program. He's like, oh, yeah. Okay. Now I got my machine set up. I'm, you know, I'm using Python. I'm learning the new languages instead of the old stuff, but he, like, ramped up over time. And now he loves to code. He codes all the time. But I think when I put him on the spot when he hasn't been doing it, no. He was it was tough for him to just, like, go build something. Even though he's an engineer. Let me tell you something real quick. This this isn't that shocking because I didn't exactly own a tech company, but I made a I I owned a company that made tens of millions of dollars on the internet. When you used words like pie on in JavaScript or whatever that you said, I have literally no idea what those are.

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Like, for real, I don't know how programming works. Try to guess. What what is Python

Like, for real, I don't know how programming works. Try to guess. What what is Python

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Well, it's like a language, but I don't know, like, I don't know what you use it for. I don't know what it does. When people talk about, like, Ruby on rails, I'm, like, so there's, like, a Java unrails? Like, how like, is there, like, I I literally don't know what the word What are these rails you speak of? Yeah. Or they'll be like, well, this is CSS. It's is HTML and this is I'm like, I don't know, like, is one of those, like, the outdoor

Well, it's like a language, but I don't know, like, I don't know what you use it for. I don't know what it does. When people talk about, like, Ruby on rails, I'm, like, so there's, like, a Java unrails? Like, how like, is there, like, I I literally don't know what the word What are these rails you speak of? Yeah. Or they'll be like, well, this is CSS. It's is HTML and this is I'm like, I don't know, like, is one of those, like, the outdoor

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siting of the home? And, like, like, I do like an analogy. Does it I I still to this day? I have no idea what they mean. This is like when I told you, I, you know, I go into home improvement. They're like, okay. So is it a drywall or and I'm like,

siting of the home? And, like, like, I do like an analogy. Does it I I still to this day? I have no idea what they mean. This is like when I told you, I, you know, I go into home improvement. They're like, okay. So is it a drywall or and I'm like,

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It's not wet. Like, wait. What do you mean?

It's not wet. Like, wait. What do you mean?

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Like, can you give me four or five types of walls with some photos tell you which one it looks most like. Hey. Can we do like a prison line up here? And I'll point to the wall that looks most like my wall?

Like, can you give me four or five types of walls with some photos tell you which one it looks most like. Hey. Can we do like a prison line up here? And I'll point to the wall that looks most like my wall?

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Like, when people talk about the stuff, so the way that we worked at my company was I would sit with the engineer and I would just draw on, like, the website.

Like, when people talk about the stuff, so the way that we worked at my company was I would sit with the engineer and I would just draw on, like, the website.

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It probably should look something like this, and I'll write the words that it should say. Once you click this button, let me draw the second thing that you should see. And I would give that. I would give it to them, and it would work somehow. And I And I to this day, I have no idea how any of those things work. Yeah. And who who needs to? I used to I used to be like, oh, I wish I knew how to code. I so much better if I knew how to code. And, I would love to learn how to code. I'm still, actually, I'm still, like, kind of at night. I'm taking this, like, you know, Udemy course on Python or something like that. And then our buddy Souley was like he's like, yeah. People say that. And he's like, I used to know how to code. He's like, he's like, dumbest thing ever. Who cares how to code? He's like, you could pay somebody Here, here's a guy in India. He can code. Whatever you want. You just tell him he'll do it.

It probably should look something like this, and I'll write the words that it should say. Once you click this button, let me draw the second thing that you should see. And I would give that. I would give it to them, and it would work somehow. And I And I to this day, I have no idea how any of those things work. Yeah. And who who needs to? I used to I used to be like, oh, I wish I knew how to code. I so much better if I knew how to code. And, I would love to learn how to code. I'm still, actually, I'm still, like, kind of at night. I'm taking this, like, you know, Udemy course on Python or something like that. And then our buddy Souley was like he's like, yeah. People say that. And he's like, I used to know how to code. He's like, he's like, dumbest thing ever. Who cares how to code? He's like, you could pay somebody Here, here's a guy in India. He can code. Whatever you want. You just tell him he'll do it.

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Can I explain why? That's stupid. Knowing why.

Can I explain why? That's stupid. Knowing why.

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I actually totally disagree with him. I think that the the key is at least you knew how to do it. So then, and if you don't wanna do it anymore, that's fine. But I actually think that when There's been times where I've talked to my developer. And in my head, I'm like, well, you just gotta click this button and you see this. And they're like, well, you don't even have to click the button, you know, like, this technology, the way it works is you could I'm like, That works. That's a possibility. Like, I don't even know. I I wish I knew how to code so I knew what frameworks I could, like, work within. Because when someone who doesn't know how to code, I'm like, how do you how did you I don't even know how it's possible. Like, you know what I mean? It's like asking someone in eighteen hundred to, like, explain to them how text messages work. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell is a phone?

I actually totally disagree with him. I think that the the key is at least you knew how to do it. So then, and if you don't wanna do it anymore, that's fine. But I actually think that when There's been times where I've talked to my developer. And in my head, I'm like, well, you just gotta click this button and you see this. And they're like, well, you don't even have to click the button, you know, like, this technology, the way it works is you could I'm like, That works. That's a possibility. Like, I don't even know. I I wish I knew how to code so I knew what frameworks I could, like, work within. Because when someone who doesn't know how to code, I'm like, how do you how did you I don't even know how it's possible. Like, you know what I mean? It's like asking someone in eighteen hundred to, like, explain to them how text messages work. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell is a phone?

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Let alone. You you know what I mean? And that's how I feel sometimes when we're talking about coding. So I think that's true. I actually agree and disagree with what he said. So I agree in the sense that I used to think I used to have this story in my head that if I if I knew that, then I would be able to be do so much more and I don't believe that that's true. I think that anything I wanted to do I could do by just, you know, hiring one of many, many programmers out there or using a no code tool It is actually not holding me back, and I can get the same result whether I do it or not. The part I disagree with is I think it's really awesome to be able to have an idea in your head and be able to make it happen yourself because there's a huge lossiness

Let alone. You you know what I mean? And that's how I feel sometimes when we're talking about coding. So I think that's true. I actually agree and disagree with what he said. So I agree in the sense that I used to think I used to have this story in my head that if I if I knew that, then I would be able to be do so much more and I don't believe that that's true. I think that anything I wanted to do I could do by just, you know, hiring one of many, many programmers out there or using a no code tool It is actually not holding me back, and I can get the same result whether I do it or not. The part I disagree with is I think it's really awesome to be able to have an idea in your head and be able to make it happen yourself because there's a huge lossiness

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in trying to explain to something else explain something that's in your head that's kinda fuzzy to somebody else, having them download your fuzzy picture, then they output it, and if it's even fuzzy your way, it's like I can have a telephone, comes out very different. A lot of times, like, when I write something or, like, like, if somebody says, alright, can you help me with this email? I'm like, yeah, but you gotta give me the keyboard. And they're like, well, no. Like, I'll I'll type it. And I'm like, no. You don't understand. Like, I don't just think of the email. I write the email, and while I'm writing it, I think of what to say. Like, I I can't create content in a in in my head. I create it while I'm doing it. And I think most great things that get created are like that. You're building it and while you're building it, you're sort of, like, figuring out what you wanna build and, like, playing with the idea live,

in trying to explain to something else explain something that's in your head that's kinda fuzzy to somebody else, having them download your fuzzy picture, then they output it, and if it's even fuzzy your way, it's like I can have a telephone, comes out very different. A lot of times, like, when I write something or, like, like, if somebody says, alright, can you help me with this email? I'm like, yeah, but you gotta give me the keyboard. And they're like, well, no. Like, I'll I'll type it. And I'm like, no. You don't understand. Like, I don't just think of the email. I write the email, and while I'm writing it, I think of what to say. Like, I I can't create content in a in in my head. I create it while I'm doing it. And I think most great things that get created are like that. You're building it and while you're building it, you're sort of, like, figuring out what you wanna build and, like, playing with the idea live,

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and that's what gets separated when you're not the builder yourself. And so I'm I am jealous that I don't get to do that when it comes to building apps. And let me ask you one more question. So let's just say that we took,

and that's what gets separated when you're not the builder yourself. And so I'm I am jealous that I don't get to do that when it comes to building apps. And let me ask you one more question. So let's just say that we took,

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some of the big folks I I actually I won't use Elon because he's proven it. But, like, you take the guy who started Snapchat.

some of the big folks I I actually I won't use Elon because he's proven it. But, like, you take the guy who started Snapchat.

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Evan, I think, Evan spiegel. Yeah.

Evan, I think, Evan spiegel. Yeah.

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Zack,

Zack,

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the Google folks,

the Google folks,

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Bezos,

Bezos,

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maybe not Bezos because he's also proven it. But you take them and you strip away, like, what they've done,

maybe not Bezos because he's also proven it. But you take them and you strip away, like, what they've done,

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And they're the same age, but, you know, they've just been like an insurance agent their whole life.

And they're the same age, but, you know, they've just been like an insurance agent their whole life.

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Do you think

Do you think

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In one scenario, do you think that they could still accomplish something great? And then on the other side, let's just say that they decided at the same time when they were young, nineteen's in starting Facebook. Let's just say that, like, you know, instead of Facebook, I'm gonna focus on, like, music or or this, like, music app, like, still tech, but just like a slightly different version. Do you think that they would be even remotely as big and successful as they as they are?

In one scenario, do you think that they could still accomplish something great? And then on the other side, let's just say that they decided at the same time when they were young, nineteen's in starting Facebook. Let's just say that, like, you know, instead of Facebook, I'm gonna focus on, like, music or or this, like, music app, like, still tech, but just like a slightly different version. Do you think that they would be even remotely as big and successful as they as they are?

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So the second question, I think, is much easier answer, which is I think all of those people would be very successful by any, like, kind of objective measure,

So the second question, I think, is much easier answer, which is I think all of those people would be very successful by any, like, kind of objective measure,

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but would they be

but would they be

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people that we know their name, we talk about them and their, you know, hundred billionaire, you know, status?

people that we know their name, we talk about them and their, you know, hundred billionaire, you know, status?

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No. You know, I do not think that that's true. I think luck plays a part in the magnitude of the success, but not the probability of success. So I think all of them, the probability of for them is all ninety plus percent. They would all be

No. You know, I do not think that that's true. I think luck plays a part in the magnitude of the success, but not the probability of success. So I think all of them, the probability of for them is all ninety plus percent. They would all be

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good at what they do, positive impact, you know,

good at what they do, positive impact, you know,

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make millions of dollars over their career.

make millions of dollars over their career.

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And be, like, considered top of their field and whatever field they go to. The magnitude of success, the fact that they end, you know, basis ends up being worth hundreds of billions of dollars,

And be, like, considered top of their field and whatever field they go to. The magnitude of success, the fact that they end, you know, basis ends up being worth hundreds of billions of dollars,

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that I think is,

that I think is,

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much more luck of the balance on which opportunity you took versus others.

much more luck of the balance on which opportunity you took versus others.

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So, yeah. So that that's kind of my answer to the second. What would you say?

So, yeah. So that that's kind of my answer to the second. What would you say?

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I agree. I think that the so for example, there's this guy named David Carpenter. You know who David Carpenter is? He's the Tumblr guy. Right? He invented Tumblr. And Tumblr

I agree. I think that the so for example, there's this guy named David Carpenter. You know who David Carpenter is? He's the Tumblr guy. Right? He invented Tumblr. And Tumblr

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basically sold to Yahoo. I think for a a billion, was it was it a billion? It's sold for a lot of money,

basically sold to Yahoo. I think for a a billion, was it was it a billion? It's sold for a lot of money,

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but he's taught then they shut it down. Tumblr's totally not existent anymore,

but he's taught then they shut it down. Tumblr's totally not existent anymore,

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and he

and he

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he doesn't I don't even know what he does. He just he's not relevant. And I think that a guy like him who I've seen talk and I've heard and I've read his writing, he's pretty brilliant. And I'm like, man, if Tumblr had not sold or if you were working at something else, I think you could have been way better. Another one is the guy who created meetup.

he doesn't I don't even know what he does. He just he's not relevant. And I think that a guy like him who I've seen talk and I've heard and I've read his writing, he's pretty brilliant. And I'm like, man, if Tumblr had not sold or if you were working at something else, I think you could have been way better. Another one is the guy who created meetup.

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Scott, I think his name is. Yeah.

Scott, I think his name is. Yeah.

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He is amazing too. But meetup is not that big of a wasn't that big. It wasn't that interesting. If that guy would have worked on something else, it actually would have he would have been significantly more successful. And and some of these guys, it's kinda like their lance arm strong and they're riding the Tour de France in a mountain bike or with a flat tire. It's like, man, you that was needlessly hard. If you could've been way better if you if you just pick it up, like Level ten hustle, level ten skill level six opportunity.

He is amazing too. But meetup is not that big of a wasn't that big. It wasn't that interesting. If that guy would have worked on something else, it actually would have he would have been significantly more successful. And and some of these guys, it's kinda like their lance arm strong and they're riding the Tour de France in a mountain bike or with a flat tire. It's like, man, you that was needlessly hard. If you could've been way better if you if you just pick it up, like Level ten hustle, level ten skill level six opportunity.

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Right? Meet up to me is like a six opportunity. It was just like a really hard space to go into. He did the best of anybody who went into that space. We all know the name because of that reason. But meetup just wasn't as big as not meeting your friends in real life and only talking to them online through Facebook. Right? Like Facebook was just a far larger opportunity. And I don't think it was that Zuck knew that. So I don't think it's that they're so kind of like,

Right? Meet up to me is like a six opportunity. It was just like a really hard space to go into. He did the best of anybody who went into that space. We all know the name because of that reason. But meetup just wasn't as big as not meeting your friends in real life and only talking to them online through Facebook. Right? Like Facebook was just a far larger opportunity. And I don't think it was that Zuck knew that. So I don't think it's that they're so kind of like,

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big brain that they just they filter out That is luck. Like best idea. I think, you know, like, there's a lot of text messages that get leaked from Zuck early on, and he was he thought wire hog was gonna be the the real thing. He was, like, you know, still debating. I don't know if I should do Facebook. When Facebook was, like, already a thing and working, and he's, like, I think, you know, this is this stuff that we're doing right now is gonna really help us when we do wire hog, which is like a file transfer protocol that he just thought might be bigger. And,

big brain that they just they filter out That is luck. Like best idea. I think, you know, like, there's a lot of text messages that get leaked from Zuck early on, and he was he thought wire hog was gonna be the the real thing. He was, like, you know, still debating. I don't know if I should do Facebook. When Facebook was, like, already a thing and working, and he's, like, I think, you know, this is this stuff that we're doing right now is gonna really help us when we do wire hog, which is like a file transfer protocol that he just thought might be bigger. And,

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You know, obviously, at some point, he recognized, no, this is the opportunity. Let me do this. But, like, it's not, like, upfront. He just said, I analyzed a hundred opportunities, and I have identified the one that's gonna be this app that has like billions of users. I don't believe that that's true at all. I think you sort of look into the size of the opportunity and the era that you were born You know, these guys, if they were born before the tech wave, they might have just been the best Blacksmith in town and not had, like, any of the tools that let you become a hundred billionaire because there just was no leverage available to you, you know, a hundred years ago or whenever.

You know, obviously, at some point, he recognized, no, this is the opportunity. Let me do this. But, like, it's not, like, upfront. He just said, I analyzed a hundred opportunities, and I have identified the one that's gonna be this app that has like billions of users. I don't believe that that's true at all. I think you sort of look into the size of the opportunity and the era that you were born You know, these guys, if they were born before the tech wave, they might have just been the best Blacksmith in town and not had, like, any of the tools that let you become a hundred billionaire because there just was no leverage available to you, you know, a hundred years ago or whenever.

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Yeah. I, by the way,

Yeah. I, by the way,

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Michael Chandler and Justin Gates cheap, they,

Michael Chandler and Justin Gates cheap, they,

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they fought re like, three months ago. These are two UFC guys, and they're both known for us for kinda being, like, big meat heads who just stand in the middle and bang and hit each other really hard and There's they're just kinda crazy. And Justin Gachey at the end said something amazing. He goes,

they fought re like, three months ago. These are two UFC guys, and they're both known for us for kinda being, like, big meat heads who just stand in the middle and bang and hit each other really hard and There's they're just kinda crazy. And Justin Gachey at the end said something amazing. He goes,

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I love the he had just suffered this, like, three round war where they're banging other in the head as hard as I can, and you feel sad because you're like, this guy is gonna have brain damage. And at the end, he goes, what just happened? I love it. He goes, I feel like I was born in the wrong era. I should have been a Roman gladiator because I would have loved to fight to the death in front of all you people.

I love the he had just suffered this, like, three round war where they're banging other in the head as hard as I can, and you feel sad because you're like, this guy is gonna have brain damage. And at the end, he goes, what just happened? I love it. He goes, I feel like I was born in the wrong era. I should have been a Roman gladiator because I would have loved to fight to the death in front of all you people.

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And I and I heard that, it gave me chills. I was like, I believe you. You're you and I are not the same. You're you're crazy. Like, you are built to be a warrior. And sometimes I think about that. I'm like, who today? Like, or I I think, like, who was, like, like, Alexander the great? If we put him in, like, today's era, like, would he just be, like, too brutish and we'd be like, dude, you're an idiot bounce. Like, get out of your dumb idiot or, like, if Napoleon came into play nowadays, like, the wave is kinda like a dating app.

And I and I heard that, it gave me chills. I was like, I believe you. You're you and I are not the same. You're you're crazy. Like, you are built to be a warrior. And sometimes I think about that. I'm like, who today? Like, or I I think, like, who was, like, like, Alexander the great? If we put him in, like, today's era, like, would he just be, like, too brutish and we'd be like, dude, you're an idiot bounce. Like, get out of your dumb idiot or, like, if Napoleon came into play nowadays, like, the wave is kinda like a dating app.

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Yeah. Like, what would, like, what would, like, the gladiators

Yeah. Like, what would, like, what would, like, the gladiators

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then be working on now? Like, would they just, like Well, let's ask our historian, Ben. You study these guys. What do you think? If you transplanted Alexander the Greater, Napoleon, into this era? Or Edison, would he be, what are you a dating app? Really? That's so stupid? Or what do you think that that's the coolest thing ever? And he goes, I wish I could have done this.

then be working on now? Like, would they just, like Well, let's ask our historian, Ben. You study these guys. What do you think? If you transplanted Alexander the Greater, Napoleon, into this era? Or Edison, would he be, what are you a dating app? Really? That's so stupid? Or what do you think that that's the coolest thing ever? And he goes, I wish I could have done this.

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I doubt Edison would be into dating apps, but I, like, I was my Alexander the Great episode, one of the points I made is I was just reading this book about Alexander the Great, and it talked about a contract that he negotiated

I doubt Edison would be into dating apps, but I, like, I was my Alexander the Great episode, one of the points I made is I was just reading this book about Alexander the Great, and it talked about a contract that he negotiated

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with one of his contractors, one of his suppliers to move

with one of his contractors, one of his suppliers to move

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their baggage train from one area to another. And I was just like, oh, this is, like, not that different. Like, he had contracts that he had to negotiate and he had suppliers

their baggage train from one area to another. And I was just like, oh, this is, like, not that different. Like, he had contracts that he had to negotiate and he had suppliers

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who provided his weapons and, like, logistics, and he just contracted them out and he had people in charge of the contracts and, like, had basically kind of the same organization that CEOs have,

who provided his weapons and, like, logistics, and he just contracted them out and he had people in charge of the contracts and, like, had basically kind of the same organization that CEOs have,

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So I think, like, yeah. So Alexander the great, I think he'd be a

So I think, like, yeah. So Alexander the great, I think he'd be a

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his personality. He'd probably be like a CEO.

his personality. He'd probably be like a CEO.

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Edison would be, like,

Edison would be, like,

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entrepreneur

entrepreneur

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kind of technical, but moves out of it like a Zuck. Like, yeah.

kind of technical, but moves out of it like a Zuck. Like, yeah.

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Yeah. That's interesting. I I think about that all the time, about, like, what, like, the

Yeah. That's interesting. I I think about that all the time, about, like, what, like, the

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the you know, people who dominated from hundreds of years ago, what would they be like today? And vice versa. I'm like, dude, if if Zach didn't learn how to use a computer, like, would that guy had just been a like, in the eighteen hundreds, like, what could he even have survived

the you know, people who dominated from hundreds of years ago, what would they be like today? And vice versa. I'm like, dude, if if Zach didn't learn how to use a computer, like, would that guy had just been a like, in the eighteen hundreds, like, what could he even have survived

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the plague? Like, you know what I mean? And so I think about that all the time.

the plague? Like, you know what I mean? And so I think about that all the time.

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Well, guys, I to run. Alright. End the episode.

Well, guys, I to run. Alright. End the episode.

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