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I have a friend,

I have a friend,

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who used to work work with me, and

who used to work work with me, and

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I caught up with him. And his story,

I caught up with him. And his story,

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he basically went from, like,

he basically went from, like,

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average, like, a average job. Like, you wouldn't look at this person and say, oh, that's a star career.

average, like, a average job. Like, you wouldn't look at this person and say, oh, that's a star career.

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And,

And,

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they're good. They were doing well, obviously, but they were doing, like, normal person well.

they're good. They were doing well, obviously, but they were doing, like, normal person well.

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And they went from normal person well to making, like,

And they went from normal person well to making, like,

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to personally making, like, fifteen million dollars in the last year,

to personally making, like, fifteen million dollars in the last year,

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just by

just by

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they they basically quit their job, and they went down a a crypto a hole and started betting on things in Defi, and they started playing with all the Defi projects, investing their money in Defi,

they they basically quit their job, and they went down a a crypto a hole and started betting on things in Defi, and they started playing with all the Defi projects, investing their money in Defi,

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and, they didn't have a huge base of capital. They had, you know,

and, they didn't have a huge base of capital. They had, you know,

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call it half a million dollars that they put in. And to turn a half million dollars, if and if you have no path in your career to being, like,

call it half a million dollars that they put in. And to turn a half million dollars, if and if you have no path in your career to being, like,

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a, you know, a deca millionaire. Right? Like, if you don't have a path where you're like, yeah, I'm gonna have fuck you money to go from no path, no no, like, reasonable

a, you know, a deca millionaire. Right? Like, if you don't have a path where you're like, yeah, I'm gonna have fuck you money to go from no path, no no, like, reasonable

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story line that makes sense there. You have a job at a company that pays you good salary, and that's that. To that is amazing to me and awesome. And, like, you know, just, like, blew my mind more so than these guys who become multi billionaires who were, like, proteges

story line that makes sense there. You have a job at a company that pays you good salary, and that's that. To that is amazing to me and awesome. And, like, you know, just, like, blew my mind more so than these guys who become multi billionaires who were, like, proteges

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and, like, invented the protocol or invested two hundred fifty k in a random token. It's like, this is somebody who just took their own money out of the stock market. And I was like, of investing in Apple, Google, and Facebook, I'm gonna invest in Crazy. Crypto and turned a normal amount a normal, like, life savings amount of money into a life changing amount of money. And I wanna have him on to tell his full story because it actually has, like, a bunch of twists and turns,

and, like, invented the protocol or invested two hundred fifty k in a random token. It's like, this is somebody who just took their own money out of the stock market. And I was like, of investing in Apple, Google, and Facebook, I'm gonna invest in Crazy. Crypto and turned a normal amount a normal, like, life savings amount of money into a life changing amount of money. And I wanna have him on to tell his full story because it actually has, like, a bunch of twists and turns,

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that are, like, kind of amazing. So I'm gonna ask him if he'll come on and share it. Who am I willing to?

that are, like, kind of amazing. So I'm gonna ask him if he'll come on and share it. Who am I willing to?

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Yeah. You know them.

Yeah. You know them.

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I don't know if they're willing to share, but if they are, it's gonna make for an amazing episode.

I don't know if they're willing to share, but if they are, it's gonna make for an amazing episode.

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I'll ask him if he'll do it next week. Did they,

I'll ask him if he'll do it next week. Did they,

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Did they earn the or did they, sell do they have USD or, like, some type of stable

Did they earn the or did they, sell do they have USD or, like, some type of stable

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currency?

currency?

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No. They're they're still in crypto, like, a hundred or a hundred plus percent because they, you know But but but is it stable like a big, like, a a popular thing?

No. They're they're still in crypto, like, a hundred or a hundred plus percent because they, you know But but but is it stable like a big, like, a a popular thing?

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It's a mix of popular things and, like But they make it sell these and stuff. Yeah. They could everything's liquid. If they wanted to cash out and say, I'm done. I'm going to Malibu, and I'm gonna chill. I'm gonna pretend that this year never existed. And I basically won a lottery. They could do that. Because we have a buddy in our chat group who said he made all this money in some crazy coin, but he's like, I can't sell it. So it's like That's different. That that's like,

It's a mix of popular things and, like But they make it sell these and stuff. Yeah. They could everything's liquid. If they wanted to cash out and say, I'm done. I'm going to Malibu, and I'm gonna chill. I'm gonna pretend that this year never existed. And I basically won a lottery. They could do that. Because we have a buddy in our chat group who said he made all this money in some crazy coin, but he's like, I can't sell it. So it's like That's different. That that's like,

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those are, like, either illiquid. Like, oh, there's this coin, but it's not listed yet, or it's liquid, but there's like no trading volume whatsoever on this coin. And so, like, yeah, if you have ten million dollars and you go to sell even a hundred thousand, it'll crash the price of the coin. That's not what this is. That's that's a different thing.

those are, like, either illiquid. Like, oh, there's this coin, but it's not listed yet, or it's liquid, but there's like no trading volume whatsoever on this coin. And so, like, yeah, if you have ten million dollars and you go to sell even a hundred thousand, it'll crash the price of the coin. That's not what this is. That's that's a different thing.

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That's a what that is is

That's a what that is is

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I I I make a million coins I keep nine hundred ninety nine thousand for myself,

I I I make a million coins I keep nine hundred ninety nine thousand for myself,

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and then I sell one of them for a dollar.

and then I sell one of them for a dollar.

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And oh, now the total value of my thing is a million dollars. And it's like, no, it's not really. You you there's such a lit such a small amount of the supply out there being sold. It's not indicative of the true price. This is what I'm talking about is not that situation. There any other person? Alright. So you have a story of someone who did five hundred thousand to fifteen million.

And oh, now the total value of my thing is a million dollars. And it's like, no, it's not really. You you there's such a lit such a small amount of the supply out there being sold. It's not indicative of the true price. This is what I'm talking about is not that situation. There any other person? Alright. So you have a story of someone who did five hundred thousand to fifteen million.

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I just told you about this guy who in, like, two or three years By the way, this person

I just told you about this guy who in, like, two or three years By the way, this person

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Non technical.

Non technical.

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Never was a trader or financial person. Like, they would own, like, a index fund or mutual fund before that. Didn't know how to spell blockchain.

Never was a trader or financial person. Like, they would own, like, a index fund or mutual fund before that. Didn't know how to spell blockchain.

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You know, like, this person is that's why this blows my mind. It's not just this I know that amount is not the craziest amount of money. It's an amount of money for anybody. But

You know, like, this person is that's why this blows my mind. It's not just this I know that amount is not the craziest amount of money. It's an amount of money for anybody. But

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what's crazy is

what's crazy is

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the point a to point b, it makes no sense. It's like, how could those two points connect? In that amount of time, it's mind blowing to me. So I told you a story about this dude, Chris, who did two hundred and fifty thousand up to a billion you just said five hundred thousand to fifteen million. Do we know anyone else that has this like crazy crazy journey?

the point a to point b, it makes no sense. It's like, how could those two points connect? In that amount of time, it's mind blowing to me. So I told you a story about this dude, Chris, who did two hundred and fifty thousand up to a billion you just said five hundred thousand to fifteen million. Do we know anyone else that has this like crazy crazy journey?

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Personally, you've talked about this guy. You talked about somebody, right, that you're Yeah. And a friend that that they they did one million to a hundred million.

Personally, you've talked about this guy. You talked about somebody, right, that you're Yeah. And a friend that that they they did one million to a hundred million.

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Yeah. So At its peak, when Bitcoin was, sixty thousand. So I don't I don't whatever is that discount it. Okay. I have another one. There is kid who I call him a kid because he was actually a kid. He I built this a product called Blab back in the day. It's like kind of like Clubhousey

Yeah. So At its peak, when Bitcoin was, sixty thousand. So I don't I don't whatever is that discount it. Okay. I have another one. There is kid who I call him a kid because he was actually a kid. He I built this a product called Blab back in the day. It's like kind of like Clubhousey

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could basically go hang out and chat with people. And this kid used to come home every day from school. He used to get on and chat. And he didn't chat in the other rooms that had thirteen year olds. He came to our rooms because he loved technology startups. He wanted to be in the start seen.

could basically go hang out and chat with people. And this kid used to come home every day from school. He used to get on and chat. And he didn't chat in the other rooms that had thirteen year olds. He came to our rooms because he loved technology startups. He wanted to be in the start seen.

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And,

And,

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I think it was maybe thirteen at the time. Okay. So fast forward, it's been, like, six years since then. So now he's, like, let's say, twenty one or something like that.

I think it was maybe thirteen at the time. Okay. So fast forward, it's been, like, six years since then. So now he's, like, let's say, twenty one or something like that.

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It's been a it's been a while. And,

It's been a it's been a while. And,

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he created some he but he was a he's a technical guy. He created a a

he created some he but he was a he's a technical guy. He created a a

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protocol

protocol

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I was like, oh, what you been up to? Like, how was your startup going? And he's like, it's yeah. Startups. Okay. We haven't been focusing on it for the last few months. I was like, oh, I know it, man. It's tough. Just hang in there, buddy. You know, just pivot finds a pain. He's like, actually, like, we ended up creating this thing anonymously on one of these random, like, side chains And it was like, what up? Blah blah blah. Some bunch of terms, I don't even understand. It's a, you know, it's a it's a derivatives perpetual contract for, you know, adding liquidity to this blah blah blah. I'm like, okay. I don't even understand what you're saying.

I was like, oh, what you been up to? Like, how was your startup going? And he's like, it's yeah. Startups. Okay. We haven't been focusing on it for the last few months. I was like, oh, I know it, man. It's tough. Just hang in there, buddy. You know, just pivot finds a pain. He's like, actually, like, we ended up creating this thing anonymously on one of these random, like, side chains And it was like, what up? Blah blah blah. Some bunch of terms, I don't even understand. It's a, you know, it's a it's a derivatives perpetual contract for, you know, adding liquidity to this blah blah blah. I'm like, okay. I don't even understand what you're saying.

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And he's like, yeah. The market cap of it, like, you know, basically, like, the market cap of it is, like, nine hundred million right now. And, you know, I I think he cashed out ten million dollars in this. He's like, he's like, dude, it's been insane. The market cap went up like crazy. Now it's at two hundred million.

And he's like, yeah. The market cap of it, like, you know, basically, like, the market cap of it is, like, nine hundred million right now. And, you know, I I think he cashed out ten million dollars in this. He's like, he's like, dude, it's been insane. The market cap went up like crazy. Now it's at two hundred million.

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And he's like, I was able to, like, take out, like, a life changing amount of money. He I took out ten million. He was, he was, like, he was asking me because he goes,

And he's like, I was able to, like, take out, like, a life changing amount of money. He I took out ten million. He was, he was, like, he was asking me because he goes,

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heard you guys talking about charities and charity water. You told the charity water stores really moved, like, I've set aside seven figures to, donate.

heard you guys talking about charities and charity water. You told the charity water stores really moved, like, I've set aside seven figures to, donate.

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You're like, what? I was like, you've set aside seven figures. Like, do you, like, are you seven years old? What? How did this happen? Where? What if what has happened in this amount of time? Like, I used to talk to you when you would come home from eighth grade and get online,

You're like, what? I was like, you've set aside seven figures. Like, do you, like, are you seven years old? What? How did this happen? Where? What if what has happened in this amount of time? Like, I used to talk to you when you would come home from eighth grade and get online,

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like, you're donating millions of dollars to charity now. Like, what is, again,

like, you're donating millions of dollars to charity now. Like, what is, again,

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a and b, it broke my brain. And I don't mean this as an insult to them. Like If they were if they were only fifteen minutes, so they're still only, like, nineteen?

a and b, it broke my brain. And I don't mean this as an insult to them. Like If they were if they were only fifteen minutes, so they're still only, like, nineteen?

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Yeah. I they're twenty now, twenty one, something like that. It's been, like, seven years since we've made that thing. So,

Yeah. I they're twenty now, twenty one, something like that. It's been, like, seven years since we've made that thing. So,

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you know, it's not it's not mind blowing to me that this person is successful. In both cases, I I really like this person as why I used to hang out with them. That's why we I used to work with one of them. I think they're really smart and we're gonna be sick normal person successful.

you know, it's not it's not mind blowing to me that this person is successful. In both cases, I I really like this person as why I used to hang out with them. That's why we I used to work with one of them. I think they're really smart and we're gonna be sick normal person successful.

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It's like when, you know, oh, I went, like, my sister went to high school with this girl, Lily Galicci, who's like this super famous Instagram star now, and she's, like, has her own TV show on bravo.

It's like when, you know, oh, I went, like, my sister went to high school with this girl, Lily Galicci, who's like this super famous Instagram star now, and she's, like, has her own TV show on bravo.

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And it's, like, wait, that's the Lily Girl who used to come to our house after school. Like, she was just, like, a normal girl, like, Wait. That's her. Like, that doesn't even look like her anymore. And they're like, yeah. She's had some work done. Right? It's, like, just mind blowing to know a normal person who's, like, yeah, that's a cool normal don't don't do well in life. To be like, no. Actually, they're, like, one of those crazy outlier stories. And in a way that you wouldn't have otherwise predicted, you know, it didn't make any sense. Like,

And it's, like, wait, that's the Lily Girl who used to come to our house after school. Like, she was just, like, a normal girl, like, Wait. That's her. Like, that doesn't even look like her anymore. And they're like, yeah. She's had some work done. Right? It's, like, just mind blowing to know a normal person who's, like, yeah, that's a cool normal don't don't do well in life. To be like, no. Actually, they're, like, one of those crazy outlier stories. And in a way that you wouldn't have otherwise predicted, you know, it didn't make any sense. Like,

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Yeah. It's not it's not that that was their skill set, and they tried tried tried that thing for ten years and finally hit. It's like, just out of nowhere they just did this thing and it and crypto is this amazing thing like that. So, by the way, I'm gonna say something. When I first talked to my friend, I caught up with my friend, I felt insanely jealous. I was, like, I was happy for him, and I like him and all that. But I was also, like,

Yeah. It's not it's not that that was their skill set, and they tried tried tried that thing for ten years and finally hit. It's like, just out of nowhere they just did this thing and it and crypto is this amazing thing like that. So, by the way, I'm gonna say something. When I first talked to my friend, I caught up with my friend, I felt insanely jealous. I was, like, I was happy for him, and I like him and all that. But I was also, like,

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I was, like, in my head, I was just, like, what the fuck have I been doing with my life? With with the the friend that used to work for you? Both of them. Both the same reaction. Yeah. Because it feels weird because you're like, oh, wait. You kinda looked up to me. And I was I'm your mentor. Now now I'm, like, you know, way less successful than you. So, like, what just happened? You just, like, catapulted really crazy. We're, like, between the last time we caught up and now. But there there's jealousy there. It's easy. And I just wanna say it like, you know, a interesting thing to observe is what is your reaction to hearing stories like this?

I was, like, in my head, I was just, like, what the fuck have I been doing with my life? With with the the friend that used to work for you? Both of them. Both the same reaction. Yeah. Because it feels weird because you're like, oh, wait. You kinda looked up to me. And I was I'm your mentor. Now now I'm, like, you know, way less successful than you. So, like, what just happened? You just, like, catapulted really crazy. We're, like, between the last time we caught up and now. But there there's jealousy there. It's easy. And I just wanna say it like, you know, a interesting thing to observe is what is your reaction to hearing stories like this?

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There's a part of me that I'm not proud of which gets jealous of it, but that used to be, like,

There's a part of me that I'm not proud of which gets jealous of it, but that used to be, like,

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It used to be I would feel that. I wouldn't really acknowledge that that's what I was feeling, and I would kind of find reasons why it was like, that's just luck or,

It used to be I would feel that. I wouldn't really acknowledge that that's what I was feeling, and I would kind of find reasons why it was like, that's just luck or,

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like,

like,

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You know, well, well, they probably are taking a bunch of risk and they might lose it all, and I'm kinda secretly rooting for it to not not all workouts just so perfectly as it has.

You know, well, well, they probably are taking a bunch of risk and they might lose it all, and I'm kinda secretly rooting for it to not not all workouts just so perfectly as it has.

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That's gone, but I still got a little bit of that, like, jealousy paying left. And I'd say the interesting thing is

That's gone, but I still got a little bit of that, like, jealousy paying left. And I'd say the interesting thing is

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my my coach said this to me, he goes,

my my coach said this to me, he goes,

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you'll you'll encounter people in your life where your success just reminds them of their failure.

you'll you'll encounter people in your life where your success just reminds them of their failure.

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And, they're focused on your success to focus on their failure. Your success has reminded them of their failure, or your abundance has reminded their them of their lack.

And, they're focused on your success to focus on their failure. Your success has reminded them of their failure, or your abundance has reminded their them of their lack.

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And, if you notice that in yourself, you wanna

And, if you notice that in yourself, you wanna

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be aware of that and change that. And if you find other people and you're like, oh, these people are haters, like, you know, just understand what's coming on. They don't actually hate you. It's

be aware of that and change that. And if you find other people and you're like, oh, these people are haters, like, you know, just understand what's coming on. They don't actually hate you. It's

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your successes reminded them of some failing that they have in themselves, and that's where their attention has gone. And so, yeah, I wanted to share that because I I definitely felt crazy feeling that I hadn't felt it in a long time, but these stories were still mind blowing that I could I was like, wow.

your successes reminded them of some failing that they have in themselves, and that's where their attention has gone. And so, yeah, I wanted to share that because I I definitely felt crazy feeling that I hadn't felt it in a long time, but these stories were still mind blowing that I could I was like, wow.

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This I I don't even know what to say.

This I I don't even know what to say.

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I feel lucky to

I feel lucky to

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know who I know, which we have the same group, basically,

know who I know, which we have the same group, basically,

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that I've, like,

that I've, like,

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these stories that sound unbelievably

these stories that sound unbelievably

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true

true

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I'm a big yeah. I know that person.

I'm a big yeah. I know that person.

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I saw it. It it was wild. So, like, an example is

I saw it. It it was wild. So, like, an example is

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Moi Zali selling native deodorant for a hundred million dollars two years after starting it. I was in we shared an office when he was starting it, and I saw him try to learn Facebook ads. Like, I saw the thing come to fruition. I saw it right in front of my eyes every single day for, like, six or ten months.

Moi Zali selling native deodorant for a hundred million dollars two years after starting it. I was in we shared an office when he was starting it, and I saw him try to learn Facebook ads. Like, I saw the thing come to fruition. I saw it right in front of my eyes every single day for, like, six or ten months.

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And that was almost half the journey.

And that was almost half the journey.

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