Encarta | The $5M Question, The Company You Would Build If You Had the Time, VR Therapy, and More

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Hundred percent. I've been saying this for a long time, which is anybody who could figure out how to employ the stay at home mom workforce

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is gonna make billions of dollars

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Dude, this morning,

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my friend had a fortieth birthday party and he rented out an entire water park This morning? From, like, seven thirty AM to, like, ten AM.

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And I went to Yeah. It was like me and Ramon and Neville. And then, like, you know, David Pearl, he was there and a bunch of other guys are there. And I it was so fun. We had this whole park to ourselves, and then I came home and, like, threw up and went to sleep.

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Like, I because you caught something? Because you you threw about a nostalgia. Why why are you puking? I didn't re like, when I was a kid, I used to love that stuff, and then I did all these, like, slides. And, like, it went too hard. And, like, going through them, like, I, like, you go like, these slides are it's kind of hard to explain, but you're, like, in the, you know, those tubes that, like, go in twisties

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whatever. Like, it just made me sick to my stomach. I I I was like, on the right home, I was like, no, I think it might throw up. I can you unlock the window?

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It I couldn't believe how, like, all I got.

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You savaged. You threw up out the window? You didn't do it out the window, but I came home and I got sick, and I just had to lay down. Cannot believe how

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life has changed.

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Like, you didn't even drink. It's just just the straight just the just the Just the just like the like, what did you go to rides on dis at Disney?

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Like, the my my daughter's too. So I did only, like, the dumbo ride, like, the most simple rides. I don't like, I think I was a little crazy. I think I would have done, like, the big stuff. I think I would throw up at this point. I couldn't handle it. It was horrible.

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But, man, this is why Austin is awesome. So, like,

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okay. So David Pearl, I don't know him that well, but

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just two blocks up. There's this restaurant. And I mean Sarah went out to breakfast and he was there. And so I he we knew who each other's were, and we just said, what's good? We're now we're gonna go hang out. Last night, I had this guy over named Chris Williamson. Do you know who that is? No. He's like a popular YouTuber, and he just DMmed me and said, I'm in Austin. Do you wanna hang out? I go, yeah, just come over for dinner.

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Like we're just constantly just seeing people. It's pretty wild. It's a small weird it's like a a lot of like cool people here but it's a small town.

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Yeah. That used to be the case in San Francisco, you know, because you would just bump into people everywhere

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that were, like, doing the same thing. Like minded people who are also in the same game. But,

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I don't know. I moved out of the city now. So, like, you know, I'm in the bird. My my neighbor is eighty years old. You know, if I bump into him, you know, he's telling me about, like, a crochet or something like that. So this is not the same. Well, it's it's awesome here. I've I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

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You wanna get in some stuff? Yeah. You have a bunch of really things to talk about. I've got less interesting things to talk about. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's pick one.

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Actually, let me tell let me let me lead with mine because I have less is pretty much the only thing, but you talked to this person. Alright. This woman named Rebecca Zimalo. You talked to her. Right?

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Yeah. I think you put her to last name. Zammarillo. Zammarillo.

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Sorry. Okay. Alright. So I did a call with her as well. I I I deamned her and be and we and we started talking

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This woman is amazing. So, basically, it's her and her husband, her husband's name's Matt. Their partners on this. She has a YouTube channel. It's anyone listening to this, you only probably know about it if you have kids. So it's meant for children. It's like it's like acting like fictional stuff. Like,

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to eight,

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six to ten ish, maybe where it's, like,

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it's not the, like, absolute beginner kitty, Cocamelon type of stuff. It's like somewhere between and yes. They basically, like, it's a little show. It's a t it's almost like TV show,

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you know, whether it's blue's clues or whatever else, they're they create, like, you know, these videos, these are, like, ten minute videos that are entertaining. And on her personal channel, she's got, like, ten or twelve million subscribers,

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She has seven other or seven channels total. So six other channels, one for her dog, one for her husband, one for like this for gaming, just like all types of stuff. She's releasing eight videos a week. They have a team of like eight or six people maybe. And she kinda told me a little bit about some of, like, the business numbers.

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My mind was blown. It was astounding. Unbelievable. It was unbelievable. Did you talk to her about her business? We can't, like, I didn't ask her if I could say anything and and she wouldn't like that. But Put that on blast. But, yeah, I I, like, the, you know, the dog has ten times. It may be twenty times more subscribers than we do on YouTube. Like, it's like, oh, this is my dog's gaming channel, and it'll have, like, four hundred thousand subscribers or something crazy. Is she gets YouTube

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has, I mean, ten million subscribers is no joke. And the amount of production, the content output, like, just that thing you said sounded like, oh, like, seven, eight videos a week. Like, okay. So they do a video. They release video pretty much every day. But they're, like, forty minute long sometimes. Yeah. They're, like, long videos with, like, story lines about, like, And she'll be like, you know,

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yeah, we moved into this new house, and there was, like, this weird door in my bedroom. So we created this story line about this, like, secret door secret passage that takes you down, and then there's a villain inside, and the villain is my husband. And, like, that's the, like, then they create a whole play, basically, a little screenplay, and they shoot it. While we were talking, she's like, yeah, downstairs, there's, like, eight people for our crew, like, our kind of film, audio,

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you know, editors, whatever, that are all here. And she's like, yeah, my life is crazy. It's it's it was wild, and she was telling me about different stuff. And so there's this guy named Dar Mann. So his first name is Dar, d h. I know him well. Yeah. Okay. So you're friends with them? Not friends with them. My wife

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either knew him, like, in college or something like that or whatever, but then we've

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done some deals with that, him and his wife around, like, influencer content. So he's got thirteen point eight million subscribers. And it's

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It's kinda lame what he does. Like, lame in that it's not gonna fit what we we do. But basically, it's like Hallmark channel videos. Like, one was like bully

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someone bullies an autistic kid and the reaction is crazy or and it's like a fictional hallmark

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video. I think they like, children watch it, I guess, to understand, like, values.

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And he's got something like a hundred employees,

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and he's brand new to this. Like, within Like a three year thing. Yeah. Like two, three years. A hundred employees, and they pump these videos out to the point of, like, right now, he's got six point three billion views.

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And it is crazy. And across all their platforms, their videos have been viewed twenty seven billion times. It's

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some of these YouTubers, it is I'm just blown away at how big their businesses are. And when I'm thinking about it,

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And I talked to Rebecca. I'm like, this actually isn't that hard. I could do this. And if you dedicate, like, forty or fifty hours a week, if you start from scratch, you can get big really fast. And but you have to treat it like a job, not a hobby, just like anything else. Yeah. Like a business, not even a job. Because you're managing a bunch of people and you gotta have a product for customers and things like that. So so, yeah, I totally agree.

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Like, I I'm on his Twitter. So

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It says, like, new videos Monday through Thursday, family friendly kit approved. Right? This is a that is a product you're offering. We, yeah, we release on these days. We are kid friendly rated g, you know, like, here's what you're gonna get out of this, and that's that's, you know, my studio company or whatever.

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And I think, but by the way, before this, this guy, I think he was doing, like, a cannabis company. And e commerce thing. Yeah. They have an e commerce and cannabis business. Like unrelated.

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Doing all all kinds of stuff? It's it's amazing. It's incredible.

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These YouTubers,

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like, I'm blown away because there's so many that you have no idea who they are but they have these empires that could be potentially making tens of millions of dollars a year.

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Yeah. I I also think,

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you know, it's really hard to do what they're doing.

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Like, you know, the it's not for everybody.

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And I I guess that's kind of obvious, but,

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I guess what I'm trying to say is even if you could do it, not everybody could do it, but even if you could do it, doesn't mean you should do it. Like, this is such a hard thing to do to get on that treadmill and say, I'm gonna produce

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Awesome content.

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Five days a week nonstop. And if I ever stop, the algorithm punishes me, and my subscribers leave my channel, and my Patreon people stop giving me money, and my I don't have ad content with my sponsors. And if I ever, you know, just don't feel like being in front of the camera, like, it doesn't work. There's no substitute teacher

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to, you know, step in here and and and step into this business. So I think it is a really valuable

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I think it's a powerful business when you have it because anytime you have the trust of millions of people who like your entertainment, that's great. But man,

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I don't think it's worth it. You know, just I I I'm not even just saying that theoretically. Like, I've thought about doing it, and I'm like, there's no way this is worth it for me. I I and that's what I said to her. And so this guy, Dar, I think he's not, like, the face, I believe. In most of his videos, I I don't think I think he's in close to none of his videos or something like with her. She was like, yeah, but we've got all these seven other channels now. So we diversified beyond just me. And I agree with you. I think that that's a hard treadmill, but I would say to the the other side is, like, everything is that. Right? If you start anything, like, you of course, you just kinda work at it for a long time. I think I could share this, but when I did the episode when I recorded with Hudson Minaj, who's, like, you know, comedian,

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he's on TV shows, stuff like that. He

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he had asked me at one point during the thing. I think the episode's coming out soon.

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The he had asked me, like, you know,

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like, what would you do next step if you were me?

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He he asked you that. Yeah. Like, kinda, like, for okay. From a business point of view, what would you do next? And,

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On the pod itself, I don't think I got him, like, gave him a great answer. Like, I think in in the pod, we were talking more about, like, how would you invest your money? And, I was like, you know, here's kind of the thought process I would go down. It was kind of a boring lame answer. I would, to be honest, but afterwards when we were hanging out,

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I told him what I think is actually the real answer for this. I said, you know, everybody should do what fits them. Like, something that looks exhausting to me, might look might feel amazing to somebody else. So, you know, don't don't take my word for it. But let's just pretend I'm just gonna give you my two cents and you could throw it away if you don't like it.

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I said if I was you,

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this touring business model seems awesome because I was at your show. It was, you know, like, four thousand seats sold out. Every, you know, every average ticket's like a hundred fifty bucks, and you just did that eight times in this city, and then you're gonna go to fifty cities on this tour. Like, you could just add it up and be like, wow. You can make a lot of money touring. And, and then there's no limit to that. Like, yeah, this was a four thousand person auditorium, but you could do your same set in front of thirty thousand people in a in a bigger stadium if, like, you know, Chris Rock or Dean Cook or whoever these other people would do that that size tours. So I said, you got a business model that works.

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And

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but the problem is you're, like, as I hear a new dad, like me, like, imagine being on the road going to fifty cities. Like, we've been invited of many things. I've been like, yeah. And then I'm like, traveling is so hard with little kids. I gotta leave my wife. Really wanna leave the house for an extended period of time right now. Like, I like being home. So I was like, you don't for me, I would wanna get rid of the travel component. I said, okay. How do you do that? You can't have a substitute teacher come in and say your jokes on stage. That doesn't work. And so what I had told him afterwards, I go, if I was you,

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I would stash cash, and I would create a two year runway

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where I could just work on one thing, and that is creating

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the next Hamilton.

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And he's like, what? And I was like, I would use your storytelling, your comedic abilities.

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I would create Hamilton for Brown people. Because that's, like, his audience is his demographic is, like, heavily skewed asian. And I said, I'll create Hamilton for brown people. I don't even know what that means. I'll just take that and say I'm doing that.

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And then he's like, you know, he reacted to it or whatever. And I was like, the reason I would do that is because then you get the business model of touring, but it's not you on the state. Yeah. You can sit back.

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You all you only have to create it once and, like, mama Mia has been running for fucking sixteen years and has done over six hundred million dollars in ticket sales. And,

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you know, like, Hamilton's done over a billion dollars in ticket sales. And it's the same story. It's the same songs. It's the same jokes. Every night done by a different cast. Of kind of,

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like,

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you know, fungible or interchangeable pieces. So you're not super dependent on a one talent. Like, you can switch it off. Switch switch out people if you need. So I was like, that to me seems like an amazing business model. I would do that. So that that's kind of my example of this YouTube thing. It's like,

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You can also do the YouTube thing, but in a different way. Like, I think it's cool that Dar isn't the face of his videos. So then it's more like a production company. It's like a TV show he's created, not so much of vlog. Dude, there's this guy, people are gonna laugh at me because I don't know or if you know who this is. Is it Andrew Lloyd Weber? I forget who would I forget the guy's name. Isn't that the fan of the opera guy? Yeah. And did he do Joseph,

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something Jesus radical? What's that that Broadway show where it's like radical Jesus or like Jesus'

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It's like about Jesus and they're like this Christ super Yes. Fuck it. What you're looking for?

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Yes.

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So you get school of rock, Phantom of the opera,

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and Avita, which are all big hits that I've heard of. And then I've never heard of Jesus Christ superstar, but, yeah, that's apparently, like, done in the seventies. Yeah. He,

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he's a billionaire.

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It it it it yeah. So so I looked up the so when I thought of that play model, I was like, is the play is the play business a good business? It could be. And I think it can be. So the the top the top IP

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definitely accrues, like, a shit ton of value. Like I said, if you you can go look at, like, Lion King is grossed, like, two point something billion dollars.

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That's the number one stage play. What's the number? Two and three. Hamilton is like getting up there. It's like it's like number two or three now, but it's like very new. So it'll it'll surpass line thing if it just keeps going.

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There's, like, fan of the opera. There's Mamma Mia. There's, like, if you take the top ten, and they're all doing, like, hundreds of millions in gross sales. Okay. Now you don't get to keep the gross sales, but I think you could do this in a way that works. So, like, the guy who created Hamilton, Lynn, Manuel,

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Whatever's name is? Yeah. But did the, did the author get paid too on that one?

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So he gets so this guy Lynn, who's the creator of it, He, has like a seven percent royalty or something like that. Wow. So he's made, like, tens of millions of dollars off of the the profits. They actually crowdfunded the thing. So what they did I don't have the full story in front of me because I'm just trying to say this off top of my head from from memory, but I think what they did was to raise the money to create the thing. They had, like, a bunch of patrons basically chip in money and they all get to keep a profit share after a certain amount of money had been recouped. And so that investment has been paid over, like, ten times. So if, again, if I was hospitalized, I'd be like,

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There's web three shit going on. Interesting.

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A lot of people flush with cash buying into shit. Okay. Cool. Digital tickets, NFTs. Okay. What can I do with this? And I would basically

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raised ten million dollars

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through an NFT pre sale

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of the show and,

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in different tiers, like some of the tickets have backstage passes attached to them. Some of them don't. Whatever I said you're saying. And and I would I would just let people buy, buy this, I'd raised ten million dollars. I'd use the ten million dollars to go into a bunker to create whatever the health, Hamilton black black people is. And then I would Hamilton. Brown people for Indians.

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Oh, yeah. Sorry. Not black people. Brown people. So then I would take that show on the road and I would just try to I would be like, yeah, I know it's hard, but, like, being a successful stand up comedian was also like a point one percent success rate or whatever.

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You know, to get to where he's at. So, like, yeah, you you wanna get to the point one percent success rate, but this time with a superior business model that,

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doesn't require your face on stage. Saying the jokes.

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Yeah. I think that's sick. I think that's a that's a great idea. I think that actually that's wonderful. I think and that could be incredibly creative creatively fulfilling.

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I wish I had said it on the spot. It's like one of those when you're in an argument, and then, like, later, you're in the gallery. Oh, fuck. I should have said that. That's what happened to me. But luckily, we're still hanging out at that moment, so I was able to tell them you know, then.

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This is a cool idea. I think in the next couple episodes, what I'm gonna do is I'm actually gonna bring in, I'm gonna do some research on the Broadway business.

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Or like, I don't know, theater, I guess, what do you call it? Theater. Yeah.

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It's actually an interesting idea. I was always curious because American idiot basically, they did this. So Billy Joe Armstrong wrote Green Day wrote American idiot, the album, the song. They turned it into a,

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a rock musical

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Right. You you didn't have to be there. They didn't have to be there. You know? Exactly. And they got paid a lot from it. Book of Mormon. Let me see how much Book of Mormon has made.

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Mormon. Right in here.

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Five hundred million dollars has been the gross ticket sales of book of Mormon. And then if you did something like a Hamilton or like a lion king or whatever, you could take that same IP, those characters. You have merch. You have, like, other

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that IP is a key is you gotta own the IP.

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And,

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you know, so so I think, you know, when that when book of Mormon launch says it was bringing bringing in nineteen million per month. So, like, I don't know what South Park generated lifetime, but, like, I bet it's kind of, like, on par with that. Or, you know, I guess South Park is probably a bigger success.

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Yeah.

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Oh, wow. South Park I okay. Just in twenty I didn't know this happened. Actually, it looks like a couple months ago, the south park creator signed a nine hundred million dollar deal for more episodes for for six years,

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with Viacom CVS. That's insane. I didn't know that. That's actually amazing.

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That's amazing. Right now is the best time ever to be a like a production company or an IP holder. And we said this a long time ago. Remember I said someone needs to there's all these platforms now. You got I at the time, it was Netflix, Amazon Prime, and then I said Disney Plus was gonna come out. It hadn't come out yet.

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And then there was, like, you know, there's Hulu. There's all these different platforms. Apple TV plus came out.

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They all want original content. They're all hungry for content, and they are betting billions of dollars, budgeting every single year to buy content. I think

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Netflix or Amazon or something. Like, they're paying like six billion dollars per year for content,

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for new content production. And so it is the best time ever to be a seller of content the time, we had said somebody should create YC content.

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Basically, the way that Y Combinator helped produce software startups, and it just said, hey, two engineers. Okay. You're twenty one years old. You Sanford. Alright. Come here. This is essentially like a business school, but you're gonna create a little business. And, you know, maybe you can sell to Facebook or Google or you'll end up becoming the next Airbnb. You'll go public.

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I think the same thing with the content where you would come in as two kind of, like, creatives.

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You have a pitch for an idea of a show you wanna create.

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You have three months to basically create the sizzle reel or the pilot or whatever. And then there's a demo day with a bunch of buyers from all the big streaming platforms, and they just buy options on your shit. And, I just think that's a beautiful I still think that's a great business idea, and it's only been proven when South Park signs a nine hundred million dollar deal with with CBS

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Shonda Rimes. I think signed signed a couple hundred million dollar deal with Netflix to produce six shows.

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Reese Witherspoon sold her production company, which didn't even have that like For like a billion for like a billion dollars.

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Like, this is, you know, this is tech startup money that's being sold for for TV content, which is amazing. So, you know, that's a that's a It's way more fun than building software.

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Way more. Way cooler.

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Way cooler for than that. And I think today has someone has also announced his production. He created a production company today. He announced it like a hundred I think it's called hundred eighty six k productions or something like that, which is smart. Again, like, Once you see Reece witherspoon and other people's production company selling, and we had Rob Deer Dick on. I think he said he sold his production company for two hundred something million dollars. He said that he I think he said he's walking away with a hundred. Him personally.

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Yeah. So, like, I think, you know, at least, let's say at least a hundred million, probably closer to two hundred million. He sold his production company, which basically just produced shows for MTV.

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That's a great business to be in, and I think it's only gonna get better for, like, this kind of five year period. And then these platforms are gonna go away. Like, Paramount Plus

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and, you know, like, Quibi died. You know, Paramount Plus. What the fuck is that? That's good. Good. I love Paramount Plus.

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Why do you love Paramount? What what's the one show you love on there? There's gotta be one.

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They have, like, a lot of documentaries and shit. Paramount, it's, like, old, older. It's, like, old school a little bit. Or, like, peak You are you subscribed to peacock? Hell, yeah.

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Oh my god. It's a peacock, dude. Peacock. I literally was just when I was laying in bed, when I wasn't feeling good, I watched the office on peacock Pecock is the only place that you can get the office. BDC's one. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You could you if the office and parks and rec, that's the only place you can get it. And then I so I I use it for parks and rec, the office, and AP Bio. Or have you seen AP Bio? No. I don't know what that is. It's like with the class I took It's like the main guy from it's always sunny. You know, Dee's brother, Dennis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's sick.

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But peacock's good, man. Pock is just an it all costs so much money. It all that stuff. I was looking to shit on one of them. I thought Peacock was safe, but, I guess No. Peacock's cool dude. Sponsored by Peac, I guess. I don't know what's going on here. I pay pay for all of them. Free subscription.

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You wanna do so. Let's dude, you have so much stuff here. Let's just bet bang through it. Oh, yeah. Let's do one. Okay. So let's do

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Do this tweet thing.

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Okay. Let's do this tweet. So this guy, Suhail,

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who created

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Mixpanel,

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and now he's creating mighty, which is a cool company. Have we talked about mighty, by the way? Yeah. Mighty browser? It's pretty awesome. I think we talked about it. So let's let's skip that for now. Anyways, good entrepreneur

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cool guy, whatever. He tweeted this thing out,

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and, my tweet's not loading right now. But I think it was something along the lines of It's a What's a company you'd start if you had more energy, time, or a lot more money?

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Right. So which is basically like if you took away your bullshit ass reasons, What's the thing you really should be working on right now? And I find that to be a very interesting question. I have another question that's similar to that. So maybe we'll do both these questions today. So I went through the replies, and I wanna read you

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five of my favorite replies, and I want you to just give me a gut reaction

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Hell, yeah, hell no, or I don't fucking get it.

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Okay. So the first one came from Gary Tan, who's a you know, big shot investor guy.

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First investor in coin base made like a billion dollars on that. So he he said a reference check network know what that means just when I say just that? Yeah. Yeah. So,

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well, the problem being solved is how to get, like, if he's gonna want to invest in someone, does anyone know is this person,

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honest?

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Right. Or you're hiring somebody and you wanna know, okay. Yeah. You worked at this place. How do I get a reference check? So normally today, you asked the employee

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They give you three names. Of course, those are the three people that are

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only gonna say good things, which is kind of annoying in the first place. So you can't get really get the right people. Then you kinda have to bug them no real incentive for them except for to maybe help out their their ex employee. And then you have to think of whatever questions you're gonna ask. Most people ask pretty poor questions, but there are better ways of doing it. And in the end, you're just trying to get this fuzzy picture of, like, you know, is this person any good or not? So that can be done better. And I think he had some solution in mind, which is, like, something on the blockchain, which is just like,

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you are able to, like, I'm able to have people who are linked to me. Somebody can go and request a reference from them. Maybe there's a little payment made. I'm not sure. And then they share information, but it's not publicly shared. It's just shared privately with me. Given the context of, you know, who who's who's the employee and what what this this job is. So I thought that that was alright.

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Thought it was a really specific one. I thought was cool because there was a lot of, like,

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I'd solve clean energy. And, like, I don't really know what to do with that idea. Like, It's not that that's a bad mission. It's just like what the fuck am I supposed to say about that. Okay. Somebody else said create the largest employer of high school students in the US. What do you think of that? Sick.

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Sick. Yeah. I mean, that's, like, that that sounds awesome. Yes. Yeah. I mean, what what is that now? McDonald's?

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Yeah. Like, I mean,

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I mean, in that Yeah. Probably, honestly, I guess. I it might be like McDonald's. I don't know what that would be. I talked to these guys who were building a company. I forget what it was called. You probably know what it was But it's basically like an id indeed dot com, but it's meant for teens, and it looks like TikTok and, like, Panda Express and,

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McDonald's and,

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like, PAC Son were all advertising on it and you could, like, scroll through and, like, a job opportunities. Yeah. I wanna say it was called like peach something or like lemon something or something like that. I don't remember. I don't remember, but, Panda Express was, like, spending a ton of money on it.

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And so, anyway, yeah, I think that's cool. I think it's a great idea.

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It's a great idea. I think it's a great prize to go for I actually would say that this is like an interesting framework, which is who do you want to employ?

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A hundred percent. I've been saying this for a long time, which is anybody who could figure out how to employ the stay at home mom workforce,

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it's gonna make billions of dollars. So if you just work backwards from, there's a bunch of moms who are at home, They wanna earn a little extra income. Doesn't have to be a ton. They wanna maintain flexibility of being able to stay at home and work not like necessarily a fixed number of full time hours or the same hours every day, who can solve that problem? And, there's only one example that I know of that solving that problem. I don't know if you know any.

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For moms? Yeah.

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Maybe user voice dot com. I think they do it. User testing. User testing dot com. The one I was thinking of. Oh, is it really? My mom my mom worked for them. Yeah. So Oh my god. That's so funny. I knew about it. What a rate of thing that we both knew that.

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So I would say so you just tested dot com's amazing company, by the way. So you just pay someone to, like, go through website. Public, by the way.

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How cool is this? They just went public. And my mom stock. And my mom was like

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Well, say what it is.

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So user testing, basically, it's a service where I have a app or a website. I wanna know

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where it's confusing for users, like, design makes sense to me. But, like, sure enough, when you when somebody else is using it, they're confused. They can't find the thing they want. And they just record your mom, like, scrolling through the site. So they have army of testers, which is just all the requirement is be a normal person. You have we do not even want you to be highly skilled. Like, you're supposed to represent the average customer. So they have a bunch of people. They send them a little camera that,

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that records their finger on their phone, basically, records them, like, and they just talk out loud. So so the you give a task, you say, like, you know, find a Christmas gift for your dad and put it into your cart and they're like, okay. I'm looking for the gifts for dad section. I don't see it.

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Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, they don't see the button that says menu. Oh, there's the menu.

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Dad, dad, oh, it's men's men's. Okay. I'll I'll click men's.

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Yeah. I don't get how this is sorted. Oh, this is by new release. And you just talk through what's confusing to you. And that fifteen minute video goes to the company and the company gets to watch it and they get to share it internally. They're their researcher basically shares with a designer or the engineer to pay, like, three hundred dollars for it. Right?

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No. No. Each test is, like, twenty five dollars or thirty dollars. And then,

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and then now it's all switched to subscription. But originally, it was, like, twenty five, thirty dollars a test. The tester gets ten bucks for doing the test. And the company kept, you know, fifteen, twenty bucks. And so the tester's like, cool. I could do, like, four of these in an hour. And so a, like, a a bid would come online. Oh, Potle wants you to test their new mobile menu. And you would just have to go quickly say yes, and then it do qualify. They're looking for women, you know, age forty to fifty five in the US. And you're like, yeah, great. That I qualify. I could take this test. And that's a billion dollar company now. It's market cap is over a billion dollars. Did your mom get paid? Did they give her shares? Yeah. It's awesome. So, basically, my mom was she first started off as a tester, then she got hired by the company to review the other testers, because you have to do quality control. So she became, like, she would watch the test and give feedback to the testers. I'm like, hey, your audio sucks or, like, you're mumbling or, like,

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you didn't follow the instructions of the test.

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One more strike and you're out. Of the testing pool. And so that was her job, and she was the oldest person in the company, I think. So she was, like, my mom's, like, sixty three now. So she just retired this this year. So she was there at sixty two years old. My mom, like, had slack and, like, knew how to use all, like, Jira. She knew what a Jira ticket was. Like, it was crazy. My mom. I'm like, who knew? And

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she got some shares, and she had always told me, like, should I I was like, yeah. You want the shares for sure.

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And then she would tell me, like,

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Hey, the the CEO did it in all hands. He said this, this, this. Is that good? I'm like, yeah, it sounds good. Like, this company's doing well. I should have bought secondary stock in the company during that time because I had, like, basically inside info of, like, this company is pretty good. It's a good quality company.

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And I was a user of the service as well. So it goes public the other day. Like, the, like, two weeks ago,

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And I'm like, mom, how many shares do you have? And she goes, looks in Carter. She's telling me to share. I'm like, mom, you made a hundred fifty thousand dollars off of it. No way. And then she's like, yeah. Because her strike price was super low. She was there for, like, four or five years. And, so I was, like, that's amazing. That's, like, like, that's the my mom is so happy. Yeah. Like, I Good for her. That's bad house. Money. And so, like, this is why I think this model of who do you wanna play is actually interesting because

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It's actually

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there is two for two reasons, it's motivating. So, like, the fact that, like, they are employing,

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most, like, I have no idea. I'm just gonna make this up. If it's, like, mostly women stayed at home for a long time and now they wanna get back to it. That's, like, incredibly motivating. It's like, look, we're serving our employees. Yeah. It's very noble. It's cool. Let's say you wanna hire,

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ex cons or something. It's like, look, this is interesting or we're gonna hire a bunch of sixteen year olds and it's gonna be the first job. We're gonna train them how to be,

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men and women and prepare them for the rest of their lives. It's actually incredibly cool. It's fascinating. There's one,

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I wanna look up the name. Give him a shout out here. So it's higher

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you hire a military

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wives as eas. That's awesome.

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It's called

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And it it also helps with expectations.

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You know what you're you you what's it called? Squared away. Squared away. That's cool. This is a woman. I think I think her story is that she, I I'm assuming She was in this position. I don't really know. But basically it's military spouses.

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And I was like, this is a great this is a great idea, because

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you know, this is US.

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These are US employees. They want this work. They,

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yeah, you know, they it's great to provide for their family while, you know, the husband's away. I think it's awesome. And,

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And it it it it helps significantly with expectations because then user testing knows We're mostly gonna be hiring sixty year old or fifty year old, women who don't have, probably a ton of experience with Slack and Jira. Now we know what we're getting into. Right. We know processes. We know how to hire. The culture is good. They all get along because it's like like mindedness or if we're hiring a ton of seventeen year old high school kids, like, we know here's the deficiencies and here's where they kick ass or if we're hiring guys out of jail, we know, like, here's where they're gonna struggle. Here's we're not gonna show. So that's What are what are some other great great ones on here? That's a good one. It it's kind of vague, but pretty cool. I'll do two more.

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Okay.

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We'll we'll do one. VR therapy.

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So,

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VR is not there for, like, mainstream use cases, but an average person not coming home spending a couple hours of VR. There's a few, you know, there are some people who do it. They like to play games.

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But VR is really awesome for, like,

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for, like, training. Like, I know docter, like, medical schools buy it so that the doctor can be, like, in the operating room and they can make a highly lifelike simulation.

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And I think therapy is a good one too. So,

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being able to put a headset on and really, like, change your environment, change the state of mind, be able to go role play through scenarios or talk to somebody and feel like you're there with them. I think that's kind of amazing. And so I'm I look forward to seeing, like, VR with these like really specific high value use cases,

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until, like, the mainstream thing is ready. Dude, I'm down with that. I also think I could conquer a bunch of phobias like, with that. Right. So I'm down. I think that's cool. Like, I know that, like, athletes are doing this. So, like, you know,

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there's this great we we both love like, you know, UFC and MMA.

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And NFL is this way also, but there there's this phrase that Connor McGregor's coach always says, which is you wanna upgrade the software without damaging the hardware. So it's like, how do you train and improve

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without the without putting strain on the body hurting your body? Because training is so physically grueling.

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So one way that they're doing it in the NFL is VR headsets to the quarterback instead of just watching film,

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their first person

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reading the defense without having to go stretch, get their ankles taped up, go out on the field, potentially, you know, sprain a knee or get hit. It's like They get to they get to read practice reading the defense and all the different coverages just in VR. And then when they get out there on the field, like, it's same first person point of view, turn being able to turn your head and you're you only sing parts of the field. Like, it's, like, pretty much like a one to one recreation. I think that's kind of awesome. I wanna know which company is doing that.

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I'm sure there's a company doing that. My favorite videos on YouTube to watch right now are they take folks who play,

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simul racing sims, so racing simulations with VR sets, and they have these, like, amazing setups at home that are, like, ten twenty, fifty thousand dollars, and then they go and put them in a race car. And, they do real No. They do really well. You know, the it takes him, like, in all the videos I've seen, it takes him five, ten, twenty minutes to, like, get used to the noise and get used to,

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like the smell and just the the the slightly different sensation, but they pick it up super fast. And so as guys, who have actually never raced before, and they get them out there and they give them the fast cars, and they pick that shit up. It's pretty amazing.

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Yeah. Like, I think even stuff as boring as sales. I think you could practice sales in a much more lifelike way.

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I know that teachers are doing this for, like,

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how to talk to your student about if they're feeling depressed or if they're being bullied. It's like, you sit there. A student walks in. You can see their face. They're saying something. And then you have to react, and then you have to, like, you kinda, like, choosing what to say live. It's it makes it you get to practice before you go do the real thing. That's cool. Any other good ones?

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There was a couple other ambitious ones. So there's a terra formation one. We've talked about this before, which is taking just deserts on the

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on earth and turning them into, like, rain forest, basically, turning them into four forest, like, putting creating a green oasis of trees there. And, like, that cleans up that sucks up a bunch of carbon dioxide from the environment. So it cleans up, you know, the the air as well as, like, turns it into livable land. And so, like, if we can learn how to terraform, which is basically, like, turn,

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you know, unlivable land into livable land,

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That's gonna help earth, but it'll also help when we finally do make it to Mars, and we need to turn that into a hospitable place. We're gonna need to know how to do terraformations. I thought that was kinda interesting. There's another one like that. Like, drone based wildfire fighting. So, like, sending in drones to put out wildfires. I think that's pretty cool too. I think that's great. Those are really neat. What

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What's what's another one? What's this legal question for five million dollars?

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This I thought was cool. Alright. So there's so as you know, I'm a TikTok

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binger nowadays.

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And TikTok is the only social media that, like, I

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when I leave it, I feel better than when I came in. Everything else, like Facebook, feel awful at the end. Instagram, I feel like, oh, man. My brain brain is rotting. Twitter, I'm like, I was a waste of time just dealing with a bunch of people's bad thoughts. And,

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TikTok is really

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I I cannot believe how much I enjoy it. Like, it's it's entertainment. It's entertainment,

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but there's of education. Like, I learned a lot of shit off TikTok. Now it's all little life stuff. It's like,

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you know, like, I don't know, stupid examples, but, like, hey, if you ever take a photo and you see that you know where you're, like, when you take a photo, your eye can have, like, a red, like, you know, you look kinda the evil, like, the camera has that flash or whatever, like, a red dot. If that's ever white, you should go to the doctor.

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Because there's actually, like, a a very, like, there's a chance that that's a very bad thing. And then this guy was replying saying, actually, I had heard that. I saw him a photo like the end of that went to the doctor. I chose I had eye cancer. He's like, I actually have my eye removed, but, like, it saved my life that we found it early.

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And, I don't know. It's just random shit. That to, like, you know, just quickly seeing, like, how an avocado gets to your door. It's like, oh, cool. This farmer farmer TikTok is dope. Like, parenting TikTok is great. It's like, oh, when your kid is just not listening,

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How many times have you done this? I'm like, yeah. Fuck. That's me. And they're like, here's a better way to say it. And I'm like, thanks. You know, parent I never had to teach me how to do this really important thing in my life. You know, learn a little shit. So,

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anyways, I was on it, and there's this account called legal baddie.

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Legal baddie is just like some hot lawyer. And she's like, here's my question for you. She goes,

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if I told you that you were gonna make five million dollars a year is your salary. Regardless of what you do. So you're just you you were gonna work thirty, forty hours a week. You're gonna make a fixed rate of five million dollars a year. What would you choose to do as your work? Like, you still have to work to get it. What would you choose as your job?

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And, obviously, this is, like, you know, a hidden question of kinda like What do you actually really enjoy to do if money wasn't an issue?

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And so and but you still had to work. Right? So there's one of, like, oh, if I had a hundred million dollars, well, then I probably Maybe it wouldn't work at all. Like, maybe I would just do blah blah blah. This is, like, you have to work to earn this. But no matter what job you do, gonna earn the same amount. So which job is By the way, I'm looking at her profile. I love legal baddie. I love this woman.

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Why?

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Does her look? What do you like? She's just like, She's a baddie? She's she's this one is a lawyer. Is that her her stick?

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Yeah. She's I think she's a lawyer. Otherwise,

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I just think it's Maybe it's legal mean something else. I don't know what's going on. If this when she's nineteen, then that's when she's the only First Jen lawyer from UCLA law. I think it's amazing. She's probably making more money off TikTok.

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And, like, she's like, I like I like I I particularly like it with women, but I like it with men too where they,

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talk about, like, cool shit, like, passing the bar exam or whatever. But then, like, like, she's got a whole bunch of nail shit. I I always think it's cool. We're like, you can break that barrier of like smut

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and cool stuff and also like legitimate,

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life helping content. I always thought that was cool. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I'm with you. She has five hundred thousand followers on,

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on here. You know, like, you know, her top videos have Yeah. She's like doing, like, like, purposely hot girl stuff. And then also, like, telling you how to get into law school. I always think I always think that's cool. Law school and then downer dog, then back to quick bar exam tip, and then back to my favorite name. And, like, here's, like, a bit here's, like, a a pretty racy bikini video of her. Right.

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So, yeah. She knows what she's doing. Right? Like, let's credit where credit is due.

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She is giving the market what it wants. She's a differentiated

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thing. Alright. She's not just one of the, like, kinda like TikTok, hot girl, and a bikini, or whatever.

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Like, she layered it with

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another, like, that what would the the skill stack as you call it. Right? How rare is that? There's There's not a lot of lawyers on TikTok. There's not a lot of hot girls.

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Both, she might be the only one. Right? So she's competing in a pool of one. And there's this video of her talking in front of, like, C span, like some type of

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press I love this. Anyway, I love her. So what's the question? Five million dollars. What would your job be? Yeah. What would you do for your job if you were, for sure, gonna get paid five million dollars? What would you just choose to do for that thirty, forty hours a week? What's your answer?

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I wanna hear yours first. I don't know what comes to mind.

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Five million dollars a year, and you have to have, like, a forty hour a week job. Right? Yeah.

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Definitely something involving, like, charity. So, like, something involving

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not making money. So if I can get five million dollars and all you have to do is, like, spend time, like, running a dog shelter

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or,

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I would do that in a heartbeat I could pay five That's not what I thought you were gonna say. If I could do a five million dollars to, like, run, like, a dog rescue, I would do that in a heartbeat or to help inmates ex inmates buying jobs. I think that would be exciting. So or even, like, people, like, everything we just discussed about helping,

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stay at home moms get get employment anything that involves helping people and not making money, I would do that.

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Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Mine's kinda similar. Mine's kinda boring. I would I would probably teach Like, I just love teaching. So,

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I would teach. Now the question is what would I teach? I think I would teach kinda like business slash life stuff to people who

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wanna actually, like, they're really motivated to have a great life and have a great, great, like, kind of business career. And so those are the people I like hanging out with the most. And that's the thing I like doing the most is basically

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learning shit and then just,

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you know, packaging it up and then teaching it to others and answering questions, you know, talking things through, basically, with people, figuring stuff out. So I think that's probably what I would do, but I feel like, you know, your dog shelter thing made me think, oh, maybe there's an even more lightweight

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just pure enjoyment. Like, maybe actually, I know what it would probably be. I would be like a, I pre I'd be a basketball coach or I would be like a,

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like, whatever the f minus basketball league is. Like, I'd be a basketball player. Because I'm, like, what's the thing that I have all yeah. Most fun doing is playing basketball role and, like, second best would be coaching a basketball team. This woman, legal baddie has another question. Would you rather have ten million dollars today or a hundred million in five years? That's the easiest question ever. Which one would you take? A hundred and five. Yeah. Exactly. Hundred and five is is is great.

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It gets if it's fifty, I think it's a lot closer. It gets a lot closer at fifty because fifty could turn into a hundred and five years in a bowl market. Ten ten will turn into twenty, but also you got to have ten now. And you didn't have to wait five years of your life, which is, you know, pretty significant.

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But, yeah, I I think my answer is I'd be on some Gordon bombay shit and I'd I'd go do my mighty ducks thing with some, like, you know, high school team. I think that's a good answer.

40:58

You wanna do a few more? Let's do something else. Let's do it. Let's do a couple ideas. So business idea. Alright. Problem I just ran into,

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sending a gift to your production partner or your factory partner,

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overseas.

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Okay. Sending gifts in general is hard. Sending gifts overseas even harder,

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because, like, just, like, the act of mailing things and, like, oh, I wanna send them, like, you know, bottle of wine for Christmas or what it's like, I can't mail that. How do I do this? I gotta go look up UPS as like alcohol shipment, you know, rules and make sure it doesn't crack and all this So I I was searching. Like, I'd like to send my factory a gift in China. Is there just, like, a version of DoorDash in China? I could just, like,

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go look at what they have, push a button, and they'll just deliver it to them. And, like, boom. It's done.

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And I actually found this, like, really junky website,

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I'm gonna find,

41:49

find the name of it.

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But basically, I found this, like, old school looking craigslist looking website, and it was we send gifts to your business partners in East Asia.

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And I was like, that's all we do.

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Browse.

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Here's, like, fifty gift baskets. Ranging from, like, balling out to, like, oh, we just met. And, you know, you wanna spend forty dollars, you wanna spend four four hundred dollars. You could you could pick And they just say, great. What? And then their address field is, like, formatted for Chinese address. It's, like, you know, like, it's, like, it just it's optimized where you have confidence that they will actually deliver the goods, and I'm not gonna have to worry about logistics. I'm just gonna be able to put in some money, and I'm gonna have a thoughtful gift to my factory partner. So I like this idea because Okay. There's probably some amount of people like me that are searching for this. Like, oh, okay. It's Christmas. I wanna get a gift for my business partner. But Do they not have Can you not order an Amazon thing and send it to China?

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No. I don't think so. I don't I don't know. Maybe I maybe I could have just done something as simple as that. I don't think don't think so, but maybe there's, like, maybe I needed to go on taobao and, like, figure that out. Yeah. But that's a pain in the ass because I don't even know what a pain in the ass is. Exactly. This was like pay with PayPal. You're done. And I was like, great. This is what I wanted. And it was also, like, organized as a gift. So it wasn't just like an an item where they're just gonna get it in a shitty Amazon box. It's looks like a gift. It's in a gift cat hair package,

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which is nice. That's like the the goal of what I was trying to do. It's like edible arrangements to China is what I was trying to do essentially. So I sent it and,

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and I was just thinking, you could just do this and then do, like, cold outreach to, like, the one million Shopify stores and be like, hey,

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You know what's a good idea? You should send your your factory, you know, your your your manufacturer a gift basket. A gift basket. And, like, you know, it costs you bucks. It goes a long way. Know, these people, you know, they're the key to your business and study shell blah blah blah. And gifting is a big thing in China. It shows respect. Don't be rude.

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And, like, you could do that three times a year. Like, oh, it's That's great. Chinese new year. It's whatever else. And I think just through outbound, you could create like a, like, probably like a one million dollar a year revenue business, maybe three million dollars a year in, like, two weeks. I think you could create that. So our listen to this crap. So So the other day, we got a mattress delivered to our front door. A Xynos mattress. It's huge. And it had Sarah's name on it. I go, Sarah, why'd you order a mattress? I didn't order a mattress. And I'm like, we gotta find out who set this mattress because we can't open this up because if you open it up, it's a pain in the butt. We're just gonna keep maybe send it back, or we'll sell it for, like, two hundred dollars or give it to a friend. Yes. There's like a heavy ass huge box. Huge. That you can't open, and you don't know where it came from. Yes. And it says Zyna. So I know it's a cloud mattress. I don't even know what size of mattress it is. Okay? I gotta open it up. And she posts on Twitter and Nick Huber, sweaty start up, says that was from me.

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And and I go, oh, very funny. And he goes, no, that was seriously from me. I, we wanted you to know I invested into his storage business. Yeah. And he said, we wanted you to be able to sleep well at night knowing that your money is,

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like, being taken care of. And I was like,

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Well, I appreciate the sincerity. That's lovely.

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Yeah. Who the hell has a, like, I don't have, like, a spare.

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An un mattress bed. Yeah. Like, I don't have an un mattress bed. Like, what were you thinking? Like, maybe a blender would have been cool or, like, just chocolate, like, like, like, like A pillow. On pillow?

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Yeah. Like a fancy pillow. I could use another one of those. He gave me an extra mattress. And so we've been texting our friends, like, anyone need a mattress? He he created a pain in the ass for you. Yeah. So, like, dude, just send me chocolate covered nuts. They're you know what I mean? Like,

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Give me, like, like, some flavored, like, some weird fruit or something. I don't want a fucking mattress. He sent me a mattress. I've got this huge mattress in the front door. Sound problem. And I've got guests coming on Friday, and I'm like, look at, like, a redneck with your mattress on my front bed. We have a bed. They're staying in the bed that's already in the guest room, and I'm, like, look like an idiot. I look like a country bumpkin with just a mattress on my front door. And like, oh, just ignore that. We'll get rid of it. And so, I'm on board with better gifting. Nick Huber, I this will make it to you. I I really appreciate the the gesture though. It was very nice.

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But, like, maybe, like, peanut butter cups and, like, chocolate covered nuts, and, like, some chocolate turtles would be more sufficient.

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I love it. Alright. So that's one quick idea. The factory gift idea with the outbound outreach to every FBA and Amazon seller. And I I saw a Shopify seller, and I think you could I think you could side hustle your way into a million dollars a year doing that. Okay. Here's another,

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random thing. Have you, have you ever seen,

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EMF protected pants?

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Is that for your computer on your balls? Is that your phone? Yeah.

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No. It's e m f. It might be e m something else, electromagnetic, whatever,

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radiation between I'm on board with this though. I hate, like,

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I I don't know. It's EMF. The studies, I I don't know exactly what it is, but, like, basically, having your laptop on your lap and that heat is not I I don't know if it's radiation or what it is. It like has proven to kill your sperm. Another thing, like, wearing whitey tighties, you know, like tight underwear where your balls are against your body, that actually, kills your sperm because it Right. It heats your body up too much. Let them baby swing. You know what I mean? You can't you can't be you can't be you can't the birds gotta fly. Yes.

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Keep them in the nest.

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So I've I've noticed that there's a few people in my life who I they're like the canary in the coal mine. Like, they they kinda get really into stuff And I'm when they first say, I'm like, why are you even thinking about this? Why do you even care about this?

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You're you're one of these people, by the way, where it's like, dude, Sam just got really into fucking mobility.

47:24

And, like, you know, stretching. He's, like, I got really serious about, like, ripped dudes who wanna, stretch and be, like, super mobile, or it'll be, like, you know,

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He's on this kick about, like, really wanting, like, toughness challenges. Like, life is too good. He's too soft. So he's craving this, like,

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core primal challenge in his life. Is that just Sam being Sam? Actually, what it ends up being is, like, Sam being ahead of the curve by, like, three years, and it's what they can become gonna be proven to be, like, quite popular.

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There's a few people in my life that I liked that. My brother in law's like this. You're like this. My trainer I've learned is one of these people. Where

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he'll say something and he's like, you know, super into this thing. I'm like, I've never heard, like, he'll be like, oh, yeah, dude. I take Krayden.

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Like, oh, Kratum. Like, what the fuck's Kratum? Like, do you know what Kratum is? No. It's like, basically, so so he's so he's big into, like, these, like, kinda supplements, nootropics, which, like, you know,

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if the promise of them is amazing, but you, like, can't tell if they work or not. Like, people who believe in them, and like, oh, this feels great, but it's it's that thing we talked about before. It's, like, the best product in the world is CBD for dogs because Yeah. It's the best. You think you're giving them, you know, pain relief, but you'll you'll never know if it does anything. And, like, CB for humans is like that too, but the dogs can't talk. And,

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and so there's a whole bunch of these, like, kind of Nutropics or supplements that's like, oh, yeah. I take Lion's Maine. I take, like, you know, fucking milk of Magnesia. I don't know whatever. He bit just a bunch of random ass names. And then later, like, he said, he was telling me about, like, Tongali.

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And then doctor Hooverman came on. He's like, yeah, I don't do testosterone anymore. I do, like, I get it from these other, like, more natural herbs like Tongawi and whatever. Was like, dude, there's only two people in my life that I've ever said this name, Tonga Ali, and, like, it's these two people. And so I've just noticed he's ahead of the curve on a lot of these, whether it's like fashion, fitness,

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supplements, nootropics,

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you know, like, books that he's into.

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And so on the supplement side, he's, like, really this thing called Cratum.

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Which is kinda like a Advil.

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Like, you don't take it instead of you're taking a set of Advil. So it's, like, kinda, like, helps with your aches and pains without the side effects of, like, then, like, thin your blood or hurt your kidneys. Yeah. Like, you're bad for your liver, shit like that. Yeah.

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And,

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so anyways, I I think where I'm going with Okay. So he's like, oh, yeah, dude. He's got his fashion line coming out, where he's like making clothes. Basically, just like, I'm his only customer right now because it's like not released, but I just get to have a bunch of his shit. And I'm like, oh, this is amazing.

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He's like, yeah, the shorts on these, the pockets have, like, EMF protection. And I was like, what? And he's like, oh, yeah. Like, I'm big into, like, you know, just why not? Why not have EMF protection?

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And I was like, from what, like, he's like, yeah, your phones in your pocket all day is right next to your balls. Like, you just don't want that. You know, I wanna have kids. I I don't wanna have you having all this stuff there. And I'm like, I guess you're right. I guess I only It's pretty sick. That's a good one. It's so normal that everybody puts in the pockets are like, is there something to be worried about? And I call this Fuddware.

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Fudd, which stands for fear uncertainty and doubt. So, Can you make that up? Yeah. This is a general trend I've creating here called Fuddware. And I think that Fudware is gonna be anything that's like, oh, yeah. You know, like, blue blocker,

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like, light glasses,

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EMF

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radiation, proof pants,

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you know, it's like,

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you know, like and that's that's not to say that they're all, like, It's not to say that any of this is false. Like, it might be totally true, but it's basically preying on people that are when you tell them, oh, did you know that parabola? You should never have aluminum in your deodorant. And they're like, what? Illuminum. Am I gonna die? Alright. I'm never using old spice. I'll use native deodorant instead. It's like paraben free. It's like, what the fuck's a parabenum? But I I I guess I've heard parabens are bad for you. You know?

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Like, that guy who came on the show, he was like, oh, yeah. I don't drink out of plastic because, you know, phthalates. I don't drink out of plastic either. And it's like, Yeah. It's still super common, but the smart people I know are, like, starting to say this word phthalate. I never heard this word before, but I'm starting to hear this, and it tells me a bunch of people that as they become aware, they're gonna start to steer away. Or teflon

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pans.

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Right. Exactly. Like the nonstick or whatever. Yeah. So I think there's just a whole class of products that are just fudware. And you could just find the next fud of, like, what are people afraid of? It's like, oh, like, they want to do, like,

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UV cleaning of, their phone and their toys because UV kills, you know, COVID.

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And, you know, UV red lights. That's a great one, Fudware. That's fantastic. So a few more, like, the water filters. So there's those charcoal

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silver water filters that are everywhere. I think just Justin Mayer said he tried to get a built like a huge one. So all of his home water goes through with this thing. Yes. It has like a intense I asked him, I go, what do you have what do you do for water? He goes, I go way over, but I have like a twelve foot tall system that's filtering. Is it like a is it called like burp? It's called like burp Berkeley or Berkeley? I don't know what it's called. But when Rob Dyrdek was on, he said that too. He's like, I'm making shower head filter company. Because, like, oh, yeah. What if I found out that I'm showering and fucking toxic chemicals? Well, then I'm gonna buy this attachment that purifies it. Like,

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if you just put a little seed of doubt into my brain,

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I'm gonna be like, yeah. Why not? I'm just gonna get on the side of safety. And on in the same realm with that. And I actually I would have wanna look into this, but I think laptops on men laps is, like, a massive issue. Right.

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I I I, like, it it could potentially be quite big. You could just make a whole company just protecting men's balls from the not firm, like, you know, the modern day, you know,

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harm.

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It's like, yeah, here's a laptop tray that's like fucking made out of kryptonite. I was like, you can't pass through this. Here's your shorts. Put your pie put it in this pocket. It won't won't fry your balls.

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You know, wear this underwear,

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because, you know, your underwear has, you know, cotton phosphors? It's like, what's a cotton phosphor? I don't know. Sean just made it up, but it's bad for your balls. And so it's like Did you just make that up? That's good.

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Sound good. Right? Dude, I'm telling you that he it it does freak me out, like, having that heat, like, I feel it. And I'm like, oh, this is horrible for me. So I I I have, like, a pad. Like, you put a pad on my lap. There's a small you know, pomade. You need to apply to your balls every night, before you sleep because, you know, that when you sleep, gravity pulls your balls and it's bad for you. Like, how how can it make up endless number of ball Okay. Here's this one that I saw these guys launch and they advertised with us early on. And I was like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard are you guys even doing this? And now it's a billion dollar company, manscaped.

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Have you heard about manscaped?

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I have. I asked a buddy. I said, what's the one of the best investments in your portfolio? Are your best investments? And I thought he named some tech company, some cybersecurity company, he goes, oh, man scape. Just great. Because they raised, like, only a tiny amount of money, and they were worth, like, yeah, like, close to a billion dollars. Is it a billion dollar company you think? I I don't know. Something like that. It's worth it. They sponsored the UFC and that's a really expensive sponsorship and they sponsored a ton of stuff. If if you told me that they do, like, a hundred and fifty million in revenue. I wouldn't be surprised. I think it's definitely over a hundred million in revenue. For do you think it's over two hundred?

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I mean, I don't know. And I've I've never used one. I told I told Sarah to buy one for me because I've won one for my nose hair, and I think they have like Well, why did Sarah have to buy for you? Why why didn't you just buy she wanted a Christmas present for I told her on my Christmas, I was like, give me, like, the nose hair one.

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I think they have a nose hair one. But,

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like, I The colored one. Is it all in one? I don't mind using They would give you that cover. They give you that air cover to be like, yeah. I just wanna trim my beard in my nose. And, oh, what do you know? Is it all your attachments? Maybe your boy will start manscaping. Yeah. I'm cool with share, like, using that on my face and I'm no. The the the nose one's different.

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But but the the landscape like buzzer,

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it it's just a normal I think it's just a normal buzzer. I I don't know how it's actually different than a normal hip. Much different. And they crushed it. This cat I never would have a million years would have thought that this was gonna work. It sounded like a joke when it came out. I remember just being like, oh, that's a funny that's a funny joke. Of a company. Cool. Cool joke of the day for a startup. Yes. And they kill it. They sponsor all the major, like, boxing and UFC stuff. These guys are killing it.

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And it doesn't look so

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I'm on board with with with with,

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protect your balls. That's a good business. And Fudd is a phenomenal

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name. What's it stand for? Fudware.

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Fud is fear uncertainty and doubt. So they say this in the market a lot. Like, if people are like, oh, I heard China's gonna ban Bitcoin or, like, isn't it true that, like, you know, Satoshi was a, you know, part of the NSA. It's like, this is just fun you're spreading

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to get people to be uncertain and doubt and sell their positions.

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Yeah. That's great. Like compression socks. I I buy compression socks. So that's fudware. I have no idea if it works, but it's What it was it supposed to do? Compression socks, when you run, I have calf pain and Achilles pain all the time. Compression socks are socks that you pull really high up to your knees and they have a lot of compression on it and keeps your calves, calves tight. So if you're aware, like, compression shorts like that tight underwear for your thighs, it's like that for your calves and ankles.

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Gotcha. Okay. I like it. I dig it.

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Can we wrap up with one thing? Yeah.

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So recently,

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this Bitcoin thing,

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Craig Wright. I don't know much about it other than, like, one article I read. I guess he's an Australian guy, and he was being sued by this person who wanted a share of the money for who what what's the story?

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I don't know about his lawsuit, but I know about Craig Wright and that he basically, for a long time, has been claiming to be

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satoshi Nakamoto.

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So, well, he claims to be the creator of Bitcoin and then people who are smart in the community are like, there's no away. So people, but the this lawsuit basically, he's being sued by the spouse of someone. This this Craig Wright had a partner. The partner died and the spouse of the partner sued Craig Wright, and Craig Wright won the lawsuit. And in winning for what?

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She said that you owe me money because of this reason and that reason we created this. You and my husband created this thing together. You owe us some money.

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And in winning, I forget exactly how it worked, but in winning the case,

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the

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jurors said, well, no, you're satoshi and you worked on this alone.

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And so,

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like, in order for him to win in a weird, I don't know that exact details, but in order for him to win, they were basically saying, yes, we believe you're satoshi. Satoshi worked alone.

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So, okay, here's the here's the story. So,

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Kleinman versus Wright,

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the jury ruled that David Klein was relationship to KirkRite did not constitute a business partnership, meaning the estate was not entitled to a share of the Satoshi Nakamoto fortune,

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which right claims to have control over as the self reported creator of Bitcoin.

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The jury the jury ruled against right on the conversion account awarding

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awarding a hundred million dollars to climb in, what?

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A rule against. Right? Yeah. The so he said they got a hundred million out of I don't know because I thought he was celebrating. It was a little confusing, but the point was is that this, like,

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this legal team. Okay. They wanted billions. They didn't get that. But they got a hundred million against him for the unauthorized use of funds from Climate and Rights's shared venture, w and k info defense research LLC. Okay. I don't this is from something else. So did is this guy the guy who started it? That's about one of those. So so basically,

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so he claims to have invented Bitcoin.

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Then,

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there's a great clip, by the way, of vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum,

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co creator of Ethereum,

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on stage. And he goes, there's there's they were talking about it. And usually people, like, you know, like, in a in a conference panel, people are usually pretty, like,

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you know, they don't take shots at people, like, live there. And he just he just pops up because you wanna know what I think?

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And they're like, yes. We'd love to know what you think. He goes, he goes,

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He gives this, like, quick, like, two minute rant that just destroys Craig. Right? Where he's, like, I think if you're the creator of Bitcoin, you have a and everybody was saying you're not and you keep trying to tell people you are, you have to do is one simple thing. You just have to sign something with with Satoshi's wallet, and that will just show that you're him. And the fact that you're not doing that, like, the the, you know, he he calls something like some like, you know, oxum razor oxum razor or whatever, like, just some term like that. He's like, the simplest explanation here is that you're not satoshi because if you have a simple way to prove your claim and you do not prove your claim using the simple way, you cannot prove your claim. And, so he kinda just, like, shit on him right there. So who who crowd went wild? So who is this? You think that is he he's he's died or he's still quiet?

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The best theory is that it's,

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that is this guy Hal. I forgot his name is Hal, Halphinnie.

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This was so Halphinney was like a cryptographer.

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He received the first Bitcoin transaction. He was the, like, the the second wallet, and normally, like, what does a developer do when they test something? That's like, oh, I sent it from, like, Sean a to Sean b, like, my test account, basically. Like, that's how I do the first transaction.

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And,

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he was, like, very active in the forums, and then he died right around the time. He got ALS and died around the time that the last known time that Stoshi ever posted anything.

01:00:00

So, you know, it seems like Why wouldn't he tell

01:00:04

Do you think he

01:00:06

why wouldn't he, like, tell his wife or his family or, you know, like

01:00:10

because it looks like he has a wife on these pictures. Yeah. Well, a, maybe he did. And, b,

01:00:15

like, you know, some people are so mission driven in their thing in their thinking. And, like, you know, there was a there's a real genius of the idea of being like, I'm gonna have this as a pseudonymous name satoshi Nakamoto. I'm not gonna use my real name. Which means I'll never get the credit for being a genius if this works.

01:00:33

But also it, like, it's kinda like the parent dies so the child child can survive. It's like, The only way a currency like this could have really worked is if you couldn't point to the creator because then they would just attack the creator. They would say the creator has too much. They'd say this guy has ulterior motives. He has controlled. He is he's too powerful to, you know, he he's just the new the new bad guy. You know, okay. You're bad at the Federal Reserve and the government.

01:00:56

You know, now you're bad at this guy for for a private citizen being in control of this. Can you think this is him?

01:01:02

I personally think it's him.

01:01:04

Like, I've looked into a couple times about, like, what who are the most likely candidates?

01:01:08

You know, is it a group of people?

01:01:10

Was it the government themselves?

01:01:12

Was it one person, and it does seem like it was,

01:01:16

like, you know, I guess, like, I shouldn't say it does seem like it. There's really no evidence

01:01:20

of the existing evidence that's there. This is kinda like speculative data point you have, how Phenny's fits the story in my world view the best. So I think it's him. That's I love these mysteries. I I Which would mean that it's it's sort of gone. Like, his coins are locked up.

01:01:36

Unless he gave them to his wife. Unless he gave her the keys.

01:01:39

And, like, you know, and she and told her, don't touch it because it hasn't moved. Not not a single coin has moved,

01:01:45

ever.

01:01:45

And, you know, I think if he did, it let's say he did give her instructions, how would I give instructions? I would say,

01:01:52

I would probably not actually let her have it. I would say

01:01:56

this file is gonna be available to you on this date,

01:02:00

twenty years from now. And I would say, you know, follow the instructions inside I wouldn't even give her the opportunity to make a bad decision because I would say if these move before Bitcoin wins,

01:02:11

then it'll be This will be very destructive for it. Like, if the creator of Bitcoin starts to sell Bitcoin,

01:02:17

that will trigger, like, a huge sell off in the market. Because it'll be like, oh, the creator's alive. They don't believe they're selling their coins. Who is it? It'll create this, like, whole drama. It'll hurt the project. But has any money ever left his account? No.

01:02:30

Not a single satoshi has ever left his account. So then he would have had to have create a different account for her to live on or something. Yeah. Which could have easily happened. Right.

01:02:38

You know, at some point. But I you know, people can also see the ledger so they know who all satoshi sent the they know which wallet satoshi sent coins to.

01:02:46

And, some of them are, like, known identities, like, the other people that were in this, like, crypto, like, the Cypherpunk community that wanted to test out the project early on, But, like, you know, he very easily could have just had her set up mining, a mining rig. So it didn't even have to come from his account. He could just say, because he didn't give himself the coins. He mined the coins. Sure. It's just that mining was so easy at that time. So to, you know, she could be minor number eight.

01:03:09

You know, that mined some coins and that's it. That's she could live off that. Yeah. God, how Well, we we see, like, you know, house, Phoenix, what? How she living? Is she like in a in a forty million dollar home in Venice? I I don't even know if he I I mean, there's a woman with all these pictures with him. Like, it looks like a wife. I didn't even know anything about her. I just Googled. It doesn't say anything about the Wikipedia about his wife.

01:03:30

Oh, yeah. His wife raised yeah. So he does have a wife.

01:03:33

Yeah. I'd be curious. I'm looking at pictures of his house when he's dying. Like, pictures of him dying and he's in his home, it does not look fancy.

01:03:41

Yeah.

01:03:42

Yeah. Also ALS just looks so brutal, man. Yeah. It feels like the worst. Completely debilitated.

01:03:47

That's really tough. Yeah. So anyway, that's fascinating. We should do, like, an entire episode on that. That's this shit is so interesting to me. Yeah. I agree. We should we should just do the research of, like, okay. What is all the research that's out there? And, like, what's the conclusion? I think people are I'm fascinated by, like, this story. I think it's one of the coolest fucking out of straight out of a movie, but it's actually real life things that has ever happened. You know? I like that and silk road. But I think the silk road case is more cut and drive than anyone thinks. I think Ross did it. I think Ross did everything.

01:04:16

Right.

01:04:18

What's the what's the con what's the controversy? People think many people were running it, dred Scott pirate, whatever the the the what's the name? Dred pirates Roberts or whatever?

01:04:27

They're saying that that was multiple people and whenever I post about Ross Obrite,

01:04:32

people are, like, free Ross. And I'm, like, well, like,

01:04:35

he did kinda hire people to kill what I know, like, other people. Like, I don't know. Like Well, you have you seen the comments? So you have a YouTube video about your stories? Yeah. They hate and they're they're, like, they're, like,

01:04:46

there's, like, an army of people that love Ross and hate, well, they hate anybody that says anything bad. You didn't even say anything bad. I didn't say anything bad. I said I think he did it, but it, like, But, like, my thing is, like,

01:04:56

like, I mean, he's sold, like, he sold drugs. So there's some consequence to that, not life, but some consequence.

01:05:02

But if you did, like, murder for hire,

01:05:04

yeah, life is is definitely fair. If if you do it three times, totally fair. Right. And when, like, I read that book American Kingaign and I looked at some of the evidence and I'm like, yeah, there were some bad cops working on the case and those guys got in trouble. But It definitely seems like this guy did it. I don't understand how there's any shadow of a doubt. Right. By the way, Fran Finney's Twitter bio, and I'll we'll just leave it on this now. She she says I graduated from Caltech. I spent thirty five amazing years married to Halphany,

01:05:31

who lived with ALS in two thousand nine, two thousand fourteen. Currently living in Dubai. I vow to spend the rest of my life making him proud.

01:05:38

I thought that was nice.

01:05:40

Yeah, man. She seems like a sweetheart and turns out.

01:05:43

Turns out she, like happens to me. Drive like a Ferrari and a bugatti and, like, only wears Gucci.

01:05:51

That bad is for the rest of my life. Fresh ass with Gucci's. Yeah. Gucci lights.

01:05:55

Yeah.

01:05:56

It's just hilarious. You you see this, did you ever see that meme? You know, that guy, Hespula, the little, like, the little We love him. So he tweeted out this day. He goes, man, people say I had this, like, people always talk about my disability.

01:06:09

Did you see this meme? Yes. And what did he say? Yes. Yeah. I got disability to make that bread.

01:06:15

Make sure I've been holding a huge block of cash. It's like dis disability to make this money. I love that kid. He's not a kid. I think he's, like, twenty. Yeah. I don't know what to say. I'm gonna get canceled. Just trying to, like,

01:06:26

just try to describe anything about him without being offensive. So I'm just not gonna say alright. Let's roll. I'm out of here.

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