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That's a great idea. I'm glad I brought this up. I should do this. I love how you were, like, you gave me a great idea, but the thing you said was completely different than what I said. That's how that's how this works. That's how this thing works. That's
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a little yes and there for you. It's all my best friends out there.
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Alright. We're live, Sean. What are we what are we talking about? You're kicking it off. Well, maybe you should introduce yourself. I don't even recognize you because it's new year, new you. Am I right, Sam?
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Save me. New year.
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New year? Same shit as always.
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Yeah. Nothing nothing will change. I I have I didn't I purposely didn't set any goals this year. I'm just gonna go with the flow. What? Why? What do you what do you think? Well, I wanna talk about New Year's,
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resolutions and stuff. At first, I have to apologize.
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We did not put out a lot of content over the last week or so. Normally, who cares? No big deal.
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And I thought, well, you know, this is good. Let's take a little break. Spend time with the family,
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you're a new dad.
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I'm an existing dad. Let's just be quality home home bodies here and family men. Family first. Right?
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But the thing is about Family First is that the time I need podcasts the most is when I'm with my family. This might sound crazy to people who aren't podcast people,
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but I know there's other people like me out there who you love your family. You spend a lot of time with your family.
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A little too much time sometimes with your family. You need these little mini breaks.
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I was taking out the trash.
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And I was, then I had to, like, walk my dog. And I was, like, I went to my favorite podcasters channel, and they didn't have anything new for me. And I was like, damn, this is what I needed. I needed a little break from the family world just to go and escape. Who's your favorite podcaster?
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I like Bill Simmons. He's it's because I like to just listen to basketball stuff or or sports things. And so I will and I've been listening to him since, I don't know, two thousand and six or something. He's like the first podcaster I've ever heard.
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So I have this familiarity built up. And when there's not a new episode, I hate it. And I realized
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We're that person for some people out there. We are there. We are there, escape from family card or escape from the boring, you know, chore
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And I know that it is holiday time, but I bet people needed us more, and we weren't there. So next year, we will be there. That's that's my commitment to you. Guy out there who's who's run has to run errands and deal with a budget b s. We should have just done reruns because we have done a rerun and it been alright. Just our voices, actually, just ASMR of us saying not such as gibberish
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for hours.
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Did you have have you ever had seen this Louis c case get, like, or one of his bits from his stand up thing where he talks about being a dad. Now that that that was your dad. You're gonna start to appreciate this one joke.
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It's not even that funny.
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You know, some people are like, it's so true. That's that's hilarious. This is just it's so true. It's not even that hilarious. What do you say? When he talks about he's like,
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the greatest thirty seconds in the world. He's like, you know what the greatest thirty seconds in the world is? He's like, when you put your kid in the car and you've buck you get him into the car seat, you finally clip it all together,
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and then you close the door, and you have, like, thirty seconds while you're walking from their door back to your door, And that thirty seconds of silence and solitude is everything in life, and it's so true. This was the the first week that I experience where I was like, oh, a break would be nice because
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my my baby has been perfect mostly, but, like, she goes to, like, a week of growing and she'll cry more than normal. Mostly, she doesn't cry at all. And I remember there was day where she cried for, like, an hour. And I was, like, alright. I understand.
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Why why why people request breaks. Because before I was like, why would I ever wanna leave this today? I'm I'm getting so much dopamine from it. Now it was the first time that I experienced a break. So I'm slowly understanding some of these things.
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Well, did you know how chill I am? When my like, our our nanny will be like, oh, I'm sick or whatever. She calls out sick or, you know, hey. My my daughter's visiting from college. Can I have the day off?
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And, dude, I get I in my head, I'm like, yeah, of course. No problem. But in my soul, I'm like, enraged. I'm like, how dare you make me spend all day with my kids? How dare you? How I have to look after my own. Like, you know, this is an injustice that has happened to me that right now. You don't feel guilt? You don't feel guilt?
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You're like, the guilt being
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why am I so reliant on this person? I experienced that a little bit because we have a nightmare. I I'm past that. I've fully accepted that that is the way I need to live and that that is a necessity and actually a right of mine, a core a core human right, an American right of mine. By the way, Right up there next with Aioli, being just flavored mayonnaise. Nightners is beautiful rebranding. It's basically just
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the young woman who I have no idea what her credentials really are, but she just, like, plays on her phone while she lays on the couch next to my daughter. And when she cries, at this point, now only one night a week or one time a night, and she gives her a bottle, and then just goes back to sleep. And I'm basically paying someone a full time salary to live and sleep on my couch. Right. And because we call it a nurse, I think there's some type of medical component. It ain't. There is Right. It's it's called,
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it's called, like, sleep sitter. Yeah. It's a babysitter. We just pair, you know, to help with one one one moment while we sleep.
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It feel a little different than Night Nurse.
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Yes. Beautiful rebranding.
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By the way, I think that the Aioli for this is gotta be a co payer. The way. Like, what a word? What a fantastic word. Okay. We can move on. Yeah. O'pair's a a beautiful one too. By the way, do you we're thinking about getting an o pair And, I was like, wait. So we just get this, like, young twenty three year old who's just gonna be living at our home, and it's kinda weird. It's it's pretty weird. What do you think about it? It's weird. Right. Okay. So now I wanna talk about resolutions.
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So
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in the past, do you do resolution. You said you didn't do it this year. Is that part of, like, children's side? So so so what I do is I have four categories,
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and I named them all f because it's cute. So family fitness fun
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finances.
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So I'll usually have a finance goal of, like, I wanna make this much money. I wanna launch this thing. Do this. That's a business thing. Friendship would be the last one, and I was so excited for myself there. But, okay, finances works too.
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That that that's fun. That's fun. So forgotten fifth f. Okay.
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That's fun. So fun is like trips. I wanna do this with friends, whatever. Family is, you know, Sarah and I wanna achieve this thing together. We wanna communicate more. I don't know whatever it is. And then, fitness is, you know, this much weight lifted. This whatever. Normally, I do that. Right now, I've not set it. And I'm said I'm gonna do quarterly, but I'm not gonna start it for another month. Yeah. Oh, dude. I'm in the I'm on the I'm in the same boat. I'd have a very, very similar exercise that I do. I think mine are, like, you know, work, play,
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love and, you know, whatever, fitness or health, you know, stuff like that. My branding is is a lot better. You should do family fitness, fine. It's fun. Well, I just don't wanna use your thing now because I feel like,
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oh, I'm gonna do Sam's new year's resolutions today.
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Just kill me now. Alright. So,
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so so I agree with what you normally do, and I normally do the same, but
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I don't know why
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I had a extreme aversion to it this year. And so I looked up some alternatives to New Year's resolution. So the aversion I think came from
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A bunch of thread boys on Twitter, I think. Honestly, there's just, like, a lot of content on Twitter right now of people being, like,
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Just wrapped up the annual plan annual review of twenty twenty three in my predictions and plans for twenty twenty four. And I was like,
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Well, just just too much for me. I can't I I need to just get away from this. Yeah. And no one hits them. And and in general, I would say if I try to think of, alright, what is what is the new stuff I'm gonna do?
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It's such a small boy attitude
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to be like, yeah, I waited till the, I waited till the first.
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To do the things I wanted to do. It's like, no. I, like, anything I wanted to do, anything I realized I should do, a decision. I just made in in that moment and started doing it immediately. I just did it on November twenty first instead of January first. And so I think it's one of your alternatives.
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Okay. So
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a couple of terms. You tell me if you like these or not. So solve this on TikTok. This is definitely such a a sort of gen z approach to life. They go Here's resolutions,
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goals? Ugh.
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What are you? My dad?
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Bingo card.
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New Year's Bingo card. So here's here's how a New Year's Bingo card
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I I don't know how many group things are on a new bingo grid. I think it's like sixteen squares. So you just come up with sixteen, but also leave a couple blank if you can't think of Gen Z. That's how we roll.
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You just come up with some things that you might do this year. It's a maybe. That's a
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Michael, Michael, on a travel like, a backpacking through Central America.
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Might not, though.
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Might start dating somebody.
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Also find a loan. And that's blank.
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You just come you know, you come up with squares of things that might be fun to do this year. Got it. And then you just see if you do them. And if you do them,
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Bingo, you just try to shade it in. You you shade in the square and you see, yeah, you you get a bingo card, and it's a low pressure
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vision but it's like an actionable little vision board. And I was like, I think I kinda like this. By the way, on my bingo card this year, if I were to do it, I they're in Houston. They're doing a zero g flight, and it's five grand. And they take you up into this. Have you seen that? They take you up into, like, a seven forty seven that's, like, empty and it's, like, full of, like, pillows and you float for, like, twenty seconds at a time, that's gonna be on my bingo card this year. I'm I'm scared of it, but then I so I might do it. Might do it. What an attitude. What a what a new attitude. What a refreshing attitude to the new year. Right? So the gen z Bingo card.
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This data is wrong. Every freaking time.
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Have you heard of HubSpot?
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HubSpot is a CRM platform where everything is fully integrated. Well, I can see the client's whole history call, support tickets, emails, and here's a test from three days ago I totally missed.
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HubSpot, grow better.
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Here's another one. This has come from the, the psychology world.
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Here are my new year's
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anticipations.
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What? What is that?
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You just say things you're looking forward to this year? You just brainstorm.
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You just say,
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oh, man. I'm looking forward to that. That would be so fun. That would be amazing. And the reason why is the psychologists did a study, and they found that actually more
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joy is derived
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from the anticipation of an event
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from versus the actual event itself. And, like, I just had this with my kids for Christmas. Like, we did the elf on the shelf thing.
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And just in general, like, the build the whole build up to Christmas day and the idea of Christmas morning and opening up all your presents, like,
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I got twenty five days of joy out of that from them because
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the anticipation and then on the day of, you know, they woke up,
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They started ripping presents open. They didn't even know which one to play which toy to play with, and, and it was over like an hour. And then they were like, okay. Can we have cartoons with breakfast now? And I was like, yep. Alright. I guess back to the routine,
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and, and it was kind of done. And I just realized these people are right. New Year's anticipations
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might be a thing because
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Instead of planning and committing, like, some
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some
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brute alpha is saying I'm gonna do this. You just say, Oh, I can't wait to
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have x and x x experience. I can't wait to do y.
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And, that that might be a little bit more more fulfilling. What do you think?
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Eight. Alright. Eight. I give that eight. That's pretty good. Wow. Okay. I thought you were pretty Yeah. Bingo card. Bingo card is cool. And I you know, anytime you said, If you say I read a study that said this, it's like saying it's like when a restaurant has a sign that says world's greatest cup of coffee, I have a rule that if I see a restaurant that says world's greatest blank, I always go to it. That's my rule. Because I think if you have the audacity to say that, then I won't give you the I'll I'll try it. So that that if you say
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yeah. So, like,
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here hearing someone say, a study once said just makes me weak in the knees and gets me a hot bother. So I'm into that. You know the funny thing, by the way? So I saw that. And I was like You you didn't see a study on it. That that's No. There's I was like, who I was like, for the first time ever, I was like, yeah. I'll take the special Like, you know, the waiter reads the specials. You may have ever ordered the special. I was like, let me read the study. And I scroll down and it said University of Scranton And I was like, pretty sure it's a made up town from the office.
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I don't think Scranton exists. And so, oh, oh, Dender Mifflin came out with a study this year. So this is probably bullshit, but,
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nevertheless, that's that's where the study came from. Alright. Here's another one.
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There's this guy on, on Twitter that's He's made his brand all around the idea of obsession, you know, this guy? No.
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I wish I'd be a OCD guy. What's what's what is it?
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Basically it's like the good version of OCD. He's like, anyway, he's all about being obsessed. And so he goes, he goes, my he instead of New Year's resolution, he goes,
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my year of obsession. He goes, I believe that a one year obsession can change your life. That's awesome. That's an awesome sentence. Right? That's, like, a, actually, a pretty powerful sentence. I'm in. I read it. I was like, I'm in, and I closed the tab. I was like, I didn't wanna
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anything else you say is gonna make me like you less. Than that first sentence. Morgan Houssel, the guy we had on, he had this great quote. He said, people don't remember books. They remember sentences.
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And I try to make, like, memorable sentences That's a memorable sense. That's a beautiful sense. And I think that that is so true that one one year of obsession really can change your life. If you decide that this year, I'm gonna be obsessed x, and you just started to just rev up that engine of obsession.
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And whether it's around, you know, working out or it's around,
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having fun or it's around, you know, this company that you're gonna start or whatever it is, creating content, whatever it is.
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I think that's just an amazing attitude. It's for some reason, it's different than a resolution. That's the best. I would even say the year of, like, identity where you I mean, obsession is actually better, but it's like a year where you change your identity. I remember, like, do you remember, like, three or four years ago when I was kinda pudgy? And I was, like, this is the year I become a fitness influencer I was joking, but I was like, I was gonna I I was I was gonna make fitness part of my my identity.
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Right. It's the same thing. Obsession identity. It's that's a that's beautiful. It's a beautiful sentence. That's a nine. That's a nine. Okay. You're in on that one.
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So
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okay. But other one,
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forget forget looking forward.
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Do a New Year's reflection.
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So and just forget the to the the kind of to do list of here's a bunch of promises I'm gonna break to myself. You know, like, which is what the news resolution tend to be. Instead, just triple down on the reflection. So really take a walk down memory lane, open up your camera, go through your camera roll. Go watch, you know, January, February, March, April. Write down what some of your your best experiences were, you know, just do a little bit of a journal entry kinda to end the year.
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Send a few thank you notes,
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to people or moments or, you know, people who or or, you know, experiences that you had with people just talking about how great they were or, you know, how much appreciated having them.
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Reflect on, you know, maybe
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everybody ever I think everybody always says,
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oh, man. I learned so much and I grew so much. And then if you ever say, awesome, what'd you learn?
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The writer's block occurs sudden suddenly
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silence silence sweeps over the room.
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Try to actually suss out. Like, what did I really learn?
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And what were the big learning moments for me this year? This happened, and my learning was x. And I did, like, a monster reflection exercise the other day, so fun.
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And I think that
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people should do this in a
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more
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intense way.
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Forget, like, the method. Just just do it in a more intense way. Just be like, I'm gonna actually really try to dig in.
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So I've been doing that every year for a while, and I would just put them in Google Docs. But now so, like, if you're listen, you're listening. I don't know what day will go live. But if you go to the anti MBA dot com, you'll see my reflection. And the anti MBA, that's just my personal blog. I barely ever share. I don't give a shit who reads it.
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Not that many people read it because I don't really share it. But I started doing this publicly now just to reflect, and my family will be able to read it ten or thirty years, which is awesome. Right? Imagine when your mom was coming to India, if or coming from India, if she instead of just telling you the stories, she you could read her blog, what she thought then. And so I've been doing that a lot lately.
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It's awesome. It's really fun. And it's awesome to go through your camera roll because your camera tells you exactly every month what's going on. Relationship hack learned for this from Tony Robbins. He's he basically said once a month, he's, like, me and my he's, like, very easy with your wife to, like, or your partner and just to
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to kinda, like, get get into some routine where you're just, like, mostly your focus and energy is in your work or your kids or your whatever.
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And, like, that kinda dating time is gone. And people try to do to try to, like, you know, reignite the spark with, like, oh, it's date night tonight, but, like, you're both kinda tired. And, you know, you already have had a bunch of conversations, not that much new stuff to share. It's like, hey, what's new with you? I don't know.
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The same things you've been going through, you know, while we put together.
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My my in law rent town in there, like, hey, Sam. It's Sarah. Do you guys wanna swatch a baby? And you could have a date night. And we're like, yeah. But could our date night be? We're just gonna go upstairs and scroll on our phone. Yeah.
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That sounds great. Sam's gonna turn on a bath, and Sarah's gonna leave the house. Yeah. Like, that that was our version of date night.
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So well, I have that all the time. That in that case, but but Tony Robbins said that he does exercise called flooding, which is he's like Real romantic. He's, like, just sit down and basically,
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open up the, you know, the camera roll or the videos and just watch together,
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you know, something from, like, a year ago, three years ago, whatever it is, it just kinda flood those memories,
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together. And it will almost rebond you
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because you'll both ex you'll both reexperience what you've already experienced. And,
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it's a kind of like
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low low bar way to, it's sort of like the minimum dose you need to get, like, sort of a maximum impact in terms of how close you feel with somebody. And I've been doing that. It's pretty awesome. Don't do it every month, but, like, I do it from time to time. You should blog this. Just play create, like, a blog that no one that you don't care if anyone reads and and kinda forces up to write on there. It it's pretty awesome. But, dude, whenever I write something, everybody reads it, I guess, like, super fucking popular in. Don't share it.
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It's just it's just, like,
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you know, like, I, you know, my big thing is I read a lot of history. It's crazy. People used to, like, journal and diary. Remember when you're a kid and someone told me about, like, having a diary and I'm like, dude, that's what, chicks do. I'm not gonna write it diary. Now we're just gonna rebrand it, call it blogging, and it's way more fun. You don't come back. Do I have it here? That's in the other room right now. But, I bought not like a journal, because, you know, most journals are, like, very small.
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And,
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that's great. But, like, actually writing in a journal can be kind of, kinda hard. It's kinda limited. I bought one of those artists sketch pads, like a huge, like,
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thick cardstock
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canvas thing.
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This thing is amazing. It's a absolute pleasure to write on and draw on. I don't feel limited in any way,
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way better than a germ. I I really love this thing. I leave it on my desk most days. I just have it there. I could take notes on one side. I can scribble an idea on the other. And it's just the idea of a sketch pad is just way better than these like Yeah. But in twenty years, the kids are gonna be like, Why did dad just make these stupid s's with the six lines? Like, what is the what is that what is that,
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doodle? He keeps doing a dumb f that everyone does.
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So, like, why does it keep drawing cubes, like, over and over again?
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There's no chance my kids care about what I was thinking when I was thirty five years old or that's the reality. They will. Or maybe maybe one day, one little thing, but, but no. Alright. Last, last one here for New Year's. So we got the bingo card. We got anticipations. We got the obsession. We got the reflection.
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The last one is just This one's actually not it's kinda the best one to end on, but the magic word.
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And the magic word is,
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you pick a theme
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For really just the month. So you'd forget the year. Years's too long. You just say, alright. January, my word word of the month right now. The the theme of this month is gonna be,
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playful. Flirting. I'm a flirt with everybody. Right? You just come up with whatever the word is. I'm gonna take every situation. I'm gonna try to infuse this word into it. Or as as often as I can, I'm gonna try to have this be the theme. Right? I think that's great. What's yours gonna be? Just like pizza,
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That's what my
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I think my branch is
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What doesn't get better with grants? Ranch. That's so funny. Yeah. I think January is just carbs
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no. I think password is good. Well, no matter which one of these new years you pick,
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just remember, January twelfth,
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January twelfth is National Quitter's Day. It's the second Friday after the New Year. By that time, I think, like, more than half of people have completely
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abandoned
21:16
They're really I saw the guy who the founder of that that company slice pizza. They're like a Yeah. A nationwide, like, pizza delivery thing.
21:24
He's like, he he said something like January twelfth twenty fifteenth. He's like,
21:29
he's like, hey. Sales will be down for the next two weeks. But then our biggest day of the year is coming. He's like Is that real? Super Super Bowl of pizza delivery is on National Quitter's day when people give up on their, on their diets, by the second week of January and then move on. So, yeah, that that is what it is. Second Friday of of Jan. That company, by the way, is killing it. Who would have thought? Who not eye. Not eye is the answer. Not eye. Not eye.
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Alright. Let me bring up a juicy topic. I got a big juicy one.
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I got one that when I was researching this, I kept giggling and I kept laughing as a bystander, this topic
22:05
It it is. It is awesome. It has made me so happy.
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And let me explain why. So I I've got this friend, I met him in Hampton. I think he said that you knew him through one of his software companies, software. He did something. He won some contest. We did. His name is Spencer Scott, and he owns two software companies. The software company that I think he spoke to us about, it's pretty funny. You go to, like, your website. So for, in our case, let's say, m f m pod dot com, and you could see who's on your website, and you could video call with them, and it just pops up and it says, hey, you, in Austin. If you have any questions, I'm here in real time. You can ask me questions. Whatever. He's got these software companies I think they probably do four or five hundred thousand dollars a year in revenue. He makes a great living. Well,
22:46
something happened to him, and the way that he reacted to this
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is just hilarious. So Spencer lives outside of Dallas.
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And, apparently,
22:55
there is an issue where the trash collectors come and they leave their trash bins, like, they come and pick up the bins, and they leave them, like, all over the place.
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And so seeing that he's, like, a scrappy entrepreneur,
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He went on to look at a photo of that. Like, we should post a photo of this on the YouTube channel. There's somebody's, trash cans, like, one. Looks like it got in a world star hip hop fight. It just got beat up. It's on the ground. Another one is just at the neighbor's lawn, and then one is where it's supposed to be. And he's like, This is how they left my trash again
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today.
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And it makes and it made the neighbors really angry. Apparently, people he had heard, like, people complain about this. And so the the group, I guess it's,
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is it called Wylie, Texas, page Wylie, Texas? Yeah. It says, like, whatever whatever his neighborhood is, like, residence, and then it's in in the little town that he's in. And he explains this, like, in a really funny way. He goes, we've got my new my neighborhood, it's mostly one of these fancy neighborhood gated,
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it's a gated community. We've got twenty four hour security. Hell, we even have forty forty eight hour security, if you take into account all the Karens that live in my neighborhood and report stuff, like, we're just full of security. And yet our trash, it's just so annoying that once a week, the the company picks it up and our cans are left all over the place. So he makes a Facebook post in the neighborhood group, and he says, hey, neighbors, Is anyone open to switching trash services to a better option? My wife and I are mildly frustrated with cards, and we've made jokes that we feel we are like unpaid employees every week, we play a fun game of Where's Waldo trying to find our trash cans, which are either in the ditch or hidden in our neighbor's yards, whatever.
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And then
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a hundred and fifty people commented on that. And so this guy, Spencer Scott, he calls himself. He's like a Jehovah's Witness of b to b sales. Apparently, before he started a software company. He would go door to door selling internet services or,
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I think phone lines, things like that. So he's just like a door to door sales guy, then he got the software, and he's a pretty scrappy guy. And he goes, hell, I think I'm gonna do this. He finds out that the trash company is actually charging something like fifty bucks a month for three hundred houses. He does the math. He goes, this is kind of interesting. And so we start sending an email
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or, see, he makes a new post in the Facebook group, and listen to that. He goes, in order for this to work, we need two hundred houses to sign up and commit to switching vendors.
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I and this is a great post, by the way. I know this is a huge ass, and you're gonna you're gonna be taking on a risk on a new startup, but I can assure you we are gonna be light years better than cards and this is the good parts. If we aren't, I'm sure they'll take us back. I've got everything lined up, including two advisors who've been in the industry for years. What do you say? You wanna help us start start a trash company with me? And so he creates this website
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where he just googled, like, referral programs, and I linked to the website where Tim Farris, he actually made a blog post where he talked about Harry's, their their pre launch,
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strategy. And so he made this account if you go to his website, his website is,
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is it lone star trash dot com?
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It's hilarious.
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This website. And so if you refer a new customer, you get a t shirt. If you refer ten customers, you get
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one free month of trash pickup. And so within, like, twenty four, forty eight hours, he sets up a Stripe,
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a Stripe account He collects fifteen thousand dollars in sales.
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And so with that fifteen thousand dollars, he says, shit. I'm in business.
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He goes out and he buys two hundred trash bins, because that's, I guess, how many customers he got for month one. And there's a picture of all these trash bins in his driveway.
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Then he goes on Facebook marketplace searches, like, within five hundred miles, and he finds a trash, like, a trash garbage truck for sale for forty grand, Apparently,
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AMX, I didn't know they allowed this, but they give you a line of credit up to sixty or eighty grand for seven percent interest. He uses that, and he buys this truck without ever seeing it. So he calls the guy, and he's like, hey, do a FaceTime with me, whatever, spends two grand, gets this truck shipped to his house.
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Now he's in business. And tomorrow is his first day in business, and he's got to tomorrow. He's gotta get him at four AM.
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It's one day a week. It's gotta go with them.
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I'm gonna go with them. Not tomorrow, but over the next, few weeks, we're gonna I'm gonna get a video crew. I think we gotta go do this. But this guy has started a,
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trash can or trash business. And so in so let me see. I have his math here. He was like, because I think a bad year is gonna be about a hundred and fifty grand in revenue. I think a decent year will be two hundred fifty, and I think a great year will be three hundred fifty. And if it works well, I'll expand to new regions.
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And
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it's crazy fascinating that he's doing this, and he's doing it mostly in public where he's, like, tweeting out all stuff that he's doing. And it's just so funny that this guy's doing this because he's, like, making a joke about it. So for example, He bought hoodies for himself, and I guess the one employee he has. And this what's the t shirt say? It says, It says, it says great days start with a good dump.
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I picked up his garbage truck.
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And I I had him, like, interview
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for, to get information for this pod. I asked him all these questions, and I wrote them down. And he's taking a very technical, like, techy analysis toward this. He's like, look at the search, the SEO for the largest company waste management. They have this many pages, but the second,
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highest in the country only has six hundred fifty pages. I think I could rank there by doing y and z, and it's crazy fascinating. And get this.
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So one truck holds I gotta remember this. One truck holds
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two hundred bins worth of trash.
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And those two hundred bins worth of trash cost two hundred and fifty dollars to dump.
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So the costs are gonna be the the truck,
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the cans, which eventually pay off pretty quickly, and then labor. So Right. It's a pretty fascinating business, and I cannot believe that he just went all in on this, and he's making it happen. I appreciate people who do this. So much. We had I love this story, and I feel very invested in this. I've invested in a lot of companies, but I feel invested in this. I need this to work. Lone star trash, I feel like we should single handedly pump this and to all listeners
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in the, where is he, Dallas?
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He's, thirty minutes outside of Dallas. And he explicitly said, he goes, when you talk about this pod, on the pod, I'm afraid that too many people are gonna go to my website there's a buy now button, and I'm just gonna have to, like, go through all the work and refunding them and telling them we can't service them. So I have to remind people he is only servicing one region. Right. He's like He says my neighborhood has,
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I think three four hundred houses, and then there's four hundred houses in the sit sister neighborhood. He says the trash collecting company is currently charging thirty three dollars per month per bin. So most houses have two bins. So it's sixty six bucks a month. So let's just do the math here. Sixty six bucks a month. Just his neighborhood, that's twenty six k a month, three hundred sixteen thousand a year, double it for for both, and that's, like, sort of six hundred grand of potential revenue if he got everybody to switch. Of course, not gonna get everybody to switch, but I do think he could do
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pretty well. So here's Should we brainstorm a few marketing tactics for him? But it's actually could be potentially bigger than than we think. So he goes, he goes, I he goes, I talked he goes, basically, I went and talked went on Facebook marketplace, and I found all these trash guys,
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who were selling these trucks. And I just played dumb with them. I was like, he's like, I didn't even play dumb. I am dumb. I don't know anything about so he makes friends with all these guys on Facebook marketplace who are selling trucks, and he's like, I fly up there and I meet one of them. And he's like, this guy is in Oklahoma. You would think that he's us a country bumpkin. His business did nine million in revenue, two million in profit. He owns a plane that he flies around in, and he starts talking to these guys, and he learns that there's small town, McKinney, which is north of Dallas. I guess it's a small city.
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They it just went out to bid for them to get a new trash collector. It was fifty thousand houses the contract is twenty million dollars a year. And that's a relatively small region outside of Dallas. So it potentially could be bigger, and we know we've talked about Wayne Hisinga, a billionaire who started,
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auto nation blockbuster
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and waste management. Now we used to own the Florida Panthers. And then we talk about Bradley Jacobs, who's a multi billionaire who started also with trash businesses.
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Maybe it could be bigger than we think. Well, Spencer, if you're listening to this, which I
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I'd be stunned if you didn't listen to this giant segment about your company.
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Me and Sam, we haven't talked about this. I don't know if Sam's cool with this.
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But we're gonna buy your next truck for you, Sarah. We are gonna invest in your company, and we will fund your next truck. And that will be the MFM
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trash truck.
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How many other podcasts do you know that'll have their own trash? Dude, I would one hundred. I would I would I would put up twenty grand Exactly. We're both in for twenty grand. We'll buy the next forty k truck whenever he's ready to to expand this. We'll come in at a low valuation here. Right? Give us a, you know, hundred thousand dollar valuation.
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And,
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we, as this podcast, will then single handedly promote this neighborhood by neighborhood as you expand. But I think you should do a couple things. So
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Here's a few free marketing ideas for him.
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Do you know, can you design the the bins? Like, could he paint the bins? Could he color the bins in a different way? Or or design them so that if you're using this trash company, your bins will look different. I don't see why not. I mean, like, a bright pink one or something.
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Like, the Lyft mustache back in the day. Remember when you when you would go through San Francisco and see these cars driving with this fluffy mustache on it? Like, what the heck is that? And then somebody would have to tell you. Right? It it was so weird. You had to ask, what is that? And then as soon as somebody knew, they were happy to tell you, oh, that's Lyft. It's a ride sharing company. You could actually just request a ride on your phone, and then the driver will show up like that. That's his car. He puts the mustache on it. That means he's attacking. And it's like, whoa, okay. Interesting.
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And the lift I have a lift message right here. I admire this marketing tactic so much.
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I stole a mustache off a car, and I have this thing. And so
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You'll have to have, like,
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He could have, like, he could paint, like, cookies on on the bin, and then the truck will look like cookie monster or something where it's, like, silly when it, like, goes into Exactly. The truck and the the bins need to become his marketing assets. And so
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the bins should look like you've made a choice that you have decided
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to go with the local provider who's all about service that's has fund blah blah blah. Right? So make the bins fun and interesting in some way. Great idea. First step.
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Second step.
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He should go around and basically fly after that other company puts bins out.
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And, you know, let's say they're knocked over or in the wrong spot,
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he should put a little thing that says, we would never do this to you. Where a new company started by a guy who lives here. I was so frustrated and tell your little founder story. Put it as a slip inside of every trash bin.
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Because you're you're really just marketing in this four hundred house radius. Right? So pretty easy. Next thing.
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I don't know if you know this, Sam. Kids love garbage trucks.
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Barber trucks, fire trucks, they just love them.
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So take the truck on tour. It's like the wiener mobile. Do you remember that? The Oskamaya wiener mobile? Yeah. Exactly.
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Where this is the Oscar buyer for, like, playbook.
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And so in our town,
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the fire department for Christmas, they always, like, they'll bring the fire truck out. They'll, like, play music off it to put a Santa on top, do the same thing. Every holiday,
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you're putting the your your truck's gonna drive around. It's gonna be themed. And it's gonna, like, you know, create an occasion for the fact, like, when when a garbage truck comes outside here, I grab my kids and we run outside because they love to see it, they love to see it pick up the trash, whatever. And so
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use do something that's gonna get the kids to do it. So for example,
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go around, let the kids ride in the truck or or drive the truck or something like that. Or let everybody get out their hose and wash the truck. So you can, like, spray your hose at the truck while it's going by. Create something that's gonna get kids excited to see it. If families decide to see it, so that they know who you are, tell your story.
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So I think if he does this, he could literally get, like, eighty percent of the neighborhood
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on board because the other trash company does no marketing whatsoever, and it sounds like they're not doing a great job. There's a little bit of an opening here to, to go in and and and sell a better service.
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I think it's just fascinating. I think that, like, obviously, the margins are gonna be way worse than software, but you have a recurring element here.
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Every I mean, the the size of the market is every home in America.
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And also, like, just somebody's doing, like, you remember how we talked about Pinks? Pinks was a window cleaning company.
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And for some reason, they just have cool hats and people have their hats. They sent they sent me one. I wear. It's awesome. The like, what he's doing with great days start with a good dump, like, that little silly stuff or, like, the fact that his website is kinda funny and how it has, a affiliate program,
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it's this is brilliant. I do think he's missing that branding though in the the there's no, like,
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like, you know, Pinks is is got its its color, it's got its name, it's got whatever.
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There's, like, the two guys in a truck kinda, like, moving company. That's another good one where it's, like, you know, two two dudes in a truck. He needs something like that. Yeah. But, keep in mind, I'm pretty sure he started this three weeks ago.
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So he's, like, he's, like, look. Why doesn't everything figure out?
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I decided this was my mission eight weeks ago. I'm all in. Like, just, you know, you can't stop me now.
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We'll crowdsource this, dude. If there's a design agency that listens to the pot,
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you need to do a free a pro bono free full branding. I mean, you know, where's Red Antler? Red Antler.
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I need you to do take on this project for free in exchange for marketing collateral that you did this truck this, this trash company this local trash company in Texas branding. We need a design company to let's crowdsource all everything we need to make this happen. And he said, so I had him fill this out on twelve fifteen. He goes, came up with this idea sixty days ago. So what's that? That's a a so, in October fifteenth, he came up with the idea,
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and then he got customers that fast.
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I I just can't believe this. It's just so funny. And he's got all these pictures of all these bins in front of his house, of him and his wife cleaning the bins,
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it's the it's just this is art. Also,
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TikTok. He needs to go on TikTok and tell the story. I don't know if you've seen, but, like,
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so somebody posts this TikTok the other day. They go,
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oh, you're worried about,
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oh, like, you know, you wanna start posting on TikTok but you're worried, oh, what do I have to say, or how do I look, or whatever? And the woman goes, do you know what I watch on this app?
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I watch
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I watch guys cut sand. I watch women clean houses. I watch and it's like, I watch a massage therapist. I don't even get the massage. I watch other people get massaged. Dude, I watch chiropractors
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and fruit getting crushed Yeah. Cracking next, opening up avocados. Like, you know,
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what are you waiting for? And I think that is a a know, Mark Anderson did. It's time to build as this rally cry.
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There's, like, the equivalent one of, like, do you know what I want I'll watch anything. It's the Crowley cry of TikTok. And I think he's gotta tell the story of, like, this dad this father of two, who got so annoyed with his trash company that he's just decided, like, alright, effing, I'm doing this.
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He says that he goes his goal is,
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twenty four customers in less than eighteen months, which is around a thou a million dollars in ARR.
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He said he's gonna hit a thousand cup customers in the first six months. In his first day driving the truck. He's he goes, I screwed around with it a little bit to test it out.
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But I really, like, I'm just getting going tomorrow for the first time. And then listen to this. Listen to this guy's humor. He goes,
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I go, are you looking to hire for cert positions? He goes, yeah. In fact, as I as I'm typing this, I'm sitting at the bar at Dave and Buster's watching adults play the claw game. Anyone who wins, I slipped in my biz card and give them an invite to make twenty dollars an hour driving my trash trucks.
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This guy he's great, man. He's great. He he's
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great.
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He's,
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he's full of humor. This is awesome. This is a a really cool thing that he started as just like a stupid idea, but it's got legs. And I think that this is gonna be awesome. This can make because I think Spencer also wants a bit of, a bit of fame, a little bit of content. Course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not just that. I think he, you know, from medium, I think he has an urge that I have a very primal urge inside, which is, like, I just wanna
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live, like,
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I just wanna do something different with my life. You know? Like, I just wanna do something different than the, like, path. Like, okay. I get it. I could do the path.
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But I really don't wanna just do the path. I think Spencer has this, which is what leads somebody to do something like this. And I my it sounds like he's already pretty all in, but
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triple down. Go even further all in. Rebrand yourself as trash daddy. Tell your story to the world.
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Like, do the unnecessary. Like, you know, every Sunday have a theme. You know, like, remember how Gagan used to do this with Sprigg. He used to put a truffle in every box. Like, you know, every time you ordered, you get a little chocolate truffle with it. Like, just keep coming up with surprise and delight
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ways to go up do the absolute unnecessary because that's what people pay attention to. The thing Yeah. Like, leaving a toy trash truck in people's mailbox or something like that. Ex
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Sam.
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Brilliant.
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I should be doing this, frankly. This is this is my type of business. Get out of the way.
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Yeah. Yeah. He's the graves. I'm the Travis Kalinic. I need to take this thing over.
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This needs to be my business.
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No. I think this is awesome. So I what's his handle? His just if you look up Spencer Scott, I think his handle is aka Spencer Scott. On Twitter. This is gonna be a really fun journey for us to follow along, and we're early in the we're early on this, and we're gonna help make this a thing. This is awesome. By the way, Spencer, if you're listening, holler at us, I I know I talked to you about this before, but now it's public record.
40:37
Yeah. That was awesome. Okay. Wow. What a segment. What a way to start off the New Year. That was that was amazing. That's what this podcast is all about. If this is your first time listening to this podcast, that's what this podcast is all about. Yeah. Find it cool stuff. Alright. I wanted to tell you another just, like, fun product real quick. This is a quick one. Click this link to this thing, birdie. Birdie dot design is the name of it. Dude, I can't tell if these things are popular.
41:01
Like, is this like a yellow cab where, like, I've noticed one, and they're everywhere, or have they always been everywhere? We talked about the this type of stuff a while ago.
41:08
It's everywhere now. I've I've never seen one. You've seen one of these in real life?
41:12
No. We'll go ahead and explain what it is. Okay. So I'll explain it into the content into context of this. One of the the running jokes on the pod is
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that a a completely valid business model is just
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x,
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beautifully done.
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And if you're pitching somebody, You really don't even have to say much more than that. You're like, what if it was just headphones?
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Just
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really well done. And everyone else or a thermostat.
41:39
I can't argue with somebody who is just saying, we're just not gonna do it. You know, all the bad ways you could do this, we're not gonna do any of those.
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Just beautifully done. Is and Nest is a thermostat that's just
41:51
is this beautifully done? This is a air qual air quality monitor.
41:56
That is beautifully done. So go to birdie dot design, and you'll see it.
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It's this white circle with a small yellow
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bird, like the Twitter old Twitter logo.
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And when it's it's like, when it's pointed up like a cuckoo clock, that means the quality is good.
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If the air quality in your house ever drops rather than you know, beeping like an annoying smoke alarm or having tons of numbers and and strange colors, and you're like, oh, god. You get stressed out.
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The bird just changes positions just to tell you that, hey, the air quality is not great right now. And then you look in your app, and it'll tell you all about it. So this thing is awesome. I think it's big in Europe. It's not actually they're, like, just now, like actually, I don't know if this is true. But they're expanding to the to the states now. I think it's bigger in Europe.
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I think this is a fantastic idea.
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Beautiful website.
42:44
The currency is d k k. What's d k k?
42:49
Some type of monopoly money. I don't know. Yeah.
42:51
Danish Cron.
42:53
Ah, the Kroner. Yes.
42:58
So, yeah, this thing cost two thousand DK,
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an unknown amount of dollars.
43:04
Three hundred dollars. Three hundred dollars. That's three hundred.
43:08
It's beautiful. It's a piece of art. It's wonderful.
43:11
So we've talked about this with Steph Smith. Steph Smith said that these air quality control, like, monitors, they're gonna she she said they're gonna explode. She's and then she went on and said,
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she goes, I predict that the subreddit called air quality is gonna be the next big thing. It only has four thousand subs, but it's been doubling every six months. And I think that, with wildfires and all this other stuff, that air quality control is gonna become a huge thing. And I keep seeing people tweet this constantly They have these little digital meters. And I don't know what the measurement is, but they say c o two is this number. And it looks like a little digital clock. And they're everywhere, ma'am. People are traveling with them. I'm seeing this everywhere now that she told us about this. Yes. Exactly. So she was saying, like, you know, she's like, I noticed that sleep our slash sleep quality went through this crazy trend over the last, like, you know, four years where sleep became, like, you know, the vogue kind of health trend
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And,
44:03
she's like, I think air quality is gonna be next. Look at the growth of the of the air quality subreddit, the products on Amazon that are there. And it's kinda like an immature space. And I think this is a
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wonderful,
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beautiful product design for a product that's that's in that space.
44:19
Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the Amazon ratings right now. I mean, some of these products have tens of thousands of reviews.
44:25
This is gonna be a thing, man. This is gonna be like the next version of ring, I think,
44:30
these air quality controls. But the thing about it is I don't know if this is pseudoscience, like,
44:35
Like, I don't know the truth of
44:37
is that, like Are you willing to bet your life on it?
44:40
Well, that's that's the beauty of these products. Right? That's the beauty is. It's like a dog vitamin. It's, like, don't fucking know if this works. Like, but, like, I'll buy that insurance. Like Right. But don't you love your dog? Yeah. How do I get c o two out of my house? I couldn't tell you. I don't breathe less I I don't know. Remove the car from the living room. I don't know how to do it. It's it's coming from me, I think.
44:59
Yeah. Like, go far. Outside.
45:01
Yeah. I don't I don't know how to do it, but when I see it, I'm like, that sounds important. It's like the word leaky gut or a juice cleanse. Like, well, if you use those words. I guess I have to do it.
45:12
Right. I don't know if I have leaky gut, but I sure as hell, am willing to, like, take any product that will stop you know, just in case.
45:20
Alright. I've got one more quick thing.
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Yeah. You go.
45:25
I need some advice.
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So
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I own a Facebook group.
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You know, one of my hobbies is I have Facebook groups. I'm one of the only people that that actually do that. I actually have three or four. I've got a couple that are in the sixteen, seventy thousand range, but I have one
45:42
that when trends shut down, I just posted in there, and I said, don't know what I'm gonna do with this, but here's a Facebook group. I call it, I actually am not gonna say the name of it because I don't wanna get flooded with new people joining.
45:54
And I just said, this Facebook group is gonna close down. I just made a new one. You guys can all hang out in there. It's got three thousand members.
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Most of them are people who have small businesses doing hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's mostly like those types that that size of business.
46:09
I have no intention to monetize it.
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But I wouldn't be lying if in the back of my head. I'm just thinking, this could be something. I'm missing out here.
46:19
The group has a lot of, traction. People post every single day. Are you a member of it?
46:26
Think what what did you call it? Let's let's give it a you wanna give it a plug or you don't wanna give a plug? It's called
46:33
yeah. Terrible name. I think it's a hilarious statement. It's in the tagline, it's shipping products with the bold, fast fund energy. It's a community of people who build and talk business that are bold, fast fund. The artist formerly known as trends, where a pirate ship of people who care about talking nerdy business stuff, showing out projects, asking questions, and misreading
46:49
with their fellow pirates,
46:50
and mostly because trends kicked us out and we're a bunch of degenerents we need a place to go to. And so I created this group. It's got three thousand members, dozens of posts per day, If I wanted to monetize this, which I I actually am not sure I will, because I don't wanna work on it.
47:04
What would you do? The real answer is kind of a boring answer. I would absolutely not bother monetizing this. I'm not going to. There's a one percent chance. Reason why. You have a incredible business that you already you don't own and can focus on. Any ounce of mind share and time share that you spend on not that business on some
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really secondary business is
47:28
dumb and wasted. I agree. So I agree. That's the first one. But but but we are a podcast where we talk about stuff. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So for for the sake of argument,
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I'll tell you what you could do. So I do think you should probably should have called it something like the artist phone really known as trends. I think that's, like, a better, better name.
47:45
I think you could simply reboot trends. That's the first simple obvious idea. Right? So,
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let's not let's not, you know, over complicate things.
47:54
People liked trends. These are people that already were in trends and paying customers with trans trends is now
47:59
free slash, like,
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you know, difference. Let's just say. So there's an opportunity to do this. I actually think this is true about many businesses. There is this window, like,
48:10
I don't know, three years after a company's been acquired, where you can literally just start the same company again.
48:16
This, this is so common. I see this all the time. People can literally build the same company and re the guy we sold the milk road to, he did the same thing. He built a company, sold it for forty five million dollars, And then he built the same company, sold it again to forty another forty five million dollars to the same company. And then finally, they were like, hey. Noncompete this time. Like, you can't do this again to us. And,
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people
48:37
really, really underestimate
48:39
how much you could do this, especially a few years after a company's been acquire a product's been acquired because By that time, the team has changed. The product's been folded in, you know, like, a whole bunch of stuff has has gone awry. So I think that's the easiest thing if you do. I believe they shut down trends because I think it had
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five hundred thousand people on the list, on the email list, and HubSpot was like, dude, like, trends charge is three hundred dollars a year. It probably makes I don't know what it made, but let's say five or six million dollars a year.
49:07
And we have four hundred thousand people saying they're interested, but haven't bought it yet. We can make way more money just making it free, and Right. A portion of them will buy our software. And so but, like, many entrepreneurs would be like, Yeah. But five million or six million dollars a year with two people running it, that's pretty dope. I would like that as well. The the next thing,
49:26
is I think you could use it for
49:28
growing Hampton. So,
49:30
the way that Y Combinator uses hacker news, so Paulgram basically creates hacker news,
49:35
Hiker News becomes the most popular
49:38
forum or message board for developers.
49:41
And,
49:42
you know, he could have been like, guys, we gotta do a job board. And then we gotta, like, you know, do sponsored posts.
49:48
And then we gotta make a paid tier. That paid tier is gonna have certain permissions.
49:52
He's like, no. No. No. I already have
49:55
one of the best business models in the world where
49:59
YC can basically invest in young hackers for, like, you know, at that time, they were giving you, like, eighteen thousand dollars for sec six percent of your company or something like that.
50:09
All he needed to do was just keep the thing free and keep it awesome
50:13
so that it became just like a,
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an an asset, you know, there's a marketing asset out there for YC that existed for YC. And I think that that was the right move, and that's what I would do if I was you for Hampton.
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You've given me ideas.
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So look, here's how I think about some of these small projects. I think I don't wanna spend a second doing it. But what I love about little projects like this is There's people in my family. There's people who I'm friends with. I'm like, I don't wanna spend a second doing this, but I will give this to you as long as you keep it awesome, it makes a little bit of money for yourself. You could just pay yourself with all that money. I don't care. But as long as this thing lives, and it's great. I don't need to make a cinch from it. I think what I can do is make this,
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a thing where the community stays amazing. And once or twice a month, I can have a sponsor that pays a small enough salary
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for the person running it to make, to make a living while keeping the community great. That's a great idea. I'm glad I brought this up. I should do this. I love how you were, like, you gave me a great idea, but the thing you said was completely different than what I said. That's how that's how this works. That's how this thing works. You have to use that's a little yes and there for you.
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Told my thespians out there.
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Sam just yes handed
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with a huge leap.
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Didn't you say sponsored?
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Yeah. I said the word sponsor. Oh, you're talking about job posts on hacker news. That's why I refer one to the other. What program
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didn't do?
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And then you'll go,
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that's when I you stop listening, and then you said sponsorships. That's a great idea.
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For the record, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spend any more than ten minutes a month on this thing. I'm not actually gonna do anything, but it is fun. This is the point of the podcast is to think about this stuff. We'll see what happens. I'm but I'm not personally gonna spend a second with this. But you know what I mean? All these young bloods that we have in our true who I would love to work with at some capacity, and I don't have an option to work with them or something.
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I'm just thinking about it. I'm just
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I'm gonna start doing yes, say it. Like,
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to my wife, it says, like, hey, let's go do this. Yeah. Let's do that.
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And we're gonna do it differently than what you said. We're gonna do what I said.
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Yes, Dan is my new thing. Yeah. That's a great idea. And also,
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at that time, we're gonna do this other thing. You're like, What do you gotta eat for dinner? And I'm like, well, I had Thai for lunch. So not that. You're like, Thai, that's a great idea.
52:51
So fucking funny. I'm gonna, yeah, sand the shit out of people from now on.
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Well, the beautiful, you don't think that, yeah, sanding people is
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Instead of our they can't, like, argue with you because you're, like, oh, are you trying to be a buzzkill and not, yes, and here? Are you trying to, like, stop our flow?
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They're like, I guess I gotta go with this.
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I'm not going the direction I want, but,
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last thing, you have Camp MFM coming up on Wednesday. I had to bow out because I'm committed to this whole this whole being a parent thing, you know, whatever that thing is.
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The whole this all, you know, being a person, they added all that nonsense. I'm committed to it. I saw the flyer you made for it.
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And I did I did not have any FOMO until I saw that the Airbnb founder is going. In particular,
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the Airbnb founder
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who interviewed me for my job at Airbnb and then fired me four days later one day before I was supposed to start. He's going.
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And I would have loved to have gone to see that guy. He, by the way, he fired me for just cause. He was right. I was wrong. Why,
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how'd you get him?
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Ben. Ben is the easy answer. So
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we we went into camp MFM this year with a a fresh mindset new year, new us, And team FM is basically
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Sean and Ben. You went and found
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last year, we did two years ago, fifteen people, including mister Beast, maybe twenty people, you last year, we went to a kind of a crummy house that was just huge.
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And you somehow got us all Nike's, and then we went, like, basketball shoes, and then we went in, like, played basketball. The version of the story sucks. Here's what happened.
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Let me just yes, Angie, real quick.
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So, yes, but completely different.
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Last year, Ben was like, why don't you host
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an Why don't you host, like, a conference or somebody that has so many people that would, you know, are in the kind of podcast
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audience, Twitter audience that would love to come I said yes, but a couple of problems.
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A,
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I don't really like big groups of people. Like, I really have a bad time when I go to events with, like, a lot of people in them. It's just socially not something I enjoy. Second,
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conferences are kinda boring.
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And if I don't wanna like, if I I hear, oh, you're invited to come to a conference, either you're gonna watch people talk or you're gonna get to talk on stage. It's not,
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Again, I have that Spencer Scott urge to just do something different with my life. So I said, why don't we do something different? I said, what would I what would be the instead of just saying no,
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let me instead ask, what would be the event that I would love to go to? I'd be looking forward to. And I was like, oh, what I would want is just kinda like a summer camp for adults.
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Where it's kinda like a summer camp. Like, I used to go in the summers to play at a basketball camp. So I love basketball. I would just go to something that's super fun. We're gonna play And then we hang out and we talk, yeah, we do that after, but, like, the main thing is we're gonna play and we're gonna compete and we're gonna have a lot of fun.
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And that all the guests, you know, it's a small number of guests but that all of them are, like,
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the twenty most fascinating people I know.
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We tried it last year. It was amazing. Mister
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Beast I I tweeted out the thing. I said, here's my my dream for an event. And I had three bullet points, and I put out a Google form. And in that Google form, there was, like, two hundred people replied, of which a hundred ninety nine, we did not invite to the event, but one of them was mister Beast. And I didn't even know he followed us. I thought it was a prank when I was like, oh, yeah. Sure. Your Twitter handles mister Beast. Yeah. Sure. Whatever. And then his email was, like, a real name, but it was kinda like a, like, a Yahoo or something like that. I was like, oh, this gotta be fake. Then I get a d so I don't even reply. The next day, he deems me, says, so are we doing this or what?
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And I, like, you know, spit out my drink, and I was like, oh, shit. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing this.
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Where do you live? Oh, North Carolina?
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Funny coincidence. We're doing it there. And so I was like, I wanna make a season for him. And so We just so happened to be doing it in Greenville, North Carolina.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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So we we went. You were there. It was a great time. There's twenty seven people, and we we invited this,
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guy who trains a bunch of NBA stars like Kyrie irving and Trey Young, and he's got he used to train Kobe,
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and he came down. He basically was, like, kind of the our our coach, and it was a bunch of out of shape, you know,
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business people plus a couple of entertainers. So, like, you know,
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people from the the entertainment world out, like, joint as well. Anyways, it's a good time. So this year, we wanted to do it again.
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But we made, you know, came up with some differences. So I was like, even less people. Last year, we had twenty seven people. This year, we cut it down to, I think, seventeen.
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Which was we really only tried that fifteen, but we we ended up at seventeen.
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We we said, well, we don't wanna do it with the same exact group every single year because, again, the point of this is we're trying to rotate kind of like, you know, just people we we wanna use a setting as an excuse to meet people we wanna meet.
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And by the way, you forgot. We all lived or it was only two nights, but we all stayed in the same air. It was just a huge house. It was like a family's house that had all their, like, like, I I shared a slumber. I shared a I shared a bunk bed with Ramon and his son. And, and then they had, like, a lake that we were women, and it was awesome. It was a crappy, like, inside house, but that's actually made it amazing. It made it really fun. Well, it was the best house in Raleigh, North Carolina, but that says more about Raleigh, North Carolina, but it has the So so it was,
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so this year, we were like, alright. We're doing it again.
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And,
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we came up with kind of a dream guest list. Now Why did I say that Ben was the way that we got, the coat airbnb guy to come? Because Ben
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somehow just, like,
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He is the Twitter API. Like, he just consumes so much content that he know I was like, you know, it's like a AI search. I was like, who is a super interesting business person who also loves to play basketball.
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He's like, oh, I think the Airbnb guy plays basketball every weekend. And I was like, how could you possibly know that? Well, Andy, owns the, San Antonio
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Spurs. And I was like, oh, wow. So,
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we reach out to Joe,
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Joe's. He finds me his email.
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I cold email them and I say, hey.
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You don't know me from, you don't you don't know. I mean, Sean, but you don't know from John. You know, here's the here's this event that we're doing. I think he would really like it.
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Yeah, we'd love to have you. And he
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calls me. And he's like, basically calls me. Ask me some questions, but I could tell. It's just like, are you in are you like an insane person? Like, do I wanna be around you for two days or not? And,
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And so he's coming. There's a yeah. The guest list is kind of amazing. So I'm gonna do a recap of it afterwards, but
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what
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What a thing to manifest. Like, you know, Jeff Ma came on the podcast and she said this thing. She I was like, so you you run a a venture studio and idea lab. Like, what do you call it? She's like, oh, no. I don't call it anything. She's like, I have a team of people
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that are, like, my little manifestation company. Like, if I wanna make something happen, they just help me make it happen, make come make it go from idea
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to a thing.
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And, now that's how I think about what me and Ben do. It's not like a holding code. It's like a manifestation code. What is the life we wanna have and then we just sort of make it so? And this is one thing that, you know, I would wanna have as my kinda, like, annual annual thing that I do. Yeah. Oh, but dude. I gotta tell you. So
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just I'm flying out tomorrow. Right? So I'm like, alright. I gotta get my my haircut. My beard trim. I gotta get I gotta get fresh. By the way, your haircut looks quite good. You should do that more often. Notice, my hair might look good, but my beard looks untouched. Why is that? What happened?
01:00:11
Tell you a little story. So this is a little I didn't I didn't think that.
01:00:16
Well, I think that. And so I
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I go to this barbershop.
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Normally, I have this guy who comes to my house, cuss by her, and, it's like a routine, so I don't need to think about it. But he couldn't come. So I was like, alright. I'm gonna go to this place. I go and,
01:00:30
this I'm like, great. Yeah. I got this big event. Just need a, you know, little standard f boy haircut.
01:00:36
Trimmed the beard a little bit. And, we're good. Right? He's like, I don't know the beards. And I was like, pretty sure I booked that. What do you mean?
01:00:43
He's like, I was like, this is a barbershop. Right? Like, what else do you do if not Heron Beards?
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He's like, he's like, I just don't wanna mess it up. And I was like, well, I also don't want you to mess it up, but I needed alright. Whatever.
01:00:54
Weird, but okay.
01:00:55
And then he's like, okay. What do you want for your hair? Can I show him a picture and he starts doing it?
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And,
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super
01:01:01
nice guy.
01:01:03
But I noticed that his hand is, like, really trembling, like, cutting my hair.
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And I'm, like, okay. This is interesting.
01:01:11
I feel bad for him.
01:01:13
But you know what I'm saying? I also feel bad for me because you don't want to get tearing up by somebody's hand is trembling with the clippers. So I'm like, okay. This is now a high risk situation. I'm about to go to my biggest event of the year. I hired this vlogger guy to follow me around. I'm not trying to have an FTA haircut.
01:01:27
But I put I put my faith in this guy. We did it. The haircut turned out okay. I was like, you know what, Beatram? Forget it. I ever said it. Not doing it.
01:01:35
And he's like, he he at the end, he goes, thank you so much. You were you have been so kind to me. And I go, I didn't do anything. What do you mean? I just sat here and got my hair cut. He's like, I was so nervous. I have never done that haircut.
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And I was like,
01:01:50
Hey, man.
01:01:51
What the hell? What
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You got the most basic haircut that every guy ever has. I was like, this is the standard guy haircut. What do you mean? Is this a barbershop?
01:02:03
You work here. Right? Like, did did I just ask a customer to cut my hair? Bus bizarre experience. He's like, I was so nervous.
01:02:10
He's like, I've done one of these before. And I totally screwed it up Bianca. She's amazing. He points at he points to this woman, Bianca goes, she had to fix it for me. She's so good with the Clippers.
01:02:20
I'm like, then why did Bianca shut my hair? What's happening right now? You should ask somebody once you should tell me she'd start a trash company. It fit right in.
01:02:29
Not racist experience. Am I right?
01:02:32
I was laughing so hard. I was like, what just happened to me? This is, like, a a comedy it. It's gonna be Wednesday to Friday. This is the I I just got FOMO for the first time last night when I saw, that Joe was gonna be there. I'm I'm bummed. I can't go. Hopefully, you you, do good, and hopefully you get some good podcasts. Yeah. That's a lot of pressure. I'm just gonna try to have a good time. That's my goal. No. Or make videos like interviews. Bigo cards. Alright.
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That's the pod.
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