00:00

The hospital software guy.

The hospital software guy.

00:02

Here's what he said. You'll like this. His was simpler. He's like, he said, yeah. Like, agree with all that stuff. Here's how we thought about it.

Here's what he said. You'll like this. His was simpler. He's like, he said, yeah. Like, agree with all that stuff. Here's how we thought about it.

00:11

We need to have five hundred salespeople that can sell a million dollars worth of product a year.

We need to have five hundred salespeople that can sell a million dollars worth of product a year.

00:18

Or two hundred fifty, oh, oh, sorry. Five hundred that could sell half a million a year or two hundred fifty that could sell a million dollar as their sales quota per year.

Or two hundred fifty, oh, oh, sorry. Five hundred that could sell half a million a year or two hundred fifty that could sell a million dollar as their sales quota per year.

00:26

So we just work backwards from that. Alright.

So we just work backwards from that. Alright.

00:28

What features products and, like, people do we need to, like, let a salesperson, like, get five hundred salespeople that could sell half a million dollars a year of, like, sales quota. Like, first, is that even possible? Can the can this market support that? Yes. The market is very big. Hospital spent a lot of money in health care. And in our category, they spend more than, you know, much more than that.

What features products and, like, people do we need to, like, let a salesperson, like, get five hundred salespeople that could sell half a million dollars a year of, like, sales quota. Like, first, is that even possible? Can the can this market support that? Yes. The market is very big. Hospital spent a lot of money in health care. And in our category, they spend more than, you know, much more than that.

00:55

Alright. We're live. So look,

Alright. We're live. So look,

00:59

I you said Sean that you didn't wanna, like, do an event because you didn't wanna travel. I decided to host one anyway. It's just like a meetup.

I you said Sean that you didn't wanna, like, do an event because you didn't wanna travel. I decided to host one anyway. It's just like a meetup.

01:07

But

But

01:08

do you see the you saw the link that I posted, like, the event right thing? It's no big deal, but you see it? Yeah. You posted, like, an event in New York with you,

do you see the you saw the link that I posted, like, the event right thing? It's no big deal, but you see it? Yeah. You posted, like, an event in New York with you,

01:16

and a bunch of her, like, kind of tech buddy friends. No. Just satchel. Just me and satchel. I'm just, like, I wanna

and a bunch of her, like, kind of tech buddy friends. No. Just satchel. Just me and satchel. I'm just, like, I wanna

01:21

like, I wanna get out of the house. I wanna do something. You said no.

like, I wanna get out of the house. I wanna do something. You said no.

01:24

And dude, a thousand people have RSVP ed, and I have no idea where we're gonna host it. I have no idea what we're gonna do. I don't have a plan. I know nothing.

And dude, a thousand people have RSVP ed, and I have no idea where we're gonna host it. I have no idea what we're gonna do. I don't have a plan. I know nothing.

01:33

I don't know. It sounded like you had a plan. You were like, we're moving it to this other place and blah blah. It sounded like something's in the world. Some guy d m p on Twitter I'll help you find a video, a venue. And like I said, great. You're in charge. I don't know his name, but

I don't know. It sounded like you had a plan. You were like, we're moving it to this other place and blah blah. It sounded like something's in the world. Some guy d m p on Twitter I'll help you find a video, a venue. And like I said, great. You're in charge. I don't know his name, but

01:46

Cool. You're in.

Cool. You're in.

01:51

Don't take facts.

Don't take facts.

01:53

Yeah. Hope it works. And then I got Nick Gray, the, the small party guy to come and I was like, dude, just come and organize this and you could sell books there.

Yeah. Hope it works. And then I got Nick Gray, the, the small party guy to come and I was like, dude, just come and organize this and you could sell books there.

02:02

But, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

But, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

02:05

Would it be lame if we're just stand around and just say hi?

Would it be lame if we're just stand around and just say hi?

02:08

Yeah. Kinda lame. Well, what the fuck? What am I supposed to do? Juggle? I don't know. Should have thought of that before you posted it, bro.

Yeah. Kinda lame. Well, what the fuck? What am I supposed to do? Juggle? I don't know. Should have thought of that before you posted it, bro.

02:16

Like, we did the live pod thing,

Like, we did the live pod thing,

02:20

in Austin, Miami.

in Austin, Miami.

02:22

And honestly, I don't think it was very good. I don't think listening to a podcast live is that entertaining in the energy like It's like a a planned, like, comedy skit. Unless, like, we, like, planned, like, we had a bit. You know what I mean? A little scripted

And honestly, I don't think it was very good. I don't think listening to a podcast live is that entertaining in the energy like It's like a a planned, like, comedy skit. Unless, like, we, like, planned, like, we had a bit. You know what I mean? A little scripted

02:35

stage play. Yeah. Well, no. Just like, that's what comedians do. Right? You know, it's like scripted, but they also kinda flow a little bit. But, yeah.

stage play. Yeah. Well, no. Just like, that's what comedians do. Right? You know, it's like scripted, but they also kinda flow a little bit. But, yeah.

02:43

Or you're just so big that people, like, simply the idea of seeing you live is that entertaining. Like, I don't think we're there yet. Like, I went to Tim Ferris did a live thing once, and it was just him sitting on the chairs fireside chat.

Or you're just so big that people, like, simply the idea of seeing you live is that entertaining. Like, I don't think we're there yet. Like, I went to Tim Ferris did a live thing once, and it was just him sitting on the chairs fireside chat.

02:55

I've seen the guys who do, whatever that political thing is, like John favreau or whatever. They have, like, a political podcast pod pod saves America or something like that. They do live shows. And people just, like, geek out about meeting them and seeing them.

I've seen the guys who do, whatever that political thing is, like John favreau or whatever. They have, like, a political podcast pod pod saves America or something like that. They do live shows. And people just, like, geek out about meeting them and seeing them.

03:09

I don't think we're there yet.

I don't think we're there yet.

03:11

And also, just in general, I'm a big energy guy. And,

And also, just in general, I'm a big energy guy. And,

03:15

basically, my idea of a good time is where the energy is, like, steady up and rising to the right.

basically, my idea of a good time is where the energy is, like, steady up and rising to the right.

03:20

And, like, you know, my idea of any kind of bad time is a dip in energy. Like, the same way people feel about awkward silences in a conversation,

And, like, you know, my idea of any kind of bad time is a dip in energy. Like, the same way people feel about awkward silences in a conversation,

03:28

I feel about energy dips. Like, if I sense the energy going low in the room

I feel about energy dips. Like, if I sense the energy going low in the room

03:32

or hang out? Because that's what happens when you do, Hey, we're two dudes from Twitter or a podcast.

or hang out? Because that's what happens when you do, Hey, we're two dudes from Twitter or a podcast.

03:37

Let's talk in front of you or let's say hi, like,

Let's talk in front of you or let's say hi, like,

03:41

it's just kinda lame, isn't it? Well

it's just kinda lame, isn't it? Well

03:44

Maybe the say the say hi is That's not helpful, though. I I don't know what to do. I have these people coming. Here's what I think. It's gonna happen. I think that they're not actually coming to see me. I'm just the excuse for all these Twitter dorks to see one another.

Maybe the say the say hi is That's not helpful, though. I I don't know what to do. I have these people coming. Here's what I think. It's gonna happen. I think that they're not actually coming to see me. I'm just the excuse for all these Twitter dorks to see one another.

03:56

So I got an idea that I think would be dope that you could use for this,

So I got an idea that I think would be dope that you could use for this,

04:01

or we could use for something else. But,

or we could use for something else. But,

04:03

basically, I was like, okay.

basically, I was like, okay.

04:06

Like, I'll tell you. I went to this event in LA just now, that my buddy romaine threw

Like, I'll tell you. I went to this event in LA just now, that my buddy romaine threw

04:11

And it's like, I wonder if there's a conference, but the day before the conference, there's, like, the dinner. And now this was, like, a baller dinner. It was, like, at, the home of an NBA team, owners, like, on his rooftop looking at the beach. It was like beautiful. Right? But, like, even if it wasn't that baller of a of a surroundings, like, the the house wasn't that sick, this still would have been awesome because there's basically the table was full of, like, basically, there was two tables. Each table had, like, one really famous person,

And it's like, I wonder if there's a conference, but the day before the conference, there's, like, the dinner. And now this was, like, a baller dinner. It was, like, at, the home of an NBA team, owners, like, on his rooftop looking at the beach. It was like beautiful. Right? But, like, even if it wasn't that baller of a of a surroundings, like, the the house wasn't that sick, this still would have been awesome because there's basically the table was full of, like, basically, there was two tables. Each table had, like, one really famous person,

04:36

and then, like, two kind of famous people. And then the rest were interesting, but not famous people.

and then, like, two kind of famous people. And then the rest were interesting, but not famous people.

04:41

And just simple like, there was a con Which one which one of those were you?

And just simple like, there was a con Which one which one of those were you?

04:47

I was the just interesting person.

I was the just interesting person.

04:50

Got it. Okay. I just trying to understand, like, the level of fame we're we're talking about. No. No. I'm talking about, like, real fame. Like, professional athlete, actor, that's that level of fame. Which actors were there?

Got it. Okay. I just trying to understand, like, the level of fame we're we're talking about. No. No. I'm talking about, like, real fame. Like, professional athlete, actor, that's that level of fame. Which actors were there?

05:00

I can't say the names of anybody that was there. It was a it was an athlete event, not not so much But, like, a list people?

I can't say the names of anybody that was there. It was a it was an athlete event, not not so much But, like, a list people?

05:08

Of of the athletes,

Of of the athletes,

05:09

it was like former a list. It's like a former b list. Let's say. It's like,

it was like former a list. It's like a former b list. Let's say. It's like,

05:14

I, you know,

I, you know,

05:15

I you're not on the cover of the video game, but, like, you know, I remember your name. I've seen you play. I had Right. You

I you're not on the cover of the video game, but, like, you know, I remember your name. I've seen you play. I had Right. You

05:21

know that gamer's attribute.

know that gamer's attribute.

05:23

Yeah. I I Yeah. Exactly. I could tell you exactly. I have memories of you playing the game, not like a bench warmer. So anyways, but the my point is these dinner tape, like, basically just like a table, And whether that table is like you're playing poker or you're eating food or something like that, just like a round table of like eight people where the expectation is that, hey, we're all here to get to know each other. Like, we're all here to talk. And then you kind of can rotate. I think we could do one of those for the MFM community, but we take the, like, ten or fifteen, like, most baller guests. So it's like Andrew Wilkinson has his table. And you have your table. I have my table, and then Steph Smith has her table. And Ben has his table. I'm like, we just do this with, like, kind of like,

Yeah. I I Yeah. Exactly. I could tell you exactly. I have memories of you playing the game, not like a bench warmer. So anyways, but the my point is these dinner tape, like, basically just like a table, And whether that table is like you're playing poker or you're eating food or something like that, just like a round table of like eight people where the expectation is that, hey, we're all here to get to know each other. Like, we're all here to talk. And then you kind of can rotate. I think we could do one of those for the MFM community, but we take the, like, ten or fifteen, like, most baller guests. So it's like Andrew Wilkinson has his table. And you have your table. I have my table, and then Steph Smith has her table. And Ben has his table. I'm like, we just do this with, like, kind of like,

05:59

Well known business people. We take, you know, we get whoever, you know, our famous guest, so Rob Dierdek, or we get biology or whatever. We get some of these people to show up.

Well known business people. We take, you know, we get whoever, you know, our famous guest, so Rob Dierdek, or we get biology or whatever. We get some of these people to show up.

06:08

And then we curate the rest of the guest list is you are interesting, but you're not necessarily famous. So maybe you got a really interesting business. Maybe you're really, like, knowledgeable about some science or domain or something like that. You're just, like, a nerd in your own right.

And then we curate the rest of the guest list is you are interesting, but you're not necessarily famous. So maybe you got a really interesting business. Maybe you're really, like, knowledgeable about some science or domain or something like that. You're just, like, a nerd in your own right.

06:21

But they're all fans. And we basically just set up these tables and it's like, whatever. There's a room of ten tables. And whether it's food or poker or something, there's some activity to do while you're there, just casually while you're talking.

But they're all fans. And we basically just set up these tables and it's like, whatever. There's a room of ten tables. And whether it's food or poker or something, there's some activity to do while you're there, just casually while you're talking.

06:32

And, and you get to hop. You get to rotate between, I don't know, three or four of these tables while you're there, random draws and, and, like, that's the event. I think people have more fun with some something like that because they participate

And, and you get to hop. You get to rotate between, I don't know, three or four of these tables while you're there, random draws and, and, like, that's the event. I think people have more fun with some something like that because they participate

06:43

than sitting in a and watching other people talk. That's my my personal guess. So I would do that for an MFM event. Bro.

than sitting in a and watching other people talk. That's my my personal guess. So I would do that for an MFM event. Bro.

06:50

Great. That's cool. But I have a thousand people coming on a on a can we have ten people and a hundred person tables?

Great. That's cool. But I have a thousand people coming on a on a can we have ten people and a hundred person tables?

06:59

That's just a lot. That's a lot of a lot. You don't have to let all thousand. That was a interest list. That wasn't a you're you're accepted in. Right?

That's just a lot. That's a lot of a lot. You don't have to let all thousand. That was a interest list. That wasn't a you're you're accepted in. Right?

07:08

I don't know. I did I made this was a toilet event. I made it on my phone. I was on toilet and I tweeted it out and it and it worked. Here's what I think you should do. I think you should, whatever. You do something the same way. You're like, alright, everybody. We're all meeting in this junkyard, or we're gonna look for cool scraps. And, like, that'll filter out people you wanna hang out with. It'll be a no headache event. And then separately, I will host this cool event that's well planned.

I don't know. I did I made this was a toilet event. I made it on my phone. I was on toilet and I tweeted it out and it and it worked. Here's what I think you should do. I think you should, whatever. You do something the same way. You're like, alright, everybody. We're all meeting in this junkyard, or we're gonna look for cool scraps. And, like, that'll filter out people you wanna hang out with. It'll be a no headache event. And then separately, I will host this cool event that's well planned.

07:31

And you just push you up to that. You don't have to do any work.

And you just push you up to that. You don't have to do any work.

07:34

Whatever.

Whatever.

07:35

We'll see.

We'll see.

07:37

Can I talk to you about one one thing really quick? And then I wanna hear about your event. Dude, have you listened to the full send podcast?

Can I talk to you about one one thing really quick? And then I wanna hear about your event. Dude, have you listened to the full send podcast?

07:45

Like, not regularly, but I've definitely seen clips, like, when they had Dana White or Mark Cuban, I see a bunch of clips. I don't exactly understand what full send is. But I know they're incredibly popular. Like, I it's I don't know if it's like a boy band where it's, like, four

Like, not regularly, but I've definitely seen clips, like, when they had Dana White or Mark Cuban, I see a bunch of clips. I don't exactly understand what full send is. But I know they're incredibly popular. Like, I it's I don't know if it's like a boy band where it's, like, four

07:59

guys doing something or if it's just the two main guys and the rest are cohost, but it's basically a group of, like So Yeah. Go ahead. Can I explain what what it is roughly?

guys doing something or if it's just the two main guys and the rest are cohost, but it's basically a group of, like So Yeah. Go ahead. Can I explain what what it is roughly?

08:08

So I'm also not an expert, but based that the group is the Milk Boys. That's, like, the main name of the group. Fullcind is, like, their brand and one of their podcasts and stuff like that. But these guys are basically the way I think about it is they are, like, what Jackass was when we were growing up. That's what the Nelk boys are now. So the so Jackass back in the day was basically guys doing, you know, stunts,

So I'm also not an expert, but based that the group is the Milk Boys. That's, like, the main name of the group. Fullcind is, like, their brand and one of their podcasts and stuff like that. But these guys are basically the way I think about it is they are, like, what Jackass was when we were growing up. That's what the Nelk boys are now. So the so Jackass back in the day was basically guys doing, you know, stunts,

08:30

pranks, you know, punching each other at the balls. Basically, a group of guys who are kind of like, they're willing to go all out for your entertainment and for their own amusement. They kind of,

pranks, you know, punching each other at the balls. Basically, a group of guys who are kind of like, they're willing to go all out for your entertainment and for their own amusement. They kind of,

08:39

they they they live a certain lifestyle, and it's kinda like the, like, If you take a boy's, like, fantasy, you just, like, crank it up to twelve. It's like, that's what these guys do. The knelt boys are a little bit like that. They make YouTube videos. They got big on YouTube.

they they they live a certain lifestyle, and it's kinda like the, like, If you take a boy's, like, fantasy, you just, like, crank it up to twelve. It's like, that's what these guys do. The knelt boys are a little bit like that. They make YouTube videos. They got big on YouTube.

08:52

They also have a bunch of brands. So they have one brand that's basically an equivalent of girls gone wild. It's like a paid membership club that's, like, for photos or videos of something. I don't know. I didn't know how that was actually called.

They also have a bunch of brands. So they have one brand that's basically an equivalent of girls gone wild. It's like a paid membership club that's, like, for photos or videos of something. I don't know. I didn't know how that was actually called.

09:04

That's called I don't know. Ben, find the name of that one. So that's one of their businesses that I think is really smart, probably prints money. They have merch that they drop and they've done merch drops. They, like, show the live stream when they're, like, doing it. Obviously, there's a little bit of hype, but, like, whatever. They're basically, like, the Shopify

That's called I don't know. Ben, find the name of that one. So that's one of their businesses that I think is really smart, probably prints money. They have merch that they drop and they've done merch drops. They, like, show the live stream when they're, like, doing it. Obviously, there's a little bit of hype, but, like, whatever. They're basically, like, the Shopify

09:20

dropshipper Bro on steroids, they'll do, like, two or three million dollars worth of sales. In, like, five minutes when they do a drop. So the New York Times

dropshipper Bro on steroids, they'll do, like, two or three million dollars worth of sales. In, like, five minutes when they do a drop. So the New York Times

09:29

well, New York Times said last year they did about eighty million in revenue,

well, New York Times said last year they did about eighty million in revenue,

09:32

which is pretty good. But Right. Fifty million in merchandise this is, I think.

which is pretty good. But Right. Fifty million in merchandise this is, I think.

09:37

Yeah. And then it said they're on track to do eight or maybe at seventy, the year, and this article is a year old. And then, they have this new shtick going on and FT. They all types of crap. But then if you go to that link that I sent you, each guy has, like, a video page, And one of these guys, his name is Steve, and I think this is like a point where I realized I'm out of touch. He's just like giving away a million dollars in every video.

Yeah. And then it said they're on track to do eight or maybe at seventy, the year, and this article is a year old. And then, they have this new shtick going on and FT. They all types of crap. But then if you go to that link that I sent you, each guy has, like, a video page, And one of these guys, his name is Steve, and I think this is like a point where I realized I'm out of touch. He's just like giving away a million dollars in every video.

10:01

Literally, like It's mister Beast play book. But he's like giving two he's like here, I just gave this guy a hundred thousand dollar watch. I just gave this family two million dollars in all these videos, he goes, yeah. I'm gonna go, give this guy a car. And then he was with Dana, and he goes, I'm gonna, Dana, I just got this four hundred thousand dollar van made. It's yours.

Literally, like It's mister Beast play book. But he's like giving two he's like here, I just gave this guy a hundred thousand dollar watch. I just gave this family two million dollars in all these videos, he goes, yeah. I'm gonna go, give this guy a car. And then he was with Dana, and he goes, I'm gonna, Dana, I just got this four hundred thousand dollar van made. It's yours.

10:19

On one of the videos, they gave a guy two hundred fifty thousand in cash or his birthday. On another thing, they're giving away two that thousand dollars just to her family in the like, so whatever, find videos, but he's doing these multiple times a month. These guys are gonna run out of money. Right?

On one of the videos, they gave a guy two hundred fifty thousand in cash or his birthday. On another thing, they're giving away two that thousand dollars just to her family in the like, so whatever, find videos, but he's doing these multiple times a month. These guys are gonna run out of money. Right?

10:37

I have no idea how they give this much away or if they actually give it away. It's so much. If it's actually just like, you know, you know, like,

I have no idea how they give this much away or if they actually give it away. It's so much. If it's actually just like, you know, you know, like,

10:45

a stage thing or if there's some, like, caveats or whatever. I have no idea. They show the guy's

a stage thing or if there's some, like, caveats or whatever. I have no idea. They show the guy's

10:51

apartment, and he's got,

apartment, and he's got,

10:54

his watch collection. And I know a little bit of white watches. It's literally three million dollars worth of Rolex's.

his watch collection. And I know a little bit of white watches. It's literally three million dollars worth of Rolex's.

10:57

And then it's, like, in a four million dollars. I believe that they could have dope stuff, but get literally giving away millions of dollars. You're kinda crazy. And if I look at his YouTube channel, he does do that sometimes, but, like, he has other ones, like, Here's my three million dollar man cave. Here's, you know,

And then it's, like, in a four million dollars. I believe that they could have dope stuff, but get literally giving away millions of dollars. You're kinda crazy. And if I look at his YouTube channel, he does do that sometimes, but, like, he has other ones, like, Here's my three million dollar man cave. Here's, you know,

11:11

here's me, you know, whatever buying this car or racing this car. So that that's a little different than giving it away. But,

here's me, you know, whatever buying this car or racing this car. So that that's a little different than giving it away. But,

11:18

I know, like, so did you watch when mister Beast was doing this when he would go and he would basically give away thirty thousand, fifty thousand dollars. Or he'd go into a Twitch stream that has, like, two viewers. He would just drop twenty grand in a donation and the person would freak out and that that clip would go viral. Like, Yeah. Did you see those? And do you know how he was doing those?

I know, like, so did you watch when mister Beast was doing this when he would go and he would basically give away thirty thousand, fifty thousand dollars. Or he'd go into a Twitch stream that has, like, two viewers. He would just drop twenty grand in a donation and the person would freak out and that that clip would go viral. Like, Yeah. Did you see those? And do you know how he was doing those?

11:36

I I know, I know they exist, and I saw them. I don't know, like, the anything about behind behind it.

I I know, I know they exist, and I saw them. I don't know, like, the anything about behind behind it.

11:42

One of the things that he was doing, I don't know if this is the full story. Ben, maybe, you know, your friends with mister Pees, so maybe you you know, you know,

One of the things that he was doing, I don't know if this is the full story. Ben, maybe, you know, your friends with mister Pees, so maybe you you know, you know,

11:49

He seems to consider you one of his top three closest friends.

He seems to consider you one of his top three closest friends.

11:53

That's his plan.

That's his plan.

11:55

You may know better. But I remember meeting one guy who worked at this site called

You may know better. But I remember meeting one guy who worked at this site called

12:00

Quid,

Quid,

12:00

quid, some of that quid, I think it was. And basically, quid was, like, these, like, I don't know, little collectible stickers and cards or something like that. It was kinda like aimed at a teenage audience. And what they did was they would go to mister Beast, and they would say, hey. We'll pay you fifty thousand dollars for sponsor video. And the the genius of mister Beast was he was like, Cool. But here's what we're gonna do.

quid, some of that quid, I think it was. And basically, quid was, like, these, like, I don't know, little collectible stickers and cards or something like that. It was kinda like aimed at a teenage audience. And what they did was they would go to mister Beast, and they would say, hey. We'll pay you fifty thousand dollars for sponsor video. And the the genius of mister Beast was he was like, Cool. But here's what we're gonna do.

12:21

The that's not you paying me for a shout out midway through one of my videos. Let's make the video about using fifty thousand dollars in an interesting way. How about that? And so he would do these videos where he would be like, I'm gonna go to this coffee shop, and I'm gonna tip the barista

The that's not you paying me for a shout out midway through one of my videos. Let's make the video about using fifty thousand dollars in an interesting way. How about that? And so he would do these videos where he would be like, I'm gonna go to this coffee shop, and I'm gonna tip the barista

12:35

fifteen thousand dollars. And let's see her reaction. And he would go and he would tip her. She would have this crazy reaction. He'd be like, thanks so much to our guys at Quiv, who made this possible.

fifteen thousand dollars. And let's see her reaction. And he would go and he would tip her. She would have this crazy reaction. He'd be like, thanks so much to our guys at Quiv, who made this possible.

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You know, go check them out. They do this thing. Right? That video would get, like, five million or ten million views. And so for the for Quibber or whatever, they were like, dude, this is great. Like, we're getting way more bang for our buck than any other influencer shout out we're doing. So then they would up the ante. They would do fifty thousand, hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, because each video is getting like ten million views. And it was this, like, perfectly,

You know, go check them out. They do this thing. Right? That video would get, like, five million or ten million views. And so for the for Quibber or whatever, they were like, dude, this is great. Like, we're getting way more bang for our buck than any other influencer shout out we're doing. So then they would up the ante. They would do fifty thousand, hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, because each video is getting like ten million views. And it was this, like, perfectly,

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like, I forgot what it's called in biology where, like, the parasite actually helps you. It, like, sucks out the toxins of the parasites getting food, but you're also getting healed. It was basically, like, a symbiotic relationship like that where

like, I forgot what it's called in biology where, like, the parasite actually helps you. It, like, sucks out the toxins of the parasites getting food, but you're also getting healed. It was basically, like, a symbiotic relationship like that where

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the

the

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the brand was basically putting up loads of cash, and he was using that to create huge amounts of views and subscribers to bake himself the biggest I don't think these guys have that's cool. I don't think these guys have sponsors.

the brand was basically putting up loads of cash, and he was using that to create huge amounts of views and subscribers to bake himself the biggest I don't think these guys have that's cool. I don't think these guys have sponsors.

13:30

Well, they must have it somewhere. Right? Like, the the model must be that either it's the same thing. The money comes in one one door, then they reinvest it in stuff like this because they know that seems to be a pretty good formula. I give away, you know, I'm I'm gonna give this family in the hood a hundred thousand dollars.

Well, they must have it somewhere. Right? Like, the the model must be that either it's the same thing. The money comes in one one door, then they reinvest it in stuff like this because they know that seems to be a pretty good formula. I give away, you know, I'm I'm gonna give this family in the hood a hundred thousand dollars.

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You know, let's see what happens and it's him standing with, like, three, you know, three banks of people from no Home Depot. That's literally the the second most recent video, and it's got two point seven million views. So clearly that works. This video will monetize.

You know, let's see what happens and it's him standing with, like, three, you know, three banks of people from no Home Depot. That's literally the the second most recent video, and it's got two point seven million views. So clearly that works. This video will monetize.

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No. On top of that, that's that's their whole stick because they got banned. They can't monetize their videos.

No. On top of that, that's that's their whole stick because they got banned. They can't monetize their videos.

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Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't I don't know how it's sustainable. Maybe it's not sustainable. But by the way And it's also explicit. I don't think you could put ads on a in an explicit channel,

Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't I don't know how it's sustainable. Maybe it's not sustainable. But by the way And it's also explicit. I don't think you could put ads on a in an explicit channel,

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but just like the economics behind what these guys are doing,

but just like the economics behind what these guys are doing,

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it's it's it's outrageous to me. Something is crazy. I I

it's it's it's outrageous to me. Something is crazy. I I

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I I don't think I'm, though. I I think when I see this and I predict that they're gonna go broke, I don't think I'm the crazy one.

I I don't think I'm, though. I I think when I see this and I predict that they're gonna go broke, I don't think I'm the crazy one.

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Yeah. Baby. I I could see that. I could also see these things being money printers. So, like, in the same way that I think the Jackass franchise ultimately was successful, right? You see, like,

Yeah. Baby. I I could see that. I could also see these things being money printers. So, like, in the same way that I think the Jackass franchise ultimately was successful, right? You see, like,

14:36

Oh, dude, there's like a a midget in a thong, you know, kicking this other guy in the balls. You're like, well, this doesn't seem like good business. But in actuality, as long as they have a good man, as long as they have their Chris Jenner in the background, that's like, yeah, go act the fool. Like, this is this is what drives ratings, then this will work. And, like, the New York Times headline about them is

Oh, dude, there's like a a midget in a thong, you know, kicking this other guy in the balls. You're like, well, this doesn't seem like good business. But in actuality, as long as they have a good man, as long as they have their Chris Jenner in the background, that's like, yeah, go act the fool. Like, this is this is what drives ratings, then this will work. And, like, the New York Times headline about them is

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what won't the Nelk boys do? And it says, like, how's like, that's a brand. Right? That's a really powerful, valuable brand to own is

what won't the Nelk boys do? And it says, like, how's like, that's a brand. Right? That's a really powerful, valuable brand to own is

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The question isn't what do they do? It's what they what won't they do? It's like they do pranks, parties, crude humor. They get in trouble, but the backlash is the brand. That's literally the the headline. Would they go first? I don't know. I don't know enough about them, but, you know, I'm a I'm actually a fan of what they do. I think they're pretty cool. We should get them on the pod. I wanna hear hear their business. I agree. I think one of the their manager asked to come on maybe we can talk to them. I heard,

The question isn't what do they do? It's what they what won't they do? It's like they do pranks, parties, crude humor. They get in trouble, but the backlash is the brand. That's literally the the headline. Would they go first? I don't know. I don't know enough about them, but, you know, I'm a I'm actually a fan of what they do. I think they're pretty cool. We should get them on the pod. I wanna hear hear their business. I agree. I think one of the their manager asked to come on maybe we can talk to them. I heard,

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a story about a friend, a person I know who made sixty million dollars a handful of years ago, living in living out of their car now.

a story about a friend, a person I know who made sixty million dollars a handful of years ago, living in living out of their car now.

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I learned that this weekend.

I learned that this weekend.

15:34

So I know a person who made sixty million dollars, like ten years ago,

So I know a person who made sixty million dollars, like ten years ago,

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And now they are homeless.

And now they are homeless.

15:41

Yeah.

Yeah.

15:42

That's that's that's not even crazy. That's normal, bro. Like,

That's that's that's not even crazy. That's normal, bro. Like,

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Jack Dorsey is, like, you know, starts two multi billion dollar companies and then, like, actively tries to dress, like, you know, a homeless guy. Like, you know, That's that's the thing you do when you get rich. You can then go on some journey to, like, find the meaning of life. In fact, I was telling somebody this the other day. We were reminiscing. It's dude at the event. I was like, dude, I haven't seen you in so many years. Like, oh, when was the last time I saw you? It was like, remember we were advising that kid on his company,

Jack Dorsey is, like, you know, starts two multi billion dollar companies and then, like, actively tries to dress, like, you know, a homeless guy. Like, you know, That's that's the thing you do when you get rich. You can then go on some journey to, like, find the meaning of life. In fact, I was telling somebody this the other day. We were reminiscing. It's dude at the event. I was like, dude, I haven't seen you in so many years. Like, oh, when was the last time I saw you? It was like, remember we were advising that kid on his company,

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and we were both afterwards, like, Yeah. But that's never gonna work. Like, you know,

and we were both afterwards, like, Yeah. But that's never gonna work. Like, you know,

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you know, I a good kid, but, like, you know, he'll be maybe he'll be successful in, like, five years. And then his company currently is, like, a multibillion dollar company. And I was, like, now that motherfucker's twenty five years old running around, like, with a huge beard trying figure out, like, basically trying to figure out the meaning of life. Like, oh, shit. You're on a spiritual journey already. Damn it. You're like, you are so far ahead of us after we kind of were joking around about how you, you know, you you don't have this thing figured out. That is the, like, the classic

you know, I a good kid, but, like, you know, he'll be maybe he'll be successful in, like, five years. And then his company currently is, like, a multibillion dollar company. And I was, like, now that motherfucker's twenty five years old running around, like, with a huge beard trying figure out, like, basically trying to figure out the meaning of life. Like, oh, shit. You're on a spiritual journey already. Damn it. You're like, you are so far ahead of us after we kind of were joking around about how you, you know, you you don't have this thing figured out. That is the, like, the classic

16:42

tech cliche is to, like,

tech cliche is to, like,

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be like, get I made all this money so that I'm gonna live, like, somebody who has no money. That's, like, the stereotype. I want I wanna get to your event, but really quick. One more thing, because this is the new cliche.

be like, get I made all this money so that I'm gonna live, like, somebody who has no money. That's, like, the stereotype. I want I wanna get to your event, but really quick. One more thing, because this is the new cliche.

16:55

So I hate talking about these guys, but Elon,

So I hate talking about these guys, but Elon,

16:59

in the Wall Street Journal, it came out yesterday that Elon Musk slept with Sergei Brin, the guy started Google, his wife. Right. And Sergei aren't friends at all. Elon tweeted two things that were hilarious The warranty goes, this isn't true. I haven't had sex in forever.

in the Wall Street Journal, it came out yesterday that Elon Musk slept with Sergei Brin, the guy started Google, his wife. Right. And Sergei aren't friends at all. Elon tweeted two things that were hilarious The warranty goes, this isn't true. I haven't had sex in forever.

17:15

I haven't had sex in months. Yeah. I've been in the next six.

I haven't had sex in months. Yeah. I've been in the next six.

17:19

Sigh. Oh, yeah. Like a middle school, like a middle school girl. And then the next thing that he tweeted was, here's

Sigh. Oh, yeah. Like a middle school, like a middle school girl. And then the next thing that he tweeted was, here's

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me and Serge hanging out right now on a boat. And it's them, like, drinking wine together, like, party. Did he post a picture?

me and Serge hanging out right now on a boat. And it's them, like, drinking wine together, like, party. Did he post a picture?

17:32

Yes. Or Yeah. Either he did or someone did and he rep he replied to it, said, yeah, that was us literally yesterday.

Yes. Or Yeah. Either he did or someone did and he rep he replied to it, said, yeah, that was us literally yesterday.

17:39

That's so funny.

That's so funny.

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Yeah. It's so funny.

Yeah. It's so funny.

17:43

Here's what I here's how I was feeling about this. I was like, alright.

Here's what I here's how I was feeling about this. I was like, alright.

17:47

I saw the saw the news break or whatever. It was like Scoop on the Wall Street Journal, Scoop, exclusive scoop, Elon Musk, sleeping with whatever blah blah blah.

I saw the saw the news break or whatever. It was like Scoop on the Wall Street Journal, Scoop, exclusive scoop, Elon Musk, sleeping with whatever blah blah blah.

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And,

And,

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And I was like, okay. That's kinda interesting, I guess. Like, alright. Got some TMZ shit.

And I was like, okay. That's kinda interesting, I guess. Like, alright. Got some TMZ shit.

18:03

And, I was like, well, pretty sad for, like, you know, the Wall Street. It was the Wall Street Journal. I feel pretty sad that that's like the Wall Street Journal thing, but of course, I get it. If I had that story, I'd pro I'd publish it too. No. No doubt.

And, I was like, well, pretty sad for, like, you know, the Wall Street. It was the Wall Street Journal. I feel pretty sad that that's like the Wall Street Journal thing, but of course, I get it. If I had that story, I'd pro I'd publish it too. No. No doubt.

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Then he tweets out, like, the, like, the thing, like, not true and haven't had sex in months sigh.

Then he tweets out, like, the, like, the thing, like, not true and haven't had sex in months sigh.

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And I was like, now another sad thing. Like, first, Walster Journal disappointed me. Then Elon Musk disappointed me. Like, dude, I want my billionaires, like, being cool, not like dude, that was, like, my MSN

And I was like, now another sad thing. Like, first, Walster Journal disappointed me. Then Elon Musk disappointed me. Like, dude, I want my billionaires, like, being cool, not like dude, that was, like, my MSN

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like, away message, you know, just to cry for attention

like, away message, you know, just to cry for attention

18:37

back in middle school or high school. It's like, oh, man. Wouldn't be nice to get, like, I wonder what a kiss feels like, you know, some shit like that. It's like, dude,

back in middle school or high school. It's like, oh, man. Wouldn't be nice to get, like, I wonder what a kiss feels like, you know, some shit like that. It's like, dude,

18:47

lame. And then I was like, well,

lame. And then I was like, well,

18:49

did the wall streeters make that up? Because that's even labor. So it was just like a lame sandwich that I was not into.

did the wall streeters make that up? Because that's even labor. So it was just like a lame sandwich that I was not into.

18:56

But I just thought it was hilarious how he he we did a picture of him in Sergei just hanging out.

But I just thought it was hilarious how he he we did a picture of him in Sergei just hanging out.

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I enjoyed this drama. I'm here for it. I don't care about the cars. I don't care about the solar stuff. I just like this type of crap.

I enjoyed this drama. I'm here for it. I don't care about the cars. I don't care about the solar stuff. I just like this type of crap.

19:08

Yeah. Somebody had this great tweet. They were like,

Yeah. Somebody had this great tweet. They were like,

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Elon Musk is like, you know,

Elon Musk is like, you know,

19:14

he's on some pirate shit. He's taking over companies like Twitter. He's trying to, like, conquer new lands like Mars. He's sleeping with his friend's girlfriends. Like, he's he's on the he's on that pirate shit. I was, like, Yeah. It's true. That's cool. If true, but it sounds like, you know, maybe this one is not actually true. Alright. What's this what's this event?

he's on some pirate shit. He's taking over companies like Twitter. He's trying to, like, conquer new lands like Mars. He's sleeping with his friend's girlfriends. Like, he's he's on the he's on that pirate shit. I was, like, Yeah. It's true. That's cool. If true, but it sounds like, you know, maybe this one is not actually true. Alright. What's this what's this event?

19:32

By the way, we forgot on the milk boys, they have, like, their beer, which I think is also, like, a big thing. Their happy dad, like, seltzer or beer, whatever the heck that is.

By the way, we forgot on the milk boys, they have, like, their beer, which I think is also, like, a big thing. Their happy dad, like, seltzer or beer, whatever the heck that is.

19:41

Happy Dad is like everywhere on Instagram. Like, it's like the main brand. I've seen a lot of people drink it. Yeah. I've seen a ton of people drink. Alright. So I wanna tell you some things about this event. And these are gonna be kind of rapid fire little nuggets.

Happy Dad is like everywhere on Instagram. Like, it's like the main brand. I've seen a lot of people drink it. Yeah. I've seen a ton of people drink. Alright. So I wanna tell you some things about this event. And these are gonna be kind of rapid fire little nuggets.

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You can choose to say the following. You can either say

You can choose to say the following. You can either say

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That's stupid, and I'll simply move on. I won't defend it. You'll say, that's cool. I have nothing to add, and I'll simply move on. Or we could talk about any of these things. Alright. So I go to this event in LA.

That's stupid, and I'll simply move on. I won't defend it. You'll say, that's cool. I have nothing to add, and I'll simply move on. Or we could talk about any of these things. Alright. So I go to this event in LA.

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My buddy, Romine, who, we run our fund together. He hosts this event.

My buddy, Romine, who, we run our fund together. He hosts this event.

20:16

And it's basically like athletes and big shot investors. So at this event, we're, like,

And it's basically like athletes and big shot investors. So at this event, we're, like,

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three or four owners of like, sports teams. So these are basically, like, billionaires or billionaire families, like legacy families. How did he give these people?

three or four owners of like, sports teams. So these are basically, like, billionaires or billionaire families, like legacy families. How did he give these people?

20:31

They just wanted to come, I guess. I don't know. He just cold reached out that he's not paying anybody and it's a free event. So there's not there's like no money to be made, but this is just like in network.

They just wanted to come, I guess. I don't know. He just cold reached out that he's not paying anybody and it's a free event. So there's not there's like no money to be made, but this is just like in network.

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Then there's pro athletes, mostly retired athletes, but some active players, like kind of like some guys from the Lakers, some guys from other other teams that are younger guys, but then some older guys that are retired, and they're, like, on to the next phase of their their business life. And they maybe are doing content now. They got like a media brand, or they're doing real estate or whatever. And so the idea was let's get together, like, fifty piece people from the world of sports and fifty people from the world of, like, tech and business. And let's see what happens. So I went last year. I went this year again.

Then there's pro athletes, mostly retired athletes, but some active players, like kind of like some guys from the Lakers, some guys from other other teams that are younger guys, but then some older guys that are retired, and they're, like, on to the next phase of their their business life. And they maybe are doing content now. They got like a media brand, or they're doing real estate or whatever. And so the idea was let's get together, like, fifty piece people from the world of sports and fifty people from the world of, like, tech and business. And let's see what happens. So I went last year. I went this year again.

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And I have a couple of, like, little stories. So the first is,

And I have a couple of, like, little stories. So the first is,

21:12

I'm gonna tell you the there was one talk That was good. There was a it was like a bunch of talks on the day of the conference.

I'm gonna tell you the there was one talk That was good. There was a it was like a bunch of talks on the day of the conference.

21:19

There was only one talk that I thought was good. And the the by the way, that's shitting on myself too. I I was I hosted a panel too. I didn't think was very good. But the one was really good. It was basic lessons from billion dollar founders.

There was only one talk that I thought was good. And the the by the way, that's shitting on myself too. I I was I hosted a panel too. I didn't think was very good. But the one was really good. It was basic lessons from billion dollar founders.

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Yes. So on stage was the CEO of Carta, So,

Yes. So on stage was the CEO of Carta, So,

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Corta, they do cap table management. They're a multi billion dollar company.

Corta, they do cap table management. They're a multi billion dollar company.

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Something called,

Something called,

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shoot. What was it? It's like a a therapy app. The name will come to me. It's basically, like, better health. It's like a better health, but it's not them. It's like some other complex stuff.

shoot. What was it? It's like a a therapy app. The name will come to me. It's basically, like, better health. It's like a better health, but it's not them. It's like some other complex stuff.

21:51

Another one. But basically, they they basically do, like, therapy and mental health,

Another one. But basically, they they basically do, like, therapy and mental health,

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through telemedicine, like online.

through telemedicine, like online.

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And, and there's another one that was, like, some hospital software, Athelos, and then there was, this most interesting one is something called relativity space. And by the way, You could basically tell, you know,

And, and there's another one that was, like, some hospital software, Athelos, and then there was, this most interesting one is something called relativity space. And by the way, You could basically tell, you know,

22:08

I wouldn't say that the most interesting person at a conference is always the one who dresses differently.

I wouldn't say that the most interesting person at a conference is always the one who dresses differently.

22:14

But somebody who's dressed very differently is almost always very interesting at these conferences.

But somebody who's dressed very differently is almost always very interesting at these conferences.

22:19

Last year when I was there, I told you I saw this kid who looked like a breakdancer wearing this tie dye shirt with like a black stud earring. It looked different than every other, you know, suit in the room, and it was the founder of Bolt, who now has become more famous because he, like, you know, went on these Twitter tirades and bolt as a multi billion dollar company and all this stuff. But I met him there and invested in his company because I was like, this dude's just really interesting. So that happened again. This guy is the founder of relativity space. He's competing with Elon. His two competitors are Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

Last year when I was there, I told you I saw this kid who looked like a breakdancer wearing this tie dye shirt with like a black stud earring. It looked different than every other, you know, suit in the room, and it was the founder of Bolt, who now has become more famous because he, like, you know, went on these Twitter tirades and bolt as a multi billion dollar company and all this stuff. But I met him there and invested in his company because I was like, this dude's just really interesting. So that happened again. This guy is the founder of relativity space. He's competing with Elon. His two competitors are Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

22:45

Like, you know, no big deal. I mean, I'm competing with the world's richest man and, like, second richest man basically. Is this Tim Ellis? Tim Ellis. Yeah. And so just gonna share with you two things. One is this this dude's company is insane. So relativity space, what they do is they three d print rockets,

Like, you know, no big deal. I mean, I'm competing with the world's richest man and, like, second richest man basically. Is this Tim Ellis? Tim Ellis. Yeah. And so just gonna share with you two things. One is this this dude's company is insane. So relativity space, what they do is they three d print rockets,

23:00

and then they send them into space. So, basically, there is a huge huge demand for rocketry. So but the ability to take satellites up to space to do, you know, some scientific missions, whatever. And right now, SpaceX is like the number one. Blue Origin, which is Jeff Bezos's company is number two, and relativity space is number three.

and then they send them into space. So, basically, there is a huge huge demand for rocketry. So but the ability to take satellites up to space to do, you know, some scientific missions, whatever. And right now, SpaceX is like the number one. Blue Origin, which is Jeff Bezos's company is number two, and relativity space is number three.

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But they kinda have a a a a differentiator, which is All those other companies, like, to build a rocket, they need, like, whatever, hundreds of parts, like specialty parts,

But they kinda have a a a a differentiator, which is All those other companies, like, to build a rocket, they need, like, whatever, hundreds of parts, like specialty parts,

23:25

and they might three d print individual parts, but, like, The whole thing is like a very expensive complex structure that where a million things can go wrong, whereas these guys basically three d print the entire rocket.

and they might three d print individual parts, but, like, The whole thing is like a very expensive complex structure that where a million things can go wrong, whereas these guys basically three d print the entire rocket.

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With only a couple extra parts.

With only a couple extra parts.

23:37

And, and so because of that, they're, like, you know, cheaper and whatever. He said this line, this throwaway line. He's like, he's explaining. He's like, you know, our mission is to make humanity, like, humanity multi planetary,

And, and so because of that, they're, like, you know, cheaper and whatever. He said this line, this throwaway line. He's like, he's explaining. He's like, you know, our mission is to make humanity, like, humanity multi planetary,

23:48

through three d printing rockets. We're one of only two companies on the Earth that has mission of making the human race like multi multi planetary.

through three d printing rockets. We're one of only two companies on the Earth that has mission of making the human race like multi multi planetary.

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The other is SpaceX. He goes, the launch bar market today is eight billion a year. So eight billion gets spent launching things into space and is growing to thirty billion. There's really only three companies that possibly can serve this right now.

The other is SpaceX. He goes, the launch bar market today is eight billion a year. So eight billion gets spent launching things into space and is growing to thirty billion. There's really only three companies that possibly can serve this right now.

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And he's like, you know, we in the last three months, we have we've sold over one point two billion in, launch in launch sales.

And he's like, you know, we in the last three months, we have we've sold over one point two billion in, launch in launch sales.

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I was like, what?

I was like, what?

24:18

Dude, he's and he start he started the company who is twenty five. He's thirty two now. So he used to work at Jeff Bezos's company bluer, as an intern. His Wikipedia says as an intern. And he was trying to do three d printing there. He was like, hey, I think this is like one of the ways we can dramatically reduce the costs and complexity of rockets. And it was like, yeah, nice R and D, but, like, it wasn't the main way they were doing things, so he left and he starts this thing. He goes, we have eight hundred fifty employees. Five hundred are X SpaceX.

Dude, he's and he start he started the company who is twenty five. He's thirty two now. So he used to work at Jeff Bezos's company bluer, as an intern. His Wikipedia says as an intern. And he was trying to do three d printing there. He was like, hey, I think this is like one of the ways we can dramatically reduce the costs and complexity of rockets. And it was like, yeah, nice R and D, but, like, it wasn't the main way they were doing things, so he left and he starts this thing. He goes, we have eight hundred fifty employees. Five hundred are X SpaceX.

24:43

I thought that was literally the funniest shit anybody could say. I was like, what kind of absurd statement is that? That's so amazing to me.

I thought that was literally the funniest shit anybody could say. I was like, what kind of absurd statement is that? That's so amazing to me.

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And he's like, you know, we have a launch site now. That was like the big progress of last year. We have a launch site. So we're gonna be doing our first big, like,

And he's like, you know, we have a launch site now. That was like the big progress of last year. We have a launch site. So we're gonna be doing our first big, like,

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I I don't know if our first big or next big launch there.

I I don't know if our first big or next big launch there.

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There are only four launch sites in the country. None have been built since nineteen sixty, and we now have exclusive rights to one for the next twenty five years. It's like, you know, he's basically because in this talk, he's like, what makes a company worth so much? Because people will see me. Okay. I'm a young guy. I'm a young guy. Company's not that old, and it's worth how many billions of dollars? Like, that's crazy. And he's like, well, here's what we did. He's like,

There are only four launch sites in the country. None have been built since nineteen sixty, and we now have exclusive rights to one for the next twenty five years. It's like, you know, he's basically because in this talk, he's like, what makes a company worth so much? Because people will see me. Okay. I'm a young guy. I'm a young guy. Company's not that old, and it's worth how many billions of dollars? Like, that's crazy. And he's like, well, here's what we did. He's like,

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We hopped into an emerging wave. So we basically, like, there's surging demand for,

We hopped into an emerging wave. So we basically, like, there's surging demand for,

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for going in for missions and space for satellites and more.

for going in for missions and space for satellites and more.

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There's not enough supply. No. There's basically, like, not much competition. Everybody sort of scared away. So in actuality, like, just going into the space, we're not competing with most companies.

There's not enough supply. No. There's basically, like, not much competition. Everybody sort of scared away. So in actuality, like, just going into the space, we're not competing with most companies.

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The next one is,

The next one is,

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you know, we,

you know, we,

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basically, we're, like, defensibility. We have a launch site. There's only four of these. None have been built in, like, you know, sixty years. And,

basically, we're, like, defensibility. We have a launch site. There's only four of these. None have been built in, like, you know, sixty years. And,

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and we have we have one so, like, you know, we should have to do it. Wanna do this target. What's this have to do with the billionaire lessons?

and we have we have one so, like, you know, we should have to do it. Wanna do this target. What's this have to do with the billionaire lessons?

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Well, these are lessons. What does it take to build a billion dollar company? These are the core element like, defensibility.

Well, these are lessons. What does it take to build a billion dollar company? These are the core element like, defensibility.

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That's, you know, that's one of their motes. The next one is like this, like, this extreme imbalance in supply and demand.

That's, you know, that's one of their motes. The next one is like this, like, this extreme imbalance in supply and demand.

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Dude, how lame must you feel if you're, like, a software guy, like, Carter, like, following this guy?

Dude, how lame must you feel if you're, like, a software guy, like, Carter, like, following this guy?

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You know what I mean? Well, they each had to say their thing. So I'll tell you what each of them said. So this is what this guy was saying. Alright. The next guy, the the telehealth guy, or there's not telehealth. Sorry. The hospital software guy.

You know what I mean? Well, they each had to say their thing. So I'll tell you what each of them said. So this is what this guy was saying. Alright. The next guy, the the telehealth guy, or there's not telehealth. Sorry. The hospital software guy.

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Here's what he said.

Here's what he said.

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You'll like this. Here's what's simpler. He's like he said, yeah. Like, agree with all that stuff.

You'll like this. Here's what's simpler. He's like he said, yeah. Like, agree with all that stuff.

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Here's what we thought about it.

Here's what we thought about it.

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We need to have five hundred salespeople that can sell a million dollars worth of product a year.

We need to have five hundred salespeople that can sell a million dollars worth of product a year.

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Or two hundred fifty, oh, oh, sorry. Five hundred that could sell half a million a year or two hundred fifty that could sell a million dollar as their sales quota per year.

Or two hundred fifty, oh, oh, sorry. Five hundred that could sell half a million a year or two hundred fifty that could sell a million dollar as their sales quota per year.

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So we just work backwards from that. Alright.

So we just work backwards from that. Alright.

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What features products and, like, people do we need to, like, let a salesperson, like, get five hundred salespeople that can sell half a million dollars a year of, like, sales quota. Like, first, is that even possible? Can the can this market support that? Yes. The market is very big. Hospital spent a lot of money in health care. And in our category, they spend more than, you know, much more than that. Okay. Cool. So it's possible. Then he's like, all of our product team, they know. They work for sales. I thought that was very different than what most people say. He's like, well, Silicon Valley loves to preach that, like, product is king, product is the god. You just need a great product. He was like, we build great product if it's gonna help us sell better. And, like, we build great customer support so that it helps us sell better. Everything is in service of sales. So I really like that guy's kinda like one liner approach.

What features products and, like, people do we need to, like, let a salesperson, like, get five hundred salespeople that can sell half a million dollars a year of, like, sales quota. Like, first, is that even possible? Can the can this market support that? Yes. The market is very big. Hospital spent a lot of money in health care. And in our category, they spend more than, you know, much more than that. Okay. Cool. So it's possible. Then he's like, all of our product team, they know. They work for sales. I thought that was very different than what most people say. He's like, well, Silicon Valley loves to preach that, like, product is king, product is the god. You just need a great product. He was like, we build great product if it's gonna help us sell better. And, like, we build great customer support so that it helps us sell better. Everything is in service of sales. So I really like that guy's kinda like one liner approach.

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The carter guy basically was like,

The carter guy basically was like,

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you know, we, he's like, here's how I think about He's like, you need,

you know, we, he's like, here's how I think about He's like, you need,

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you need to you basically, he's like, you wanna find a multi billion dollar wave if you're gonna be a billion dollar company. He's like, so find an emerging wave. So for example, the the telehealth guy, his is that, his was that, mental health coverage was now required. So, like, a bunch of, I don't know if it's like, insurance companies or companies. They were now requiring that, like, mental health is part of a health care package. He's like, that changed. You go second thing that changed was Mental health is getting destigmatized. You're seeing all kinds of famous people talking about mental health. It's not like this taboo subject.

you need to you basically, he's like, you wanna find a multi billion dollar wave if you're gonna be a billion dollar company. He's like, so find an emerging wave. So for example, the the telehealth guy, his is that, his was that, mental health coverage was now required. So, like, a bunch of, I don't know if it's like, insurance companies or companies. They were now requiring that, like, mental health is part of a health care package. He's like, that changed. You go second thing that changed was Mental health is getting destigmatized. You're seeing all kinds of famous people talking about mental health. It's not like this taboo subject.

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Inflections. So there's like regulatory inflections, which is like, alright. Now you could do telemedicine. That's a new thing. There's,

Inflections. So there's like regulatory inflections, which is like, alright. Now you could do telemedicine. That's a new thing. There's,

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cultural inflections, which is, wow, it's not weird to talk in front of camera anymore. And, like, make a video, there's tech technology, techno technological

cultural inflections, which is, wow, it's not weird to talk in front of camera anymore. And, like, make a video, there's tech technology, techno technological

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inflections, which is like, oh, wow. Our phones all have GPS's. So you wanna, like, look for different inflections.

inflections, which is like, oh, wow. Our phones all have GPS's. So you wanna, like, look for different inflections.

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Right. That exact that's exactly what he was saying. And the last one he mentioned was, like, the pandemic was another inflection because it everybody if they needed a doctor visit to do it to avert video on. So it's like a everybody had to try it for this two year period.

Right. That exact that's exactly what he was saying. And the last one he mentioned was, like, the pandemic was another inflection because it everybody if they needed a doctor visit to do it to avert video on. So it's like a everybody had to try it for this two year period.

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And so video visits and telemedicine. Now the hospitals know they need to have it. Doctors know they need to be willing to do this and patients have, like, tried it once.

And so video visits and telemedicine. Now the hospitals know they need to have it. Doctors know they need to be willing to do this and patients have, like, tried it once.

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Alright. The next thing he goes, he goes team. He goes, billion dollar companies are almost never bootstrapped. So you kinda have to know that going in. Like, if you're gonna build a billion dollar company, you almost certainly are gonna raise money because you're gonna hire a plus players. They need to have an a plus mission. And secondly, you need to have high velocity customer acquisition model. And I just thought that phrase is very good. High velocity customer acquisition model. It's something you could just kinda ask yourself. Do I or don't I have a high velocity customer acquisition model? Every business wants one pretty much.

Alright. The next thing he goes, he goes team. He goes, billion dollar companies are almost never bootstrapped. So you kinda have to know that going in. Like, if you're gonna build a billion dollar company, you almost certainly are gonna raise money because you're gonna hire a plus players. They need to have an a plus mission. And secondly, you need to have high velocity customer acquisition model. And I just thought that phrase is very good. High velocity customer acquisition model. It's something you could just kinda ask yourself. Do I or don't I have a high velocity customer acquisition model? Every business wants one pretty much.

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And you gotta say, like, okay, what's our current velocity? So at what rate are we currently adding customers?

And you gotta say, like, okay, what's our current velocity? So at what rate are we currently adding customers?

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How high would it need to be for us to get there? And, like, what are we gonna do to make this this little wheel spin faster?

How high would it need to be for us to get there? And, like, what are we gonna do to make this this little wheel spin faster?

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Alright. But let me assist. I thought that was good. Those four guys There's four people, right, four guys. Yeah. Yeah. Did were they a

Alright. But let me assist. I thought that was good. Those four guys There's four people, right, four guys. Yeah. Yeah. Did were they a

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tired and exhausted looking? And b, do you think they're happy?

tired and exhausted looking? And b, do you think they're happy?

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Alright. We'll give you the scale. The mental health guy honestly looked not tired and happy.

Alright. We'll give you the scale. The mental health guy honestly looked not tired and happy.

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He was, like, fit He didn't have, like, crazy bags under his eyes. He, like, spoke with energy and he was, like, sitting upright. That makes sense. That checks out.

He was, like, fit He didn't have, like, crazy bags under his eyes. He, like, spoke with energy and he was, like, sitting upright. That makes sense. That checks out.

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Carta guy?

Carta guy?

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He looked calm. Like, he didn't look like he was facing death, but he looked like he, like, had been facing death for some extended period of time. He only has five lines up.

He looked calm. Like, he didn't look like he was facing death, but he looked like he, like, had been facing death for some extended period of time. He only has five lines up.

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Yeah. Like, you know, I could tell he wasn't in bad shape at all, but, you know, like, it didn't look like, you know, he was springing around with energy necessarily. Right.

Yeah. Like, you know, I could tell he wasn't in bad shape at all, but, you know, like, it didn't look like, you know, he was springing around with energy necessarily. Right.

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Space guy. That guy looked like he just walk you know, it looked like you just walked out of a room. You know, like, those scenes in Game of Thrones were, like, Oh, shoot. We're going to war and the guy that gets up and out of his bed scramble, like, four

Space guy. That guy looked like he just walk you know, it looked like you just walked out of a room. You know, like, those scenes in Game of Thrones were, like, Oh, shoot. We're going to war and the guy that gets up and out of his bed scramble, like, four

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nude women. And he's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Let me just go do my next thing. That's how this guy lived. He had the swagger of a guy in Game of Thrones who was just sleeping with four women, four beautiful women. He had the Turin Lannister Energy.

nude women. And he's like, oh, okay. Yeah. Let me just go do my next thing. That's how this guy lived. He had the swagger of a guy in Game of Thrones who was just sleeping with four women, four beautiful women. He had the Turin Lannister Energy.

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He and then that's when he was like, yeah, a billion dollars in sales in the last three months. And, like, you know, we have five hundred x basic employees. Yeah. They leave Elon to come from So he seemed like he was happy. That's the energy he was carrying. He looked happy. Damn.

He and then that's when he was like, yeah, a billion dollars in sales in the last three months. And, like, you know, we have five hundred x basic employees. Yeah. They leave Elon to come from So he seemed like he was happy. That's the energy he was carrying. He looked happy. Damn.

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Well, fuck this guy is all right.

Well, fuck this guy is all right.

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I was sitting with him at lunch, and he was asking questions to everybody else. And, like, that was one of the most that was one of the coolest parts of this event. I don't know how they did But nobody had an ego. Like, everybody who was there I don't know if they just filter people out who had egos, or they just, like, everybody got the vibe, which is, like, Everybody here is equally valuable.

I was sitting with him at lunch, and he was asking questions to everybody else. And, like, that was one of the most that was one of the coolest parts of this event. I don't know how they did But nobody had an ego. Like, everybody who was there I don't know if they just filter people out who had egos, or they just, like, everybody got the vibe, which is, like, Everybody here is equally valuable.

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Be curious about others. You're not just like the star. And all these people are used to being the star. It's like, yeah, you're you own that in that that NBA team. You own that football team. Or, like, you're, like, this superstar, like, you know, the guy on my panel with me, I think he had, like, you know, ninety million dollar. He had a ninety he just signed, like, a ninety million dollar contract. He's, like, one of the highest paid NFL players.

Be curious about others. You're not just like the star. And all these people are used to being the star. It's like, yeah, you're you own that in that that NBA team. You own that football team. Or, like, you're, like, this superstar, like, you know, the guy on my panel with me, I think he had, like, you know, ninety million dollar. He had a ninety he just signed, like, a ninety million dollar contract. He's, like, one of the highest paid NFL players.

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And, the guy was like, dude, I'm just here to learn, man. I would love to, you know, subscribe to your newsletter and blah blah blah. I'm like, wow, this is incredible. You are gonna go so far in life because

And, the guy was like, dude, I'm just here to learn, man. I would love to, you know, subscribe to your newsletter and blah blah blah. I'm like, wow, this is incredible. You are gonna go so far in life because

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You are obviously skilled and successful, but you're so humble. It's crazy. Damn. How many people are there?

You are obviously skilled and successful, but you're so humble. It's crazy. Damn. How many people are there?

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About a hundred hundred twenty maybe. Romine organized this?

About a hundred hundred twenty maybe. Romine organized this?

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Yeah. So, basically, Romine and then tribe, which is like a VC Fund.

Yeah. So, basically, Romine and then tribe, which is like a VC Fund.

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Tribe was one of the hosts and then TPG, which is like one of the biggest private equity companies in the world. Like, why is this guy working with you? Hundred twenty billion dollar. What? Why is this guy working with you?

Tribe was one of the hosts and then TPG, which is like one of the biggest private equity companies in the world. Like, why is this guy working with you? Hundred twenty billion dollar. What? Why is this guy working with you?

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Bro, I always have the Turian Linner's standard of energy regardless of what what my situation is.

Bro, I always have the Turian Linner's standard of energy regardless of what what my situation is.

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Holy crap. This guy's amazing. Well, that's badass. That was in LA.

Holy crap. This guy's amazing. Well, that's badass. That was in LA.

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I was in LA. I'm gonna give you a couple other things that I I took away from this.

I was in LA. I'm gonna give you a couple other things that I I took away from this.

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Ben. So Ben Levy, who's not producer, Ben, my business partner, Ben,

Ben. So Ben Levy, who's not producer, Ben, my business partner, Ben,

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he has a superpower that we talk about. Now have I told you about his superpower? His superpower,

he has a superpower that we talk about. Now have I told you about his superpower? His superpower,

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to me, is,

to me, is,

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people just tell him shit, and he just smiles and laughs, and then he uses it against them.

people just tell him shit, and he just smiles and laughs, and then he uses it against them.

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If if he needs to. Fucking trust magnet. Yeah. I don't know what he does. Everybody trusts him. Like me and you, I've known you for, I don't know, how long. It was, like, eight years. Spent time together. We've gone through ups and downs of adversity. We've I've seen each other. Whatever. We know each other very well. You might have met Ben twice in your life.

If if he needs to. Fucking trust magnet. Yeah. I don't know what he does. Everybody trusts him. Like me and you, I've known you for, I don't know, how long. It was, like, eight years. Spent time together. We've gone through ups and downs of adversity. We've I've seen each other. Whatever. We know each other very well. You might have met Ben twice in your life.

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But even you will be like, if you if there's something interesting or something going on, you, like, text Ben, like, do my new business doing awesome or something like that? And he just has that pull with people. Everybody wants to talk to Ben. Everyone wants to tell him what he's so enthusiastic.

But even you will be like, if you if there's something interesting or something going on, you, like, text Ben, like, do my new business doing awesome or something like that? And he just has that pull with people. Everybody wants to talk to Ben. Everyone wants to tell him what he's so enthusiastic.

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I don't know what it is, but I saw his super on blast. So I'm gonna tell you a little story here. And I don't even know how much we can take away from this. I'm just gonna kind of explain that it happened just so that just because I think it was amazing and because I think that

I don't know what it is, but I saw his super on blast. So I'm gonna tell you a little story here. And I don't even know how much we can take away from this. I'm just gonna kind of explain that it happened just so that just because I think it was amazing and because I think that

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If there is a way to learn this skill, everybody should learn it. I'm trying to learn it myself, so I'm gonna talk out loud about it. So we go to this event. At the event, I get a text from Ben, been sitting across the room. We we split up at the events. We don't always just sit together and just only talk to each other because that's kinda defeats the purpose. And he's like, yo, the dude next to you

If there is a way to learn this skill, everybody should learn it. I'm trying to learn it myself, so I'm gonna talk out loud about it. So we go to this event. At the event, I get a text from Ben, been sitting across the room. We we split up at the events. We don't always just sit together and just only talk to each other because that's kinda defeats the purpose. And he's like, yo, the dude next to you

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is awesome. And I go, who? He goes, he goes, that's Chris Johnson, or that's this guy who he trains like some of the best NBA players on the planet.

is awesome. And I go, who? He goes, he goes, that's Chris Johnson, or that's this guy who he trains like some of the best NBA players on the planet.

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And I was like, oh, really, like, I'm a big NBA fan. I was like, I I don't know this guy. Like, he must follow him on Instagram. Like, Ben's just, like, even deeper down the rabbit hole. Sounds like, okay. Cool. But I was like, I don't know what to do with that information. Like, I guess, like, if the opportunity kind of presents itself, I'll I'll go introduce myself. Like, you know, I have nothing to Yeah. I I don't know how to force my way. And he seems busy right now, but okay.

And I was like, oh, really, like, I'm a big NBA fan. I was like, I I don't know this guy. Like, he must follow him on Instagram. Like, Ben's just, like, even deeper down the rabbit hole. Sounds like, okay. Cool. But I was like, I don't know what to do with that information. Like, I guess, like, if the opportunity kind of presents itself, I'll I'll go introduce myself. Like, you know, I have nothing to Yeah. I I don't know how to force my way. And he seems busy right now, but okay.

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Ben does something where he I don't know I don't know what he did, but he approached this guy. Ben approached this guy. And he starts talking to him. And I I think two things happen. I think number one,

Ben does something where he I don't know I don't know what he did, but he approached this guy. Ben approached this guy. And he starts talking to him. And I I think two things happen. I think number one,

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in a room full of the guys who are usually on screen,

in a room full of the guys who are usually on screen,

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This guy who himself is obviously like a heavy hitter in his space,

This guy who himself is obviously like a heavy hitter in his space,

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a lot the average Joe did not know who he was. Right? Like every tech nerd who is in there doesn't know who this guy is. Even people who like sports probably didn't know that this guy's like the, you know, the skills trainer for all these top guys. And I'm talking about, like, this guy will train with Duane Wade and LeBron James and like other guys like that. Like, the top of the top.

a lot the average Joe did not know who he was. Right? Like every tech nerd who is in there doesn't know who this guy is. Even people who like sports probably didn't know that this guy's like the, you know, the skills trainer for all these top guys. And I'm talking about, like, this guy will train with Duane Wade and LeBron James and like other guys like that. Like, the top of the top.

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And,

And,

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Ben goes up to me, he's like, dude, follow you, man. I love your videos. It gives them a compliment. They start chatting a little bit.

Ben goes up to me, he's like, dude, follow you, man. I love your videos. It gives them a compliment. They start chatting a little bit.

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I don't know what Ben said next, but I think, I'll I'm gonna skip to the end. That will fill in the middle. The end is The event's over. Everybody's leaving people going to the airport. This guy comes up to me and he he's I'm talking to Ben. We're we're just figuring out we're gonna get our Uber. He goes.

I don't know what Ben said next, but I think, I'll I'm gonna skip to the end. That will fill in the middle. The end is The event's over. Everybody's leaving people going to the airport. This guy comes up to me and he he's I'm talking to Ben. We're we're just figuring out we're gonna get our Uber. He goes.

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I knew I was coming to this event for a reason, but I didn't know why.

I knew I was coming to this event for a reason, but I didn't know why.

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This man was the reason. He pointed out that way.

This man was the reason. He pointed out that way.

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And I go,

And I go,

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what? And I was like, what do you mean? Like, what did he do? He's like,

what? And I was like, what do you mean? Like, what did he do? He's like,

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I don't even know, man. He goes, this I am so happy I met this guy. Ben, I will always remember our conversation. He goes, he said something. He goes, like, he goes, he's, like, he's,

I don't even know, man. He goes, this I am so happy I met this guy. Ben, I will always remember our conversation. He goes, he said something. He goes, like, he goes, he's, like, he's,

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he's, like, bro, brother, anything you need.

he's, like, bro, brother, anything you need.

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Anything you need. I got you. And I was like and he this is not the type of guy. He's not schmoozing. This is not this is a guy where when words come out of his mouth, they mean something. And I'm just, like, I'm just sitting there. I'm not even laughing. I'm not even asking questions. I'm speechless. I get this look on my face, like, What the fuck did you do, Ben? How did you do this again? And and, Ben, still, he's just smiling. You don't even say anything back to this guy. He's just smiling. And I go I go, what? I go, what did he I go, what happened, man? Why?

Anything you need. I got you. And I was like and he this is not the type of guy. He's not schmoozing. This is not this is a guy where when words come out of his mouth, they mean something. And I'm just, like, I'm just sitting there. I'm not even laughing. I'm not even asking questions. I'm speechless. I get this look on my face, like, What the fuck did you do, Ben? How did you do this again? And and, Ben, still, he's just smiling. You don't even say anything back to this guy. He's just smiling. And I go I go, what? I go, what did he I go, what happened, man? Why?

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He goes, I guess, I don't even he goes, I don't even know. He doesn't even know the spelling center. He goes, I don't even know, but he goes, you know, I'm a trainer, man. I work with athletes When they need something, they call me. When they're when they're slump, they call me. When they're trying to get better, they call me. When they want their next contract, they call me. I help these guys get paid. I'm always helping. I drive to this guy's house. I drive here. I fly there. I do this. I do that. I'm always pouring into other people. He goes, Ben, you filled me up. You pour into me too. And I was like, what just happened.

He goes, I guess, I don't even he goes, I don't even know. He doesn't even know the spelling center. He goes, I don't even know, but he goes, you know, I'm a trainer, man. I work with athletes When they need something, they call me. When they're when they're slump, they call me. When they're trying to get better, they call me. When they want their next contract, they call me. I help these guys get paid. I'm always helping. I drive to this guy's house. I drive here. I fly there. I do this. I do that. I'm always pouring into other people. He goes, Ben, you filled me up. You pour into me too. And I was like, what just happened.

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I was so amazed.

I was so amazed.

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And the guy goes the guy goes, when you flying out, and Ben's like tomorrow he goes, Come train with us tomorrow.

And the guy goes the guy goes, when you flying out, and Ben's like tomorrow he goes, Come train with us tomorrow.

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Ben goes with him the next morning to his facility and does a session. The guy spends two hours correcting Ben's form. There's other NBA players there. He's locked into Ben. Ben sends me this video. He's wearing like a fucking weighted vest

Ben goes with him the next morning to his facility and does a session. The guy spends two hours correcting Ben's form. There's other NBA players there. He's locked into Ben. Ben sends me this video. He's wearing like a fucking weighted vest

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He's got, like, glove on his hand because this guy, like, invented a shooting glove.

He's got, like, glove on his hand because this guy, like, invented a shooting glove.

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He made a experience out of it for Ben, and I I really appreciate. Like, this guy didn't have to do that. That was incredibly nice if this guy He was just very, like, I don't know. It was very, like, you could see why this guy works with so many people because there's something magnetic about this guy's personality. What's his name? But two magnets met, dude, and I don't I don't know how I don't know what Ben superpower is. I don't know how he does this consistently.

He made a experience out of it for Ben, and I I really appreciate. Like, this guy didn't have to do that. That was incredibly nice if this guy He was just very, like, I don't know. It was very, like, you could see why this guy works with so many people because there's something magnetic about this guy's personality. What's his name? But two magnets met, dude, and I don't I don't know how I don't know what Ben superpower is. I don't know how he does this consistently.

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These sorts of things happen where people are just very

These sorts of things happen where people are just very

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attracted to him in this way. I don't know what it is, but he's amazing.

attracted to him in this way. I don't know what it is, but he's amazing.

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It's you know who's else is really good at that?

It's you know who's else is really good at that?

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Me. Who? I'm fucking good at that.

Me. Who? I'm fucking good at that.

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I'm good at that. You are good at that. Can I tell you what I'm talking about? But I'm good. Yeah.

I'm good at that. You are good at that. Can I tell you what I'm talking about? But I'm good. Yeah.

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This data is wrong every freaking time.

This data is wrong every freaking time.

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Have you heard of HubSpot?

Have you heard of HubSpot?

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HubSpot is a CRM platform where everything is fully into Well, I can see the client's whole history, calls, support tickets, emails, and here's a test from three days ago I totally missed.

HubSpot is a CRM platform where everything is fully into Well, I can see the client's whole history, calls, support tickets, emails, and here's a test from three days ago I totally missed.

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HubSpot,

HubSpot,

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grow better.

grow better.

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So yesterday, we'll talk about it a second, but yesterday, I did a interview with Martin Screlly.

So yesterday, we'll talk about it a second, but yesterday, I did a interview with Martin Screlly.

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And,

And,

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And I wanted it to go well. I was like, yeah. Okay. You know, I think people could be interested in this. Let me do a good job. And I'm five minutes into the interview,

And I wanted it to go well. I was like, yeah. Okay. You know, I think people could be interested in this. Let me do a good job. And I'm five minutes into the interview,

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and I find myself doing the, like,

and I find myself doing the, like,

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bullshit socialize. I'm like,

bullshit socialize. I'm like,

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yeah. I'm like smiling. I'm laughing. I'm like So that must have been hard for you to blah blah blah. And what would you say? I'm just like falling into some fucking, like, script.

yeah. I'm like smiling. I'm laughing. I'm like So that must have been hard for you to blah blah blah. And what would you say? I'm just like falling into some fucking, like, script.

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Like, I don't know what I, like, became some character, this, like, generic

Like, I don't know what I, like, became some character, this, like, generic

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podcast character.

podcast character.

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And literally, the thought in my head was Sam would never do this.

And literally, the thought in my head was Sam would never do this.

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Sam, like, he's he he said something he was, like, he was talking about, like, how he, like, he's like, yeah, dude, I, I, like, got a contraband cell phone. I was on the internet the whole time I was in prison.

Sam, like, he's he he said something he was, like, he was talking about, like, how he, like, he's like, yeah, dude, I, I, like, got a contraband cell phone. I was on the internet the whole time I was in prison.

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And I was like, and I was like, I was sorry to and I was like, dude, if Oh, no. You know what I would ask. Right? What? What websites were you using? Like, what were you what were you going? You would have been like, wait, what? How do you get it in there? Do you like, get it? Like, you have to put it between your butt cheeks? And, like, you would have said something like that to kinda disarm him, to get him to share an interesting nugget and you would have just genuinely been like, wait, what the hell? Like, hold on. No. And you would have just reacted like a normal person rather than, like, That's fascinating.

And I was like, and I was like, I was sorry to and I was like, dude, if Oh, no. You know what I would ask. Right? What? What websites were you using? Like, what were you what were you going? You would have been like, wait, what? How do you get it in there? Do you like, get it? Like, you have to put it between your butt cheeks? And, like, you would have said something like that to kinda disarm him, to get him to share an interesting nugget and you would have just genuinely been like, wait, what the hell? Like, hold on. No. And you would have just reacted like a normal person rather than, like, That's fascinating.

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You know, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on a blah blah blah. It's like, dude, that's podcaster versus real person. And so I was I, like, literally switched into Sam mode, and I started being, like, I was, like, what do you know? And then he shares us in hilarious thing. He's, he goes, yeah. Dude, and you you you would have been like, how much was it? I was like, how much you get the phone for? He's like, dude, he's crazy. He's like, you have to buy these things for, like, thousands of dollars. He's like, I paid fifteen thousand for one phone. And I thought, shit, this phone must be made out of gold because he's like, but you have to do it because to get the phone in, they gotta grease, you know, one guy to get one guy to get another guy. You gotta bribe five guys to get this in. And so, like, you know, you gotta pay that vig. And he's like, most guys I was like, so what do you use it for? Exactly. Your question. He goes he goes, yeah, most guys could use it for porn. He's like, said, for me, I'm on I'm on GitHub and, like, Con Academy. And porn, I did that too. But, like, you know, I'm one of the guys using this for, like, advanced math also, you know, under the covers. Listen to this. And that little magic moment that came out -- Yeah. It was crazy. -- it's like, that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen unless

You know, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on a blah blah blah. It's like, dude, that's podcaster versus real person. And so I was I, like, literally switched into Sam mode, and I started being, like, I was, like, what do you know? And then he shares us in hilarious thing. He's, he goes, yeah. Dude, and you you you would have been like, how much was it? I was like, how much you get the phone for? He's like, dude, he's crazy. He's like, you have to buy these things for, like, thousands of dollars. He's like, I paid fifteen thousand for one phone. And I thought, shit, this phone must be made out of gold because he's like, but you have to do it because to get the phone in, they gotta grease, you know, one guy to get one guy to get another guy. You gotta bribe five guys to get this in. And so, like, you know, you gotta pay that vig. And he's like, most guys I was like, so what do you use it for? Exactly. Your question. He goes he goes, yeah, most guys could use it for porn. He's like, said, for me, I'm on I'm on GitHub and, like, Con Academy. And porn, I did that too. But, like, you know, I'm one of the guys using this for, like, advanced math also, you know, under the covers. Listen to this. And that little magic moment that came out -- Yeah. It was crazy. -- it's like, that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen unless

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you kind of act the way that you act at Ben acts where it's like yours is a little different. Yours is, like, you get to, like, real talk really fast.

you kind of act the way that you act at Ben acts where it's like yours is a little different. Yours is, like, you get to, like, real talk really fast.

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Ben just kind of, like, seem so curious and earnest. I think that people really, like, they like how genuinely interested he is in their life and how he how helpful he tries to be without, like, seeking anything or talking about himself. Have you read the book how to win friends and influence people?

Ben just kind of, like, seem so curious and earnest. I think that people really, like, they like how genuinely interested he is in their life and how he how helpful he tries to be without, like, seeking anything or talking about himself. Have you read the book how to win friends and influence people?

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I read, like, the first chapter where it was, like, the the people's favorite word in the English thing is their name. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is great. And I never heard of you. That book that book like changed my life. And in one of the chapters, he talks about how,

I read, like, the first chapter where it was, like, the the people's favorite word in the English thing is their name. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is great. And I never heard of you. That book that book like changed my life. And in one of the chapters, he talks about how,

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There was a story of a man, like, sitting with the with the young guy and the young guy, like, wanted something like a job or something from the from the older guy. But the young guy, you know, used Dale Carnegie's practices. And basically, like, he just listened to him the entire time. And, you know, the older guy did all the talking. And at the end of the,

There was a story of a man, like, sitting with the with the young guy and the young guy, like, wanted something like a job or something from the from the older guy. But the young guy, you know, used Dale Carnegie's practices. And basically, like, he just listened to him the entire time. And, you know, the older guy did all the talking. And at the end of the,

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the end of the conversation, the older guy goes, wow, this was the best conversation I've ever had with anyone ever. And the younger guy was like, why didn't say a word? So But, like, that that's funny how that works. And the older guy goes, like, you know, you should we're friends now. You should come and, like, apply at our company. You know, like, things like that. And that, like, my life when I learned when I learned that strategy. And so when I want to get stuff from people,

the end of the conversation, the older guy goes, wow, this was the best conversation I've ever had with anyone ever. And the younger guy was like, why didn't say a word? So But, like, that that's funny how that works. And the older guy goes, like, you know, you should we're friends now. You should come and, like, apply at our company. You know, like, things like that. And that, like, my life when I learned when I learned that strategy. And so when I want to get stuff from people,

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I usually amp them up. So I'll do one of two things. One, I'll either insult them a little bit if I know that their business is doing above a hundred million in revenue, I'll be like, that's that's a nice little business. What do you guys do? Like, and and then they're gonna, like, tell me the exact I'll, like, naked them a little, or the thing that I do more often than not, is I just encourage them, like, crazy. Like, wow, you did that. You are so amazing. You're my hero, dude. How did you do that? You know, and they'll like start like dashing, and I'll just make them feel really good about themselves. This sounds manipulative, which I guess it is, but I don't think it's a bad manipulative, but yeah, it works.

I usually amp them up. So I'll do one of two things. One, I'll either insult them a little bit if I know that their business is doing above a hundred million in revenue, I'll be like, that's that's a nice little business. What do you guys do? Like, and and then they're gonna, like, tell me the exact I'll, like, naked them a little, or the thing that I do more often than not, is I just encourage them, like, crazy. Like, wow, you did that. You are so amazing. You're my hero, dude. How did you do that? You know, and they'll like start like dashing, and I'll just make them feel really good about themselves. This sounds manipulative, which I guess it is, but I don't think it's a bad manipulative, but yeah, it works.

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Yeah. The way I put it is, like, you go to these events to make connections with new people. Right? That's the point. Oh, we wouldn't go to an event if it wasn't for that.

Yeah. The way I put it is, like, you go to these events to make connections with new people. Right? That's the point. Oh, we wouldn't go to an event if it wasn't for that.

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But it's kinda hard to do that. I find myself, like, feeling uncomfortable in a lot of those situations, you know, like, okay. I need to introduce myself to this person. I how do I quickly, you know, like, are they just me and my there's very much like a, like, a dating component to that, to this, like, a speed dating component to these events. And you sort of see their eyes start to wander. It's like, they're clearly, like, looking for the conversation or, like, you know, the the bathroom or some excuse to get out of this sort of thing. Or

But it's kinda hard to do that. I find myself, like, feeling uncomfortable in a lot of those situations, you know, like, okay. I need to introduce myself to this person. I how do I quickly, you know, like, are they just me and my there's very much like a, like, a dating component to that, to this, like, a speed dating component to these events. And you sort of see their eyes start to wander. It's like, they're clearly, like, looking for the conversation or, like, you know, the the bathroom or some excuse to get out of this sort of thing. Or

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you're like, or you find yourself tuning out because you're like, Oh, shoot. I'm just kinda judging them, like, really quickly. Like, everybody's got something to offer. I just wanna I I should be in the mode of, like, finding out what that is rather than, like, looking at their badge and trying to figure out, like, are you, you know, valuable at this conference or not? That's sort of a stupid way to do it. But, like, I am fascinated with Ben and this guy, Chris, they're their ability to connect was so strong. Like,

you're like, or you find yourself tuning out because you're like, Oh, shoot. I'm just kinda judging them, like, really quickly. Like, everybody's got something to offer. I just wanna I I should be in the mode of, like, finding out what that is rather than, like, looking at their badge and trying to figure out, like, are you, you know, valuable at this conference or not? That's sort of a stupid way to do it. But, like, I am fascinated with Ben and this guy, Chris, they're their ability to connect was so strong. Like,

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the way Chris talked to me too, I felt like a friend of his within two minutes. And it's not because he was manipulating me. No. He's just, like, that's his energy he carries around. So if I think about why has he been able to connect with these athletes who everybody wants to connect with everybody wants to connect with LeBron James. Everybody wants to connect with Kim and Durant. Everybody wants to connect with Duane Wade. How does this guy do it? Well, obviously he's gotta be good at his job, but that's not enough. You also have to have the people skills. He told me a story. I think I could share this on here. And by the way, he he wants to come on the pot. I'll tell him tell him to come on. But he showed that he's doing the story. So I don't know if probably don't pay attention to this, but Did any of the people who you met listen?

the way Chris talked to me too, I felt like a friend of his within two minutes. And it's not because he was manipulating me. No. He's just, like, that's his energy he carries around. So if I think about why has he been able to connect with these athletes who everybody wants to connect with everybody wants to connect with LeBron James. Everybody wants to connect with Kim and Durant. Everybody wants to connect with Duane Wade. How does this guy do it? Well, obviously he's gotta be good at his job, but that's not enough. You also have to have the people skills. He told me a story. I think I could share this on here. And by the way, he he wants to come on the pot. I'll tell him tell him to come on. But he showed that he's doing the story. So I don't know if probably don't pay attention to this, but Did any of the people who you met listen?

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Oh, yeah. There were some people who listened to the pod. It's got them.

Oh, yeah. There were some people who listened to the pod. It's got them.

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Yeah. Not a not not a ton, I would say, but, like, definitely a few.

Yeah. Not a not not a ton, I would say, but, like, definitely a few.

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One of the franchise owners listens, which is kinda

One of the franchise owners listens, which is kinda

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And so, or, like, he had listed. I don't know if he's super regular. But,

And so, or, like, he had listed. I don't know if he's super regular. But,

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so okay. So he was so, basically, this guy was talking about the trainer, he was talking about, like,

so okay. So he was so, basically, this guy was talking about the trainer, he was talking about, like,

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fear. And so he so he was, like, he he somehow we got on the topic of fear. He's like, yeah, man. I he's like, I work with these guys in the gym. They can hit like, you know, whatever, eighty, ninety ninety three pointers in a row, like eighty, ninety percent. But in the game, it's obviously lower. I'm sure it's the speed is there. The defense is a little tighter, but, like,

fear. And so he so he was, like, he he somehow we got on the topic of fear. He's like, yeah, man. I he's like, I work with these guys in the gym. They can hit like, you know, whatever, eighty, ninety ninety three pointers in a row, like eighty, ninety percent. But in the game, it's obviously lower. I'm sure it's the speed is there. The defense is a little tighter, but, like,

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take free throws. There's no defense. There's no speed. Still, the guys in the gym perform one way and in the game, they form another. It's because there's a huge mental component to this. He's like, so I train their mental just as much as their physical. He's like, you know,

take free throws. There's no defense. There's no speed. Still, the guys in the gym perform one way and in the game, they form another. It's because there's a huge mental component to this. He's like, so I train their mental just as much as their physical. He's like, you know,

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LeBron recently went to

LeBron recently went to

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play at this thing called the Drew League. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it's basically like

play at this thing called the Drew League. I don't know if you've ever seen this, but it's basically like

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it's in downtown LA. It's like in the hood, basically, the drooley. LeBron, I don't think has ever played and it's usually like kinda like former players or like fringe guys, journeyman, guys who wanna make his league. They're Very good at basketball, but they're not like stars.

it's in downtown LA. It's like in the hood, basically, the drooley. LeBron, I don't think has ever played and it's usually like kinda like former players or like fringe guys, journeyman, guys who wanna make his league. They're Very good at basketball, but they're not like stars.

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And,

And,

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LeBron was like, I'm thinking about going and dropping in and just playing.

LeBron was like, I'm thinking about going and dropping in and just playing.

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And and this trainer was like, that would be awesome. And that would like mean a lot. Like, I think it would mean a lot to the people. I think you would you would have funds a legacy thing. Like, just it's like one time Kevin Durant went to Rutgers Park and he played in Rutgers Park. He dropped, like, fifty points or something like that. And the crowd, like, mobbed. They just, like, ended the game because the crowd just rushed him he was being so awesome. And he just, like, hit a three from from Halfcore, basically, and, like, he just gets mobbed by people. It's like this very memorable thing. And so the guy was like, you should do like LeBron has a lot to lose at something like this. Right? LeBron's already one of the best players in the world already one of the richest most famous athletes in the world. He doesn't need the fame. He's not gonna get any money. He's not gonna get better, like, just by playing in this one game with people who are worse than him. Like, and there's plenty of things that could go wrong. Like, he could get hurt. He could get dunked on or embarrassed in some way crushed over in some way, like, you know, that sort of thing. Or he could just, like, missed shots and, like, man, he went and it was, like, Dude, you couldn't even, like, you weren't hearing all that. Like, you know, it wasn't, like, hype.

And and this trainer was like, that would be awesome. And that would like mean a lot. Like, I think it would mean a lot to the people. I think you would you would have funds a legacy thing. Like, just it's like one time Kevin Durant went to Rutgers Park and he played in Rutgers Park. He dropped, like, fifty points or something like that. And the crowd, like, mobbed. They just, like, ended the game because the crowd just rushed him he was being so awesome. And he just, like, hit a three from from Halfcore, basically, and, like, he just gets mobbed by people. It's like this very memorable thing. And so the guy was like, you should do like LeBron has a lot to lose at something like this. Right? LeBron's already one of the best players in the world already one of the richest most famous athletes in the world. He doesn't need the fame. He's not gonna get any money. He's not gonna get better, like, just by playing in this one game with people who are worse than him. Like, and there's plenty of things that could go wrong. Like, he could get hurt. He could get dunked on or embarrassed in some way crushed over in some way, like, you know, that sort of thing. Or he could just, like, missed shots and, like, man, he went and it was, like, Dude, you couldn't even, like, you weren't hearing all that. Like, you know, it wasn't, like, hype.

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So he had something to lose. And, but he decided to go and then the the trainer was she, like, pulls up his cell phone. It's like the NBA All Star game is his iMessage. Like, just one star after another. He's like, he clicks the text message with me. He's like, he told he's like, I told him your victory is in your vulnerability.

So he had something to lose. And, but he decided to go and then the the trainer was she, like, pulls up his cell phone. It's like the NBA All Star game is his iMessage. Like, just one star after another. He's like, he clicks the text message with me. He's like, he told he's like, I told him your victory is in your vulnerability.

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Like, this you felt you were vulnerable.

Like, this you felt you were vulnerable.

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That's why this was a win for you because he he win

That's why this was a win for you because he he win

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was amazing. Everybody loved it. He played Superworld dropped forty points and like, it was awesome.

was amazing. Everybody loved it. He played Superworld dropped forty points and like, it was awesome.

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And the clips go viral on Instagram and people really respect him for it. He goes, you've remember Your victory is in your vulnerability.

And the clips go viral on Instagram and people really respect him for it. He goes, you've remember Your victory is in your vulnerability.

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And he looked around the circle. He used to psych. Remember that. And all of us were like nodding, like, yes, sir.

And he looked around the circle. He used to psych. Remember that. And all of us were like nodding, like, yes, sir.

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I was like, I will I what do I need to be I will take my clothes off right now and be more vulnerable if it helps me be, like, around and be, you know, like, but he was really inspiring telling these stories. And so love meeting people like this. I love hearing stories like this. And I love getting these golden nuggets. These little things you could take away

I was like, I will I what do I need to be I will take my clothes off right now and be more vulnerable if it helps me be, like, around and be, you know, like, but he was really inspiring telling these stories. And so love meeting people like this. I love hearing stories like this. And I love getting these golden nuggets. These little things you could take away

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that, like, you can use in your own little your own life. You know what my takeaway when I hear this shit is is, is, damn, these guys are cool. I wanna be fucking cool. Like, like, I wanna stick other fuck you have to be cool. I just Google it Amazon. How to be cool? Where's this book? I need one of these books. I didn't want I want men to want me.

that, like, you can use in your own little your own life. You know what my takeaway when I hear this shit is is, is, damn, these guys are cool. I wanna be fucking cool. Like, like, I wanna stick other fuck you have to be cool. I just Google it Amazon. How to be cool? Where's this book? I need one of these books. I didn't want I want men to want me.

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Like,

Like,

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how do you be? By young man. Yeah.

how do you be? By young man. Yeah.

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How do you be cool, dude? Where's that book on how to be cool? I want that. This guy read it. I wanna read it too.

How do you be cool, dude? Where's that book on how to be cool? I want that. This guy read it. I wanna read it too.

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That's crazy. What's on everything? Wanna read that book too. Yeah.

That's crazy. What's on everything? Wanna read that book too. Yeah.

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I'm so envious when I hear people like this, I'm like, damn, they got a good shtick.

I'm so envious when I hear people like this, I'm like, damn, they got a good shtick.

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Let me tell you one other little nugget here. Do memorable things. I wrote this down. Alright. What does that mean? I went to the conference last year. I went this year. In between, I've, like, launched a business. I've, you know, the podcast has grown, blah, blah, blah.

Let me tell you one other little nugget here. Do memorable things. I wrote this down. Alright. What does that mean? I went to the conference last year. I went this year. In between, I've, like, launched a business. I've, you know, the podcast has grown, blah, blah, blah.

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Guess what the number one thing people remembered me for at the conference this year. Like e commerce stuff? Oh, last year this year?

Guess what the number one thing people remembered me for at the conference this year. Like e commerce stuff? Oh, last year this year?

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This year, when they when they're like, oh, I remember you talked about x. Probably investing.

This year, when they when they're like, oh, I remember you talked about x. Probably investing.

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The Michael Jordan house thing that we talked about on the podcast. Wait. Really?

The Michael Jordan house thing that we talked about on the podcast. Wait. Really?

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The idea of buying MJ's house.

The idea of buying MJ's house.

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So two things happened. That went kind of semi viral in the sports and sports media, the sports agent, world.

So two things happened. That went kind of semi viral in the sports and sports media, the sports agent, world.

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People shared that clip Like, remember the Twitter clip has like a hundred thousand plus views.

People shared that clip Like, remember the Twitter clip has like a hundred thousand plus views.

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People shared that with important people. I think, like, the TikTok thing was, like, millions.

People shared that with important people. I think, like, the TikTok thing was, like, millions.

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Maybe. It got shared with a lot of people. They were like, oh, I remember you were gonna buy Michael Jordan's house. What happened with that? And they were like, it's like, dude, do you remember that from over a year ago? And, like, done a bunch of other things way more seriously. That was just one

Maybe. It got shared with a lot of people. They were like, oh, I remember you were gonna buy Michael Jordan's house. What happened with that? And they were like, it's like, dude, do you remember that from over a year ago? And, like, done a bunch of other things way more seriously. That was just one

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brainstorm with Sam about this idea.

brainstorm with Sam about this idea.

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Like, that's crazy. So that was the first thing.

Like, that's crazy. So that was the first thing.

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People were remembering me for that. Then this then we,

People were remembering me for that. Then this then we,

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while we were there, Ben took a call to potentially invest in this company.

while we were there, Ben took a call to potentially invest in this company.

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And,

And,

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and I'm, like, cool. What's this guy's background? And he the guy's done many things. Ben goes. You remember the, Taco Bell Mexican Pizza dish?

and I'm, like, cool. What's this guy's background? And he the guy's done many things. Ben goes. You remember the, Taco Bell Mexican Pizza dish?

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I was like, kind of, I guess. Like, yeah, I know it exists. He goes, they took it away off the menu, and people like, like, it were outraged on social media. And this guy got, like, a million people to sign the petition to bring it back, and they brought it back. And I was like That's what he was known for.

I was like, kind of, I guess. Like, yeah, I know it exists. He goes, they took it away off the menu, and people like, like, it were outraged on social media. And this guy got, like, a million people to sign the petition to bring it back, and they brought it back. And I was like That's what he was known for.

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Well, that's Ben remembered. I'm like, this guy's done a bunch of interesting things. And he had, like, three this guy had three stories like that. And once you have, like, three stories like that, it's like, alright. I need to know this guy. And I feel like you do that really well too. Well, you have these little things

Well, that's Ben remembered. I'm like, this guy's done a bunch of interesting things. And he had, like, three this guy had three stories like that. And once you have, like, three stories like that, it's like, alright. I need to know this guy. And I feel like you do that really well too. Well, you have these little things

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where it's like, oh, the hot dog stand.

where it's like, oh, the hot dog stand.

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Like, calls, you know, Sam's Weiner's biggest baby's arm,

Like, calls, you know, Sam's Weiner's biggest baby's arm,

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or it's like, you know, the pawn star pawn stars guy, the pawn shop thing, or like I feel you have these things that are like that. These little nuggets or stories that are like they're memorable but not for the thing you actually spent years of your life building.

or it's like, you know, the pawn star pawn stars guy, the pawn shop thing, or like I feel you have these things that are like that. These little nuggets or stories that are like they're memorable but not for the thing you actually spent years of your life building.

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Yeah. But, dude, the problem is is that I'm, like, trading on old stories. I need to do some cooler shit now. I'm, like, you know, we gotta, like, do some stuff. I gotta do something. Well, I think that's the thing. It's like do more memorable shit

Yeah. But, dude, the problem is is that I'm, like, trading on old stories. I need to do some cooler shit now. I'm, like, you know, we gotta, like, do some stuff. I gotta do something. Well, I think that's the thing. It's like do more memorable shit

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because these punch above their weight. You know, they don't take that long. It's not that hard to do, but like I was gonna do like a The other day, I thought maybe I would like spend three weeks riding around on a motorcycle. And I was like, that's lame. I already did that. I gotta I gotta think of some I gotta do something cool. You know? Right. I think maybe I'll have kids next year. I can do something. I gotta go out with a bang.

because these punch above their weight. You know, they don't take that long. It's not that hard to do, but like I was gonna do like a The other day, I thought maybe I would like spend three weeks riding around on a motorcycle. And I was like, that's lame. I already did that. I gotta I gotta think of some I gotta do something cool. You know? Right. I think maybe I'll have kids next year. I can do something. I gotta go out with a bang.

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I don't think you understood what

I don't think you understood what

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let's do something cool, man. We gotta do something cool.

let's do something cool, man. We gotta do something cool.

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Let's do cool shit. Yeah. I think there's a bunch of things that would be cool to do, but they don't make any sense. And what I'm learning is that those things do make sense just on a different time scale.

Let's do cool shit. Yeah. I think there's a bunch of things that would be cool to do, but they don't make any sense. And what I'm learning is that those things do make sense just on a different time scale.

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And, you gotta lie in a in a different weird way. And having the having that little collateral

And, you gotta lie in a in a different weird way. And having the having that little collateral

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of, like, cool shit that you could talk about is worth it. I thought about walking across the country,

of, like, cool shit that you could talk about is worth it. I thought about walking across the country,

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and I was like, that'd be that'd be pretty sick. And then I kinda like thought about like playing it out and I'm like,

and I was like, that'd be that'd be pretty sick. And then I kinda like thought about like playing it out and I'm like,

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It's pretty far.

It's pretty far.

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It might take like six months.

It might take like six months.

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Like, I don't know. Like,

Like, I don't know. Like,

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you just listen to audio books all day. Like, I don't know. Like, I

you just listen to audio books all day. Like, I don't know. Like, I

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you know what I mean? I gotta think of some something, like,

you know what I mean? I gotta think of some something, like,

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kinda cool. It's gotta be authentic.

kinda cool. It's gotta be authentic.

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Like, extreme for extreme sake doesn't work because, again, you don't know if these are gonna pay off or when they're gonna pay off. So you gotta do it where the the the act of doing it or talking about it or, like, that has to be itself enough

Like, extreme for extreme sake doesn't work because, again, you don't know if these are gonna pay off or when they're gonna pay off. So you gotta do it where the the the act of doing it or talking about it or, like, that has to be itself enough

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for you. I was, like, maybe I'll just, like, use Twitter and, like, see if I can hitchhike from, like, New York to California.

for you. I was, like, maybe I'll just, like, use Twitter and, like, see if I can hitchhike from, like, New York to California.

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I don't I gotta figure out something.

I don't I gotta figure out something.

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I'm gonna figure something out, but this stupid podcast, I gotta be here. Twice a week to record. It holds me back. I thought about walking across the country, but I gotta have, like, gotta

I'm gonna figure something out, but this stupid podcast, I gotta be here. Twice a week to record. It holds me back. I thought about walking across the country, but I gotta have, like, gotta

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carry on this lame ass mic for this stupid podcast.

carry on this lame ass mic for this stupid podcast.

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But I gotta figure something out.

But I gotta figure something out.

51:40

That's hilarious.

That's hilarious.

51:41

Yeah, let's do another topic.

Yeah, let's do another topic.

51:43

You remember how I tweeted out that thing about Hassan? How do you pronounce his last name? Minhaj?

You remember how I tweeted out that thing about Hassan? How do you pronounce his last name? Minhaj?

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The comedian?

The comedian?

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Yeah. I tweeted out this thing that basically I, like, saw him walk by me and I went and grabbed him. It goes, what's up, man? And it wasn't him, and it was really embarrassing.

Yeah. I tweeted out this thing that basically I, like, saw him walk by me and I went and grabbed him. It goes, what's up, man? And it wasn't him, and it was really embarrassing.

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You know, I've never, like, really talked to them. Did you give him my number?

You know, I've never, like, really talked to them. Did you give him my number?

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Yeah.

Yeah.

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Oh, he he texted me. He he was like, this is funny. He's like, give me Sam's number.

Oh, he he texted me. He he was like, this is funny. He's like, give me Sam's number.

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And I'll text him. And then I I send him your number. I'm getting dinner with him,

And I'll text him. And then I I send him your number. I'm getting dinner with him,

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and, it's gonna be the first time I I didn't get to meet him when you do that podcast. But I thought that was also a cool example of just like these cool things just happen when you when you take a lot of chances. Would you say that maybe your victory was in your vulnerability here?

and, it's gonna be the first time I I didn't get to meet him when you do that podcast. But I thought that was also a cool example of just like these cool things just happen when you when you take a lot of chances. Would you say that maybe your victory was in your vulnerability here?

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By sharing this embarrassing story. But sharing this embarrassing story. Right? It looked like a racist. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. I think he was in your vulnerability, baby. And it was you hooked it up. So I appreciate that. Yeah. It was,

By sharing this embarrassing story. But sharing this embarrassing story. Right? It looked like a racist. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. I think he was in your vulnerability, baby. And it was you hooked it up. So I appreciate that. Yeah. It was,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna go hang out with him. You you guys are like homies. Right?

I'm gonna I'm gonna go hang out with him. You you guys are like homies. Right?

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Yeah. I I really like them. We, you better be funny, dude. I'm not.

Yeah. I I really like them. We, you better be funny, dude. I'm not.

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It's so Is it is it that, like, you gotta go one way or the other? If you're gonna hang out with a comedian, you've either gotta be, like, funny or just be, like, blatantly unfunny. Is he funny when you're, like, just hanging out with him?

It's so Is it is it that, like, you gotta go one way or the other? If you're gonna hang out with a comedian, you've either gotta be, like, funny or just be, like, blatantly unfunny. Is he funny when you're, like, just hanging out with him?

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Yeah. He's a funny dude. Shit.

Yeah. He's a funny dude. Shit.

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I'm not prepared at all. I gotta go read a book. This is why I need that cool book. It's fucking I'm trying to be hot instead.

I'm not prepared at all. I gotta go read a book. This is why I need that cool book. It's fucking I'm trying to be hot instead.

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No. I can't do that either.

No. I can't do that either.

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You're closer to hot and funny.

You're closer to hot and funny.

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That's still a far. I'm average at both. I'm I'm, you know, I'm average at best.

That's still a far. I'm average at both. I'm I'm, you know, I'm average at best.

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Like, it's

Like, it's

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Alright. Rich. Trying to be rich instead.

Alright. Rich. Trying to be rich instead.

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Dude, I'm still six out of ten on that, too.

Dude, I'm still six out of ten on that, too.

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I'm just, like, a six across Panic of meeting the panic of meeting,

I'm just, like, a six across Panic of meeting the panic of meeting,

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famous people is so funny to me.

famous people is so funny to me.

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Like, I just think it's like a hilarious thing that happens when people people be funny, people be people be famous. People, their instinct is like

Like, I just think it's like a hilarious thing that happens when people people be funny, people be people be famous. People, their instinct is like

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to just, like, throw all all good common sense out the window and start behaving like an idiot.

to just, like, throw all all good common sense out the window and start behaving like an idiot.

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Dude, it just sucks being a seven at everything. You know what I mean? I'm just a seven at everything. So

Dude, it just sucks being a seven at everything. You know what I mean? I'm just a seven at everything. So

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Always the bridesmaid. Never the brides. Always the seven.

Always the bridesmaid. Never the brides. Always the seven.

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A jack of all trades, a master of none. I'm just this fucking seven.

A jack of all trades, a master of none. I'm just this fucking seven.

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I need to, like, it just doesn't work out.

I need to, like, it just doesn't work out.

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Yeah. But you're you're a hard seven, though. You know? Yeah. I'm a hard seven. Alright.

Yeah. But you're you're a hard seven, though. You know? Yeah. I'm a hard seven. Alright.

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That's the pod. We'll talk to y'all later.

That's the pod. We'll talk to y'all later.

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